I've heard that applying vaseline to the eyelids and undereye area before bed can be helpful in preventing wrinkles. Is this true? Has anyone heard such?

Is it worth my picking up some vaseline next time I'm out?

I am in my mid 20s and wrinkles aren't really a problem yet, but I want to prevent them from becoming such.

I use it too! It does really work great. I had cracked heels on my feet and was using all the over the counter products that cost big bucks. I finally just starting using Vasilene and it cleared right up :bouncing: I also use it on my hands and cuticles.

I've never heard about using it for under eyes. I like my eye cream for daytime because it has SPF, which I guess is really important for that area. I might try the Vaseline at night. I already have it around, so it's worth a try!

My 70 year old mother has been using vaseline under and on her eyes my entire life and all I can say is she looks amazing. Here eyes are truly unlined. Now she has great skin so can't say how much is genetics (she has aged very well and looks far younger than her years) but I can say that she never used anything fancy on her eyes/skin---just plain old Vaseline and heavy moisturizers (she's on the dry side). She also has always used lots of vaseline on her lips too by the way...Funny, to this day, she keeps a jar by her bed to stay "moist."

I use Vaseline pretty much everywhere. I love trying new things so I am always buying something but it seems like the Vaseline does the best.
I put it under eyes at night. Actually I put it pretty much everywhere at night. :)

I used this product for years until I found out it is toxic to our skin and is absorbed into our bodies. You are right it works great topically but other than that it is really not a good thing for us to be putting on our skin. I hated giving it up but found more natural alternatives to it.

so Moxie, are you urging against the eye area application? Or just use all together? I am bit confused...

I know my Dr. told me to use it so I doubt she would if it was harmful.
It's been around far too long to be harmful, if that were the case it would have been pulled from the market decades ago.

My ex-mother-in-law used it her whole life and she had the prettiest skin I had ever seen. She was 73 when she died, but her sking looked a lot better than mine and I am 30+ years younger. I guess I should start using it.haha :wave:

so Moxie, are you urging against the eye area application? Or just use all together? I am bit confused...

I'm going against vasoline on your body in any area. There are so many other natural products out there that work just as good because I use them now. I know people say that their family members used it and they looked great but the truth is good sking does not come form topical solutions alone. In fact topical creams contribute a small percentage to good skin. The reason for good skin comes down to diet and nutrition and good oils like omega 3s, vitamin e, oil of evening primrose. Eating salmon and makerel, olive oil. They are the real keys to great skin.

I'm going against vasoline on your body in any area. There are so many other natural products out there that work just as good because I use them now. I know people say that their family members used it and they looked great but the truth is good sking does not come form topical solutions alone. In fact topical creams contribute a small percentage to good skin. The reason for good skin comes down to diet and nutrition and good oils like omega 3s, vitamin e, oil of evening primrose. Eating salmon and makerel, olive oil. They are the real keys to great skin.


Moxie, I strongly agree with you that it is mostly your diet. I take flax oil and notice how nice it makes my skin and hair, never gets such nice results from a topical solution. Although I have never heard before that vaseline is toxic to the body. I always thought it was a natural substance and was good for you. Where did you hear that from I would like to search into it? thanks for the info

Lets not forget Genetics, that plays a bigger role than anything in how our skin ages. Sunscreen is also a must which is topical.

Moxie, I strongly agree with you that it is mostly your diet. I take flax oil and notice how nice it makes my skin and hair, never gets such nice results from a topical solution. Although I have never heard before that vaseline is toxic to the body. I always thought it was a natural substance and was good for you. Where did you hear that from I would like to search into it? thanks for the info

Flaxseed is great I use it also. Vasoline is petroleum jelly. There is a good product called un-petroleum jelly. I worked for an environmental company and we would have to run a clean up if petroleum jelly was dumped in any stream. It's is considered a slack wax and they would test the streams to elicit toxicity. In addition hydrocarbons and are the most toxic compounds found in petroleum products.

I've heard that applying vaseline to the eyelids and undereye area before bed can be helpful in preventing wrinkles. Is this true? Has anyone heard such?

Is it worth my picking up some vaseline next time I'm out?

I am in my mid 20s and wrinkles aren't really a problem yet, but I want to prevent them from becoming such.
Other than being heavy and oily, I don't see any harm in it. All these topical things will help, but nothing beats a good diet/lots of water, and plenty of sun screen. I would put sun screen at the top of the list though. Photoaging from the sun is by far the biggest wrinkle producer of all. A nice tan might look good at first, but the skin pays for it later.
Good diet + sun screen + hydrated skin = Look younger longer.

Flaxseed is great I use it also. Vasoline is petroleum jelly. There is a good product called un-petroleum jelly. I worked for an environmental company and we would have to run a clean up if petroleum jelly was dumped in any stream. It's is considered a slack wax and they would test the streams to elicit toxicity. In addition hydrocarbons and are the most toxic compounds found in petroleum products.


Yes, it is the petroleum in the vaseline that makes it questionable for use. But also, I have heard from several dermatologists not to use anything under the eyes at night as it will tend to make them puffy. Just passing this along.

Hi

New here...but this is an interesting thread.

Sadly, just like there will always be 'anecdotal' evidence of the old guy who died at 90 after smoking 40 capstan full strength every day since he was 15..so it will be that many people know of folks who have used Vaseline regularly throughout their lives.

The point that peopl are often overlooking is that there is overwhelming evidence that all petro-chemically derived products are toxic to humans. Such toxicity may emerge in the form of increased sensitivity, or may trigger allergies, or pehaps even the development of one or other form of cancer.

In the UK (an US) currently the cahnces of you being affected by some form of cancer during your life-time is 1 in 3!!! Some places even worse - in Singaporeit is 1 in 2 :eek: for instance!

The worst aspect of continuing to use proven toxic materials regularly on the skin is that it may not be YOU (the user) who suffers...but your children or childrens children...or even later down the generations. Animal studies have shwon that exposure to toxic substances affected offspring FIVE geneartions down the line. We as humans have only seen about two generations (2x25 = 50 years) since the introduction of tens of 1000's of man-made non-natural chemicals into our lives...stuff we come into contact with daily...often believing it is 'good' for us!

We can only gyuess the long term affects..as most of us will be long-gone...but it is our children's, children's, children who are likely to pick up the bill for us having 'wonderful looking skin' until our 70's...

The answer...use safe natural products that have been used for 1000's of years that we know are definitely beneficial.

Don't be fooled by the fact that you have used something for years and aren't ill yet! Get petro-chemicals OUT of your life now...it may not be yourself you are harming. My wife and I have useful info on toxic chemicals if of any interest?

(Oh and by the way...no offence..but to the poster who thinks that anything their doctor recommends must be safe...I'm afraid you are falling for one of the biggest mis-conceptions wround today...there is now tons of evidence. Most hard pressed GP's now rely on the drug companies to keep them briefed about 'new and efficacious' remedies..think forone moment...what are the drug companies in it for? :confused: ...That's right MONEY!)

I think a lot of the fear concerning certain products originates from the natural product industry itself, as an attempt (which is not working very well) to market their own products. In fact, I read a thread about this on another website - the only information the pro-natural poster could come up with came off a major natural skin products company website. I will continue to use Vaseline, lotions with parabens, and sulfates in my shampoos. Also, concerning future generations - I don't want children, so that's of no concern to me. Future generations on this Earth will have A LOT more to deal with than side effects of Vaseline, with the overpopulation problem getting worse and worse each day...

Oh dear...

LeeLee3 - no offence, but honestly I really think it is that sort of response -dismissing the fact that over the last 50 years...during which we've introduced some 80000+ non-natural chemicals into our lives...we are seeing epidemics of virtually unheard of (or previously non-existent) illnesses - that ranks the human species somewhat below the ostrich in terms of facing reality!

I'm sorry you sound so jaded... I am sorry you sound so skeptical... I am sorry you sound so 'unprepared' to consider (let alone accept) that man has created poisonous materials that are now incoporated into everyday substances that...sadly you are still prepared to keep rubbing on your body!

Anyone who keeps on keeping on (as you say you will) using products with 'parabens' and 'SLS' and the multitude of other unnatural substances that mean that commercial enterprises can increasingly make bigger profits out of cheap, poisonous 'crap', are in effect taking part in the World's biggest long-term medical trial...and the dire results keep coming in every day!

I trust you will be one of the lucky ones...who suffers no sensitivities, no allergies (they can start any time, you know?), no eczema, no dermatitis, no cancer, etc., etc., etc......For, although you don't intend to pass your genes on to anyone...and although manufacturers will maintain there is no evidence that the chemicals they use are really problematic...every year more and more folks are suffering misery, discomfort and debilitating illness due to the effects of chemicals that are KNOWN to cause such problems, which are incorporated into products they also choose to keep using on their bodies...because THEY are actually IGNORANT of the facts (unlike yourself, who just won't accept them)!

Unless you have masses of ££££'s or $$$'s invested in the big cosmetics and body "care" products producers...I can't see how, or why you would want to insist on remaining 'unmoved' by this issue...it makes me absolutely livid (the issue that is, not your attitude ;) )!!

All the best

I totally agree with Moxie..I am blown away that anyone would be ok to use any toxins. The truth is that people think living till 85 is healthy and long but the truth be known that we are capable as humans to live till 120. But yet there are some that think they are happy with 85 or even 95 well not this girl. True I may get killed by a passing car but I will be darned if I let anything put out by the FDA to bring me down such as petroleum jelly..Whether you want kids or not... what about your own longevity? Is life that bad that you don't want to stick around for as long as you can?

Not only did my Dr. tell me it is okay to use but my daughters Doctor at age 5 recomended it for her pierced ears???

Also when both my kids were born they (meaning several Dr.'s) told me to use it in lew of diaper cream as a new born to "protect" their skin during that new born stage when they poop 24/7???

I totally agree with Moxie..I am blown away that anyone would be ok to use any toxins. The truth is that people think living till 85 is healthy and long but the truth be known that we are capable as humans to live till 120. But yet there are some that think they are happy with 85 or even 95 well not this girl. True I may get killed by a passing car but I will be darned if I let anything put out by the FDA to bring me down such as petroleum jelly..Whether you want kids or not... what about your own longevity? Is life that bad that you don't want to stick around for as long as you can?

Are you talking to me? Nooo, I don't want to live to be 120. Who really wants to be old?? It's not about life being good or bad, it's about the quality of life one has when they're very old. Even if you're not happy with 85 or 95, it's not up to YOU to decide how long you'll live. If you use lotion extracted from pure, untouched tree sap, you may only live to see 55. I personally don't want to be so old that I'm unable to do normal functions on my own and am a burden to my loved ones. Most people who are in their 100s look to be in a sorrowful state - they often live to see their children buried. If Vaseline sends me to an early grave (which I'm laughing about that notion), just as well, because by the time I'm 65, the Earth's population will have doubled. Won't be a good life to live amidst the environmental disasters that will take place. Plus, my partner is quite a bit older than I, and I already know that I'll probably outlive him. My only plan is to simply live my life and spend eternity with the one I love. I'm not going to worry about every single ingredient I put in my body just to add on years because that's not really living.


I trust you will be one of the lucky ones...who suffers no sensitivities, no allergies (they can start any time, you know?), no eczema, no dermatitis, no cancer, etc., etc., etc......For, although you don't intend to pass your genes on to anyone...and although manufacturers will maintain there is no evidence that the chemicals they use are really problematic...every year more and more folks are suffering misery, discomfort and debilitating illness due to the effects of chemicals that are KNOWN to cause such problems, which are incorporated into products they also choose to keep using on their bodies...because THEY are actually IGNORANT of the facts (unlike yourself, who just won't accept them)!

Unless you have masses of ££££'s or $$$'s invested in the big cosmetics and body "care" products producers...I can't see how, or why you would want to insist on remaining 'unmoved' by this issue...it makes me absolutely livid (the issue that is, not your attitude )!!

Lucky for me, I will be working in the legal field and know a lot of good lawyers. :D

And, I also have dermatitis. It wasn't caused by Vaseline or Noxzema. I was born with it, it's hereditary. Some of these "unnatural" products you're talking about are the ONLY things that make it better. God forbid, they ever do take them of the shelves and I'm stuck with some sissy wheat germ shampoo. Funny, my boss was talking about trying "natural" shampoo for the first time. It made her scalp itch and break out in hives. I personally have bought into the aluminum zinc cancer scares, and bought natural deodorant. Spent twice as much, it made me burn after shaving and didn't work at ALL. I never had experienced body odor till I tried that stuff. Never again. The cancer scare turned out to be a hoax, anyway. Probably just more propoganda for the natural product market. I'd also rather take my chances with cancer than have my pits afire every morning - just because something is made from natural ingredients doesn't mean it's safe. Until I see some really conclusive research proving DIRECT cause, I will use what works for me.

Not only did my Dr. tell me it is okay to use but my daughters Doctor at age 5 recomended it for her pierced ears???

Also when both my kids were born they (meaning several Dr.'s) told me to use it in lew of diaper cream as a new born to "protect" their skin during that new born stage when they poop 24/7???

One might even say that doctors are part of the problem. Afterall, their main treatment modality is to administer toxic drugs. I pay very little attention to them on matters such as these. I've just found better reference points elsewhere. But in the end "to each his own", of course.

Well I think we are all going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
I am more concerned about the toxins in the air I have no choice in breathing into my lungs every day.
To each his own :wave:

Are you talking to me? Nooo, I don't want to live to be 120. Who really wants to be old?? It's not about life being good or bad, it's about the quality of life one has when they're very old. Even if you're not happy with 85 or 95, it's not up to YOU to decide how long you'll live. If you use lotion extracted from pure, untouched tree sap, you may only live to see 55. I personally don't want to be so old that I'm unable to do normal functions on my own and am a burden to my loved ones. Most people who are in their 100s look to be in a sorrowful state - they often live to see their children buried. If Vaseline sends me to an early grave (which I'm laughing about that notion), just as well, because by the time I'm 65, the Earth's population will have doubled. Won't be a good life to live amidst the environmental disasters that will take place. Plus, my partner is quite a bit older than I, and I already know that I'll probably outlive him. My only plan is to simply live my life and spend eternity with the one I love. I'm not going to worry about every single ingredient I put in my body just to add on years because that's not really living.


I trust you will be one of the lucky ones...who suffers no sensitivities, no allergies (they can start any time, you know?), no eczema, no dermatitis, no cancer, etc., etc., etc......For, although you don't intend to pass your genes on to anyone...and although manufacturers will maintain there is no evidence that the chemicals they use are really problematic...every year more and more folks are suffering misery, discomfort and debilitating illness due to the effects of chemicals that are KNOWN to cause such problems, which are incorporated into products they also choose to keep using on their bodies...because THEY are actually IGNORANT of the facts (unlike yourself, who just won't accept them)!

Unless you have masses of ££££'s or $$$'s invested in the big cosmetics and body "care" products producers...I can't see how, or why you would want to insist on remaining 'unmoved' by this issue...it makes me absolutely livid (the issue that is, not your attitude )!!

Lucky for me, I will be working in the legal field and know a lot of good lawyers. :D

And, I also have dermatitis. It wasn't caused by Vaseline or Noxzema. I was born with it, it's hereditary. Some of these "unnatural" products you're talking about are the ONLY things that make it better. God forbid, they ever do take them of the shelves and I'm stuck with some sissy wheat germ shampoo. Funny, my boss was talking about trying "natural" shampoo for the first time. It made her scalp itch and break out in hives. I personally have bought into the aluminum zinc cancer scares, and bought natural deodorant. Spent twice as much, it made me burn after shaving and didn't work at ALL. I never had experienced body odor till I tried that stuff. Never again. The cancer scare turned out to be a hoax, anyway. Probably just more propoganda for the natural product market. I'd also rather take my chances with cancer than have my pits afire every morning - just because something is made from natural ingredients doesn't mean it's safe. Until I see some really conclusive research proving DIRECT cause, I will use what works for me.

LeeLee,

I'm with you....I completely agree. But then again, I live by this quote from Mavis Leyrer: "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy S***, what a ride!"

So I don't know....maybe it's just me. :p

Are you talking to me? Nooo, I don't want to live to be 120. Who really wants to be old?? It's not about life being good or bad, it's about the quality of life one has when they're very old. Even if you're not happy with 85 or 95, it's not up to YOU to decide how long you'll live. If you use lotion extracted from pure, untouched tree sap, you may only live to see 55. I personally don't want to be so old that I'm unable to do normal functions on my own and am a burden to my loved ones. Most people who are in their 100s look to be in a sorrowful state - they often live to see their children buried. If Vaseline sends me to an early grave (which I'm laughing about that notion), just as well, because by the time I'm 65, the Earth's population will have doubled. Won't be a good life to live amidst the environmental disasters that will take place. Plus, my partner is quite a bit older than I, and I already know that I'll probably outlive him. My only plan is to simply live my life and spend eternity with the one I love. I'm not going to worry about every single ingredient I put in my body just to add on years because that's not really living.


I trust you will be one of the lucky ones...who suffers no sensitivities, no allergies (they can start any time, you know?), no eczema, no dermatitis, no cancer, etc., etc., etc......For, although you don't intend to pass your genes on to anyone...and although manufacturers will maintain there is no evidence that the chemicals they use are really problematic...every year more and more folks are suffering misery, discomfort and debilitating illness due to the effects of chemicals that are KNOWN to cause such problems, which are incorporated into products they also choose to keep using on their bodies...because THEY are actually IGNORANT of the facts (unlike yourself, who just won't accept them)!

Unless you have masses of ££££'s or $$$'s invested in the big cosmetics and body "care" products producers...I can't see how, or why you would want to insist on remaining 'unmoved' by this issue...it makes me absolutely livid (the issue that is, not your attitude )!!

Lucky for me, I will be working in the legal field and know a lot of good lawyers. :D

And, I also have dermatitis. It wasn't caused by Vaseline or Noxzema. I was born with it, it's hereditary. Some of these "unnatural" products you're talking about are the ONLY things that make it better. God forbid, they ever do take them of the shelves and I'm stuck with some sissy wheat germ shampoo. Funny, my boss was talking about trying "natural" shampoo for the first time. It made her scalp itch and break out in hives. I personally have bought into the aluminum zinc cancer scares, and bought natural deodorant. Spent twice as much, it made me burn after shaving and didn't work at ALL. I never had experienced body odor till I tried that stuff. Never again. The cancer scare turned out to be a hoax, anyway. Probably just more propoganda for the natural product market. I'd also rather take my chances with cancer than have my pits afire every morning - just because something is made from natural ingredients doesn't mean it's safe. Until I see some really conclusive research proving DIRECT cause, I will use what works for me.


I don't agree with alot of this post. My daughter has had eczema since birth and is now 18 and still has it but all of the steroids and vasoline products perscribed did nothing. I have changed everything to organic and all natural products for her including un-petroleum jelly and guess what? she is showing improvments after all these years. Thankfully the steroid ointment lasts a very long time now. She can only use unscented natural hair products and unscented clothes detergent.