Has anyone had this experience? I went to the dentist to get one of my molars pulled on the upper right side of my mouth. I had a dull toothache for about a week and I wanted the dentist to pull it. So I went this past Thursday to have it pulled and he said he was not going to pull the tooth. He thought I should save it and said he was going to do a root canal. So he proceeded on doing the root canal. He said he pulled all the nerves out and to come back in about two weeks and he would fill it. I already have a crown on this tooth. He said I would have no more pain in this tooth because he pulled all the nerve tissue out. Well it is Saturday night and that tooth is acheing a little and when I put my tongue over the hole in my tooth it HURTS. Is it possible that he did not get all the nerve tissue out? When I suck on the tooth it has a horrible odor and taste. If he did not get all the nerve will it die before I go back and complete the root canal. This is my first root canal and if they are all like this I would rather they pull the tooth.
Any suggestions on why my toothache is coming back. The bad part is the dentist is on vacation until after Thanksgiving.
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chica loca
11-24-2002, 09:04 PM
Root canals that I've had usually hurt or are sore for a couple of days, depending on how bad the tooth was before the procedure. It has something to do with the connective tissue attached to the tooth, I've been told Sometimes, I have a wierd taste for a couple days after too, but more wierd than bad. Sometimes when I would rub my tongue over the tooth, I would have a sharp, quick pain, but it was gone by the time the tooth was finished.
It sounds like there's a possibility some infectious tissue might have been left behind. I know when the dentist opened my last tooth(for a retreatment and I had a crown too)the smell was pretty foul from the infection.
kdeese
11-24-2002, 11:31 PM
Thanks chica loca,
I hope the pain goes away. It is a little better today. I just avoid eating on that side of my mouth and I keep my tongue away also. I cannot stand the pain. Thanks for your reply. I feel better that someone else has experienced what Im going through.
tenntod
11-28-2002, 02:35 PM
I have had 8 root canals in my life with crowns put on each tooth. I have always been told by dentists that you should save your teeth. I trusted them. However, I don't trust them anymore. I've been "informed." I strongly encourage everyone to read the book "Uninformed Consent." We are making decisions based on ignorance. At least I did. The truth is, no dentist can get all of the dead nerve tissue out when doing a root canal. What about the accessary roots that come off the main nerve root in a tooth. You can't even see those in x-ray. Bacteria will always be there. So you have a low grade infection from that day on. Heck I've got a file brocken off in one of my nerve roots. And the dentists are taught that is safe. Common sense tells me it's not safe. Not to mention the fact that tooth hurt until I finally had it pulled. I say, "please inform yourself." If I knew then what I know now, I would have made different decisions on treatment. Please remember this. Dentists only know what they were taught at school. If you'll read that book I promise it will open your eyes a bunch! Good luck to all.
Tenntod
kdeese
11-28-2002, 04:07 PM
Tentodd,
Where can I get that book?
Kenneth
tenntod
11-30-2002, 02:00 PM
Hello Kenneth,
I checked the book out at my local library. If you can't find it at yours, you might try amazon.com or z-shops. They both carry the book.
Dr. Huggins the co-author of "Uninformed Consent" also has a website. He has free info there and also articles you may purchase and download. Like one article I purchased is called "Root Canals Savior or Suicide." After learning what I did from Dr. Huggins I'm so angry at the ADA I could scream. I really don't place blame on any dentist. There is alot they are not taught in school, not to mention they live in fear of loosing their licenses because of the "mercury almagam" issue. You will learn why if you read any of his material. The ADA is a powerful organization like the AMA. Sometimes it's all about "profit" and forget the safety of the patient. I'm sorry to get so worked up here. As I said you'll understand why if you inform yourself.
There is also a book written by George E. Meinig entilted "Root Canal Cover-up." This too will open your eyes. If nothing else, you will be "Informed" about the truth. There is so much we are not being told about the stuff they are putting in our mouths. It's toxic! Let me leave you with one example. If you were to look at any one profession that has the highest suicide rate, who do you think that would be? If you guessed dentists you are correct. Why? Mercury that is in the amalgam fillings they are putting in teeth 5 days a week. Or how about the old mercury in the amalgams they drill out on a daily basis? They are breathing that dust. So are the assistants. Mercury is the most toxic substance known to man, and they are putting it in our mouths.
And, Dr. Huggins says that root canals are 10 times more dangerous to our long term health.
Best of Luck,
Tenntod
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rhody
12-01-2002, 02:57 PM
tenntod,
Thanks for the information. I write about this subject all the time. After nearly nine years since I had my mercury-silver dental amalgams replaced, I have recovered significantly from a horrible health condition. There were times I couldn't walk to save my life, and now I run nearly 20 miles a week.
I've told this story so many times. Before I had the amalgams replaced, the health conditions gradually got worse over the years. After I had them replaced, the health conditions gradually improved over the years. It was a great struggle for me to get well. I'm so grateful for people like Dr. Huggins to reveal to us the poisons in dental amalgams.
People can believe what they like, and say that amalgams are safe, but they should (as a minimum) reveal to us that toxic mercury is in each and every dental amalgam. This mercury constantly leaks and accumulates in the body. Mercury is extremely poisonous - much more than lead. Why are they still called "silver fillings"? There's much more mercury than silver in a typical dental amalgam. We should be informed.
As far as root canals are concerned, I'm not ever going to have one either. I do not want to take a chance. Fortunately, my teeth now are healthy....
kdeese
12-01-2002, 03:08 PM
Thanks Tenntod,
I checked out the website and it has alot of info there. I noticed that too there is a link between High Blood pressure and mercury fillings. I am 38 years old and developed HBP for about 10 years ago. Im going to talk to my dentist about removing all the mercury out and see if my HBP goes away. I have tried every natural and herbal remedys and diets. My HBP still refuses to go down. When I get all the mercury fillings remove I will let you know if it helps. It's worth a try. Thanks again for the info.
kdeese
tenntod
12-03-2002, 01:48 AM
It really does my heart good to be able to share some very important information with people who care very much for their health. I'm also very grateful for people like Dr. Huggins who was/is willing to step up to the plate and tell us the truth.
I totally understand the health challenges that dental toxicity causes. Unfortunately, I'm looking at dental work that needs to be done. Root canal treatment on 2 teeth. This is such a hard decision but based on all the challenges I've had with my teeth through the years, I'm looking at dentures. It's not something I wanted at 48 years old, but it's also not the end of the world. I want my health back. Please do keep me posted on how you all do, and I'll do the same. Thanks for sharing your stories with me. Let's help Dr. Huggins get the word out. He has several other books that are so informative. Good luck.
Tenntod
tenntod
12-04-2002, 12:08 AM
Hello,
I wanted to apologize to the moderator "Wel-come" for posting a website on the board. I didn't remember reading that in the rules, so again please accept my apologies. It won't happen again.
I also wanted to be a little more specific and address rhody and kdeese with your posts to me.
rhody, It is so awesome that you were able to recover from your horrible health condition and now you are able to run 20 miles per week. I bet that makes you feel so good both physically and emotionally. Speaking of that, I'm not sure which part of our bodies are affected the most with all these toxic materials and root canals that dentistry of today performs on innocent people including children. The mind or the body. Actually they are one in the same aren't they? Did you do any detoxing with herbs to rid your kidneys, liver, and tissues of the mercury? Or did you just let time pass? If you're interested in detoxing, Dr. Richard Schultze has a free newsletter he'll send anyone and it teaches a person a lot. If you did do detoxing like Dr. Huggins talks about in his book. I'd get his protocal from his website. You wouldn't want to detox too quickly that's for sure.
Yes, we should be informed but we're not. Every person I've shared this information with has gotten very angry when I've told them. But I feel a moral obligation to share this info with people. I found out about Dr. Huggins, his books and his work by pure accident. I'm certainly grateful that he is ethical and is willing to tell the truth. As I said before, I don't know that we can blame our dentists. There is so much they are not taught in school about this subject. The ADA made sure that Dr. Weston Price's research that dates back to the 1920's is not in the libraries of the dental schools. That makes me very angry. These are our bodies, and we have a right to know the truth. I consider the root canal cover-up to be the worst invasion on my body and pocket book as well.
If the dentists are taught anything in regards to this subject I bet it would only be from a liability standpoint. According to what I read in Uninformed Consent, the ADA is who we should be screaming bloody murder at. Or better yet, thousands of people should ban together and file a Civil Lawsuit. I've read about several lawsuits in the State of California, but of course the amalgam manufacturers and the ADA were not held accountable. It makes me sick to my stomach.
kdesse, may I make a suggestion? When the time comes, you might consider choosing the wording carefully when you go to the dentist to have those amalgam fillings removed. In the State of Colorado they actually were trying to get a law passed where it would be illegal for a person to go to their dentist and ask them to remove the amalgams because the person considered them to be toxic to their body. Can you believe that? The ADA will stop at nothing to make sure they are not held accountable for the horrible things they teach and do each and everyday. I mean amalgam fillings have been banned in countries in Europe. The reason given: They have been proven to be TOXIC to our bodies and cause many very serious diseases. Even the C word. And yes, HBP. The list is very long. Little did we know some of our loved one's who have passed on, did so perhaps at the hands of modern dentistry. Sure makes you wonder doesn't it. Anyway, in the book by Dr. Huggins he talks about the issue of how to go about talking to your dentist when it comes to dental restoration. You might consider saying you would like the amalgams replaced because you want all white in your mouth. From what I understand a dentist cannot replace an amalgam filling because there might be a toxic issue. You see that would be admitting that this controversial subject is actually true. Talk about liability!
I certainly wish I could post website addresses because there is so much information out there. I hope you are able to find more on the web than I've been able to share. Best of luck, please do keep me posted. To your good health.
Tenntod
kdeese
12-04-2002, 07:45 AM
Thanks tenntod,
I went to the dentist yesterday and told him I wanted the mercury fillings out and he said he would do it. He told me that my insurance would not cover it since it is cosmetic. Im going to schedule all this some time in January. I will keep you posted on the progress and let you know if mu HBP goes down. Thanks for all your help. The website also was very helpful.
kdeese
Subie
12-04-2002, 11:01 AM
Hi Tenntod,
All of your information is interesting, but more so very, very scary to me. I've already had my share of root canals and I'm in my early 30's. You've mentioned that you've had your share as well. What do you plan on doing? Are you really going to get dentures? I have already convinced myself that "some day" I'll need to have dentures, so why not do it now. I just had a tooth pulled about a year ago and my dentist is urging me to have an implant...what are your thoughts about that? I've heard very good things about implants, but now I'm thinking what type of mental are they going to screw to my jaw bone?! I've been so up tight lately with my teeth and worry about these root canals that could be dangering my health. I just honestly don't know what to do....Thanks for listening
Subie
YesterdaysChild
12-04-2002, 06:39 PM
I just finished doing step two of my root canal yesterday. After this I have to do the "rebuilding" then the crown, but today I am experiencing intense throbbing pain. I thought this was supposed to be normal? Is this normal cause the pain has not subsided whatsover and it's been past 24 hours since the procedure. If my tooth is dead, then why can I feel such intense pain? During the procedure, they pushed something in and I could feel a sharp pain. After they were done, I asked her about my pain and she said it was normal. So I asked her about infection and she said it's impossible cause all my nerves were removed. I'll wait it out a few more days and if the pain doesn't subside, what should I do?
rhody
12-05-2002, 12:14 AM
tenntod,
Yes, I did start with herbs to detoxify my body, but that was way before I linked my health condition to my dental amalgams. It's a very long story that spans more than 20 years.
In the late 80's, I was so sick I wanted to die. My doctors could do nothing but make me worse. In desperation one day, I took pill after pill of herbs. I didn't care. I didn't care anymore. Anything was better than the misery that I was suffering. In those days I knew very little of herbs.
I didn't know if I would be rushed to the hospital and my stomach pumped out. I didn't know if the herbs would hurt me. Again, I didn't care. I was at the end of my rope....
Something strange happened after I took those herbs. I was watching TV, and I suddenly realized that the pain was gone. I was in awe. Something was working.
Afterwards I went back to my doctor and asked him if he knew anything about anti-inflammatory herbs. And what I remember to this day, was seeing him say, "No." and with the swirl of his white coat, he was out the door. It was like he was afraid of the word, "herb".
I knew something was helping, so at that point in my life I studied herbs and natural healing, trying to find the perfect set of conditions, so that the body could heal itself. The herbs that I took, were teas that I made every other evening or so. I took these herbs everyday, keeping the tea refrigerated to preserve them. I slowly improved, but the problems were still there.
About nine years ago, I linked the illness that I had to my dental amalgams when my tooth broke (molar exposing an amalgam). Over the years after having these mercury-silver dental amalgams replaced, I have improved so much, that the symptoms are hardly there anymore.
That's a very short version of what has happened to me in my life....
If you want to know more about the herbs that I took, I'd be glad to share that with you or anyone.
rhody
12-05-2002, 12:26 AM
kdeese,
You might get your insurance to pay part of the fillings, if your dental amalgams are in need of replacement. If the dentist feels that they are very old, then you could get them out and get non-toxic fillings instead.
That's what I did. Then I paid the difference between the white fillings and gray-black mercury-silver fillings. Check with your insurance.
Does that make sense? You see, you'd be not getting white fillings for cosmetic reasons alone, but to improve your teeth. Choosing non-toxic fillings as an alternative would be your choice, like buying a luxury car instead of the economy model.
Your insurance may only pay for "basic transportation", but you might want something a little better....
If anyone gets their dental amalgams replaced, please make sure that you have your dentist use a dental dam and the ventilation is very good. That's very very important. The mercury in those amalgams is extremely toxic.