DTemple
11-06-2005, 09:18 AM
Has anyone read this book yet? If so, has anyone tried the recommended Candida cleanse? I looked it up and the Candida program is very expensive and I don't want to waste my money on something that doesn't work.
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gxpark1234
11-13-2005, 07:43 AM
he's a scammer... didnt u watch 60 minutes?
jazzyE
11-13-2005, 11:09 PM
There are ways to do a Candida cleanse without buying into any expensive program...there have been several posts here about it...I know I made a few about the Candida diet and cleanse I went through earlier this year...just do a little research on it, but be wary of anyone trying to sell you anything
hyper79
11-14-2005, 10:48 PM
i agree i bought the book of of ebay,listed it back on the day after i got it,a scam!half the stuff in the book will make most people paranoid.a friend of mines broke going by his book. hes got filtered shower heads,afraid of his microwave ect...
DTemple
11-16-2005, 06:41 PM
It is kind of frightening, but alot of it is possibly true. The pharmaceutical industry is controlling our medical programs and the education of our doctors.
Concerned Male
11-18-2005, 07:28 PM
I don't know too much about the Candida Cleanse. But I have read the book, and there are several good discussions in it. The problem is, the author ends several of the topic discussions by saying that to get the rest of the info, you need to go to the website. At the website, you need to pay more money to get this info. So the book costs about $30, and then you need to pay more money to get the rest of the info.
Most of the things that were mentioned in the book, you can get info about for free on the internet. Plus, the author has misled/scammed people in the past, and even admits it himself. He went to jail before for a couple of years. So I would say that the book isn't worth the $30 to buy. But I borrowed it from a relative, and then just looked up topics that I was interested in from the book, on the net, for further details.
Most of the things that were mentioned in the book, you can get info about for free on the internet. Plus, the author has misled/scammed people in the past, and even admits it himself. He went to jail before for a couple of years. So I would say that the book isn't worth the $30 to buy. But I borrowed it from a relative, and then just looked up topics that I was interested in from the book, on the net, for further details.
Texcin
12-12-2005, 02:19 PM
I don't know too much about the Candida Cleanse. But I have read the book, and there are several good discussions in it. The problem is, the author ends several of the topic discussions by saying that to get the rest of the info, you need to go to the website. At the website, you need to pay more money to get this info. So the book costs about $30, and then you need to pay more money to get the rest of the info.
Most of the things that were mentioned in the book, you can get info about for free on the internet. Plus, the author has misled/scammed people in the past, and even admits it himself. He went to jail before for a couple of years. So I would say that the book isn't worth the $30 to buy. But I borrowed it from a relative, and then just looked up topics that I was interested in from the book, on the net, for further details.
I have to agree with you. I got really aggitated that he kept referring to "go to my website"! Most of the things he wrote about I already knew or you can find out for free. I think he was pushing people just a little bit too far.
Most of the things that were mentioned in the book, you can get info about for free on the internet. Plus, the author has misled/scammed people in the past, and even admits it himself. He went to jail before for a couple of years. So I would say that the book isn't worth the $30 to buy. But I borrowed it from a relative, and then just looked up topics that I was interested in from the book, on the net, for further details.
I have to agree with you. I got really aggitated that he kept referring to "go to my website"! Most of the things he wrote about I already knew or you can find out for free. I think he was pushing people just a little bit too far.
DTemple
12-12-2005, 07:13 PM
He also refers you to the places where he originally got the information, the studies that were done and the other boos that were written. He has compiled alot of information in one place, and you can get the book much cheaper than thirty dollars. Most of it, the average person could not afford to do, but I like to use it as an outline to find more information about other things, such as magnetic healing and infrared saunas.
Texcin
12-12-2005, 10:49 PM
DTemple, I do admit that I got irritated with my husband for calling him a fraud. I bought the book, I believe it was like fifteen bucks, and I agreed with a lot of what he said. I think a lot is common sense. And I definately agree about the company's that make the meds. They are riping us off and I tend to believe what he's telling us about them. It's scarey. BUT, he was way too insistant on going to his web site.That would have been fine, if it was free.
DTemple
12-13-2005, 08:31 PM
Texcin,
You are right, I guess the website and his newsletter is what is supporting his ongoing efforts though. I did join and sign up for the newsletter which is also informative, but I did not join on the website although I was tempted to because I have so many questions for them. In one of the newsletters he mentioned that now the government is saying that colonics are harmful, but from my own personal experience I agree with Kevin Trudeau. He said he went to a spa for 7 days, they did NOT eat, only had tea and veg juice and water and yet EVERY day you get a colonic and more and more comes out of you, old fecal material. I can say from personal experience, he is NOT lying. I did the Dr. Natura colonic cleanse for three months (of course I was still eating like normal) and some very old, hard, dark gnarly material DID come out, it was amazing. Two friends did it with me and they had the SAME result and one is a vegan!!!
You are right, I guess the website and his newsletter is what is supporting his ongoing efforts though. I did join and sign up for the newsletter which is also informative, but I did not join on the website although I was tempted to because I have so many questions for them. In one of the newsletters he mentioned that now the government is saying that colonics are harmful, but from my own personal experience I agree with Kevin Trudeau. He said he went to a spa for 7 days, they did NOT eat, only had tea and veg juice and water and yet EVERY day you get a colonic and more and more comes out of you, old fecal material. I can say from personal experience, he is NOT lying. I did the Dr. Natura colonic cleanse for three months (of course I was still eating like normal) and some very old, hard, dark gnarly material DID come out, it was amazing. Two friends did it with me and they had the SAME result and one is a vegan!!!
Texcin
12-14-2005, 10:27 AM
DTemple, This Dr. Natura Colonic cleanse. Do I understand you to say, you can eat normally while doing this? Most cleanses you have to eat only certain things. Also, do you need to check with a doctor first before starting it? What if you're on medications? Just curious.
Concerned Male
12-14-2005, 06:45 PM
circleofwillis,
Would you consider all the ingredients in common sun block to be completely healthy?
It's a well known fact that various prescription drug studies are funded, at least in part, by pharmaceutical companies. Ads for Prescription drugs are all over the place. Some doctors get 'privilieges' when they prescribe certain precription drugs. In several states, alternative doctors are looked down upon by the mainstream doctors, cause they are taking away from their business.(money). Yet every year, the amount of people that go to alternative type doctors, or try alterative treatments, increases. I would definitely say that pharmaceutical companies have an affect on conventional doctors.
Would you consider all the ingredients in common sun block to be completely healthy?
It's a well known fact that various prescription drug studies are funded, at least in part, by pharmaceutical companies. Ads for Prescription drugs are all over the place. Some doctors get 'privilieges' when they prescribe certain precription drugs. In several states, alternative doctors are looked down upon by the mainstream doctors, cause they are taking away from their business.(money). Yet every year, the amount of people that go to alternative type doctors, or try alterative treatments, increases. I would definitely say that pharmaceutical companies have an affect on conventional doctors.
DTemple
12-16-2005, 02:40 PM
Texcin,
You eat normally during the cleanse with Dr. Natura, just go to the website and read up on it. You drink more water though and take parasite pills in the morning and drink their tea at night which promotes bowel movements and also you will sleep better. The testimonials on the website are extensive. I personally have cut out almost all sugar in my diet and most things made with white flour this year.
You eat normally during the cleanse with Dr. Natura, just go to the website and read up on it. You drink more water though and take parasite pills in the morning and drink their tea at night which promotes bowel movements and also you will sleep better. The testimonials on the website are extensive. I personally have cut out almost all sugar in my diet and most things made with white flour this year.
gort
12-18-2005, 03:51 PM
There is a lot of good information in Kevin's book. I have it. But some effective methods exist that are not mentioned in his book.
If money is tight just use clay and very high amounts of acidophilus. I mean capsules with 25 billion cells and take several a day. Get a box of clay powder from the health store and mix a heaping teaspoon into a glass of water with flax powder & drink. The clay absorbs all pathogens including yeast. Bacteria and the toxins they emit will just stick to the clay and leave your body. The clay can only attract positively charged ions like bad bacteria and toxins and heavy metals. Good bacteria and nutrients are negatively charged, like the clay is, so will not adhere to the clay. Kevin speaks of negative ions and the energy in living things.
There is much scientific merit to this and is the basis of many alternative healing practices like acupuncture. Biophysicists know that living things produce negative or positive ions. Clay is "alive" with negative ions. So is mineral salt when it is complete and unchanged from its joined chain of minerals. Table salt has been broken up and separated from its chain of minerals with only 2 remaining after processing. Sea salt and Himalayan salt are alive, vibrating with negative ions. Since we are a "living being" it makes sense that putting similar life force substances into our body it will heal. It's just natural laws of physics. Pure beeswax candles are known to kill bacteria in the room they are burning in. This is because beeswax emits negative ions. Ionic air cleaners work on this same principle. It all sounds very weird, I know but makes sense the more you read about negative ions.
If money is tight just use clay and very high amounts of acidophilus. I mean capsules with 25 billion cells and take several a day. Get a box of clay powder from the health store and mix a heaping teaspoon into a glass of water with flax powder & drink. The clay absorbs all pathogens including yeast. Bacteria and the toxins they emit will just stick to the clay and leave your body. The clay can only attract positively charged ions like bad bacteria and toxins and heavy metals. Good bacteria and nutrients are negatively charged, like the clay is, so will not adhere to the clay. Kevin speaks of negative ions and the energy in living things.
There is much scientific merit to this and is the basis of many alternative healing practices like acupuncture. Biophysicists know that living things produce negative or positive ions. Clay is "alive" with negative ions. So is mineral salt when it is complete and unchanged from its joined chain of minerals. Table salt has been broken up and separated from its chain of minerals with only 2 remaining after processing. Sea salt and Himalayan salt are alive, vibrating with negative ions. Since we are a "living being" it makes sense that putting similar life force substances into our body it will heal. It's just natural laws of physics. Pure beeswax candles are known to kill bacteria in the room they are burning in. This is because beeswax emits negative ions. Ionic air cleaners work on this same principle. It all sounds very weird, I know but makes sense the more you read about negative ions.
DTemple
12-21-2005, 07:23 PM
gort,
I am going to try the clay, and hopefully my health food store will have it and tell me how to use it or for how long. How did you find this information? I have been researching yeast for two years and have never found this, only expensive treatments like the one mentioned in Kevin's book.
I am going to try the clay, and hopefully my health food store will have it and tell me how to use it or for how long. How did you find this information? I have been researching yeast for two years and have never found this, only expensive treatments like the one mentioned in Kevin's book.
gort
12-22-2005, 01:10 AM
Hi, DTemple. I saw the liquid clay in the health store all the time on the bottom shelf, kind of inconspicuous and never knew what it was for. Then I noticed the Yeastbusters logo on the bottle and inquired. The clerk told me it was indeed for systemic yeast infections and that you do indeed drink it. So I did a search on the web. When I read about how absorptive it is--even more than activated charcoal, it made sense. And was fascinating that natives used to dip food in clay water to prevent upset stomach or poisoning from toxic plants they had to sometimes eat. I found the motherlode of info on it from a site called shirleys wellness cafe.
DTemple
12-22-2005, 10:59 AM
Awesome, thanks. I am researching it now. I really need something that works, I have tried several yeast protocols.
gort
12-30-2005, 07:29 PM
Agreed. I find though, that the thing with the food industry is that they will always win, because it's very expensive to switch everything to organic foods. And the people with the most illness seem to be at the low end of the wage scale. I can only afford a few organic things right now, like hot cereals, and unhomogenized milk, a few fruits. At least I can kick start my morning with pesticide free grain cereal, which I love. It is very frustrating that so many people believe pesticides in moderation is safe and imitation food product in a box is real. And I can't stand to hear family members say to me "Oh, you could obsess over everything and still get run over by a truck." I noticed the big box food companies are making a cash grab towards the organic industry. Organics are the fastest growing part of the food sector and since I found out Kellogg's owns my favourite cracker called 'Kashi,' I have stopped buying it.
hyperkim
12-30-2005, 08:38 PM
I don't care who makes the food. As long as we can get more healthful choices available to us without becoming a farmer, etc. I like Kashi crackers too. And I would like them to continue to sell them. I say support them with the healthy choices they provide and not the unhealthy choices. The companies will get the message, as we are finally begining to see.
gort
12-30-2005, 09:25 PM
That was my first reaction too, but then I read a newspaper article about the new bullying of organic farmers from big grocery chains to produce more, faster, and urging legislators to loosen standards in the organic industry so this can occur. If this happens, the industry will suffer. Small batches are a mainstay of organic farming principles and forcing them to become bigger suppliers will create crowding of animals and cruelty just like conventional farming. And with the crops, they cannot grow any faster without intervening with artificial means, so these are huge worries for organic producers right now. The fear of losing their high standards is very real. The documentary "The Corporation" illustrates very well how greedy and influential the big food companies and all corporations are. Like Trudeau's book points out, publicly traded companies are legally obligated to increase profits for their shareholders.
hyperkim
12-31-2005, 09:46 AM
Oh you must be GOD! As you are definitely correct on everything!
I'll still buy Kashi crackers.
I'll still buy Kashi crackers.
DTemple
12-31-2005, 03:01 PM
What are Kashi crackers? I am amazed that my original post on Kevin Trudeau is still going. And I see it has brought up some good discussions. I would like to see more unbiased press or documentaries coming out that support Kevin Trudeau.
DTemple
12-31-2005, 03:02 PM
What are Kashi crackers? I am amazed that my original post on Kevin Trudeau is still going. And I see it has brought up some good discussions. I would like to see more unbiased press or documentaries coming out that support Kevin Trudeau.
BetsyAnn
01-02-2006, 03:25 AM
DTemple, I just wanted to respond to your original question about the "Candida Cure." I am not familiar with the protocal of Kevin Trudeau, However, I visited a D.O. who put me on a candida free diet along with a prescription anit-fungal (Nizoral), and some pro-biotics. It worked great! It aleviated my arthritis symptoms, most of my fybromyalgia symptoms, and my heartburn. I noticed big improvements in just a few days. I followed the diet and used the prescription for 1 month. I still take the pro-biotics. It was fairly inexpensive. The prescription was a $10 co-pay. The probiotics were under $20.
DTemple
01-02-2006, 10:22 AM
betseyann, What is the diet like and how long did it take for you to see results? I don't normally take ANY prescriptions medications. But I do have all of those symptoms and I think it is related to Candida. In fact I asked my doctor to do a special blood test for Candida and I tested High, but then she never followed up and ordered anything for me because she knows I don't like meds.
BetsyAnn
01-03-2006, 05:30 PM
DTemple, I noticed significant improvement in just a few days. I also did not suffer from any die-off effects. I have read horror stories on the internet from the side effects when the yeast die off. I was really suprised that I didn't have any side effects. When I asked the doctor about this he told me that by taking the anti-fungal you greatly reduce those effects. After a month I was not making anymore inprovements so I stopped the anit-fungal. The doctor recommended that I continue to take the pro-biotics and digestive enzymes (I don't know if the enzymes helpe with the candida or not but they seem to help with my energy levels.) and off course continue to avoid the refined carbohydrates while slowly adding back other foods. I don't know if 1 month is typical or not. I know I read in the literature from the doctor that it can take up to six months on the diet for complete results.
The anti-candida diet I followed was pretty standard from what I have seen on the internet. No refined carbohydrates. No sugars. No foods with yeast in them. No artifical sweetners except xylitol. No fruit or fruit juice for the first 2 weeks, after that you can add fruit back in one at a time to see if you tolerate them. No peanuts, mushrooms, or cheese (cottage cheese is okay.)
The anti-candida diet I followed was pretty standard from what I have seen on the internet. No refined carbohydrates. No sugars. No foods with yeast in them. No artifical sweetners except xylitol. No fruit or fruit juice for the first 2 weeks, after that you can add fruit back in one at a time to see if you tolerate them. No peanuts, mushrooms, or cheese (cottage cheese is okay.)
ny01
01-03-2006, 05:57 PM
BedtsyAnn,
You said that you did your candida diet for one month. Did all the improvements stay with you after the month was over?
I look forward to your reply. Thanks
You said that you did your candida diet for one month. Did all the improvements stay with you after the month was over?
I look forward to your reply. Thanks
BetsyAnn
01-03-2006, 10:14 PM
BedtsyAnn,
You said that you did your candida diet for one month. Did all the improvements stay with you after the month was over?
I look forward to your reply. Thanks
I was symptom free for about 5 months then mid November I started eating crappy-- refined carbohydrates and lots of diet coke--I was also getting very little sleep (the reason I "needed" the diet coke.) I also got distracted and quit taking the probiotics. I stated getting some pain in my "arthritic knee", tender spots on my sides when lying down, and some heartburn. All of the symptoms were very slight compared to what they had been previously, but I don't want to go back to where I was. I am currently following the same protocal again. Hopefully I have learned my lesson about poor eating habits. Perhaps if I would have followed the strict protocol longer I would have been more resistant to a reinfection, however, I think I would have been fine if I had maintain good habits.
You said that you did your candida diet for one month. Did all the improvements stay with you after the month was over?
I look forward to your reply. Thanks
I was symptom free for about 5 months then mid November I started eating crappy-- refined carbohydrates and lots of diet coke--I was also getting very little sleep (the reason I "needed" the diet coke.) I also got distracted and quit taking the probiotics. I stated getting some pain in my "arthritic knee", tender spots on my sides when lying down, and some heartburn. All of the symptoms were very slight compared to what they had been previously, but I don't want to go back to where I was. I am currently following the same protocal again. Hopefully I have learned my lesson about poor eating habits. Perhaps if I would have followed the strict protocol longer I would have been more resistant to a reinfection, however, I think I would have been fine if I had maintain good habits.
DTemple
01-04-2006, 12:12 PM
Betseyann, If you research Nizoral, which I just did, it can have some serious side effects including liver toxicity and it has caused some deaths. The warnings alone were enough for me. I can't consider taking it for myself. I guess I need to keep searching for the right Candida protocol. The one in Kevin Trudeaus book is very expensive.
BetsyAnn
01-04-2006, 12:44 PM
DTemple, I can totally understand your position. I did have my liver function tested before I started the Nizoral and after 1 month. All was well. I do not regret taking it. I feel so much better than I have for 15 years. I do hope that you are able to find a protocal that you feel comfortable with and that works well for you. Have you done any research on ThreeLac? It is a combination of probiotics and enzymes that is supposed to work very well. I have read reports that some people get good results using it even if they do not follow a special diet.
DTemple
01-04-2006, 01:34 PM
BetseyAnn,
I actually took ThreeLac two+ years ago, and it seemed to work but in some ways I felt worse. Maybe it was the die off everybody talks about? I wouldn't mind trying it again, it's very easy to take and it tastes good. Two years ago, I really didn't know what was wrong with me and actually part of my problem turned out to be mercury toxicity. In the summer of 2004 I had my amalgams removed and alot of my symptoms improved, some even dramatically. But I seem to have this nagging yeast problem, my tongue is white, I have digestive problems, aches and pains that are unusually bad and a discharge. I am afraid of most prescription drugs because I react to most of them so after reading about Nizoral, for now I decided to be cautious. I have always read and heard that Candida is very hard to get rid of, and that it takes a long time to go away and it does reoccur.
I actually took ThreeLac two+ years ago, and it seemed to work but in some ways I felt worse. Maybe it was the die off everybody talks about? I wouldn't mind trying it again, it's very easy to take and it tastes good. Two years ago, I really didn't know what was wrong with me and actually part of my problem turned out to be mercury toxicity. In the summer of 2004 I had my amalgams removed and alot of my symptoms improved, some even dramatically. But I seem to have this nagging yeast problem, my tongue is white, I have digestive problems, aches and pains that are unusually bad and a discharge. I am afraid of most prescription drugs because I react to most of them so after reading about Nizoral, for now I decided to be cautious. I have always read and heard that Candida is very hard to get rid of, and that it takes a long time to go away and it does reoccur.
BetsyAnn
01-04-2006, 02:24 PM
DTemple, good luck. I hope you get rid of this nasty pest.
Traweaver3
01-04-2006, 02:48 PM
Gort!!
Did I read right??? Kashi brand is really made by Kellogg's??
Sure enough I just looked it up, and you are correct!! And here I thought I was supporting a small, all natural company. UHG!! If you believe what Kevin Trudeau says in his book, than it is totally possible that Kellogg's is adding unwanted chemicals to it's Kashi brand too.
Oh boy.....now what do I buy? We are hooked on Kashi crackers and Go Lean cereal at my house. I have been slowly switching to organic products over the past couple of years (not because of this book, but other readings) and have kept Kashi brand around because I thought it was okay. I really don't like the way Kellogg's is trying to trick me. If it is there company than just say so!! UHG!
So what kind do you buy now?
Tracey
Did I read right??? Kashi brand is really made by Kellogg's??
Sure enough I just looked it up, and you are correct!! And here I thought I was supporting a small, all natural company. UHG!! If you believe what Kevin Trudeau says in his book, than it is totally possible that Kellogg's is adding unwanted chemicals to it's Kashi brand too.
Oh boy.....now what do I buy? We are hooked on Kashi crackers and Go Lean cereal at my house. I have been slowly switching to organic products over the past couple of years (not because of this book, but other readings) and have kept Kashi brand around because I thought it was okay. I really don't like the way Kellogg's is trying to trick me. If it is there company than just say so!! UHG!
So what kind do you buy now?
Tracey
gort
01-04-2006, 08:40 PM
Gort!!
Did I read right??? Kashi brand is really made by Kellogg's??
Sure enough I just looked it up, and you are correct!! And here I thought I was supporting a small, all natural company. UHG!! If you believe what Kevin Trudeau says in his book, than it is totally possible that Kellogg's is adding unwanted chemicals to it's Kashi brand too.
Oh boy.....now what do I buy? We are hooked on Kashi crackers and Go Lean cereal at my house. I have been slowly switching to organic products over the past couple of years (not because of this book, but other readings) and have kept Kashi brand around because I thought it was okay. I really don't like the way Kellogg's is trying to trick me. If it is there company than just say so!! UHG!
So what kind do you buy now?
Tracey
You said it, they are delicious--uh, were. Unfortunately, I am cracker free for now until I find something chemical free to munch on. Doesn't have to be organic, but I don't want to eat soy or canola oil, or white sugar. Or artificial vanilla, which I have confirmed to cause headaches for me. Sugar cane is fine, stevia even better, but I never see any baked goods made with stevia. Guess it would make a box of cookies or crackers $10.00 lol.
The Go Lean cereal was easier to give up since it is high in soy, but the protein boost was good. Just in the last few months I've become disenchanted with soy because of what scientists say about its calcium depleting properties and messing with the thyroid gland. Fermented soy is supposed to be okay though.
Did I read right??? Kashi brand is really made by Kellogg's??
Sure enough I just looked it up, and you are correct!! And here I thought I was supporting a small, all natural company. UHG!! If you believe what Kevin Trudeau says in his book, than it is totally possible that Kellogg's is adding unwanted chemicals to it's Kashi brand too.
Oh boy.....now what do I buy? We are hooked on Kashi crackers and Go Lean cereal at my house. I have been slowly switching to organic products over the past couple of years (not because of this book, but other readings) and have kept Kashi brand around because I thought it was okay. I really don't like the way Kellogg's is trying to trick me. If it is there company than just say so!! UHG!
So what kind do you buy now?
Tracey
You said it, they are delicious--uh, were. Unfortunately, I am cracker free for now until I find something chemical free to munch on. Doesn't have to be organic, but I don't want to eat soy or canola oil, or white sugar. Or artificial vanilla, which I have confirmed to cause headaches for me. Sugar cane is fine, stevia even better, but I never see any baked goods made with stevia. Guess it would make a box of cookies or crackers $10.00 lol.
The Go Lean cereal was easier to give up since it is high in soy, but the protein boost was good. Just in the last few months I've become disenchanted with soy because of what scientists say about its calcium depleting properties and messing with the thyroid gland. Fermented soy is supposed to be okay though.
hyperkim
01-05-2006, 09:02 AM
how does soy mess with the thyroid gland? I mean does it suppress funtion or stimulate function? cause goiters, nodules, etc.? I am curious of the effects you are talking about....
gort
01-05-2006, 02:35 PM
how does soy mess with the thyroid gland? I mean does it suppress funtion or stimulate function? cause goiters, nodules, etc.? I am curious of the effects you are talking about....
The soy plant contains a high number of toxins to protect itself from predators. Large amounts of processing are needed to make it safe for humans to eat. Not all of the toxins are removed, however. Scientists call them "anti-nutrients." One of them is an acid that prevents calcium & zinc from being absorbed, and that same acid stops thyroid function, causing rapid weight gain, and then putting other hormones out of balance because the thyroid can't work properly.
If you google "the truth about soy" a lot of articles come up. The scientists recommend that Tempeh is okay because it is highly fermented, getting rid of most of the anti-nutrients. They are warning against the soy drinks and hydrolized soy protein, and soy oil products.
The soy plant contains a high number of toxins to protect itself from predators. Large amounts of processing are needed to make it safe for humans to eat. Not all of the toxins are removed, however. Scientists call them "anti-nutrients." One of them is an acid that prevents calcium & zinc from being absorbed, and that same acid stops thyroid function, causing rapid weight gain, and then putting other hormones out of balance because the thyroid can't work properly.
If you google "the truth about soy" a lot of articles come up. The scientists recommend that Tempeh is okay because it is highly fermented, getting rid of most of the anti-nutrients. They are warning against the soy drinks and hydrolized soy protein, and soy oil products.
Pig Lover
01-05-2006, 02:57 PM
DTemple, I have the same problems as you -- achiness all over, a white tongue, and discharge most of the time. I'm currently taking Nystatin for 2 months, as well as little or no sugar or fruit sugar. The Nystatin really does make me feel so much better, and pink spots are appearing on my tongue. I have confirmed 2 types of candida overgrowth via a stool test, given by my doctor, as well as a couple of bad bacteria forms near the pathogenic level. The Nystatin lulled me into a false sense of security that caused me to cheat and eat sugar, especially around the holidays with everyone making cookies, and I'd go right back with the aches & pains. Now, I'm taking the last dose (enough for one month, 3x a day), and I'm cutting out sugar altogether except for a little stevia. I am starting to think I'll never be able to enjoy the cookies & candy like I used to. Once the script is out, I'll go back to taking Oil of Oregano. I've changed my diet significantly in the last year to include a ton of vegetables every day rather than fruit, and hopefully with time, I can wake up and not feel those aches. I do have a few mercury fillings, but my budget does not allow me to have them removed. I'm better off not eating sugar, but boy is it hard work! Whipped cream, rum cake, oh the joy of it all!!!
hyperkim
01-05-2006, 04:30 PM
Gort....thanks for the reply. I have been taking a nutritional supplement with a soy base for almost 2 years now. I have felt much better since starting it. I recently found out that my thyroid over produces. From researching overactive thryoid, I believe I have had this recurring problem since childhood. The symptoms go that far back. I actually have a high calcium count but do need to take additional magnesium supplement to balance them out.
I have read that soy "suppresses" thryoid hormone production. I don't think it actually "stops" producing completely. For me suppressing production is probably why I started feeling better after starting the soy based product.
I only get about 7g of soy protein each day from that supplement. And an occasional glass of soy milk. I think moderation is the key with everything. Example, eating beef won't kill you. But having a hamburger for every meal everyday probably wouldn't be a good idea either. Just a thought........
Thanks again for the reply.
I have read that soy "suppresses" thryoid hormone production. I don't think it actually "stops" producing completely. For me suppressing production is probably why I started feeling better after starting the soy based product.
I only get about 7g of soy protein each day from that supplement. And an occasional glass of soy milk. I think moderation is the key with everything. Example, eating beef won't kill you. But having a hamburger for every meal everyday probably wouldn't be a good idea either. Just a thought........
Thanks again for the reply.
itburns2004
01-20-2006, 10:32 AM
I agree the book stunk!! When you do clear your system from candida just know you will expierence a die off effect and feel sick for a couple of days. There is a product called threelac. I bought it (its under a 100.00) I have not used it yet. I actually went my doctor and he gave me diflucan for 21 days. Had the die off effect that is why I am mentioning it, but when it passes you do feel good until it regrows. I am going to use the threelac, but I am on antibitics right now and want to wait. You really have to be careful what you do, there is soo much info, out there it is hard to know what is good or not. My husband thinks a good nutritionist is ideal.
horris
01-20-2006, 07:18 PM
he's a scammer... didnt u watch 60 minutes?Yes he is a scammer but that does not mean the information is not true. See the way i see it he use to be a scammer but after the FDA saw to it he was totally banned from selling any products.The only thing u could legally sell on tv is information writing books.Selling or scamming as they say it was his livelyhood. So now hes pissed and figured he doesnt have anything to lose and he could expose the FDA and other health orginizations for what they really are.Theyre hasnt been any other person that has so openy attacked the FDA and Pharmecutical industry like him.His motivation i see it is revenge.So whatever his reasons for writing the book good or bad doesnt mean its not true.
brucen32
01-21-2006, 12:26 AM
Yes he is a scammer but that does not mean the information is not true. See the way i see it he use to be a scammer but after the FDA saw to it he was totally banned from selling any products.The only thing u could legally sell on tv is information writing books.Selling or scamming as they say it was his livelyhood. So now hes pissed and figured he doesnt have anything to lose and he could expose the FDA and other health orginizations for what they really are.Theyre hasnt been any other person that has so openy attacked the FDA and Pharmecutical industry like him.His motivation i see it is revenge.So whatever his reasons for writing the book good or bad doesnt mean its not true.
It's also doesn't mean it is true.
It's also doesn't mean it is true.
russ60
01-21-2006, 11:16 AM
Well --what part do you believe?
I thiink you cannot take a chance with your health.
I thiink you cannot take a chance with your health.
hillaryb
01-21-2006, 02:15 PM
Ok, I haven't read every post here but what I can tell you is that no, I don't have this book, but I have others and his advice is pretty much the same as the advice I have seen in all alternative therapies books. So yes he is a scammer, but the book has decent info in it. My friend bought the book and claims he has never felt better. I bought into some of the theories years ago and have to say many of the remedies are awesome! I believe his schtick about drug companies, docs, etc. based on my own personal experiences but I know Kevin did not come up with any of this himself. He is using ideas that have been around for a long time.
The compromise that me and my friends have come up with is to see our docs, and keep informed about natural health therapies as well. Basically, it's a holistic way of life (though I haven't been able to locate a holistic doc in my area). You take care of yourself through diet, supplementation and exercise, and go to the doc for health problems. I don't think the book is false, but I would suggest that everyone do your research and educate yourself. I like the idea of taking care of yourself to prevent major health problems and wish more docs would promote a healthy lifestyle instead of treating problems caused by a patient's poor lifestyle. But I guess then they wouldn't be making the big bucks.
The compromise that me and my friends have come up with is to see our docs, and keep informed about natural health therapies as well. Basically, it's a holistic way of life (though I haven't been able to locate a holistic doc in my area). You take care of yourself through diet, supplementation and exercise, and go to the doc for health problems. I don't think the book is false, but I would suggest that everyone do your research and educate yourself. I like the idea of taking care of yourself to prevent major health problems and wish more docs would promote a healthy lifestyle instead of treating problems caused by a patient's poor lifestyle. But I guess then they wouldn't be making the big bucks.
michelle95
01-24-2006, 09:41 AM
I would have to say that I agree with the majority here. Kevin's book didn't sit right with me...because it was like he was desperate to convince us that he was trying to help us. But, then, you have to pay for his website for additional info. However, there are "nuggets of gems" in his book. You just have to compare with other readings to know which ones are accurate.
I do have to say that he's right on about the FDA and drug companies. After reading "Evidence of Harm" about the vaccine/autism controversy....I don't exactly trust the government. :rolleyes:
I do have to say that he's right on about the FDA and drug companies. After reading "Evidence of Harm" about the vaccine/autism controversy....I don't exactly trust the government. :rolleyes:
PBABY
01-24-2006, 01:39 PM
DTemple,
I can only give you some advice about Candida.
Diet:
Fermented foods that are raw, organic, unfiltered, unpasteurized, with live microbes are great!!! Kefir, yogurt (not the sweetened kind) will repopulate your gut with friendly flora which helps get rid of the candida overgrowth you have. ACV is also a good anti-fungal and so is homemade sauerkraut. Also, add some dark, leafy greens to your diet.
Supplements:
Oregano Oil or extract
Caprylic Acid
Collodial Silver
Garlic
Olive Leaf Extract
Grapefruit Seed Extract
If you take any of these, only take for 2 weeks, then switch over to a probiotic. If you don't wanna do the kefir and such, be sure to take acidophilus. Primal Defense is a probiotic which is excellent!! (I've used it myself for a yeast related issue, and it worked great!!) Fungal Defense is also great for candida sufferers, but you should only take it for a couple of weeks so as not to kill off the good bacteria. Here is a good schedule to follow.
2 weeks FD
1 month PD
2 weeks FD
1 month PD
Just repeat the cycle as needed.
Bottom line:
You can control your candida with the right diet (duh, you already knew that) and with some supplementation. But you also need to make sure you do some bowel management (enemas, colonics) and liver management.
Sorry if some of this has already been mentioned.
Good Luck!
PBABY
I can only give you some advice about Candida.
Diet:
Fermented foods that are raw, organic, unfiltered, unpasteurized, with live microbes are great!!! Kefir, yogurt (not the sweetened kind) will repopulate your gut with friendly flora which helps get rid of the candida overgrowth you have. ACV is also a good anti-fungal and so is homemade sauerkraut. Also, add some dark, leafy greens to your diet.
Supplements:
Oregano Oil or extract
Caprylic Acid
Collodial Silver
Garlic
Olive Leaf Extract
Grapefruit Seed Extract
If you take any of these, only take for 2 weeks, then switch over to a probiotic. If you don't wanna do the kefir and such, be sure to take acidophilus. Primal Defense is a probiotic which is excellent!! (I've used it myself for a yeast related issue, and it worked great!!) Fungal Defense is also great for candida sufferers, but you should only take it for a couple of weeks so as not to kill off the good bacteria. Here is a good schedule to follow.
2 weeks FD
1 month PD
2 weeks FD
1 month PD
Just repeat the cycle as needed.
Bottom line:
You can control your candida with the right diet (duh, you already knew that) and with some supplementation. But you also need to make sure you do some bowel management (enemas, colonics) and liver management.
Sorry if some of this has already been mentioned.
Good Luck!
PBABY
DTemple
01-24-2006, 07:30 PM
Pbaby,
Thanks, I printed your reply and will start to follow it. I already have most of the supplements you mentioned, I just didn't know what order to use them in. I am doing bowel management - I use a bentonite clay drink every afternoon. Could you please give more detail on the diet? Thanks.
Thanks, I printed your reply and will start to follow it. I already have most of the supplements you mentioned, I just didn't know what order to use them in. I am doing bowel management - I use a bentonite clay drink every afternoon. Could you please give more detail on the diet? Thanks.
PBABY
01-25-2006, 12:25 PM
DTemple,
Here is some more info.. It may be lengthy.
Vinegar is a yeast killer. Also, ]avoid foods such as soy milk, rice crackers, puffed cereals, fresh raw wheatgrass juice, raw veggies in general except for small cleansing salads. These foods are thought to be healthy but aren't for candida.
Make sure you have adequate digestive stomach acids or use digestive enzymes. Eat small, easily digestable meals. If you don't have adequate stomach acids or use digestive enzymes to digest your meals, the yeast will digest your meals which = feeding the yeast. Not good. Prepare your foods so that they are easy to digest and have fast transit times. Do pungetn therapy. That means eating and preparing foods that are mostly cooked with hot, pungent and carminative spices-cumin, ginger, garlic, basil, onion, cayenne, chili pepper, turmeric, curry, nutmeg, cardamon, cloves.
The Power of Digestion
Only eat as much as you can hold in both hands in a single meal. Eating too much complicates our systems and can turn good food into bad. That equals indigestion/acid reflux. Never drink iced drinks or very cold water with meals; stop drinking fluids 30 minutes before meals and up to 1 hour after. If you must drink something, drink herbal teas or warm lemon water. Spicy tea with lemon or peppermint tea is good for weak digestion.
On the supplements that I mentioned earlier, it is best to take them with some type of fiber or oil. That way they get absorbed better and have the proper affect on the yeast.
As far as the diet goes, you pretty much already know about the "no sugar, no wheat" and all the other no-no's when it comes to candida. Avoid fried foods, refined foods, and greasy foods. Fermented foods (as I mentioned earlier) are the way to go. They increase digestion and help kill the yeast-kefir, vinegar, foods cooked in pungent spices.
PBABY
ETA: I'll try to post a list of good foods and bad foods tonight when I have more time. I'm at work right now.
Here is some more info.. It may be lengthy.
Vinegar is a yeast killer. Also, ]avoid foods such as soy milk, rice crackers, puffed cereals, fresh raw wheatgrass juice, raw veggies in general except for small cleansing salads. These foods are thought to be healthy but aren't for candida.
Make sure you have adequate digestive stomach acids or use digestive enzymes. Eat small, easily digestable meals. If you don't have adequate stomach acids or use digestive enzymes to digest your meals, the yeast will digest your meals which = feeding the yeast. Not good. Prepare your foods so that they are easy to digest and have fast transit times. Do pungetn therapy. That means eating and preparing foods that are mostly cooked with hot, pungent and carminative spices-cumin, ginger, garlic, basil, onion, cayenne, chili pepper, turmeric, curry, nutmeg, cardamon, cloves.
The Power of Digestion
Only eat as much as you can hold in both hands in a single meal. Eating too much complicates our systems and can turn good food into bad. That equals indigestion/acid reflux. Never drink iced drinks or very cold water with meals; stop drinking fluids 30 minutes before meals and up to 1 hour after. If you must drink something, drink herbal teas or warm lemon water. Spicy tea with lemon or peppermint tea is good for weak digestion.
On the supplements that I mentioned earlier, it is best to take them with some type of fiber or oil. That way they get absorbed better and have the proper affect on the yeast.
As far as the diet goes, you pretty much already know about the "no sugar, no wheat" and all the other no-no's when it comes to candida. Avoid fried foods, refined foods, and greasy foods. Fermented foods (as I mentioned earlier) are the way to go. They increase digestion and help kill the yeast-kefir, vinegar, foods cooked in pungent spices.
PBABY
ETA: I'll try to post a list of good foods and bad foods tonight when I have more time. I'm at work right now.
PBABY
01-25-2006, 12:37 PM
Dtemple,
Just a few tidbits of what I posted...
I "practice" the no drinking of iced drinks with meals. However, I do drink water with my meals, and it is room temperature. I guess I'm just stubborn like that. I will also attest to the fact that spicy teas are GREAT for digestion!!! Ginger, peppermint, chai teas are all good!!! Yogi makes these teas, and they are quite good!! I also take digestive enzymes with each meal which have helped me tremendously!!!! I don't have candida ( I think I told you that earlier) but I do have some issues with digestion. So, I just wanted to let you know about that and that I do use some of the tips I gave you on good digestion. I take Solaray's digestive enzymes. They are inexpensive. Omegazyme (I think that's the name) are awesome but pricey.
PBABY
Just a few tidbits of what I posted...
I "practice" the no drinking of iced drinks with meals. However, I do drink water with my meals, and it is room temperature. I guess I'm just stubborn like that. I will also attest to the fact that spicy teas are GREAT for digestion!!! Ginger, peppermint, chai teas are all good!!! Yogi makes these teas, and they are quite good!! I also take digestive enzymes with each meal which have helped me tremendously!!!! I don't have candida ( I think I told you that earlier) but I do have some issues with digestion. So, I just wanted to let you know about that and that I do use some of the tips I gave you on good digestion. I take Solaray's digestive enzymes. They are inexpensive. Omegazyme (I think that's the name) are awesome but pricey.
PBABY
DTemple
01-25-2006, 04:17 PM
Pbaby,
I printed your reply again. No wonder I have cravings for sauerkraut, pickles and vinegar. I don't drink anything but room temperature bottled water. No sugar in my diet, hardly any white flour products. I can't drink anything with caffeine, such as most teas. But I do eat alot of raw veggies and salads and hardly steamed veggies so I guess I should cut down on that. I have digestive enzymes after each meal and they have helped me alot. I don't eat anything greasy or fried.
I printed your reply again. No wonder I have cravings for sauerkraut, pickles and vinegar. I don't drink anything but room temperature bottled water. No sugar in my diet, hardly any white flour products. I can't drink anything with caffeine, such as most teas. But I do eat alot of raw veggies and salads and hardly steamed veggies so I guess I should cut down on that. I have digestive enzymes after each meal and they have helped me alot. I don't eat anything greasy or fried.
PBABY
01-25-2006, 04:35 PM
Hey Dtemple!!
I have a quick break at work, so I thought I'd reply.
Sounds like you're eating the good stuff and avoiding the bad!!! Cool!!! But yeah, I would stop with the raw veggies. They are already hard enough to digest w/out you taking any enzymes, and me personally, I feel it's better to not let that stuff stay in your gut any longer than necessary. Know what I mean? I'm sure the enzymes are helping w/the raw veggies, but why even go there, ya know? I would just eliminate them from your diet.
I'll be back later with that list of foods!
PBABY
I have a quick break at work, so I thought I'd reply.
Sounds like you're eating the good stuff and avoiding the bad!!! Cool!!! But yeah, I would stop with the raw veggies. They are already hard enough to digest w/out you taking any enzymes, and me personally, I feel it's better to not let that stuff stay in your gut any longer than necessary. Know what I mean? I'm sure the enzymes are helping w/the raw veggies, but why even go there, ya know? I would just eliminate them from your diet.
I'll be back later with that list of foods!
PBABY
PBABY
01-25-2006, 10:04 PM
Good Foods
Grains: Quinoa, amaranth, teff, barley, and millet occasionally. Wild rice, basmati rice (if prepared with legumes and pungent spices)
Legumes: Lentils, garbanzo beans/chick peas, mung beans, adzuki beans, green peas, kidney beans, black beans, great northern beans. Avoid canned beans.
Vinegar/vinegary foods: Basically what you have said you're doing now. Kimchee, umeboshi plums, pickled ginger, sauerkraut. Just make sure the vinegar foods are raw and organic or preferrably homemade using Braggs ACV with the mother in it. Make sure the sauerkraut is homemade-cannot be pasteurized or irradiated b/c it can be susceptible to yeast if it is.
Breads: Ezekial bread or tortillas from brown rice flour or other non-wheat, non-gluten flour.
Pasta: brown rice pasta or quinoa pasta
Nuts: raw almonds, brazil nuts, cashews, hazelnuts. Almond or hazelnut butter is okay, too.
Spices: Any. Also, tamari, Celtic salt, kosher salt.
Oils: EV, cold-pressed coconut, olive, flax, Udo's choice, evening primrose, borage, fish, cod liver, safflower, ghee, sesame, toasted sesame, sunflower, almond.
Meats: any organic, pasture-grazed sources. Organ meats, chicken, cornish game hen, pheasant, turkey, beef, buffalo, ostrich, moose, elk, venison.
Seafood: fish, shellfish, caviar, shrimp, oysters, sardines, tuna, salmon
Dairy: vanilla rice dream, or almond milk. Avoid soy or soy based products, except for tofu or tamari. Eggs are okay as long as they are poached or soft scrambled. NO HARD BOILED!!!!
Veggies: limit starchy veggies the first month, otherwise all others are okay.
Drinks: water, herbal teas (the ones I mentioned earlier are caffeine free), rice milk, almond milk.
Fruit: Lemon, limes, grapefruits are fine. Only 1 small serving per day of the following-green apple, pears, blueberries, raspberries. Unsweetened cranberry juice is okay.
Sweeteners: Stevia is fine anytime. Sweet 'n Low and Xylitol very rarely
Bad Foods
Okay, you pretty much know this one. Let me see if there is something that hasn't been mentioned....
No refined sugars of ANYKIND!!!
No cheese
No coffee or black tea
No refined table salt
Avoid sausages, deli meats except for roasted turkey breast
Okay, I think that's it.
PBABY
Grains: Quinoa, amaranth, teff, barley, and millet occasionally. Wild rice, basmati rice (if prepared with legumes and pungent spices)
Legumes: Lentils, garbanzo beans/chick peas, mung beans, adzuki beans, green peas, kidney beans, black beans, great northern beans. Avoid canned beans.
Vinegar/vinegary foods: Basically what you have said you're doing now. Kimchee, umeboshi plums, pickled ginger, sauerkraut. Just make sure the vinegar foods are raw and organic or preferrably homemade using Braggs ACV with the mother in it. Make sure the sauerkraut is homemade-cannot be pasteurized or irradiated b/c it can be susceptible to yeast if it is.
Breads: Ezekial bread or tortillas from brown rice flour or other non-wheat, non-gluten flour.
Pasta: brown rice pasta or quinoa pasta
Nuts: raw almonds, brazil nuts, cashews, hazelnuts. Almond or hazelnut butter is okay, too.
Spices: Any. Also, tamari, Celtic salt, kosher salt.
Oils: EV, cold-pressed coconut, olive, flax, Udo's choice, evening primrose, borage, fish, cod liver, safflower, ghee, sesame, toasted sesame, sunflower, almond.
Meats: any organic, pasture-grazed sources. Organ meats, chicken, cornish game hen, pheasant, turkey, beef, buffalo, ostrich, moose, elk, venison.
Seafood: fish, shellfish, caviar, shrimp, oysters, sardines, tuna, salmon
Dairy: vanilla rice dream, or almond milk. Avoid soy or soy based products, except for tofu or tamari. Eggs are okay as long as they are poached or soft scrambled. NO HARD BOILED!!!!
Veggies: limit starchy veggies the first month, otherwise all others are okay.
Drinks: water, herbal teas (the ones I mentioned earlier are caffeine free), rice milk, almond milk.
Fruit: Lemon, limes, grapefruits are fine. Only 1 small serving per day of the following-green apple, pears, blueberries, raspberries. Unsweetened cranberry juice is okay.
Sweeteners: Stevia is fine anytime. Sweet 'n Low and Xylitol very rarely
Bad Foods
Okay, you pretty much know this one. Let me see if there is something that hasn't been mentioned....
No refined sugars of ANYKIND!!!
No cheese
No coffee or black tea
No refined table salt
Avoid sausages, deli meats except for roasted turkey breast
Okay, I think that's it.
PBABY
flintrock
01-25-2006, 10:37 PM
I bought it...he's been sued over his allegations...he has made billions of dollars...if we all believed the book, we'd all be healthy as horses and the doctors would be out of business..................SCAM