jessica1
02-27-2003, 04:00 PM
i have about 80% fillings in my mouth , would it be normal to taste metal? would this cause high levels of mercury? mine is 17
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jessica1 02-27-2003, 04:00 PM i have about 80% fillings in my mouth , would it be normal to taste metal? would this cause high levels of mercury? mine is 17 Sponsor rhody 02-27-2003, 09:20 PM "Silver" fillings are composed of approximately 50 percent mercury. Anyone who has these dental amalgams has mercury in their bodies. It's extremely toxic. I had mine removed about nine years ago. It's was the best thing I could do, to recover. I write about this a lot. If you want more information, please let me know. You've probably heard of me before. Some people say that mercury is safe in our mouth. It's something I don't personally believe. But for you and others, I must let you know that it is one of the most toxic metals imaginable for the human body. I won't think it's "normal" for a person to have a metallic taste in their mouth. I started thinking about it. I didn't remember having that metallic taste, but maybe I did. Does it taste like when a person accidentally bites into aluminum foil? That's the kind of taste I seem to remember. It's been so long, I can't remember exactly.... The symptoms of my sickness were similar to one who has fibromyalgia. Plus I had gum disease and loose teeth. Fortunately, I didn't believe my doctor who said I was getting too old at age 27. I knew it was something else, down deep. I was lucky to have discovered the source of my medical problems. These got worse gradually over the years. When I was in my 20's, it was minor. As I approached and entered my 30's, I had some serious troubles. About ten years later and more, I felt like near death at times (before I had my amalgams removed and some anti-mercury experiments that I conducted on myself shortly after). I survived all of this ordeal over the years. Now with all "white" teeth, I now run nearly 20 miles a week....and feel very healthy. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif Lisasv1 03-08-2003, 03:01 PM That's not true about dental fillings containing 50% mercury. The mercury content in most amalgams is less that 2 percent. Toobusy 03-08-2003, 09:35 PM I had that metallic taste. One of my fillings was "leaking". They replaced it and the taste went away. Lynn Lisasv1 03-09-2003, 12:15 AM LOL, Leaking fillings mean that it's an old filling that has lost it's retention to the tooth's prep. If saliva and bacteria go down into the leak, it causes more decay possibly closer to the nerve. That's why dentists replace "old" or "worn out" fillings. Lisasv1 03-09-2003, 12:17 AM The metal taste in you mouth is probably due to an overload of metals and minerals from your diet. If you take multi-vitamins with excess iron or other metals, this too will give you a metallic taste in your mouth. rhody 03-09-2003, 11:50 PM All typical mercury-silver dental amalgams contain approximately 50 percent mercury. That is a fact. Anybody can read about this. They mix the powdered metals (like silver, copper, tin, zinc etc.) with liquid mercury to make a paste. This paste is used to fill the cavities. Dentists have special protocols to follow with these hazardous materials, as it is considered very dangerous. It may be a little surprising, but true. I'd be glad to provide more details to anyone, upon asking. Just check any reliable source, including the American Dental Association. rhody 03-10-2003, 12:20 AM Also check with any dentist - they know that each and every "typical" dental amalgam contains approximately 50 percent mercury. They must handle it very carefully. Even though some people say that mercury is safe in these amalgams, they can not deny that about 50 percent of each filling is mercury, and the fact that this mercury constantly leaks throughout the body and is accumulated in tissues. Any person with dental amalgams for some time has this mercury in their lungs, brain, liver, kidneys, and numerous other locations. They now also know how much of this mercury leaves the dental amalgam after a number of years. It varies depending on the amount of copper in the amalgam, plus other factors, like how much a person chews. For example, if someone chews gum everyday all day, they are going to release more mercury, than someone who does not. It is a fascinating subject. Also note that all dental personnel that handle mercury are subject to mercury vapors. I feel that utmost care must be made when these mercury-silver dental amalgams are removed from the teeth, by giving the patient a dental dam, plus making sure that the ventilation is proper. singer1 09-17-2004, 06:06 PM I have had my filling (2) for several years. What kind of fillings are they most likely to be? and is this dangerous? Cookie531 09-17-2004, 10:46 PM This whole mercury poisoning thing is nonsense. The chemical nature of the mercury changes when it is combined with other materials in the amalgam making it harmless. There is less mercury released in the mouth when chewing than in the air, food and water. There are a very very few individuals who are "allergic" to amalgams and in these people there might be some problems, but for the general population there is no scientific evidence of any disease resulting from mercury amalgams. I've had a mouthful of silver fillings my whole life and I've had no problems associated with them. rhody 09-18-2004, 11:01 PM Hi Singer1, If your fillings are a gray-black color, they most likely are mercury-silver dental amalgams. They contain approximately 50 percent mercury. For some people with these fillings they don't have any "noticeable" sicknesses. This mercury leaks and accumulates in the body. The amount of the mercury leakage varies greatly depending on many factors. All things considered equal, people with only two fillings would be exposed to a lot less mercury than someone with eight fillings. Being dangerous is a relative term, so it's hard to answer that. All I can say, is that if you don't want mercury fillings, then there's lots of alternative cosmetic fillings to pick from. I tell people not to panic, because they have mercury fillings, but rather to spend the time reading about it, and make an informed choice. Too many people, say they are safe or harmless, without knowing the facts. They may have read or heard about this from their medical professional. For those of us, that have spent a great deal of time with this subject, we know that these mercury-silver dental amalgams are not harmless. The mercury is not hardened inside. These mercury fillings are not molecular structures, with covalent bonds. They are considered "mixtures", with weak metallic bonds. In the past, some medical professionals have compared mercury fillings to salt or water. Comparing a mixture to a molecular compound such as salt or water is completely wrong. Even students with first-year chemistry know this. I often wonder how people with a mouth full of fillings say they are not sick. Have they never had a migraine headache? Do they never take pain-killers? I can say this, although myself. Since I had my mercury-silver dental amalgams removed it's rare that I now ever have a headache. I almost never take any orthodox drugs or pain killers. When I had a kidney stone attack a few years back, I made an exception then...and took the pain pills. Some of my worst headaches I had in my life, was when my back tooth broke and exposed this mercury filling. I had headaches at that time that even my Dristan would not take away. I'll never forget...and it hurts me and many others when people say these fillings are safe. They were not safe for me and many other persons that have had similar experiences. I'd be glad to discuss this with anyone. It's a subject that I know very well. I had extremely severe pains for more than 20 years...and now I'm quite healthy since my mercury fillings were replaced with durable white fillings over 10 years ago. Cookie531 09-19-2004, 09:00 AM As I've stated before, there are a small amount of patients who may have sensitivities to amalgam compounds and for these patients the removal of these fillings may have beneficial effects. However, for the vast majority of patients there is no problem. There are holistic dentists out there who will blame everything from arthritis to cancer on mercury amalgams with no evidence to back up these claims. The removal of amalgams is expensive and then the refilling of these teeth with composite resins is almost triple the cost of "silver" amalgams. It's how they make their money. I can honestly say I have never in my life had a migraine headache. I do however have a thyroid condition. Should I place the blame on my mercury amalgams? I don't think so. The amount of mercury released in the mouth when chewing is approx. 1-3 micrograms. If you breathe, drink water and eat the exposure to mercury is 5-7 micrograms. This whole issue has been an ongoing debate for years. I don't believe there is a right or wrong answer to this. If the patient's problems are alleviated by the removal of their fillings then that's the right answer. But, in my opinion I stand by the old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". rhody 09-21-2004, 08:50 PM Hi Cookie, :wave: Thanks for your response. If you research it a little more you should find that the amount of mercury released when chewing is much more, depending on the type of amalgam and the quantity of amalgams that a person has in their mouth. Also the amount of mercury that is in the air, water, and our food varies greatly also. Some studies have shown that the primary source of this mercury poisoning (and other metals too) is from our dental fillings. Autopsies are done and can show a correlation of these metals in the brain, and the amount of metal fillings a person has in their mouth. I read about these things for hours. I've also read that for some people with a mouthful of mercury fillings, that the sewage they create would violate EPA guidelines. Rivers of this polluted mercury-filled sewage creates higher mercury levels in our waters than what would be without these poisonous fillings. Did you know that in 1988, the EPA declared that the scrap dental mercury amalgam is a hazardous waste. How is it, that this amalgam is safe inside the mouth, but unsafe outside the mouth? These are just some things to think about.... The more you spend researching this, the more things you will find. It's not just a matter of words anymore, but lots of facts are being uncovered all the time. Also check into the 100 plus different types of white fillings available. Some people claim that some are not biocompatible either. We must be careful here too. That's an entirely different subject that's interesting also. Also thyroid problems have been linked to mercury poisoning. There's lots of information about that. I'd be glad to help you or answer any questions. :) rhody 09-21-2004, 09:16 PM Hi Cookie, I just wanted to share with you one more thing.... About 15 years ago or so, I thought just like you. There was no way that I was going to believe that those small gray-black things in my mouth were causing all my health problems. No way! Well, one day I was in the health food store, searching for answers. My doctors could not help me. So, I researched foods and herbs. At the health food store, I would find my herbs. There, I starting reading a small paper-bound book, about how other people linked their pains to their dental amalgams. I read this with interest, because they described me. The strange chest pains, muscle pains, lower back pains, headaches, urinary problems, and tiredness etc. described me. I felt I could have scratched their names out of this book, and put my name in their place. This person (that is, the author) was describing me. But, no way was I going to believe. But I cataloged this in the back of my mind. My herbs and foods were controlling the illness, so I wasn't getting worse, so I dismissed the idea that my dental fillings could possibly create this misery. Afterall, they were so small. One day when my tooth broke about 5 years later, and exposed one mercury-silver dental amalgam, my pains got worse...much worse. Immediately, I knew I had the link. I remembered that small book. This was something I was searching and searching for, for years. What caused these strange fibromyalgia type of pains? Was it my food or my water? Was it inherited? Now I knew. I was being poisoned. I don't know why, but I never wanted to accept the fate that I was just destined to live with all of this, as one of my first doctors suggested with aspirin. I fought it with everything natural thing I could. And now I knew. I knew I had the link. Such an experience made a believer out of me. I've never doubted again...and continually improve as I get older. singer1 10-01-2004, 03:04 PM WOW! Such a contrast in opinions here! Can anyone back their opinion up by any actual facts? I have a phobis of dentists because it seems that so many of them do not clean their instruments as they should thus making it very hard for me to go and make a visit. Rody, when you speak of headaches, as I am sure you are aware of, headaches have numerous causes such as allergies, stress, back/neck problems, colds etc... just to name a few. How in the world could one determine that their headache was due to the mercury fillings in their mouth? I'm not doubting you, it's just that I see someone who would be concerned enough to really disect the situation would be going to this doctor and that doctor getting this treatment and that medication etc... because all doctors want to make money. We all know that and if they can prescribe a prescription, they will. If they can do a proceedure, they will. If a child or teenager for better example goes into an Orthodontist office and wants braces becaue they want to look better and they don't really need the braces, do you think that Dr. will say "you really don't need braces and I don't recommend them at this time" and send them on their way? Probably not. So, I guess what I'm trying to get at here, is where do the facts come from regarding what you are saying, and Cookie, where do you get your facts? Is this based on all personal experience? I mean if it is that's great. But, if there are actual facts to back up what you are saying, I would really like to know. Someone getting 50% mercury and 2% mercury is quite a big difference and I would like to just know the fact on that if nothing else. Also, if this is really a concern for the general population with these mercury fillings, why isn't the public aware of this? I haven't seen any articles or heard anything on the news pertaining to this. I'm not trying to down play what anyone is saying, I just want to know some facts here. I have 6 of these fillings and 3 of them are very tiny like little dots. If I need to get them out, then I need to consider that, But I don't want to go to a GI doctor with this metallic taste in my mouth thinking it's a digestive thing, I don't want to go to my family Dr. asking him what the taste could be and then go to a dentist only to get 3 completely different opinions. I know that medicine is not a clear cut thing but if I can figure out something so that I don't go through all of these different Dr's visits and treatments, I would have more peace of mind. Another thing that I thought of for the reason that I have that metallic taste is because I don't drink near enough liquids through the day. I mean here it is 2:00 in the afternoon and I have had just enough water to take a vitamin and I have only had a bowl of ceral today. So, I wonder if my lack of liquid intake may have something to do with it. Rody, I read your post and I get scared......Cookie, I read your post and feel better. I'm just not sure what to do here with this metallic taste that has been going on for 4 days now! rhody 10-01-2004, 11:33 PM Hi Singer1, What I write about concerning mercury-silver dental amalgams is based on my own personal experiences and on articles that I have read. This is what I can tell you about my headaches when they were most severe. It's been more than ten years, so I'll give you what I can remember, the best that I can. My back molar broke and exposed this amalgam. I had health problems for years, that some would consider the result of dental amalgam poisoning. I, like many people, did not believe that at first. Anyway, with this tooth partially in place after it broke, I spit out the broken tooth part and some parts of the amalgam pieces. (I broke the tooth on crunchy peanut butter, biting into a hard peanut.) I brushed the partially remaining amalgam and molar tooth so this was as clean as I could get it. Then approximately one day later, I had headaches so severe that my Dristan would not take away the pain. I hadn't headaches that severe for as long as I could remember. At that point, I got real scared and called medical personnel who recommended that I call a research center. Eventually I had all my mercury fillings replaced with less toxic white fillings. My headaches went away, right after I had that one broken tooth repaired. That was the first one that I had the dentist work on, during the first visit. I have more stories about this also, that later I can tell, if anyone is interested, like tingling sensations on my hands also during this period with the exposed amalgam. I can back up many things with research that has been done or is being done...like that fact that this mercury constantly leaks from these amalgams. I have "tons" of facts, that I would share with anyone. I'll write more when I have time. Cookie531 10-02-2004, 08:32 AM There is some information, here from the ADA. [Websites showing personal contact and product information, including links to this information are prohibited. Please re-read the board guidelines. Thanks - Well-come Moderator] rhody 10-02-2004, 01:35 PM The ADA (American Dental Association) finds information to support their pro-mercury fillings position. If you look around, you'll find so much more different "opposite" information, that comes from within the United States and other countries outside. Why do you all suppose that we only hear the "one-side" from the ADA? Can anyone, after reading the volumes and volumes of literature about this subject really believe that these mercury-silver dental amalgams are really safe? Getting back to the main topic, which is the metallic taste.... I seem to recall tasting this metal too, when I put my tongue to the gray-black filling and pressed it down and moved it back and forth. Has anyone else experienced that? Try it and see. Apparently (from what I've read) high copper mercury-silver dental amalgams release up to 50 times as much mercury. I wonder if these ones with high copper amounts, would make the amalgams "taste" more like metals than the low copper mercury-silver dental amalgams? singer1 11-21-2004, 10:44 PM Can't the "metal taste" be due to also having Gingivitis? tammy27530 12-07-2004, 10:38 AM "Silver" fillings are composed of approximately 50 percent mercury. Anyone who has these dental amalgams has mercury in their bodies. It's extremely toxic. I had mine removed about nine years ago. It's was the best thing I could do, to recover. I write about this a lot. If you want more information, please let me know. You've probably heard of me before. Some people say that mercury is safe in our mouth. It's something I don't personally believe. But for you and others, I must let you know that it is one of the most toxic metals imaginable for the human body. I won't think it's "normal" for a person to have a metallic taste in their mouth. I started thinking about it. I didn't remember having that metallic taste, but maybe I did. Does it taste like when a person accidentally bites into aluminum foil? That's the kind of taste I seem to remember. It's been so long, I can't remember exactly.... The symptoms of my sickness were similar to one who has fibromyalgia. Plus I had gum disease and loose teeth. Fortunately, I didn't believe my doctor who said I was getting too old at age 27. I knew it was something else, down deep. I was lucky to have discovered the source of my medical problems. These got worse gradually over the years. When I was in my 20's, it was minor. As I approached and entered my 30's, I had some serious troubles. About ten years later and more, I felt like near death at times (before I had my amalgams removed and some anti-mercury experiments that I conducted on myself shortly after). I survived all of this ordeal over the years. Now with all "white" teeth, I now run nearly 20 miles a week....and feel very healthy. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif hi. i would love to hear about your ordeal with the fillings.i have had so many confussing health problems for almost 2 years with no luck finding the problem.in the last 2 weeks i have noticed a bad metallic taste in my mouth and very bad around my tooth with the silver filling. i have a dentist app monday but i would love to hear from you. thanks rhody 12-07-2004, 10:22 PM Hi, My ordeal with the mercury fillings was decades. In my mid teens and twenties I wondered why I had these gum problems. Then when I was 27 years old I was told by a doctor to not run more than a hundred yards. My illness got progressively worse over the years. Since doctors could not help me, I experimented with natural foods and herbs. Those "health tricks" helped me survive with limited pain. One day, a back molar broke, breaking up and exposing a mercury-silver dental amalgam. A day or so later, my pains intensified. It's a long story, but what I decided to do, after talking to various medical professionals, was to just have these mercury fillings replaced for cosmetic purposes. There's just too many people that just don't understand the effect that these fillings have...and to argue with these people is pointless. A lot of them will never believe unless it either happened to them personally or if they find such things proven according to their standards. Scientists are making progress on understanding this, but the progress is slow. The exact relationship with small amounts of mercury and other dental restoration materials and the health of individuals is difficult to establish. The pains that I had mostly can described as the same as fibromyalgia symptoms. Those symptoms would be headaches, muscle pains near joints, urinary problems, lower back pain, unexplained chest pains and so forth. There's now so much more information about this from people who have suffered, thanks to our computer age. That's a short version of about 30 years that I experienced with this chronic condition. I hope that helps. :) P.S. Tammy, I bumped up a long post where we previously talked about amalgam fillings. There's lots of interesting stories from people.... debberd2 01-14-2005, 06:43 PM My silver/metallic filling was fine for the past 20+ years; I had it replaced last October and have had nothing but problems since then. I NOW have metallic taste when I eat (yes, like chewing foild with braces) that I did not have when I had the metal filling. Go figure! |
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