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dstebbins
11-20-2005, 01:18 AM
Hi. I'm David, and I'm a sixteen-year-old junior in high school. It should be noted that I have an irrational phobia of fire. How I can talk about fire is beyond me, but I can't stand the sight of it. I don't mind them on TV, or in a book. It's just when I see it in real life that my phobia kicks in.

So I was in Chemistry class two Mondays ago. My teacher was demonstrating the classical science experiment of mixing potassium with water. If you know chemistry, you know what happens next.

When the fire came up from the water, just that little bit, I lost all sense of myself. I vaguely remember myself screaming and knocking over desks, and I have memories of the school principle and my mother in her work uniform trying to help me to my feet. Most vividly, however, I remember feeling so terrified that I felt like I had seen the Devil himself. I had only regained full sense of myself about a week ago, when I was laying in a hospital bed, with my parents and best friend (age 20) by my side.

When the doctor came in, he said "Oh good. He's awake." He told me that my heart was slightly weakened from a minor heart attack. He said it was miraculous, how minor the heart attack was, because the shock he recorded should have triggered a heart attack strong enough to kill me the instant I saw the fire. I guess God was with me. Praise the lord.

Can anyone give me any words of comfort? I feel so weak right now, although I felt ten times as weak when I first woke up. I can't even type as fast as I used to without my fingers becoming fatigued.

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SolidSnake320
11-20-2005, 03:44 AM
well... good to see your still alive.. :)

I have sort of a similar phobia.. but it's more common..
it's with roller coasters..
I go to six flags sometimes. I ridden some, but I still have alot of trouble..
Everytime we arrive... I see the big coasters..

I remember riding Viper for the first time.. But as I was going in. I felt sheer terror..
I was horrified.. I kept thinking to myself.. "*** are you thinkin? Turn around!"..
I kept pounding the wood rail with my fist really hard, making a beat just to calm my nerves.. I felt terrified, that really nasty feeling you get in your gut.. I also felt like throwing up.. I saw the exit or the "Coward's Exit" which is what I told myself it was.. To keep from taking that oppourtunity to escape while losing an oppourtunity to have one of the best rushes in my life..
When the coaster came, I got on. Took a deep breath.. On the first drop it was scary, but I found myself enjoying it after that.
From then on, I was into coasters..

It's just a matter of forcing yourself..

I am sure it is harder with you.
I hope this helps, but think about the great and positive things about fire..
Cooks your juicy steak on the grill :) MMMMM!!!! :D

Melted Marshmellows :)

Sitting with your girl warm by the cozy fireplace ;) :cool:

Try introducing yourself to fire little by little.. For instance.. Have someone light a candle from far away.. Look at it.. Notice it is just tiny little flame..

It's puny! Just one quick blow and poof.. it's gone!

walk little by little closer.. notice it has not turned into an inferno?

it's still a small little candle...

just don't listen to those voices that tell you it's dangerous..

dstebbins
11-20-2005, 04:43 PM
Try introducing yourself to fire little by little.. For instance.. Have someone light a candle from far away.. Look at it.. Notice it is just tiny little flame..

It's puny! Just one quick blow and poof.. it's gone!

walk little by little closer.. notice it has not turned into an inferno?

it's still a small little candle...

just don't listen to those voices that tell you it's dangerous..
No offense, but don't you think I should wait until my heart gets better before I take the risk of another, potentially more serious heart attack?

besides, I sit in the back of the class. My teacher assigned that seat to me because of my height, so classmates wouldn't have to look around me. I didn't even feel the heat. It was just the sight, and I paniced from a candle's worth of fire, and it ALMOST KILLED ME FOR GOD'S SAKE!

I can imagine that you think you were feeling "sheer terror" on the roller coaster, but for god's sake, I had a freaking heart attack!

SolidSnake320
11-20-2005, 08:20 PM
No offense, but don't you think I should wait until my heart gets better before I take the risk of another, potentially more serious heart attack?

besides, I sit in the back of the class. My teacher assigned that seat to me because of my height, so classmates wouldn't have to look around me. I didn't even feel the heat. It was just the sight, and I paniced from a candle's worth of fire, and it ALMOST KILLED ME FOR GOD'S SAKE!

I can imagine that you think you were feeling "sheer terror" on the roller coaster, but for god's sake, I had a freaking heart attack!I said that yours must be worse than mine.. A heart attack is serious.. I never said to try right away :o .....

What is it about the fire that triggers the fear?
Was it a bad childhood experience?
Are you afraid of it dropping and catching the house on fire?
Or just spontaniously bursting?

Anyway.. Hope you get better real soon to go home :) ..
Just remember one thing. There is nothing to fear but fear it'self..

I know that a phobia, especially one as bad as yours is extremely hard to get rid of.. But try not to let it get you down. ;) It takes time to get over your worst fears. Like you said "I guess God was with me. Praise the lord.". Now I don't think God allowed you to have a phobia to be mean.. It may be for a reason.. Everyone has something for a certain reason.. Maybe he has something planned for you.. A way of getting over your fear.

SolidSnake320
11-20-2005, 08:45 PM
I have a confession actually.. :(

It's not coasters I am terrified of.. It's Earthquakes.. I have lived in california for years. And in the year of 2000. There was the hecter mine earthquake. That was the first time I awoken in a quake.. I was terrified.. I could not sleep that night cuz the after shocks.. The next night I also had trouble sleeping.. Then later I found out that I was sleep walking. My parents were alittle weirded out an worried.
Then later I found it was some sort of post tramatic stress syndrom that I had... I was still in shock from it that in my sleep I got dilusional.. I just could not sleep well because I had a feeling that another quake was going to happen... I was thinking "It's comming, I just know it".. Any little thump noise I heard stressed me out alot..
Since then for about a year I slept with the light on.
But later.. In class we had a discussion about death.. Then that's when it hit me.. The only reason why I am scared of an earthquake is because I am scared of BEING scared..
The last quake was tough, but LOOK! I am still here.. That quake had nothing on me! Not even a scratch!
Then I figured that hey... We all die sometime... Just laugh in the face of death.. Not that I am crazy and risking my life.. But I am just not afraid anymore....

For example. We moved to Illinoise a few years back.. We almost had a tornado. But instead of feeling helpless and terrified like I did with the earthquake.. I ran to the closet got the digital camera, and ran outside to record it..

It was not a scary feeling, but more of a mix between terror and excitement.. I knew it was something big and dangerous that was happening but I just really wanted to see a tornado in real life.
I was relieved but also disapointed that it never touched ground :P ..

But anyway. I hope something happens not for anything bad, but for something good that SCARES the fear OUT of you.. And you find yourself "a shell of your former self"..

Good luck man! I hope you can get over your fear. Take your time. When you are ready..

And don't take my story to heart or anything.. Not telling you to kill yourself with all my "not afraid of death" buisness..

Just give yourself some time..
Fire is just an element you need to respect.. It's not out to get you. Fire only gets dangerous if you are careless.. Other than that it's just an active form of matter that releases energy as heat.. Just abunch of boring science :P ..

I know that statement can't cure your phobia. But as long as you find some help, find some way. You can get rid of it.
Just take your time. Enjoy life. And stay away from spoiled milk :p ..

dstebbins
11-20-2005, 09:40 PM
You know, I restart school tomorrow, and I'm probably not going to hear the end of this from another guy named David (his last name is Bliss. Mine is Stebbins). He takes it upon himself to harrass me every chance he gets, and I just know due to a feeling inside me that he's going to bring his lighter (he smokes) and light it up in front of me just to get an adrenaline rush. The sad thing is that I have to go to school or else my parents get put in prison.

Btw, do you think I'm faking this? It really gets annoying when you try to look for comfort and everyone thinks you're just looking for attention.

SolidSnake320
11-20-2005, 10:14 PM
You know, I restart school tomorrow, and I'm probably not going to hear the end of this from another guy named David (his last name is Bliss. Mine is Stebbins). He takes it upon himself to harrass me every chance he gets, and I just know due to a feeling inside me that he's going to bring his lighter (he smokes) and light it up in front of me just to get an adrenaline rush. The sad thing is that I have to go to school or else my parents get put in prison.

Btw, do you think I'm faking this? It really gets annoying when you try to look for comfort and everyone thinks you're just looking for attention.no.. not at all.. Sorry if I sounded offensive..
I was just trying to help out.. Guess it's the wrong way.. Sorry man..
I don't think your joking at all.. Seriously man...
Just thought it would help if I shared my fears aswell.. I dunno..

And about that guy... Well.... Can you tell anyone about him?
I swear I hate people like that.. THey feel better about themselves just cuz they can take advantage of someone's weak point...


The best advise I can give is that if he does light a cig in front, turn around and just walk away... Or you can tell someone b4 he tries anything stupid like that..?

gardenandcats
11-21-2005, 12:55 AM
I find it hard to believe that a 16 year old had a heart attck! There has to be a reason beyond fire that would make you have a heart attck. Has your doctor run the proper test to see if you have any type of heart abnormalities? A healthy 16 year would not have a heart attack unless they had a unhealthy heart!
Did you have a stress test? EKG? Ultra sound? This sounds mighty odd to me.

feelbad
11-21-2005, 10:47 AM
I feel for you.it really IS highly,very highly unusual for someone of your age to actually suffer a true heart attack,that must be rather scarey to live with.Do they believe that you have some sort of a congenital(from birth)problem with the heart or do they even know yet?that definitely needs much more in depth testing and looking into by a cardiac doc.

now,as far as your fear of fire.That actually really intrigues me from the standpoint of having been a firefighter/medic for over fifteen years up til a few years ago when a spinal cord surgery left me disabled.Do you know just what actual'part' of the fire itself really sets you off?like the thought of what it can do,or feeling the heat?this just seems like such a huge over the top type of a reaction to seeing fire.i know myself,i have a very healthy respect for it and what it can possibly do when it shows up in the wrong places,but i do not actually 'fear it" as I know i have ways to control it,do you know just what I am trying to say?i cannot think of any reason for your fear other than at some point in time,who knows when.this could have stemmed from "something' that actually occured while you were even a very very young child that impacted you so much that it is(please excuse the wording here)actually "burned" into your memory or in your sub concious memory.this could have stemmed from an actual event that involved you getting to close to something hot or even recieving some sort of burn or even intense heat exposure or something as benign as you simply seeing something destroyed by fire(it IS in some cases a very awesome and possibly overwhelming site in its true "rolling"state)or even seeing it happen on the news one day or something.

just exactly what takes place when you see an actual fire like by accident and when you know that you are about to see one.By this I mean,what takes place in your mind and body specifically.how does your mind and body respnd besides the obvious increased heart rate?

I DO believe you,really.After all of the beyond the realm of normal really bizarre medical issues that I myself and my son(who is a whole other story in itself)have experienced over just the past six years,if there is one big thing i have learned,it is that ANYTHING IS indeed possible.are you currently on any sort of meds or any other treatments or tests going on at this time?if you could answer some of the questions i have asked,itwould really helpme alot in trying to help you.hang in there,marcia

dstebbins
11-21-2005, 01:57 PM
I find it hard to believe that a 16 year old had a heart attck! There has to be a reason beyond fire that would make you have a heart attck. Has your doctor run the proper test to see if you have any type of heart abnormalities? A healthy 16 year would not have a heart attack unless they had a unhealthy heart!
Did you have a stress test? EKG? Ultra sound? This sounds mighty odd to me.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I get upset when people call me a liar, but I guess that's all I can expect when I post something on the internet, since I have no way to prove it except my word. I guess I need to see doctors and counsellors, not internet bullies. I was just looking for comfort. I was very naive to think I'd find it on the internet.

oh and btw, I'm not "healthy" at all. Notice that this is my first thread on this board because I'm not usually concerned with my health. I'll eat an entire medium Pizza Hut meat lovers pizza by myself and think nothing of it. and I rarely get excercise. I'm going to start doing that to get my heart better, but I'm confident that my poor health played just a role in my heart attack as my phobia.

SolidSnake320
11-21-2005, 08:44 PM
I'm sorry you feel this way. I get upset when people call me a liar, but I guess that's all I can expect when I post something on the internet, since I have no way to prove it except my word. I guess I need to see doctors and counsellors, not internet bullies. I was just looking for comfort. I was very naive to think I'd find it on the internet.

oh and btw, I'm not "healthy" at all. Notice that this is my first thread on this board because I'm not usually concerned with my health. I'll eat an entire medium Pizza Hut meat lovers pizza by myself and think nothing of it. and I rarely get excercise. I'm going to start doing that to get my heart better, but I'm confident that my poor health played just a role in my heart attack as my phobia.
I believe you man,
so does "feelbad"..
Look, if you really need comfort though, the net is not always good. Someone like a parent, a good friend, or an understanding teacher is good to talk to..

kirafaye
11-21-2005, 09:13 PM
some people here seem to have forgotten what a phobia is....its an irrational fear to everday things/occurances....may of us have fears...I don't like heights, but a phobia is much worse.
Wehn ur feeling better maybe you could start see a psychaitrist (i'M 19 and I did, they really help validate things for you and ignore the stigmata behind it) they could help make the phobia lessen into maybe a slight fear of it for your health sake.

With this Kid I would have a hose/watergun or drink bottle with you and if he even makes the suggestion of it throw water at him and walk away. If someone calls you in simply state its part fo your phobia liek what happened last time and he was obviosuly trying to inflict harm on you so you defnded yourself in a mild way (ie its only water).

As for having a heart attack at this age, basically now days anythign is possible at any age (generlisation don't attack) it is RARE for it to happen but it still would have better odds then winning the lottery and some does win the lottery so.....

I know what it feels like to not be believed...my own grandparents and father woudl watch me to see if I was faking it all the doctors pretty much thought I was na idiot and so was mum.....it wasn't until they foudn the brain deformity did they go whoops....and still my grandparents haven't apologised and cause its rare alot of people have never heard fo it and don't understand because I 'look' perfectly healthy. There is nothing you can do about it except keep telling urself you know the truth and thats all that matters.

You probably had a full cradiological workup at hospital but I would continue to see one now ur hearts weakened.

hmjevon
11-21-2005, 10:59 PM
Hey--How was school???? Let us know...... I hope all went well!!!!!!!

You're in my thoughts

dstebbins
11-22-2005, 06:22 PM
Hey--How was school???? Let us know...... I hope all went well!!!!!!!

You're in my thoughts
just got home. He didn't light the lighter. Thank god.

feelbad
11-23-2005, 09:11 AM
Just a thought here if this kid decides to be a total as* and actually torment you with that lighter?talk to the principal about it so you two are not in any of the same classes and also,if he STILL seeks you out just to torment you,go to the police(honestly,if this is really as bad as you say,it COULD be life threatening to you to even be around this idiot)and discuss the possibility of actually taking out a restraining order against him.This would only a last resort type of measure done only if he is actually tormenting you in any big way,but IT IS an option if you can see no other way.just a thought.I would see about having either his or your classes changed though if possible,there is no reason at all that you should have to be subjected to his childish and at times,down right dangerous behavior towards you.just remember,you DO have options here and the right to be able to actually go to school without any sort of fear from anyone.This can also be adressed through the school board if need be.remember,options.K?? hope things stay on track here with you.you DO need to really see a cardiac doc AND really,seek out a good therepist to help with this overwhelming fear of fire that you have or this could really cause you even more problems down the road.as if the heart attack possibility isn't bad enough,huh?please do this for yourself,you deserve to be happy and healthy and live a normal life.please keep us all posted here okay?hang in there,FB

dstebbins
11-23-2005, 04:28 PM
I've taken it upon myself to briskly walk around the yard every day to get some excersise. I'm getting better. Today I managed to go six minutes before I had to stop for breath.

Just figued I'd give you a journal entry on my heart.

SolidSnake320
11-24-2005, 04:14 AM
ya man.. feelbad is right.. that guy needs to kept in his place.. I can't stand people who like to bully and torment others for their own pleasure..
Gald your home BTW.

Just remember, fire is under your control as long as you respect it. I know saying that can't cure your fear.. But I hope it atleast can give you alittle help in dealing with it..
Just think that in your head..
Fear is stressful, but thinking of positive things can help. IF you ever see I flame.. Just turn your head, take a deep breath, and try not to think of the bad things about fire. Think of the benifits of it..
Ya, I sound like a crackpot :( .. But it does help get rid of some stress..

Good luck to you homie :cool:

dstebbins
11-24-2005, 09:20 PM
ya man.. feelbad is right.. that guy needs to kept in his place.. I can't stand people who like to bully and torment others for their own pleasure..
Gald your home BTW.

Just remember, fire is under your control as long as you respect it. I know saying that can't cure your fear.. But I hope it atleast can give you alittle help in dealing with it..
Just think that in your head..
Fear is stressful, but thinking of positive things can help. IF you ever see I flame.. Just turn your head, take a deep breath, and try not to think of the bad things about fire. Think of the benifits of it..
Ya, I sound like a crackpot :( .. But it does help get rid of some stress..

Good luck to you homie :cool:
Well, it's thanksgiving holidays right now, so I don't have to worry about school until Monday.

But this is something I don't get: I was riding in the car to Wal-Mart to pick up some last-minute thanksgiving dinner items, and I saw someone burning their trash. I was terrified, but I didn't lose all sense of myself like I did when my teacher dropped the potassium into the water. It's like my fear and the size of the fire are inversely proportional, and I don't get it. Larger fire should make me even more horrified, shouldn't it?





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