Hi All

Well whilst making my mind up over whether to have my problem root canaled tooth extracted i developed the most awful pain which covered the right hand side of my face right down in to my neck and it was so intense i really couldn't tell where it was coming from. Off i went again to the dentist who examined my mouth and said he wasn,t sure either. Apparantly i have a wisdom tooth (lower right) that is decayed and has pockets(whatever that means) and that this could be causing me pain as well. The other problem tooth is a upper molar on the same side. He said he wanted to pull the upper one there and then but i panicked and said i couldn't go through with it although i know it is probabaly for the best as i have lost count of the amount of antibiotics i have took for this. Anyway he ended up giving me a copy of the x-ray to take to the dental hospital next week to see if they know whats going on and some more antibiotics. I got so upset and it didn,t help that my partner was shouting at me all the way home for not having the tooth pulled. I really don't know what to do next as the stess is killing me. Does anyone have similar problems with a wisdom tooth and can it cause so much pain. Thanks

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Maz

Hi Maz,
Yes wisdom teeth can cause lots of pain and so can the infected root canal tooth. I took many, many rounds of antibiotics also for the pain I was having for almost 2 years until I got courage up enough to have the root canaled tooth pulled. Really it was not as bad I had expected and was not worth all the anxiety I put myself thru. I have also had my wisdom teeth removed but it was not a simple extraction cause mine never surfaced and were impacked and had to be removed with by surgery. Believe me Maz the pain your going thru now is worse than the extraction. I know what you mean about your partner getting upset with you. My husband is like that and when I finally got the courage up to get the extraction done I went alone and never told him I was going in case I chickened out. Ha But I did it. Good Luck Maz and be strong and get it done, you can do it.

Your Friend, Sher

Hi Maz

I noticed you are from the UK same as me. How are you getting on. I too am suffering with dental problems and have found no boards or information in the UK.

Fudge

Hi sher

Thanks for your support. I know that i just keep putting things off but i just find it do very hard. I am supposed to be going to the dental hospital on tuesday but i have gone and arranged a big birthday party for my daughter for the following Sunday and i worry that if i have the extraction i will feel too unwell to do it, i also worry about the cost of the implant etc. I will try though but i am on antibiotics again and once they kick in and i feel ok i will be more reluctant to go.
How are you?, have you sorted out a new dentist?
Anyway must go have to see to 3 kids, 1 hubby, 2 cats 3 fish and a chinchilla.
Bye

Marie

Hi Fudge
Thanks for your reply
I am not so good at the moment , i just seem to get one problem after another. I don't think you will find many dental sites in the Uk most are in the US like this one but when you have problems there are some great people on here who can relate to you and it doesn't make much difference where they live . We do have the nhs though but it's just getting worse at some surgerys with the waiting list etc.

what problems have you got and have you got a good dentist? (very hard to find). I have just found a new one and he seems really nice he is just not totally sure what is causing me so much pain at the moment hence the referral to the dental hospital, I live in Sheffield and many of the dentists in the uk trained at this hospital .

Anway let me know how you are?




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Maz

Hello Maz,
Your going to think this is funny but I thought you were a guy until last post where you signed Marie. I have 2 close friends named Marie.... You were wondering about a Tuesday appointment and a Sunday birthday party. I had my tooth pulled out on a Tuesday and went out of town the next day and it did hurt some but not enough to make me stay home or any thing. After 3 days that was gone. Dentist gave me pain pills but I did not take but 1 or 2. No I have not found a new dentist yet either. I need to but hate the thought of doing it. I am due for check up in Jan. so will have to have one by then. Also have not decided what to do about this empty space from the extraction. I don't think I could do a dental implant. My jaw bone still aches in that area and I am not ready to start diging in it. I was told I most likley have nerve damage from having the infected root canaled tooth there for so long before I got the courage to have it pulled. I am suppose to see an oral surgeon for the pain but so far have not done that either. I just keep hopeing it will go away....... 3 kids? wow! I have one son that is grown and one ole cat....
Take Care..

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Sher

Hi Maz

I am glad to see you have a referral to a dental hospital. I would suggest that you go ahead and have the tooth out.

I have had years of dental problems and it has affected my health so badly I have been seeing my GP who is referring me to Oral Surgery and ENT.

I reached the point that I ask for extraction after failed root treatments and infection. I live in the South of England.

Best wishes
Fudge

Hi Maz

I have just seen your other posts and replies on the board. You seem to be having troubles like me.
I ended up with 4 months (22 visits) to a dentist working on 5 teeth after I went to the dentist with toothache in 1 tooth. The attempts at root treatments failed and I ended up in the oral surgery department of the teaching hospital where I work and had them extracted.

This has happened to me many times, dentists cannot see all of what is going on with XRays.

The teeth I have had extracted straight away without any attempts to 'save' them caused no infection or pain afterwards unlike the root canals.

I have been in a situation where because of ill health - low grade infection - it was suggested possibly I should have a full dental clearance, I wish I had pushed for it instead of suffering for 14 years more.

All the best
Fudge

This is my honest opinion, if your terrified DONT go through root canals etc get it out http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif if l had of done this l wouldnt of been in the state im in now with dentists (bad experience really bad) if any dentists read this the next time you have a really really terrified anxious patient dont talk them in to lengthy treatments............... this is the worst thing you can do http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif l know http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif

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Hi Fudge

You sound like you had a terrible time, it's hard to believe that your teeth could make you feel so unwell, i mean a toothache is a piece of cake compared to an infection. I hope you don't mind me asking but how old are you? and what have you done about the empty spaces?. I am 32 and have already lost some molars which was 12 years ago but this is one big tooth and i really need something there to chew on. At the moment i am on a liquid diet which is making me even more miserable as i love my food.
Kind thoughts

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Maz

Thanks for your support niecsey i really appreciate it. Could you tell me what happened to you? and how you managed to deal with it? as it may help me.

Thanks

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Maz

Hi maz, well ive always been a little afraid, had a few molars needing fillings well really should of been takin out considering they were less than half their normal size http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif but dentists like to save teeth right??? lol well had the fillings etc got the tshirt and badge then of course because of the size of them they fell out http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif so dentists decided l need a root canal glad at the time l didnt know what it was all about http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif lol so off i go get it done in chair for years (or it felt) so that made me nervy then he decides hes gonna crown them!!! so more long lenghty appointments more anxiousness this that and the other shoved in me gob, mouldings made mouldings that took some force to come out you know the score finally get a gold crown and a gold piece for other tooth, tells me the piecse arent always succsesful, so why did he do it??? money???? of course it fell off was in alot of pain had to get emergency appointment had to see his partner newy qualified gave me temp cover come off same night, went to appointment to have gold piece fitted had injection in gum and fely DESPERATE, ILL, told her and her and the nurse made jokes of people havin treatment having not told dentist they had othet illnesses etc about people fitting in chair and how common the need to use ressucitation equipment was http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bang.gif well can you imagine how l felt? l was lying there feeling like nothing ive felt before and your hearin all this???? went into waiting room to cool down still felt ill went back in cos she had to finish what she started, sat in chair while treatment went on for another half an hour left dentists in a state got home and was even more ill shaking, i thought i was gonna die, my hubby rang dentists and asked what the hell was happening to me this was some hours later l was not getting anybetter he explained although rare l could of developed an allergy to the injection and would put in my notes that i was not to have any injections with adrenalin, hence l didnt go back anyhow l decide if l got worse we would ring for an ambulance luckily after x amount of hours l was exhausted and finally fell asleep the strange thing was when i woke next morning l felt like l was brand new, l felt so good, yeah strange, lol l havnt been back even though i need wisdom teeth out l take real good care fo my mouth and suffer hardly, this is a brief explanation there is a lot more to it but l hope ive helped you feel free to talk to me and i will be about.............hope youve started the rinses, do as many as you need it dont taste nice but it works take care maz http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif

Niecsey that must have been awful for you. It's funny but the last couple of times that i had the numbing injection it had a bad affect on me too, i had to lie down in the surgery before they would let me go home. I am not sure if the reaction was just part of the anxiety or the the fact that i hadn't had anything to eat beforehand.
I am just in the process of raiding the cupboard for the baking soda so i will let you know i get on.
Kind thoughts

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Maz

Hi Maz

I am just 20 uears older than you and if you have dental problems it doesn't getter any better. I wish I had got rid of them all years ago.

I had a partial upper denture which caused problems with the last five upper teeth (front). I have finally had them extracted to have a full denture. I was fed up with losing them one, two or three at a time with an awful lot of pain and illness in between.

Believe me your teeth can make you very ill. Don't mess around if you are having trouble have them out. I certainly would not have an implant either.

Good Luck
Fudge

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Hi Maz,

Just wanted to let you know that I feel for you!!! Hope your pain is getting better, or at least not any worse. Just pull that stupid tooth (well, assuming they can figure out which one is causing the pain), and start saving for an implant (unless the teeth next to it are in need of crowns). That's what I would do (although it's easier said than done, I am sure).
BTW, we are about the same age (I'm 28). Scares me that we have so many years of potential dental problems ahead of us....

Thanks fudge and Zahn for your replies. the pain is terrible this morning , it seems to hurt right down as far as my shoulder. I have been very tearful which resulted in my partner shouting at me to pull myself together, which made me feel ten times worse.
Kind wishes to you both

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Maz

Hi Maz

I know what it's like when your partner shouts at you. For the past couple of months my husband has done nothing else to the point where most of the time we are hardly speaking. He seems to think whatever happens with my dental problems it's my fault.

Unless someone has or is having teeth troubles then they haven't a clue how bad it is.

You are not alone.

Take care
Fudge

Maz, Fudge,

I agree with both of you. My husband has not been sympathetic to my dental problems either (I'm sure that if it had just been a day of pain, he would have comforted me; but it's been going on and on and on, getting worse rather than better). Unless you know what it feels like to deal with daily pain and the prospect of losing a tooth/teeth, I think you just can't understand.
Thinking about you maz, in your time of horrible pain.

Maz

I agree with zahn put yourself first before your man and the children. As Neicsey has also said get them out. Once you have an absces or infection there (they cause pain) it will still be there if they TRY to save them.
I made the mistake of feeling a freak as I was made to feel it was my fault and somehow the teeth weren't the problem, I was making a fuss over a bit of toothache.

I have since learned that many men are such cowards they will just have the tooth/teeth pulled rather than treatments to save them and suffer much less because of it.

If today is the day of your dental hospital appointment stand your ground and say you have had enough and get the tooth/teeth pulled. I hope they are sympathetic to you. They should at least appreciate the problems wisdom teeth can cause. I have had iv sedation with no problems, but in the case of wisdom teeth they are likely to offer general anaesthetic as a day case patient. Go for it.

Do keep the appointment anyway, have you a trusted friend of relative to go with you.

My thoughts are with you, let us know how you do.

Fudge

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hi popped in to see how its going for you all good luck keep posting http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/heart.gif

Hi everyone

Thankyou all so much for your continued support, it really means alot to me. Well i made it to the dental hospital but they were very busy and i was there 4 hours which increased my stress levels. Anyway i saw a lovely dentist who did some x-rays which showed that my root canaled tooth was still infected and that the wisdom tooth looked in a bad way as well, but there was another suprise to the cause of some of my pain, apparantly my jaw is extremly tender and sore and she supected that due to all the stress i have been grinding my teeth. After a long chat the dentist decided that it would be in my best interest to have the extraction plus any other work that needs doing under iv sedation, which has made me fel much better, the only problem is i have to wait for an appointment for it as there is a waiting list. I do feel better now though despite the horrible pain because i know i will bw able to go through with it if they sedate me. My regular dentist asked if i wanted to se a specialist for a re-treatment but this was going to cost £500 with no guarantees that the infection wouldn't return. I have had enough now and from some of the things i have read about root canals i am sure i will be better off without it healthwise. I am just not sure what to do about my sore jaw now though , i wasn't even aware that i grinded or clenched my teeth and my other half hasn't noticed( mind you it takes alot to wake him up).

Anyway Thankyou again Fudge, niecsey, and zahn for giving me the strengh.

Best wishes to you all

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Maz

Hi maz

Great news I have thought about you all day.

Don't be persuaded to spend £500 on retreatments after infection they are likely to fail. I wouldn't recomend implants either.

Did they give any indication as to the length of the waiting list? Offer to take a short notice appointment if you can just in case they have a cancellation.

I hope your partner now appreciates what you have been going through.

Take care
Fudge

Hi Fudge

I think i will have to wait a few weeks but they couldn't be totally sure, i am just so pleased that i am able to get the sedation as it will mean an end to all this pain. It would be nice to have it all over by christmas and then i can make a fresh start next year, pain free for the first time in over a year. I don't fancy leaving the gap though , it is a very large tooth, what do you have against implants? and do you know what my other choices are?, i do have teeth either side but my gums are receeding round the back one exposing some of the root surface so i don't know if this would support a bridge plus the other tooth is about the only tooth i have left that is unfilled. I have gaps on the bottem from years ago and my gums always seem to get sore if i eat crisps etc.

Anyway here i go again going on and on.

Thanks for thinking of me

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Maz

Hi maz

You sound very much like me I wanted to hang on to my teeth and would do anything to keep them until I experienced 4 months of hell and 22 visits to a dentist for root canals which became infected even before they were finished and I ended up losing five teeth in one go. I originally went to the dentist with a problem with one tooth.

Then I found out how they did the canals and researched into putting metals etc into the jaw and making sure there is a good seal. Dentists only want to continue working on teeth to make money, once the teeth have gone they look at other ways of making money. Dentures don't generate any regular income from patients.

I feel if you have had problems with your own teeth, you will have problems with canals, implants, bridges etc.

Save your money, better off in your purse than a dentist's pocket.

Fudge