ScardyCat
05-19-2003, 07:29 PM
Hi,
In a couple of months (if I can afford) I'm gonna have 13 teeth extracted. 2 of which will be in the front.
I have severe Dental phobia.
I don't even know how I got through the First X-ray visit and the Consultation a week later.
I hadn't stepped near a dental office in over 10 years...even driving past a dental place I'd get extreme anxiety and panic attacks. I'm not even sure how I got myself to go. I should feel proud of myself...but I don't
My dentist does not do IV sedation, only Oral sedation.
Has anyone had this many teeth removed while only being on a "sleeping pill"?
Also I was told I won't be getting that temporary denture like people who have all of their teeth yanked get...so I will be going 2 months without any chewing teeth and with front teeth gone.
My schedual is as followed.
Day 1..Scaling and Extraction
Day 2 Check up
1 Week later, Suture removal
1 Month later
Molds are taken
Cavities filled
4 Teeth Capped
3-4 weeks later?
Get the parcials and permenet caps put in
A year later
More molds, Better dentures made
When I asked the doctor about being able to pick the tooth and gum colors..he said they do that for me.
Should I trust them to do this right?
Also he just put down "plastic base" on the first set...which is fine..I'll only have them a year maybe.
But the second set he wrote down. "metal base"
Is there any option other than "metal"
Haven't they come out with any flexible stuff yet?
Also I do NOT want visible hooks on my teeth that hold it in like my dad has.
I would REALLY like something called "percision Attachment parcials" Caps are required to get them as there is some Tab/O-ring thing that comes off the cap somehow to hook them...but I see I'm getting 4 Caps...so maybe he can do that?
What is the probablity of the dentist not being trained to do this? I hear it's common parcial thing now.
Also how hard is it to eat with both upper and lower parcials? Will I be able to use the front teeth on it..or will it slide and move around on me?
I just want to know what the limits are to having 2 front denture teeth.(two next to each other)
I'm guessing I won't be able to eat an apple maybe?
I don't care much for apples anyways.
But I'm more concerned that it'll be too hard to eat a cheeseburger or Pizza or a sandwich...how usuable are front Parcial denture teeth?
How well do they match in witht he other front teeth?
I am so terrified of all of this, I refuse to even tell my family about it. I'm keeping it to myself.
I have too many questions to put in this email.
Hopefully people can help me answer them in future emails to come. I really need to talk to people that have gone through this, I'm going it alone and need people to talk to.
I'm also SCARED to death of the sedation pill.
I'm thinking there is no way in heck that I will sleep through any of it. I'm thinking I'll be wide awake but slightly drowsy. Do people REALLY actually sleep through drills and gum surgery, and multiple novicane injections? This seems impossible to me.
Any insight on any of this would be appreciated.
I'm so scared. :(
In a couple of months (if I can afford) I'm gonna have 13 teeth extracted. 2 of which will be in the front.
I have severe Dental phobia.
I don't even know how I got through the First X-ray visit and the Consultation a week later.
I hadn't stepped near a dental office in over 10 years...even driving past a dental place I'd get extreme anxiety and panic attacks. I'm not even sure how I got myself to go. I should feel proud of myself...but I don't
My dentist does not do IV sedation, only Oral sedation.
Has anyone had this many teeth removed while only being on a "sleeping pill"?
Also I was told I won't be getting that temporary denture like people who have all of their teeth yanked get...so I will be going 2 months without any chewing teeth and with front teeth gone.
My schedual is as followed.
Day 1..Scaling and Extraction
Day 2 Check up
1 Week later, Suture removal
1 Month later
Molds are taken
Cavities filled
4 Teeth Capped
3-4 weeks later?
Get the parcials and permenet caps put in
A year later
More molds, Better dentures made
When I asked the doctor about being able to pick the tooth and gum colors..he said they do that for me.
Should I trust them to do this right?
Also he just put down "plastic base" on the first set...which is fine..I'll only have them a year maybe.
But the second set he wrote down. "metal base"
Is there any option other than "metal"
Haven't they come out with any flexible stuff yet?
Also I do NOT want visible hooks on my teeth that hold it in like my dad has.
I would REALLY like something called "percision Attachment parcials" Caps are required to get them as there is some Tab/O-ring thing that comes off the cap somehow to hook them...but I see I'm getting 4 Caps...so maybe he can do that?
What is the probablity of the dentist not being trained to do this? I hear it's common parcial thing now.
Also how hard is it to eat with both upper and lower parcials? Will I be able to use the front teeth on it..or will it slide and move around on me?
I just want to know what the limits are to having 2 front denture teeth.(two next to each other)
I'm guessing I won't be able to eat an apple maybe?
I don't care much for apples anyways.
But I'm more concerned that it'll be too hard to eat a cheeseburger or Pizza or a sandwich...how usuable are front Parcial denture teeth?
How well do they match in witht he other front teeth?
I am so terrified of all of this, I refuse to even tell my family about it. I'm keeping it to myself.
I have too many questions to put in this email.
Hopefully people can help me answer them in future emails to come. I really need to talk to people that have gone through this, I'm going it alone and need people to talk to.
I'm also SCARED to death of the sedation pill.
I'm thinking there is no way in heck that I will sleep through any of it. I'm thinking I'll be wide awake but slightly drowsy. Do people REALLY actually sleep through drills and gum surgery, and multiple novicane injections? This seems impossible to me.
Any insight on any of this would be appreciated.
I'm so scared. :(
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scaredstiff70
05-20-2003, 09:53 AM
ScardyCat,
:) I think our names say it all!!!
First of all, give yourself a big pat on the back for getting into the dentist office and having that consult/xray appt. You most definitely should be proud of yourself! That is a HUGE step, and knowing what you went through just to pick up the phone, I am so very proud of you!
Second...oral sedation.....
I too, had the exact same doubts as you. I posted a while back about how petrified I was of the pill, and how I thought I would be the only person on this earth it didn't work for. When I read your post, I thought it was mine. :)
That said, try not to worry. I know it's hard, but, honestly, you will come out of your extraction appt. wondering why you were so nervous. Really! The sedation pill (I had triazolam), is awesome! I had my upper teeth extracted on April 22nd, and the lowers done April 29th, both times using sedation. It is the greatest thing since sliced bread :)
I went into the office, sat in a comfy chair, they hooked me up to monitors, and gave me the pills to take. Within 30 minutes, I was out. I "woke up" at home feeling fantastic. Now, the first time wasn't without some problems...all that happened was that I had gone over 14 hours without food in my tummy and when they gave me the juice to wake me so I could use the restroom, I vomited it all back up...which is why I had the lowers done a week later...my body had had enough that day and I couldn't keep anything down, therefor, they couldn't re-sedate me to get the bottoms done the same day. No big deal...the next appt. I knew what to expect, and I was so much more at ease. I was out of there in less than 3 hours for my lowers. Again, I woke up at home, feeling like the happiest person alive.
With the pill, you will sleep for quite a while after surgery, but, it's the best sleep I've had since I gave birth to my kids! You will be responsive in the chair, although you won't remember hearing anything. If they 'wake' you prior to leaving, you MAY remember some of that, but not much at all.
The second time I had it done, I do remember a needle, but, I can't remember if it hurt...isn't that odd? So, I guess it didn't. I don't think I was completely out before they started, but was out enough that there was no pain. It was wonderful!
If you're worried about it, make sure you tell them you want to be completely out before they do anything to you. If they do sedation, then odds are they know how phobic some can be, and understand how important it is for the patient to be comfortable. Talk to them about your fears...you will feel better after you do.
I would do it again in a heartbeat, and not think twice about it. It truly is a wonderful experience! And, I went about 12 years without seeing a dentist due to my phobia...if I can do it, so can you. I was so full of anxiety like you. I would sweat bullets just thinking about calling the dentist. So, you are not alone. Not by a long shot!
Another thing is, with the sedation, you have to have someone with you after the surgery. Someone that can help you walk and get you from the car to bed without any problems. You need to be watched for a while, and not left alone...even when you finally wake up at home, you should have someone help you if you need to use the restroom, because you will still be under the effects of the sedative and you could lose your balance and fall. So, please have someone with you that you can trust, and someone that's supportive of you. On the way to your appt. you will need someone with whom you can talk to and be "afraid" with...believe me, it makes a world of difference.
My husband was the best! He held my hand the whole way there, and didn't let go of me until they called me back. I couldn't have done it without him by my side.
You will be fine, and you will come back to this board to tell us so! :)
Please, if you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.
All my best to you....
scaredstiff70 :D
:) I think our names say it all!!!
First of all, give yourself a big pat on the back for getting into the dentist office and having that consult/xray appt. You most definitely should be proud of yourself! That is a HUGE step, and knowing what you went through just to pick up the phone, I am so very proud of you!
Second...oral sedation.....
I too, had the exact same doubts as you. I posted a while back about how petrified I was of the pill, and how I thought I would be the only person on this earth it didn't work for. When I read your post, I thought it was mine. :)
That said, try not to worry. I know it's hard, but, honestly, you will come out of your extraction appt. wondering why you were so nervous. Really! The sedation pill (I had triazolam), is awesome! I had my upper teeth extracted on April 22nd, and the lowers done April 29th, both times using sedation. It is the greatest thing since sliced bread :)
I went into the office, sat in a comfy chair, they hooked me up to monitors, and gave me the pills to take. Within 30 minutes, I was out. I "woke up" at home feeling fantastic. Now, the first time wasn't without some problems...all that happened was that I had gone over 14 hours without food in my tummy and when they gave me the juice to wake me so I could use the restroom, I vomited it all back up...which is why I had the lowers done a week later...my body had had enough that day and I couldn't keep anything down, therefor, they couldn't re-sedate me to get the bottoms done the same day. No big deal...the next appt. I knew what to expect, and I was so much more at ease. I was out of there in less than 3 hours for my lowers. Again, I woke up at home, feeling like the happiest person alive.
With the pill, you will sleep for quite a while after surgery, but, it's the best sleep I've had since I gave birth to my kids! You will be responsive in the chair, although you won't remember hearing anything. If they 'wake' you prior to leaving, you MAY remember some of that, but not much at all.
The second time I had it done, I do remember a needle, but, I can't remember if it hurt...isn't that odd? So, I guess it didn't. I don't think I was completely out before they started, but was out enough that there was no pain. It was wonderful!
If you're worried about it, make sure you tell them you want to be completely out before they do anything to you. If they do sedation, then odds are they know how phobic some can be, and understand how important it is for the patient to be comfortable. Talk to them about your fears...you will feel better after you do.
I would do it again in a heartbeat, and not think twice about it. It truly is a wonderful experience! And, I went about 12 years without seeing a dentist due to my phobia...if I can do it, so can you. I was so full of anxiety like you. I would sweat bullets just thinking about calling the dentist. So, you are not alone. Not by a long shot!
Another thing is, with the sedation, you have to have someone with you after the surgery. Someone that can help you walk and get you from the car to bed without any problems. You need to be watched for a while, and not left alone...even when you finally wake up at home, you should have someone help you if you need to use the restroom, because you will still be under the effects of the sedative and you could lose your balance and fall. So, please have someone with you that you can trust, and someone that's supportive of you. On the way to your appt. you will need someone with whom you can talk to and be "afraid" with...believe me, it makes a world of difference.
My husband was the best! He held my hand the whole way there, and didn't let go of me until they called me back. I couldn't have done it without him by my side.
You will be fine, and you will come back to this board to tell us so! :)
Please, if you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.
All my best to you....
scaredstiff70 :D
ScardyCat
05-20-2003, 01:48 PM
I'm so very glad to find you,
I'm a total mess here. :(
The things you said made me feel a lot better.
I think the drug I'm getting might be the same..he said Tri-something or rather.
I was told I'd take on pill before at home, 1 hour before I come in. I was told I would get another one when I get there (maybe he said that because I told him the Halicion I thought I was getting sounded too weak) Maybe if I look out of it, he won't give me a second one..I dunno. He said when I get there I will get a differant pill to stop me from making saliva also.
I really don't want them to wake me up half way through like they did to you. I don't usually pee that much.
When you say they hooked you up to monitors...how was it that you were hooked up? Was it stuff on your wrist?
None of it was Needle type stuff, right?
Did they give you nitrous at all.
I was told he might.
Maybe only if I seem too awake?
Do you remember the thing to keep your mouth open?
I was told it was some rubber thing called a "block"
Do you remember what that is like?
Also did you get a parcial or a full denture plate?
I was told I get no temp denture thing over the stitches like so many other people seem to get.
Seems like I'm the only one going it without something over top.
I'm also worried that the gums will stick together when I close my mouth, and that the suction will loosen the clots out. What do stitches feel like in your mouth anyways? Does your face swell up?
Are the gums hellish looking? I saw one implant picture, and their gums were black from the blood underneath. :(
I will not be able to eat anything solid for 2 months, as all my chewing teeth and 2 front teeth are being yanked.Did you eat the first 48 hours?
What kinda things did you eat?...I think i'm gonna starve to death. I can't imagine going 2 months without solid food.
All of this is hell, I wish I would of knowen about sedation denistry 10 years ago.
I had tramatic experiances with military dentists growing as a kid. They were mean and insultive
and caused me a great deal of pain, not just once but several times. Once they jabbed me with that needle in the same spot OVER and OVER again..I counted 6 times.
That was just one of the times I went.
I once told them, "I'm REALLY scared of the needle, can't you do something besides the needle?"
Then I looked over at the tank of nitrious..that I knew for FACT they had used it on other people I knew.
And they told me, "yeah we will just do all the work with nothing at all" And because they had put me through so much pain even while on the novicaine...I knew I had to have that needle over not having anything at all. Then they Injected me several times, and did it really fast so that it hurt.
I have since learned that in most places (minus the front and bottom lowers) that if they inject slow, you won't feel that sharp pain that feels like they trying to reach your brain with that needle. :(
I'm looking forward to being sedated, but worried I'm gonna just be drowsy, but wide awake.
Do you remember your ride home and getting into bed?
I have SO many questions, it helps me gear myself up
to go. I don't like suprizes. It'll be a couple months before I can go.Need to come up with some money first.
I hope one day I will be able to answer questions and help other people out. But for now...lots of anxiety.
:(
I'm a total mess here. :(
The things you said made me feel a lot better.
I think the drug I'm getting might be the same..he said Tri-something or rather.
I was told I'd take on pill before at home, 1 hour before I come in. I was told I would get another one when I get there (maybe he said that because I told him the Halicion I thought I was getting sounded too weak) Maybe if I look out of it, he won't give me a second one..I dunno. He said when I get there I will get a differant pill to stop me from making saliva also.
I really don't want them to wake me up half way through like they did to you. I don't usually pee that much.
When you say they hooked you up to monitors...how was it that you were hooked up? Was it stuff on your wrist?
None of it was Needle type stuff, right?
Did they give you nitrous at all.
I was told he might.
Maybe only if I seem too awake?
Do you remember the thing to keep your mouth open?
I was told it was some rubber thing called a "block"
Do you remember what that is like?
Also did you get a parcial or a full denture plate?
I was told I get no temp denture thing over the stitches like so many other people seem to get.
Seems like I'm the only one going it without something over top.
I'm also worried that the gums will stick together when I close my mouth, and that the suction will loosen the clots out. What do stitches feel like in your mouth anyways? Does your face swell up?
Are the gums hellish looking? I saw one implant picture, and their gums were black from the blood underneath. :(
I will not be able to eat anything solid for 2 months, as all my chewing teeth and 2 front teeth are being yanked.Did you eat the first 48 hours?
What kinda things did you eat?...I think i'm gonna starve to death. I can't imagine going 2 months without solid food.
All of this is hell, I wish I would of knowen about sedation denistry 10 years ago.
I had tramatic experiances with military dentists growing as a kid. They were mean and insultive
and caused me a great deal of pain, not just once but several times. Once they jabbed me with that needle in the same spot OVER and OVER again..I counted 6 times.
That was just one of the times I went.
I once told them, "I'm REALLY scared of the needle, can't you do something besides the needle?"
Then I looked over at the tank of nitrious..that I knew for FACT they had used it on other people I knew.
And they told me, "yeah we will just do all the work with nothing at all" And because they had put me through so much pain even while on the novicaine...I knew I had to have that needle over not having anything at all. Then they Injected me several times, and did it really fast so that it hurt.
I have since learned that in most places (minus the front and bottom lowers) that if they inject slow, you won't feel that sharp pain that feels like they trying to reach your brain with that needle. :(
I'm looking forward to being sedated, but worried I'm gonna just be drowsy, but wide awake.
Do you remember your ride home and getting into bed?
I have SO many questions, it helps me gear myself up
to go. I don't like suprizes. It'll be a couple months before I can go.Need to come up with some money first.
I hope one day I will be able to answer questions and help other people out. But for now...lots of anxiety.
:(
scaredstiff70
05-20-2003, 06:11 PM
Hello again fellow phobic, :)
I took the pill when I got there, but have heard that alot of people do take it while they are still at home. I guess my dentist just wanted to make sure I was safe and sound in the chair before I was sedated.
Yes, I was hooked up to a pulse-oximeter, and a blood pressure machine. Nothing more. No needles. I did have nitrous the first time which helped me out a great deal. I was shaking like a leaf the first time I did it, so they didn't even have to ask me. They were all so nice, and even took my shoes off for me so I could be as comfortable as possible. The nitrous wasn't given the second time...I was much more relaxed and actually went in there with a smile on my face if you can believe that.
I don't remember how they kept my mouth open, but was told they used a dental dam and really lubed my lips with vaseline so as not to chap or crack holding my mouth open for so long. However they did it, I didn't have any sores on my lips or corners of my mouth, nor did my mouth hurt at all from being open for hours.
I got a full denture, which I have heard is much harder to get used to than a partial. Can't compare the two though, cuz I went from all natural teeth to dentures in 2 weeks. You do have to be aware of the clots in your mouth though, and be very careful not to suck on anything because you could dislodge the clot and get dry socket, which I have heard is extremely painful. It tends to happen anywhere between 3-5 days after surgery and the pain is like nothing else, from what I've read. So, be careful until you know for sure you are past that point of being able to dislodge the clots. I don't think you have to worry about your gums sticking together though. They will probably be far enough apart that you won't even be able to touch them together. That's how mine are now when I don't have my teeth in. I couldn't touch my top and bottom gums together if I wanted to. :)
The stitches I had were dissolvable. They lasted about 7 days, give or take a day or two, and they did look quite ugly. Right before they started to dissolve or fall out on their own, they got really annoying and looked really long. The dentist said it was because my gums were healing/shrinking, and they were getting loose. But, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Just a tad unsightly for a while. I did have my teeth to cover them, but when I took them out at night, it was pretty disturbing the first time I saw them. I don't want to worry you, but if you have a weak stomach, it's not the prettiest sight in the world. My gums weren't as ugly as the stitches. They looked pretty swelled, but I expected that. My face didn't swell at all, except in one spot where they had a hard time with one tooth that broke 3 times while being extracted. That spot is still tender today, but it has gotten alot better. The swelling was about the size of a golf ball and gradually went down over the course of about 5 days. My face is no longer swelled and my gums are healing nicely. The one spot still looks worse than the others, but it has made great progress over the last 3 weeks. If you don't have any "traumatic" extractions, your gums should just look swelled and red for a while, and they will be tender. A salt-water rinse does wonders for the tenderness and any irritation, plus it cleans your mouth of old blood that may be hanging around in there. I used the rinse 3 times a day for the first week. It felt really good on my gums.
The first 48 hours I was told to eat only ice cream and cold things. I too, thought I would starve. It was nice to eat ice cream without problems again, but, I so wanted to eat real food. I had my teeth, so by the end of the first week, I was eating solid food cut up really small. With you not having many teeth, you may have to experiement a bit to see what you can handle after the first 48 hours. Cottage cheese was another thing I lived on. Along with pudding and jello. I got real sick of it all, real quick. I also ate alot of mashed potatoes. Man did that taste good!!! Just take it slow the first couple of days, and indulge with the ice cream and pudding, ect. Then slowly add different things as you are comfortable with them. You will adjust, it just takes time.
I am SOOOO sorry you had such horrific experiences with your dentists. There's no excuse for any of it, and no reason for it either. I would be willing to bet that the dentist you have now is much more compassionate than your previous ones, and that is a BIG factor in your comfort level as well.
I don't remember my ride home at all. My husband said I talked to him, but was pretty out of it. Mostly yes and no answers. I don't remember him carrying me to bed either, but he didn't want me to walk, so he picked me up and carried me like a true gentleman. I don't remember anything but vomiting that one time, and that was because (or so I'm told) it was a traumatic thing (it usually is for anyone--no one likes being sick). Other than that, I remember absolutely nothing. You most likely won't either. I swear by sedation! It was my best friend those two days of surgery. My son is actually the next in our family to have it done...he's getting two root canals done and is just as scared as I am of dentists...for good reason. The last dentist he went to screamed at him for having cavities and actually told him getting a tooth pulled or a shot didn't hurt, it was ALL in his head. It took every bit of strength I had in me not to knock this dentist out of his chair and deck him square in the mouth. Needless to say, we haven't been back there! What a creep! :(
I know how scared you are....but please, please try not to worry so much. You WILL be fine! You will be amazed how easy was. And no, you won't just lay there in la-la land, knowing what they are doing....you won't feel a thing! It's amazing how it works. And if you're like me, the next time you go back there, you will find yourself happy to be there, and really surprised that you are so willing to walk through those doors again. Sedation gave me the ability to look at the dentist in a whole new light. I am no longer afraid. Just one visit did that for me. After 10+ years....I'd say that's a tall order to fill, but I wasn't disappointed! Far from it.
You will do great! I just know it!
All my best....
scaredstiff70 :D
I took the pill when I got there, but have heard that alot of people do take it while they are still at home. I guess my dentist just wanted to make sure I was safe and sound in the chair before I was sedated.
Yes, I was hooked up to a pulse-oximeter, and a blood pressure machine. Nothing more. No needles. I did have nitrous the first time which helped me out a great deal. I was shaking like a leaf the first time I did it, so they didn't even have to ask me. They were all so nice, and even took my shoes off for me so I could be as comfortable as possible. The nitrous wasn't given the second time...I was much more relaxed and actually went in there with a smile on my face if you can believe that.
I don't remember how they kept my mouth open, but was told they used a dental dam and really lubed my lips with vaseline so as not to chap or crack holding my mouth open for so long. However they did it, I didn't have any sores on my lips or corners of my mouth, nor did my mouth hurt at all from being open for hours.
I got a full denture, which I have heard is much harder to get used to than a partial. Can't compare the two though, cuz I went from all natural teeth to dentures in 2 weeks. You do have to be aware of the clots in your mouth though, and be very careful not to suck on anything because you could dislodge the clot and get dry socket, which I have heard is extremely painful. It tends to happen anywhere between 3-5 days after surgery and the pain is like nothing else, from what I've read. So, be careful until you know for sure you are past that point of being able to dislodge the clots. I don't think you have to worry about your gums sticking together though. They will probably be far enough apart that you won't even be able to touch them together. That's how mine are now when I don't have my teeth in. I couldn't touch my top and bottom gums together if I wanted to. :)
The stitches I had were dissolvable. They lasted about 7 days, give or take a day or two, and they did look quite ugly. Right before they started to dissolve or fall out on their own, they got really annoying and looked really long. The dentist said it was because my gums were healing/shrinking, and they were getting loose. But, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Just a tad unsightly for a while. I did have my teeth to cover them, but when I took them out at night, it was pretty disturbing the first time I saw them. I don't want to worry you, but if you have a weak stomach, it's not the prettiest sight in the world. My gums weren't as ugly as the stitches. They looked pretty swelled, but I expected that. My face didn't swell at all, except in one spot where they had a hard time with one tooth that broke 3 times while being extracted. That spot is still tender today, but it has gotten alot better. The swelling was about the size of a golf ball and gradually went down over the course of about 5 days. My face is no longer swelled and my gums are healing nicely. The one spot still looks worse than the others, but it has made great progress over the last 3 weeks. If you don't have any "traumatic" extractions, your gums should just look swelled and red for a while, and they will be tender. A salt-water rinse does wonders for the tenderness and any irritation, plus it cleans your mouth of old blood that may be hanging around in there. I used the rinse 3 times a day for the first week. It felt really good on my gums.
The first 48 hours I was told to eat only ice cream and cold things. I too, thought I would starve. It was nice to eat ice cream without problems again, but, I so wanted to eat real food. I had my teeth, so by the end of the first week, I was eating solid food cut up really small. With you not having many teeth, you may have to experiement a bit to see what you can handle after the first 48 hours. Cottage cheese was another thing I lived on. Along with pudding and jello. I got real sick of it all, real quick. I also ate alot of mashed potatoes. Man did that taste good!!! Just take it slow the first couple of days, and indulge with the ice cream and pudding, ect. Then slowly add different things as you are comfortable with them. You will adjust, it just takes time.
I am SOOOO sorry you had such horrific experiences with your dentists. There's no excuse for any of it, and no reason for it either. I would be willing to bet that the dentist you have now is much more compassionate than your previous ones, and that is a BIG factor in your comfort level as well.
I don't remember my ride home at all. My husband said I talked to him, but was pretty out of it. Mostly yes and no answers. I don't remember him carrying me to bed either, but he didn't want me to walk, so he picked me up and carried me like a true gentleman. I don't remember anything but vomiting that one time, and that was because (or so I'm told) it was a traumatic thing (it usually is for anyone--no one likes being sick). Other than that, I remember absolutely nothing. You most likely won't either. I swear by sedation! It was my best friend those two days of surgery. My son is actually the next in our family to have it done...he's getting two root canals done and is just as scared as I am of dentists...for good reason. The last dentist he went to screamed at him for having cavities and actually told him getting a tooth pulled or a shot didn't hurt, it was ALL in his head. It took every bit of strength I had in me not to knock this dentist out of his chair and deck him square in the mouth. Needless to say, we haven't been back there! What a creep! :(
I know how scared you are....but please, please try not to worry so much. You WILL be fine! You will be amazed how easy was. And no, you won't just lay there in la-la land, knowing what they are doing....you won't feel a thing! It's amazing how it works. And if you're like me, the next time you go back there, you will find yourself happy to be there, and really surprised that you are so willing to walk through those doors again. Sedation gave me the ability to look at the dentist in a whole new light. I am no longer afraid. Just one visit did that for me. After 10+ years....I'd say that's a tall order to fill, but I wasn't disappointed! Far from it.
You will do great! I just know it!
All my best....
scaredstiff70 :D
ScardyCat
05-21-2003, 03:04 PM
Hi scaredstiff,
Let me start off by saying, having you to talk to is a God send. I guess I'm gonna be on this board for quite awhile. It'll prolly be a couple months before I have my surgery. So hopefully you'll be able to put up with me. I'm a question machine. :)
My doctor said he's gonna use the "block" to keep my mouth open...he did say "block" was a bad word for it though. I'm kinda hoping it's not the rubber dam frame thing like you had. That thing scares me...I did ask him if I'd need a rubber dam for any of my work and he said he might need to on the caps he's gonna do.
I told him I hope not because the worst traumatic expericance was with the rubber damn.
When they fill a cavity or what not, they cut a hole in the rubber part for your teeth to stick through, that they are gonna work on. I guess it's supposed to be nicer for some people...that way, bits of stuff don't go in the back of your mouth or get swallowed. I think it requires little or no suction and irrigation on their part as well.
Anyhow, for some reason they decided to put some metal clamp on the teeth. It's metal and round and fits over the tooth and has some way of tightening that thing over the tooth like a vice.
Problem is...I have a really small jaw (small head too)
And my teeth were always super close together. So close that I couldn't use standard dental floss..it was just too thick to get in there. So they had to REALLY jam that clamp in there. To tell you the truth I have NO idea how they got it in there. Needless to say it hurt like all heck. The pressure was intense..felt like the teeth around it were gonna shatter into pieces. To make it worse they had it down into my gum and as they kept tightening this thing it dug deeper and deeper into my gum. I could feel it too..they did not given me any injections for this part. I also felt the pain of the gums for a week after. Anyhow, I'm NOT sure if they always have to use that clamp thing with the rubber dam or not, I've had the clamp every time though. There is nothing in the world I hate more than that clamp..I rather endure a mouth full of shots than that thing. :(
I think all of my extractions..with the exception of one (maybe) are gonna be traumtic. Most of the teeth are broken off at gum level. I have a severe phobia and had an Ex-husband who refused to take me to the dentist...even though I'd beg in pain. He just said it's too expensive. He said "I'll pull it out for you,
but your not going to the dentist because it costs too much.Now I've learned that The doc could of perscribed me some pain killers for that at the very least.My Ex is such a jerk, I was afraid to get away from him. (Long story)
I'm trying to get back on the road to feeling better about myself.I need to get the dental work done. It's unfortunate It's gonna cause me lots and lots of pain.
I just want to smile and laugh again so i can be social like I used to be.I think If I can conqure this, I will be able to conqure most anything as far as personal hurdles go. It's just a very LONG hurdle.
I was told it'd be a year before I get the good dentures. (non plastic) Then who knows how long it'll take to get used to those...sigh.
I'm guessing my sedation medicine is the same as yours...how many medications can possibly start with "tri-something" for sedation denistry? I was told I might get a second pill. Did you just have one or two?Maybe two is too many? I think I weigh around 150? (too afraid to look at the scale) My doctor told me that they can wake me up by giving me some juice. Sounds like it didn't wake you up much. :)
Did they give you drugs for the pain? I was told i'd get something to "manage" the pain. I'm really worried about that. Motrin will "manage" the pain and I have plenty of that now. I'm hoping for codine or something like it. How well did pain killers work on you?
I'm a bit afraid of drinking milk products the first few days. I'm kinda afraid it'll cause an infection from the bacteria that can grow in milk. I'm not going to have anything covering the stitches at all. I don't think I'm gonna look in my mouth at all afterwards, not till the stitches are out anyways.
Speaking of stitches, I'm not getting the ones that dissolve. My dentist said he doesn't like using those.
He didn't say why.
I was also wondering...how long do you have holes in your gums with clots in them? I was thinking that if they are sewing the gums together, that they'd grow together with the stitches and there wouldn't be a hole.I've read 1-3 months. I can't imagine not having something over the gums to keep the clots in for THAT long. I don't understand why they just wouldn't leave the stitches in till the hole sealed shut. Isn't that the point of stitches? I'm very confused. :)
Anyways, thank you for talking to me and answering my questions. I hope I'm not bugging you too much. :)
Let me start off by saying, having you to talk to is a God send. I guess I'm gonna be on this board for quite awhile. It'll prolly be a couple months before I have my surgery. So hopefully you'll be able to put up with me. I'm a question machine. :)
My doctor said he's gonna use the "block" to keep my mouth open...he did say "block" was a bad word for it though. I'm kinda hoping it's not the rubber dam frame thing like you had. That thing scares me...I did ask him if I'd need a rubber dam for any of my work and he said he might need to on the caps he's gonna do.
I told him I hope not because the worst traumatic expericance was with the rubber damn.
When they fill a cavity or what not, they cut a hole in the rubber part for your teeth to stick through, that they are gonna work on. I guess it's supposed to be nicer for some people...that way, bits of stuff don't go in the back of your mouth or get swallowed. I think it requires little or no suction and irrigation on their part as well.
Anyhow, for some reason they decided to put some metal clamp on the teeth. It's metal and round and fits over the tooth and has some way of tightening that thing over the tooth like a vice.
Problem is...I have a really small jaw (small head too)
And my teeth were always super close together. So close that I couldn't use standard dental floss..it was just too thick to get in there. So they had to REALLY jam that clamp in there. To tell you the truth I have NO idea how they got it in there. Needless to say it hurt like all heck. The pressure was intense..felt like the teeth around it were gonna shatter into pieces. To make it worse they had it down into my gum and as they kept tightening this thing it dug deeper and deeper into my gum. I could feel it too..they did not given me any injections for this part. I also felt the pain of the gums for a week after. Anyhow, I'm NOT sure if they always have to use that clamp thing with the rubber dam or not, I've had the clamp every time though. There is nothing in the world I hate more than that clamp..I rather endure a mouth full of shots than that thing. :(
I think all of my extractions..with the exception of one (maybe) are gonna be traumtic. Most of the teeth are broken off at gum level. I have a severe phobia and had an Ex-husband who refused to take me to the dentist...even though I'd beg in pain. He just said it's too expensive. He said "I'll pull it out for you,
but your not going to the dentist because it costs too much.Now I've learned that The doc could of perscribed me some pain killers for that at the very least.My Ex is such a jerk, I was afraid to get away from him. (Long story)
I'm trying to get back on the road to feeling better about myself.I need to get the dental work done. It's unfortunate It's gonna cause me lots and lots of pain.
I just want to smile and laugh again so i can be social like I used to be.I think If I can conqure this, I will be able to conqure most anything as far as personal hurdles go. It's just a very LONG hurdle.
I was told it'd be a year before I get the good dentures. (non plastic) Then who knows how long it'll take to get used to those...sigh.
I'm guessing my sedation medicine is the same as yours...how many medications can possibly start with "tri-something" for sedation denistry? I was told I might get a second pill. Did you just have one or two?Maybe two is too many? I think I weigh around 150? (too afraid to look at the scale) My doctor told me that they can wake me up by giving me some juice. Sounds like it didn't wake you up much. :)
Did they give you drugs for the pain? I was told i'd get something to "manage" the pain. I'm really worried about that. Motrin will "manage" the pain and I have plenty of that now. I'm hoping for codine or something like it. How well did pain killers work on you?
I'm a bit afraid of drinking milk products the first few days. I'm kinda afraid it'll cause an infection from the bacteria that can grow in milk. I'm not going to have anything covering the stitches at all. I don't think I'm gonna look in my mouth at all afterwards, not till the stitches are out anyways.
Speaking of stitches, I'm not getting the ones that dissolve. My dentist said he doesn't like using those.
He didn't say why.
I was also wondering...how long do you have holes in your gums with clots in them? I was thinking that if they are sewing the gums together, that they'd grow together with the stitches and there wouldn't be a hole.I've read 1-3 months. I can't imagine not having something over the gums to keep the clots in for THAT long. I don't understand why they just wouldn't leave the stitches in till the hole sealed shut. Isn't that the point of stitches? I'm very confused. :)
Anyways, thank you for talking to me and answering my questions. I hope I'm not bugging you too much. :)
scaredstiff70
05-21-2003, 04:53 PM
Hi ScardyCat, :)
First of all, you are NOT buggin' me in the least bit. It feels fantastic to be able to help someone the way I was helped prior to my surgery. This board is full of very supportive and compassionate people. So, you are welcome, and never hesitate to ask if you need something answered ok?
When I talked to the dentist about the entire process, and asked about any pain afterwards, I was told that the neat thing about sedation is that it actually helps to lessen the pain afterwards. It was hard for me to understand, but they said that if I opted to be put out under general anesthesia at the hospital, I would have pain afterwards because they use nothing for the "hypnotic" effect. With sedation, there's a hypnotic effect that doesn't allow the pain signals to your brain. Also, they had assistants in there talking to me, telling me how wonderful I was going to look, that there would be little to no pain afterwards, and that I would "wake up" to a whole new me. Whatever was in that drug, and whatever they said really worked! I'm not saying there was no pain, but, I handled it with 2 Tylenol and 2 Advil. By day 3, it was a few Tylenol here and there. Today, I don't need it. I had been given an RX for Tylenol with codeine and some Vicodin, but never used them....they both make me queasy. I can't really remember any pain that I would call extreme. After having so many toothaches and infections, the extractions were a piece of cake. Nothing compared to the pain of a nasty abcess. yuck! :(
Your ex sounds like mine...only everything I needed was too expensive. Right down to undies if you can believe that! Guess that's why I'm not with him anymore. :) Hip-hip hooray!
I am sorry you had to endure his control for so long that it cost you your health. It's just a sad thing to hear that there's others out there who experienced the same control I did. It's awful.
I was given about 5 pills on my first visit. Not sure what they were all for...didn't ask. Now that I look back on it, I should have asked, but, I came out of it ok, and whatever they gave me worked wonders!
The juice reaction was simply because I had gone soooo long without food, combined with my nerves, it was all too much for my tummy. The juice will wake you enough to get you out of the chair, and that's about it. It's not going to allow you to walk on your own or carry on a conversation after you drink it. At least nothing you will remember anyhow. :)
The second time I had the sedation, the juice was substituted with Coke, because of the vomiting the first time. I held that down and actually woke up sooner at home (about 4 hours instead of 7 the first time). Once I woke up, I drank some powerade to replace my electrolytes, and felt really good. They didn't weigh me, but did ask how much I weighed in the office the day of surgery. I know they take that into consideration when they give you the medicine. It will be a good idea to weigh yourself before the surgery. That way, you can tell them exactly how much and they will know how to sedate you.
The stitches do help to close the holes, but, I still have some holes in my gums even now. From what I've read, you really only have to worry about dislodging the clots within the first 48-72 hours. After that, you should be safe. But ask your dentist just to be sure. That's why they say no straws and no smoking...sucking will break the clots loose before they have had a chance to form well and attach themselves. I don't know myself why the stitches didn't close the holes entirely....good question! I never thought to ask about it...just figured it was normal to still have holes. I know another poster who stated he had some as well, and that's why he didn't use adhesive...didn't want to get it stuck in the holes and mess with the healing process. Hmmmm...will ask my dentist about it though.
Please don't think you are any bother. You have some to the right place for help and support! I will be glad to correspond with you for as long as you need me to. It's great to be helpful to someone...even if it's just a little bit. :)
Take care....keep in touch.
scaredstiff70 :D
First of all, you are NOT buggin' me in the least bit. It feels fantastic to be able to help someone the way I was helped prior to my surgery. This board is full of very supportive and compassionate people. So, you are welcome, and never hesitate to ask if you need something answered ok?
When I talked to the dentist about the entire process, and asked about any pain afterwards, I was told that the neat thing about sedation is that it actually helps to lessen the pain afterwards. It was hard for me to understand, but they said that if I opted to be put out under general anesthesia at the hospital, I would have pain afterwards because they use nothing for the "hypnotic" effect. With sedation, there's a hypnotic effect that doesn't allow the pain signals to your brain. Also, they had assistants in there talking to me, telling me how wonderful I was going to look, that there would be little to no pain afterwards, and that I would "wake up" to a whole new me. Whatever was in that drug, and whatever they said really worked! I'm not saying there was no pain, but, I handled it with 2 Tylenol and 2 Advil. By day 3, it was a few Tylenol here and there. Today, I don't need it. I had been given an RX for Tylenol with codeine and some Vicodin, but never used them....they both make me queasy. I can't really remember any pain that I would call extreme. After having so many toothaches and infections, the extractions were a piece of cake. Nothing compared to the pain of a nasty abcess. yuck! :(
Your ex sounds like mine...only everything I needed was too expensive. Right down to undies if you can believe that! Guess that's why I'm not with him anymore. :) Hip-hip hooray!
I am sorry you had to endure his control for so long that it cost you your health. It's just a sad thing to hear that there's others out there who experienced the same control I did. It's awful.
I was given about 5 pills on my first visit. Not sure what they were all for...didn't ask. Now that I look back on it, I should have asked, but, I came out of it ok, and whatever they gave me worked wonders!
The juice reaction was simply because I had gone soooo long without food, combined with my nerves, it was all too much for my tummy. The juice will wake you enough to get you out of the chair, and that's about it. It's not going to allow you to walk on your own or carry on a conversation after you drink it. At least nothing you will remember anyhow. :)
The second time I had the sedation, the juice was substituted with Coke, because of the vomiting the first time. I held that down and actually woke up sooner at home (about 4 hours instead of 7 the first time). Once I woke up, I drank some powerade to replace my electrolytes, and felt really good. They didn't weigh me, but did ask how much I weighed in the office the day of surgery. I know they take that into consideration when they give you the medicine. It will be a good idea to weigh yourself before the surgery. That way, you can tell them exactly how much and they will know how to sedate you.
The stitches do help to close the holes, but, I still have some holes in my gums even now. From what I've read, you really only have to worry about dislodging the clots within the first 48-72 hours. After that, you should be safe. But ask your dentist just to be sure. That's why they say no straws and no smoking...sucking will break the clots loose before they have had a chance to form well and attach themselves. I don't know myself why the stitches didn't close the holes entirely....good question! I never thought to ask about it...just figured it was normal to still have holes. I know another poster who stated he had some as well, and that's why he didn't use adhesive...didn't want to get it stuck in the holes and mess with the healing process. Hmmmm...will ask my dentist about it though.
Please don't think you are any bother. You have some to the right place for help and support! I will be glad to correspond with you for as long as you need me to. It's great to be helpful to someone...even if it's just a little bit. :)
Take care....keep in touch.
scaredstiff70 :D
ScardyCat
05-22-2003, 03:53 PM
Hi, again
Been real busy with a new work task, so now I'm working day and night. My arm and shoulder is really sore too. Actually in a way it's funny...I'm bottling industial grade peroxide to go in teeth lightening kits for dentists :O
Boy does that stuff burn if it spashes on your skin!
It's kinda odd that i'm bottling stuff to make people's teeth look wonderfull and here I am, who can't even smile, bottling it up for them. Would of NEVER thought I'd be doing this.
I do computer work during the day, but I'm doing this task in the evening for a couple weeks before I go to Ohio next weekend..to help them catch up on back orders.
5 pills...wow.
I was told one pill before I come down...one pill afterwards for sedation and one anti-salvia pill.
I think he forgot to add in the antibiotics though.
I need those before my surgery because of my heart problem. I have heard though that others get it too, depends on the doctor I think. So maybe all those other pills might of been antibiotics?
Just a bit worried that you got 5 sedation pills and i'm gonna have to go by on one or two. Logically five sedation pills sounds like too much though. My mind is going wild trying to come up with the worst that could happen..that way I'm perpared for the worst.You prolly know how that goes. :)
It really is so nice to have someone to talk to about this stuff. It helps with the anxiety I think.
Oh have you had any realignment denture repair work down yet to resize it smaller? Does that cost a lot?
Is the soreness people get wearing them, just related to the gums still healing? Or do you have to build up some sort of calluses to keep it from hurting for good?
do the gums turn purple, bright red, black or what after the surgery? Did your face swell up?
Does it hurt to sleep with your head to the side on the pillow? How long did your mouth bleed afterwards?
Told ya, I was a question machine. ;)
Being able to put the whole picture together helps.
Thanks for being so nice to me, I feel so alone and scared with all of this. Your answers help a lot.
Been real busy with a new work task, so now I'm working day and night. My arm and shoulder is really sore too. Actually in a way it's funny...I'm bottling industial grade peroxide to go in teeth lightening kits for dentists :O
Boy does that stuff burn if it spashes on your skin!
It's kinda odd that i'm bottling stuff to make people's teeth look wonderfull and here I am, who can't even smile, bottling it up for them. Would of NEVER thought I'd be doing this.
I do computer work during the day, but I'm doing this task in the evening for a couple weeks before I go to Ohio next weekend..to help them catch up on back orders.
5 pills...wow.
I was told one pill before I come down...one pill afterwards for sedation and one anti-salvia pill.
I think he forgot to add in the antibiotics though.
I need those before my surgery because of my heart problem. I have heard though that others get it too, depends on the doctor I think. So maybe all those other pills might of been antibiotics?
Just a bit worried that you got 5 sedation pills and i'm gonna have to go by on one or two. Logically five sedation pills sounds like too much though. My mind is going wild trying to come up with the worst that could happen..that way I'm perpared for the worst.You prolly know how that goes. :)
It really is so nice to have someone to talk to about this stuff. It helps with the anxiety I think.
Oh have you had any realignment denture repair work down yet to resize it smaller? Does that cost a lot?
Is the soreness people get wearing them, just related to the gums still healing? Or do you have to build up some sort of calluses to keep it from hurting for good?
do the gums turn purple, bright red, black or what after the surgery? Did your face swell up?
Does it hurt to sleep with your head to the side on the pillow? How long did your mouth bleed afterwards?
Told ya, I was a question machine. ;)
Being able to put the whole picture together helps.
Thanks for being so nice to me, I feel so alone and scared with all of this. Your answers help a lot.
Yos
05-22-2003, 07:58 PM
Hi ScardyCat,
First of all, congratulations on getting up the courage to finally do something about your teeth. The step you made is huge. It took me over ten years to finally do something about my teeth too. I stopped going to see dentists when one hit a nerve in my mouth with a needle of novacaine. Half of my mouth was frozen for almost a year. Six months ago I had all but two lower eye teeth extracted and was fitted with a full upper and partial lower immediate denture.
I've read through the conversation that you've been having with scaredstiff. She's doing a great job of answering a lot of your questions especially about the sedation (I had IV sedation). I'm a little concerned about the relationship you're having with your dentist. What you've written suggests that your dentist is leaving you out of the loop on many of the decisions where you should have some input (color matching teeth and gums). He also seems to be telling you what he wants done instead of consulting with you and asking if his treatment is acceptable to you (is going toothless for 2 months ok with you?). Many of your questions are a result of questioning the procedure he is proposing (telling you) to be done. I'm getting the sense that you are not comfortable with the procedure that this dentist would like to do. Are you comfortable with this dentist and do you trust him? It is important to your success that you trust the dentist. It's important that you feel your dentist has your best interests in mind.
I'm not trying to alarm you or scare you away from yet another dentist. What you've managed to do so far is admirable. But if you don't feel comfortable with this dentist or don't think that he has your best interests in mind I would strongly suggest you get a second opinion (that might be a wise thing to do in any case - I did). You should be able to ask the dentist why he is doing what he is doing and get a straight answer. If he is reluctant to answer or has a "don't worry, be happy" attitude then the dentist likely doesn't have your best interests in mind. I'm not a dentist and I don't know the particulars concerning your extractions and being fitted with dentures but I do know that even with dentists and doctors the consumer should be aware of what they are getting into and the costs involved. This may be your last chance to win the big battle with your dental phobia. It would be in your own best interests to choose a dentist of your liking with a treatment plan that is acceptable to you.
Yos
PS Is there a specific reason why your dentist is not prescribing an immediate denture?
First of all, congratulations on getting up the courage to finally do something about your teeth. The step you made is huge. It took me over ten years to finally do something about my teeth too. I stopped going to see dentists when one hit a nerve in my mouth with a needle of novacaine. Half of my mouth was frozen for almost a year. Six months ago I had all but two lower eye teeth extracted and was fitted with a full upper and partial lower immediate denture.
I've read through the conversation that you've been having with scaredstiff. She's doing a great job of answering a lot of your questions especially about the sedation (I had IV sedation). I'm a little concerned about the relationship you're having with your dentist. What you've written suggests that your dentist is leaving you out of the loop on many of the decisions where you should have some input (color matching teeth and gums). He also seems to be telling you what he wants done instead of consulting with you and asking if his treatment is acceptable to you (is going toothless for 2 months ok with you?). Many of your questions are a result of questioning the procedure he is proposing (telling you) to be done. I'm getting the sense that you are not comfortable with the procedure that this dentist would like to do. Are you comfortable with this dentist and do you trust him? It is important to your success that you trust the dentist. It's important that you feel your dentist has your best interests in mind.
I'm not trying to alarm you or scare you away from yet another dentist. What you've managed to do so far is admirable. But if you don't feel comfortable with this dentist or don't think that he has your best interests in mind I would strongly suggest you get a second opinion (that might be a wise thing to do in any case - I did). You should be able to ask the dentist why he is doing what he is doing and get a straight answer. If he is reluctant to answer or has a "don't worry, be happy" attitude then the dentist likely doesn't have your best interests in mind. I'm not a dentist and I don't know the particulars concerning your extractions and being fitted with dentures but I do know that even with dentists and doctors the consumer should be aware of what they are getting into and the costs involved. This may be your last chance to win the big battle with your dental phobia. It would be in your own best interests to choose a dentist of your liking with a treatment plan that is acceptable to you.
Yos
PS Is there a specific reason why your dentist is not prescribing an immediate denture?
scaredstiff70
05-23-2003, 08:18 AM
Hello again! :)
I didn't get a chance to get back here yesterday....my reline took forever because they were short-handed, then I had to pick up my kids from school, get dinner, my son had a baseball game, and I had a softball game....whew! :)
I posted back to MMMarie about my reline if you care to jump into that thread :)
I totally agree with Yos about your comfort level with your dentist. That is SO very important in having a good experience. Like with any relationship, if there is no trust, there's nothing. Sounds cliche', but it's true.
I don't think all 5 pills were sedation pills...but, not sure what the others were for? I'm too small to require 5 sedation pills...weighing only about 108lbs. doesn't seem to be cause for so many. Maybe one was the anti-saliva, but lost on what else they gave me. I truly trust my dentist...she has been in practice for over 20 years...and from the first day, I was so at ease with her. Her demeanor, her personality, her compassion, and her humor are what make that office tick. So, going into my appt., I had complete trust in what they were going to do, I guess that's why I didn't question the pills?
My next relines aren't free, or included in the treatment plan...the office reline will be $116, and the lab reline is $144. But, any adjustments to my denture for sore spots are included in my treatment plan.
Sore spots...
I was told those are from ill-fitting dentures rubbing, sliding, and moving around in ones mouth. There will be sore spots. But, they can be fixed quickly and easily. Your gums are going to go through some major changes, and you will be surprised to see just how much they will shrink even after a few weeks. It wasn't until mine started shrinking that I got sores. They are uncomfortable, so getting into the office for an adjustment is essential. Ill-fitting dentures also promote more bone loss over time, and can contribute to infections as well. So, if you have to go every other day for a sore spot, do it! You will be glad you did--so will your mouth! :)
My gums were bright red and tender. I didn't sleep on my side or stomach for about a week. My dentures would not allow me to be comfortable if I tried. I put about 3 pillows under my head and slept that way for a while. When I started taking my teeth out at night, I was able to sleep "normal" again which felt wonderful. I doubt you will be comfortable enough to sleep on your side for at least the first few days. I'm not a back-sleeper, so I know how hard that is to adjust to. :) My mouth bled for the first 24-36 hours, but not alot at all. Most of it was the day of the surgery. Sleeping up-right will help with that and swelling too. I had one small area of swelling on the lower right side of my mouth from a difficult extraction. It's still tender, but, I can sleep on it now without any discomfort. The swelling returned to normal after about 4 days, although my jaw (inside and out) was sore for about a week or so. I guess everyone is different, so you may not swell at all, or you may be on the opposite end...if so, use ice...it really helps.
I know how your mind plays tricks on you and tends to run wild with anticipation and anxiety...fear of the unknown is the worst. But, I DO know exactly what you are feeling right now...believe me! I also know you will be SO very happy when it's done...you will be amazed at how much better you look and feel, and how much more confidence you have. I tried very hard not to be so nervous, but, we are what we are...afraid! Just know that I made it, Yos made it, as did many others before us...you will make it too :)
You will do great...I have a feeling about you. (Maybe because you sound like I did just a few weeks ago) Don't let the anxiety run your life...staying busy is very helpful.
All my best...
scaredstiff70 :D
I didn't get a chance to get back here yesterday....my reline took forever because they were short-handed, then I had to pick up my kids from school, get dinner, my son had a baseball game, and I had a softball game....whew! :)
I posted back to MMMarie about my reline if you care to jump into that thread :)
I totally agree with Yos about your comfort level with your dentist. That is SO very important in having a good experience. Like with any relationship, if there is no trust, there's nothing. Sounds cliche', but it's true.
I don't think all 5 pills were sedation pills...but, not sure what the others were for? I'm too small to require 5 sedation pills...weighing only about 108lbs. doesn't seem to be cause for so many. Maybe one was the anti-saliva, but lost on what else they gave me. I truly trust my dentist...she has been in practice for over 20 years...and from the first day, I was so at ease with her. Her demeanor, her personality, her compassion, and her humor are what make that office tick. So, going into my appt., I had complete trust in what they were going to do, I guess that's why I didn't question the pills?
My next relines aren't free, or included in the treatment plan...the office reline will be $116, and the lab reline is $144. But, any adjustments to my denture for sore spots are included in my treatment plan.
Sore spots...
I was told those are from ill-fitting dentures rubbing, sliding, and moving around in ones mouth. There will be sore spots. But, they can be fixed quickly and easily. Your gums are going to go through some major changes, and you will be surprised to see just how much they will shrink even after a few weeks. It wasn't until mine started shrinking that I got sores. They are uncomfortable, so getting into the office for an adjustment is essential. Ill-fitting dentures also promote more bone loss over time, and can contribute to infections as well. So, if you have to go every other day for a sore spot, do it! You will be glad you did--so will your mouth! :)
My gums were bright red and tender. I didn't sleep on my side or stomach for about a week. My dentures would not allow me to be comfortable if I tried. I put about 3 pillows under my head and slept that way for a while. When I started taking my teeth out at night, I was able to sleep "normal" again which felt wonderful. I doubt you will be comfortable enough to sleep on your side for at least the first few days. I'm not a back-sleeper, so I know how hard that is to adjust to. :) My mouth bled for the first 24-36 hours, but not alot at all. Most of it was the day of the surgery. Sleeping up-right will help with that and swelling too. I had one small area of swelling on the lower right side of my mouth from a difficult extraction. It's still tender, but, I can sleep on it now without any discomfort. The swelling returned to normal after about 4 days, although my jaw (inside and out) was sore for about a week or so. I guess everyone is different, so you may not swell at all, or you may be on the opposite end...if so, use ice...it really helps.
I know how your mind plays tricks on you and tends to run wild with anticipation and anxiety...fear of the unknown is the worst. But, I DO know exactly what you are feeling right now...believe me! I also know you will be SO very happy when it's done...you will be amazed at how much better you look and feel, and how much more confidence you have. I tried very hard not to be so nervous, but, we are what we are...afraid! Just know that I made it, Yos made it, as did many others before us...you will make it too :)
You will do great...I have a feeling about you. (Maybe because you sound like I did just a few weeks ago) Don't let the anxiety run your life...staying busy is very helpful.
All my best...
scaredstiff70 :D
scaredstiff70
05-23-2003, 08:25 AM
Hello again! :)
I didn't get a chance to get back here yesterday....my reline took forever because they were short-handed, then I had to pick up my kids from school, get dinner, my son had a baseball game, and I had a softball game....whew! :)
I posted back to MMMarie about my reline if you care to jump into that thread :)
I totally agree with Yos about your comfort level with your dentist. That is SO very important in having a good experience. Like with any relationship, if there is no trust, there's nothing. Sounds cliche', but it's true.
I don't think all 5 pills were sedation pills...but, not sure what the others were for? I'm too small to require 5 sedation pills...weighing only about 108lbs. doesn't seem to be cause for so many. Maybe one was the anti-saliva, but lost on what else they gave me. I truly trust my dentist...she has been in practice for over 20 years...and from the first day, I was so at ease with her. Her demeanor, her personality, her compassion, and her humor are what make that office tick. So, going into my appt., I had complete trust in what they were going to do, I guess that's why I didn't question the pills?
My next relines aren't free, or included in the treatment plan...the office reline will be $116, and the lab reline is $144. But, any adjustments to my denture for sore spots are included in my treatment plan.
Sore spots...
I was told those are from ill-fitting dentures rubbing, sliding, and moving around in ones mouth. There will be sore spots. But, they can be fixed quickly and easily. Your gums are going to go through some major changes, and you will be surprised to see just how much they will shrink even after a few weeks. It wasn't until mine started shrinking that I got sores. They are uncomfortable, so getting into the office for an adjustment is essential. Ill-fitting dentures also promote more bone loss over time, and can contribute to infections as well. So, if you have to go every other day for a sore spot, do it! You will be glad you did--so will your mouth! :)
My gums were bright red and tender. I didn't sleep on my side or stomach for about a week. My dentures would not allow me to be comfortable if I tried. I put about 3 pillows under my head and slept that way for a while. When I started taking my teeth out at night, I was able to sleep "normal" again which felt wonderful. I doubt you will be comfortable enough to sleep on your side for at least the first few days. I'm not a back-sleeper, so I know how hard that is to adjust to. :) My mouth bled for the first 24-36 hours, but not alot at all. Most of it was the day of the surgery. Sleeping up-right will help with that and swelling too. I had one small area of swelling on the lower right side of my mouth from a difficult extraction. It's still tender, but, I can sleep on it now without any discomfort. The swelling returned to normal after about 4 days, although my jaw (inside and out) was sore for about a week or so. I guess everyone is different, so you may not swell at all, or you may be on the opposite end...if so, use ice...it really helps.
I know how your mind plays tricks on you and tends to run wild with anticipation and anxiety...fear of the unknown is the worst. But, I DO know exactly what you are feeling right now...believe me! I also know you will be SO very happy when it's done...you will be amazed at how much better you look and feel, and how much more confidence you have. I tried very hard not to be so nervous, but, we are what we are...afraid! Just know that I made it, Yos made it, as did many others before us...you will make it too :)
You will do great...I have a feeling about you. (Maybe because you sound like I did just a few weeks ago) Don't let the anxiety run your life...staying busy is very helpful.
All my best...
scaredstiff70 :D
I didn't get a chance to get back here yesterday....my reline took forever because they were short-handed, then I had to pick up my kids from school, get dinner, my son had a baseball game, and I had a softball game....whew! :)
I posted back to MMMarie about my reline if you care to jump into that thread :)
I totally agree with Yos about your comfort level with your dentist. That is SO very important in having a good experience. Like with any relationship, if there is no trust, there's nothing. Sounds cliche', but it's true.
I don't think all 5 pills were sedation pills...but, not sure what the others were for? I'm too small to require 5 sedation pills...weighing only about 108lbs. doesn't seem to be cause for so many. Maybe one was the anti-saliva, but lost on what else they gave me. I truly trust my dentist...she has been in practice for over 20 years...and from the first day, I was so at ease with her. Her demeanor, her personality, her compassion, and her humor are what make that office tick. So, going into my appt., I had complete trust in what they were going to do, I guess that's why I didn't question the pills?
My next relines aren't free, or included in the treatment plan...the office reline will be $116, and the lab reline is $144. But, any adjustments to my denture for sore spots are included in my treatment plan.
Sore spots...
I was told those are from ill-fitting dentures rubbing, sliding, and moving around in ones mouth. There will be sore spots. But, they can be fixed quickly and easily. Your gums are going to go through some major changes, and you will be surprised to see just how much they will shrink even after a few weeks. It wasn't until mine started shrinking that I got sores. They are uncomfortable, so getting into the office for an adjustment is essential. Ill-fitting dentures also promote more bone loss over time, and can contribute to infections as well. So, if you have to go every other day for a sore spot, do it! You will be glad you did--so will your mouth! :)
My gums were bright red and tender. I didn't sleep on my side or stomach for about a week. My dentures would not allow me to be comfortable if I tried. I put about 3 pillows under my head and slept that way for a while. When I started taking my teeth out at night, I was able to sleep "normal" again which felt wonderful. I doubt you will be comfortable enough to sleep on your side for at least the first few days. I'm not a back-sleeper, so I know how hard that is to adjust to. :) My mouth bled for the first 24-36 hours, but not alot at all. Most of it was the day of the surgery. Sleeping up-right will help with that and swelling too. I had one small area of swelling on the lower right side of my mouth from a difficult extraction. It's still tender, but, I can sleep on it now without any discomfort. The swelling returned to normal after about 4 days, although my jaw (inside and out) was sore for about a week or so. I guess everyone is different, so you may not swell at all, or you may be on the opposite end...if so, use ice...it really helps.
I know how your mind plays tricks on you and tends to run wild with anticipation and anxiety...fear of the unknown is the worst. But, I DO know exactly what you are feeling right now...believe me! I also know you will be SO very happy when it's done...you will be amazed at how much better you look and feel, and how much more confidence you have. I tried very hard not to be so nervous, but, we are what we are...afraid! Just know that I made it, Yos made it, as did many others before us...you will make it too :)
You will do great...I have a feeling about you. (Maybe because you sound like I did just a few weeks ago) Don't let the anxiety run your life...staying busy is very helpful.
All my best...
scaredstiff70 :D
violette
05-23-2003, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Scardycat
I'm a bit afraid of drinking milk products the first few days. I'm kinda afraid it'll cause an infection from the bacteria that can grow in milk. :)[/B]
Hi Scardycat,
When my father got all his teeth pulled out, the oral surgeon insisted that he should not eat any dairy products to prevent infection. He was quite unhappy about this because there weren't many things he could 'eat' then. I must say, however, that I never heard anybody else mention any possible problem with dairy products.
Violette
I'm a bit afraid of drinking milk products the first few days. I'm kinda afraid it'll cause an infection from the bacteria that can grow in milk. :)[/B]
Hi Scardycat,
When my father got all his teeth pulled out, the oral surgeon insisted that he should not eat any dairy products to prevent infection. He was quite unhappy about this because there weren't many things he could 'eat' then. I must say, however, that I never heard anybody else mention any possible problem with dairy products.
Violette
scaredstiff70
05-23-2003, 10:48 AM
Just in addition to the above post....
I was strongly encouraged to eat as much ice cream as I could stand after my extractions. I did have immediates placed, so I don't know if I was more "protected" from bacteria getting into the sockets?? They said ice cream, shakes, frozen yogurt, anything that was really cold would be good for my swelling and would feel great too. They were right. Although I did get quite tired of ice cream, NEVER thought I would say that! :)
I guess it just depends on what one particular dentist thinks is best. After having been here for a bit, it's come to my attention just HOW different some dentists prefrences are from others.
scaredstiff70 :D
sorry about the double post above...this site is acting weird today.
[This message has been edited by scaredstiff70 (edited 05-23-2003).]
I was strongly encouraged to eat as much ice cream as I could stand after my extractions. I did have immediates placed, so I don't know if I was more "protected" from bacteria getting into the sockets?? They said ice cream, shakes, frozen yogurt, anything that was really cold would be good for my swelling and would feel great too. They were right. Although I did get quite tired of ice cream, NEVER thought I would say that! :)
I guess it just depends on what one particular dentist thinks is best. After having been here for a bit, it's come to my attention just HOW different some dentists prefrences are from others.
scaredstiff70 :D
sorry about the double post above...this site is acting weird today.
[This message has been edited by scaredstiff70 (edited 05-23-2003).]
violette
05-23-2003, 03:10 PM
To Scaredstiff :
Indeed, my father didn't get immediate dentures. He didn't want any. He just waited until time was right for him to get the implants. That may explain the difference why you were encouraged to eat ice-creams and he wasn't. I don't know.
I'm reading your daily reports on how you're getting on and I do wish you all the very best.
Violette
Indeed, my father didn't get immediate dentures. He didn't want any. He just waited until time was right for him to get the implants. That may explain the difference why you were encouraged to eat ice-creams and he wasn't. I don't know.
I'm reading your daily reports on how you're getting on and I do wish you all the very best.
Violette
scaredstiff70
05-23-2003, 08:17 PM
Thanks for the wishes....
It's been wonderful to be able to come here and get such a fantastic support system in everyone I've posted with. All the posters here are so kind and encouraging, and I wonder what I would have done without all this help!
All my best to you as well....
scaredstiff70 :D
It's been wonderful to be able to come here and get such a fantastic support system in everyone I've posted with. All the posters here are so kind and encouraging, and I wonder what I would have done without all this help!
All my best to you as well....
scaredstiff70 :D
ScardyCat
05-25-2003, 05:04 PM
Hi ScaredStiff, Yos, and whoever else. :)
I'm still really busy at work and I'm trying to pack for my trip to Ohio to help my family. I'm super busy..but that never stops me from being constantly aware of teeth problems...sure you know how that goes.
I understand what Yos means.
I do have so many unanswered questions.
The dentist knows I'm very scared and I told him there was No way I could look at the Xrays ( I'd never get the image out of my mind for the rest of my life) So it might be that he thinks that I just want it fixed and not to know anything? We only discussed the extractions..which is the first step. His whole office is on vacation for a week right now, and then I will be out of state for almost 2 months. But..I've convinced my Fiance to talk to the dentist while I'm gone. I wrote down my questions in a text file. I did ask him up front if I was getting a "immediate denture" thing and he said no..didn't say why. I just figured it was because I had broken off teeth and that they can't even take a mold like that? I will find out exactly why though. He does know that I do NOT want to go 2 months without teeth. (all chewing teeth and 2 front teeth will be gone)he wanted to do the extractions a week and half before my trip and I flat out told him that I could not go on a trip with no teeth for two months.(can't afford it now anyways) Since, he didn't offer a imediate denture thing as an option. I assumed that ment it was not a possibility for me.Maybe there isn't a such thing as an immediate denture for Parcials?? Anyone know?
I do actually like the doctor, and I feel I can trust him. He is a nice guy. He used to be very afraid of Dentists too. He said he found a dentist for him that did eleven things to his teeth in one session and that he felt so helped out and confident again that he studied to be a dentist himself. I kinda wish the IV thing was a possibilty, but they don't do that there.
Even though his practice is a small place that he runs himself. It is in a nice neighborhood. I saw his picture book of before and afters and he does good work. He also does implants (not that I can afford them) Where I live (california) everything is usually done for the best cosmetic effect, my fingers are crossed here that he can get me the Percision attachment parcials (no visible hooks around the teeth)
I did sit down and study the things he has written down. It looks like he went for top of the line stuff.
He went for Composite fillings (white, not metal) on all the cavities. He went for High noble metal on the crowns. From what I understand those are the best metal infused caps as they contain gold. The silver ones can leave a visible black line under the gums and at gum level. Though I'm concerned about the percentage of gold content as it also contains silver metals. I need to check if that means it's still "gold" colored.I am also asking him why he's choosing metal infused crowns(porcaline overlay) over solid porcaline or ceramic ones..which are more cosmetic.It's possible that they arent' as strong..I guess i'll find out. But so far it looks as though he's picked out fairly cosmetic stuff.
Oh, and on the tooth and gum colors, I can see why a dentist might want to do that himself. It is possible that pacients may not have as good of an eye for the matching. I think the dentist would have more experiance than me in that department, So I'm ok with it. I will be sure to let him know that I don't want Day glow white Chiclet-Gum type teeth. :)
I keep seeing those denture ads and I get very scared it'll look like the teeth in the ads. (perfect overly white perfect rectangles) :)
I was also wondering..How long were you in pain after the extractions? How would you rate the pain 1-10?
Can you describe what the pain felt like?
How well did the medicine cover the pain up?
Everyone I know who has had wisdom teeth pulled, at least got some Codine. I'm pretty much immune to Motrin as I've had to live off of it for ten years.
I don't think I could go through that many extractions on something like Motrin or Advil :(
Anyhow I have to go back into work now.
Hope every has a good Memorial Day weekend.
I'm still really busy at work and I'm trying to pack for my trip to Ohio to help my family. I'm super busy..but that never stops me from being constantly aware of teeth problems...sure you know how that goes.
I understand what Yos means.
I do have so many unanswered questions.
The dentist knows I'm very scared and I told him there was No way I could look at the Xrays ( I'd never get the image out of my mind for the rest of my life) So it might be that he thinks that I just want it fixed and not to know anything? We only discussed the extractions..which is the first step. His whole office is on vacation for a week right now, and then I will be out of state for almost 2 months. But..I've convinced my Fiance to talk to the dentist while I'm gone. I wrote down my questions in a text file. I did ask him up front if I was getting a "immediate denture" thing and he said no..didn't say why. I just figured it was because I had broken off teeth and that they can't even take a mold like that? I will find out exactly why though. He does know that I do NOT want to go 2 months without teeth. (all chewing teeth and 2 front teeth will be gone)he wanted to do the extractions a week and half before my trip and I flat out told him that I could not go on a trip with no teeth for two months.(can't afford it now anyways) Since, he didn't offer a imediate denture thing as an option. I assumed that ment it was not a possibility for me.Maybe there isn't a such thing as an immediate denture for Parcials?? Anyone know?
I do actually like the doctor, and I feel I can trust him. He is a nice guy. He used to be very afraid of Dentists too. He said he found a dentist for him that did eleven things to his teeth in one session and that he felt so helped out and confident again that he studied to be a dentist himself. I kinda wish the IV thing was a possibilty, but they don't do that there.
Even though his practice is a small place that he runs himself. It is in a nice neighborhood. I saw his picture book of before and afters and he does good work. He also does implants (not that I can afford them) Where I live (california) everything is usually done for the best cosmetic effect, my fingers are crossed here that he can get me the Percision attachment parcials (no visible hooks around the teeth)
I did sit down and study the things he has written down. It looks like he went for top of the line stuff.
He went for Composite fillings (white, not metal) on all the cavities. He went for High noble metal on the crowns. From what I understand those are the best metal infused caps as they contain gold. The silver ones can leave a visible black line under the gums and at gum level. Though I'm concerned about the percentage of gold content as it also contains silver metals. I need to check if that means it's still "gold" colored.I am also asking him why he's choosing metal infused crowns(porcaline overlay) over solid porcaline or ceramic ones..which are more cosmetic.It's possible that they arent' as strong..I guess i'll find out. But so far it looks as though he's picked out fairly cosmetic stuff.
Oh, and on the tooth and gum colors, I can see why a dentist might want to do that himself. It is possible that pacients may not have as good of an eye for the matching. I think the dentist would have more experiance than me in that department, So I'm ok with it. I will be sure to let him know that I don't want Day glow white Chiclet-Gum type teeth. :)
I keep seeing those denture ads and I get very scared it'll look like the teeth in the ads. (perfect overly white perfect rectangles) :)
I was also wondering..How long were you in pain after the extractions? How would you rate the pain 1-10?
Can you describe what the pain felt like?
How well did the medicine cover the pain up?
Everyone I know who has had wisdom teeth pulled, at least got some Codine. I'm pretty much immune to Motrin as I've had to live off of it for ten years.
I don't think I could go through that many extractions on something like Motrin or Advil :(
Anyhow I have to go back into work now.
Hope every has a good Memorial Day weekend.
scaredstiff70
05-30-2003, 10:21 AM
Hi ScardyCat,
Sorry it took so long to get back here...busy holiday weekend.
How have you been coping lately?
You had mentioned that you were concerned about "too white" teeth....
I picked my tooth color, with the help of the dental assistant. We tried a few shades and both agreed on the one I have now which is whiter than my teeth were, but not that "Hollywood" white you hear so much about. I wouldn't have minded going slightly whiter, but these are fine with me. I told the assistant I get really dark in the summer, so she suggested not going any lighter, or I would have the Chiclet smile. Don't want that! :D
It's good that you trust your dentist enough to pick the color for you, but I would suggest you try it out before you give the ok. Hold it up to your mouth and see how it blends with your skin tone. In the end, although your dentist may be more experienced in this, you are the one who has to live with that color...it's just my opinion, but you should have a say in the shade you will be sporting. :)
Also, my teeth are shaped like "real" teeth, perfect contours and not at all rectangular or boxy looking. I looked on the net for different dental photos and found one that I liked, printed it, took it with me to get my impressions, and they sent it to the lab along with the impressions and tooth color selection. It came out perfect! You could try that route as well. It gives the lab a great idea of what you want for your new teeth. And when all is said and done, if you don't like the teeth, they can be remade, although probably for a nice price, unless the lab made an error.
As for the pain...
I had very little, about a 2-3, so I guess I was lucky. Nothing Advil and Tylenol couldn't conquer. Make sure you tell your dentist you want a prescription for Tylenol 3 or something similar. You should take something when you get home and wake up a bit, that way, there's no onset of pain and no waiting for the drugs to kick in.
What little pain I did have was from one extraction, and it was more an infammed pain than a sharp pain. I had no throbbing or dull pains, so I was happy about that. Even a few days after the surgery, I took Tylenol for the inflammation, and that was all I needed. Everyone's tolerance level is different though, so what's painful to you could be just a small nuisance to someone else, and vice-versa. Just make sure your dentist knows that Motrin isn't working for your anymore...you want something stronger.
Let us know how things are going for you....
All my best
scaredstiff70 :D
Sorry it took so long to get back here...busy holiday weekend.
How have you been coping lately?
You had mentioned that you were concerned about "too white" teeth....
I picked my tooth color, with the help of the dental assistant. We tried a few shades and both agreed on the one I have now which is whiter than my teeth were, but not that "Hollywood" white you hear so much about. I wouldn't have minded going slightly whiter, but these are fine with me. I told the assistant I get really dark in the summer, so she suggested not going any lighter, or I would have the Chiclet smile. Don't want that! :D
It's good that you trust your dentist enough to pick the color for you, but I would suggest you try it out before you give the ok. Hold it up to your mouth and see how it blends with your skin tone. In the end, although your dentist may be more experienced in this, you are the one who has to live with that color...it's just my opinion, but you should have a say in the shade you will be sporting. :)
Also, my teeth are shaped like "real" teeth, perfect contours and not at all rectangular or boxy looking. I looked on the net for different dental photos and found one that I liked, printed it, took it with me to get my impressions, and they sent it to the lab along with the impressions and tooth color selection. It came out perfect! You could try that route as well. It gives the lab a great idea of what you want for your new teeth. And when all is said and done, if you don't like the teeth, they can be remade, although probably for a nice price, unless the lab made an error.
As for the pain...
I had very little, about a 2-3, so I guess I was lucky. Nothing Advil and Tylenol couldn't conquer. Make sure you tell your dentist you want a prescription for Tylenol 3 or something similar. You should take something when you get home and wake up a bit, that way, there's no onset of pain and no waiting for the drugs to kick in.
What little pain I did have was from one extraction, and it was more an infammed pain than a sharp pain. I had no throbbing or dull pains, so I was happy about that. Even a few days after the surgery, I took Tylenol for the inflammation, and that was all I needed. Everyone's tolerance level is different though, so what's painful to you could be just a small nuisance to someone else, and vice-versa. Just make sure your dentist knows that Motrin isn't working for your anymore...you want something stronger.
Let us know how things are going for you....
All my best
scaredstiff70 :D