At school children with these problems bash up other children and get minor suspensions max and if someone without one of these problems do it they would get expelled.


If children with add, adhd etc want to go to a normal school shouldn't they get treated like normal children?

Wow, I take it you are angry and bitter over something. There is very much a no second chance policy in most schools and I see kids (ADD and NT) being suspended & expelled for really weird things all the time. I'm sorry if there is a problem in your school.

ADD is a neurological disorder. It's not something that the kids want to have. Kids can be taught over time how to deal with this disorder but it won't magically disappear. ADD kids are normal, they just do things differently. They learn differently and have a tough time sitting still sometimes. It depends on the severity of the disability. There are kids with ADD and Aspergers that are sent to Juvi just for grasping someone's arm.

If a child is add/adhd and has an IEP, it will probably take an act of God to get that child removed from a public school.

Not up here. Kids can have all the IEP's they want but it never includes anything like hitting or hurting someone else. That is never allowed and should never be allowed.

Hi Pink
I suffered a very nasty sprain shoulder because one of my students grabbed my right arm and twisted it backwards. A manifestation meeting was held and it was decided because of his disability he didn't know any better. The student is back in my classroom :( You're lucky to be in a place that doesn't allow hitting..etc

My son has been in trouble many times for little things that I would think due to his condition WOULD be looked upon a little differently. It wasn't anything as severe as hurting someone though. I do know that if he would have hurt someone he would have been in a lot of trouble. The way I have come to see it is that lots of times they don't show enough leniency towards my son. I would never condone (and neither would the schools) my son hitting pushing or hurting another child in any way.

That's too bad Johna. I'm taking it he has ADD. However, most kids with just ADHD aren't violent. Usually that means there is something else going on. How old is the child?

See?

If they go to a normal school they should be treated like normal kids.

As I've already said usually ADHD kids are treated like normal kids because they ARE normal kids.

What is it that you are upset about? You keep saying things but not saying why.

See?

If they go to a normal school they should be treated like normal kids.

Well, trentyboi, here is the part of the problem. Our federal government has decided on an inclusion policy. This means that kids with all sorts of disabilities attend "normal" school despite the fact that many of them might well better served in schools that specialize in their diabilities.

There are advantages of this inclusion policy, of course. One is that kids with disabilities get to take advantage of the opportunities that only larger schools can offer (sports, etc). Another is that "normal" children learn to be more tolerant of those with differences. Sometimes, unfortunately, it doesn't work that way, however.

The child is 10 and diagnoised as adhd and takes concerta for it. I am wondering if the child might be bipolar.

Johna, that wouldn't surprise me. I have two kids with ADHD and know some others. Very few ADD kids are violent. If they are, there is usually something else going on like Autism or BP. If I were his parents, I'd be getting things checked out a little more.

Jeannie

I don't call children that throw chairs and chase you around trying to hit you with a cricket bat is normal.

I also don't call that child ADD. As stated in above posts, while most kids with ADD can't necessarily sit still in class and may become a class clown they DO NOT throw chairs or hit people.

There has to be something else going on that has not been addressed in this childs life. Perphas BiPolar or something similar. I pray that this child's parents will look into it further and discover the true problem so it can be treated and the child can indeed live a 'normal' life.

Jeannie

Hi Pink
I suffered a very nasty sprain shoulder because one of my students grabbed my right arm and twisted it backwards. A manifestation meeting was held and it was decided because of his disability he didn't know any better. The student is back in my classroom :( You're lucky to be in a place that doesn't allow hitting..etc

Didn't know better? What a moronic decision. That's going to send a message to the child that his "disability" is an excuse to let him do what he pleases to others with no consequence. I'd look for that kid to end up really hurting someone when he's an adult since he'll know he's got an "excuse". There should be zero tolerance for violence of any kind in today's schools IMHO.

Now, in some kids with ADD, the stimulant medication can cause side effects of aggression and mood swings so maybe that should be examined. Side effects can be culmative, meaning even if they don't appear at first they can several years after taking the medication, but I know of docs who think that can't happen although it's a known phenomenon.

Agression and mood swing side effects can mimic bi-polar as well.