thegreattailz
12-13-2005, 05:51 AM
Hello, Please help if you know anyone that can help, I feel very few can. My symptoms are very different than many listed here. You may also be surprised to hear I'm 29 years old, and may find my symptoms are very unlike most problems.
I am currently seeing a cardiologist, I won't go into details, but I've had a chest x ray, an echocardiogram, a halter monitor, an event monitor, and a nuculear stress test. Although my Dr. hasn't talked to me about the event monitor yet (upcoming appointment) he has diagnosed me with premature atrial contractions, which although can be minor, the question remains, why is it there?
Currently I get heart palpitations, sparattically, without an increased heart rate. I dont smoke, and rarely drink. I had a small run in with a drug ecstacy 6 months ago, but dont have much heart problems in my family.
Currently im on clonazepam, which helps but doesnt solve the problem. I was told my heart is relatively healthy. But i still get these very serious palpitations that feel like a 9 volt battery is being stuck to me chest. It only lasts a beat, but is VERY deep. It feels like an electrical problem. Sometimes it subsides for a week or 2, and like tonight it just happened 4 times. On a scale of 1 to 10, it's not necessarily painfull in the usual sence, but it rates an 11 on the uncomfortability scale. This has been going on about 6 months since I did the x, but not sure if thats whats even causing it. I am relatively healthy, 29, dont smoke, rarely drink, never did hardcore drugs. I do have a high stress job im not willing to leave, 2 kids a wife, i dont eat as well as i should in terms of as much, i weigh 130lbs. My family Dr. put me on clonazepam which is a mild narcotic sedative which helps, but doesn;t resolve the issue. I had sever panic attacks and anxiety disorders (none diagnosed) one of which included a 4 hour terror binge to the ER after my doctor perscribed exffexor.
I feel as if I might seriously die, but i dont show any signs of heart attack or any heart conditions other than a possible arrythmia, and the pre mature atrial contractions, which is very vague. These symptoms are very strange, I of course haven't touched any illegal drugs since, and avoid excessive caffeine.
In a sence it's very annoying, extremely scared, uncomfortable, in a state of pain and although I'm told it's rather benign and a nuscience, im convinced it has either signifigantly shortened my natural lifespan, or simply I'll keel over at any moment and die.
I dont have much faith in modern medicine, the dr's haven't told me much of anything, took a bunch of tests that appear to be normal. But this condition, if im the first of its kind, is extremely serious to me a sive never felt anything like this before and have always been a good healer, my lineage is relatively healthy as well with no known immediate heart problems. Well, just my moms mom who died when i was 3 but she was an excessive alcoholic and smoker. My mom too smoked and drank heavily but stopped when i was 4 25 years ago. She had an anyurism and brain surgery 5 years ago, but they found it and shes fine. I dont drink rarely, and have never smoked.
Please help if theres any cardio vascular surgeon or cardiologist out there that knows what this is. It's basically my heart feels like its getting a shock, a strong electrical shock very sparratically. But oddly enough, they mostly happen at night when im tired and possibly malnutritished.
please help
I am currently seeing a cardiologist, I won't go into details, but I've had a chest x ray, an echocardiogram, a halter monitor, an event monitor, and a nuculear stress test. Although my Dr. hasn't talked to me about the event monitor yet (upcoming appointment) he has diagnosed me with premature atrial contractions, which although can be minor, the question remains, why is it there?
Currently I get heart palpitations, sparattically, without an increased heart rate. I dont smoke, and rarely drink. I had a small run in with a drug ecstacy 6 months ago, but dont have much heart problems in my family.
Currently im on clonazepam, which helps but doesnt solve the problem. I was told my heart is relatively healthy. But i still get these very serious palpitations that feel like a 9 volt battery is being stuck to me chest. It only lasts a beat, but is VERY deep. It feels like an electrical problem. Sometimes it subsides for a week or 2, and like tonight it just happened 4 times. On a scale of 1 to 10, it's not necessarily painfull in the usual sence, but it rates an 11 on the uncomfortability scale. This has been going on about 6 months since I did the x, but not sure if thats whats even causing it. I am relatively healthy, 29, dont smoke, rarely drink, never did hardcore drugs. I do have a high stress job im not willing to leave, 2 kids a wife, i dont eat as well as i should in terms of as much, i weigh 130lbs. My family Dr. put me on clonazepam which is a mild narcotic sedative which helps, but doesn;t resolve the issue. I had sever panic attacks and anxiety disorders (none diagnosed) one of which included a 4 hour terror binge to the ER after my doctor perscribed exffexor.
I feel as if I might seriously die, but i dont show any signs of heart attack or any heart conditions other than a possible arrythmia, and the pre mature atrial contractions, which is very vague. These symptoms are very strange, I of course haven't touched any illegal drugs since, and avoid excessive caffeine.
In a sence it's very annoying, extremely scared, uncomfortable, in a state of pain and although I'm told it's rather benign and a nuscience, im convinced it has either signifigantly shortened my natural lifespan, or simply I'll keel over at any moment and die.
I dont have much faith in modern medicine, the dr's haven't told me much of anything, took a bunch of tests that appear to be normal. But this condition, if im the first of its kind, is extremely serious to me a sive never felt anything like this before and have always been a good healer, my lineage is relatively healthy as well with no known immediate heart problems. Well, just my moms mom who died when i was 3 but she was an excessive alcoholic and smoker. My mom too smoked and drank heavily but stopped when i was 4 25 years ago. She had an anyurism and brain surgery 5 years ago, but they found it and shes fine. I dont drink rarely, and have never smoked.
Please help if theres any cardio vascular surgeon or cardiologist out there that knows what this is. It's basically my heart feels like its getting a shock, a strong electrical shock very sparratically. But oddly enough, they mostly happen at night when im tired and possibly malnutritished.
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Kathy C
12-13-2005, 09:06 AM
Ok this may sound harsh but YOU are not going to die. The doctors have told you what is worng which is PACs which is a type of arrhythmia. This is not a very serious condition and alot of times it happens to very healthy people for no reason. YOU are not the only one with this problem read throught the threads on this board. You will not be the last one to be diagnosed with this problem either.Your nutrition could be part of your problem and I can tell you your high stress job is apart of the problem.
PACs are annoying and eventually you will learn to live with them and with medication that will help control them. If you are seeing a Cardiologist that is good listen to them they know what they are talking about. A Cardiovascular WILL NOT do anything for you cause there is nothing to be fixed.
I am not sure what clonazepam is but maybe it needs to be upped.
PACs are annoying and eventually you will learn to live with them and with medication that will help control them. If you are seeing a Cardiologist that is good listen to them they know what they are talking about. A Cardiovascular WILL NOT do anything for you cause there is nothing to be fixed.
I am not sure what clonazepam is but maybe it needs to be upped.
ladychecotah
12-13-2005, 09:35 AM
I don't know where you live, but Dr G R Reddy in Weatherford, Texas is wonderful. He has been treating me since 2002 when the other dr gave up on me and thanks to the good Lord and his skill I am still able to work to help pay for my medicine and insurance.
thegreattailz
12-14-2005, 12:53 AM
Ok this may sound harsh but YOU are not going to die. The doctors have told you what is worng which is PACs which is a type of arrhythmia. This is not a very serious condition and alot of times it happens to very healthy people for no reason. YOU are not the only one with this problem read throught the threads on this board. You will not be the last one to be diagnosed with this problem either.Your nutrition could be part of your problem and I can tell you your high stress job is apart of the problem.
PACs are annoying and eventually you will learn to live with them and with medication that will help control them. If you are seeing a Cardiologist that is good listen to them they know what they are talking about. A Cardiovascular WILL NOT do anything for you cause there is nothing to be fixed.
I am not sure what clonazepam is but maybe it needs to be upped.
Hi, thanks for your help. If it's *just* pac's, then they're very serious, like I explained, a 9 volt battery sticking to your chest. I understand it may not be life threatening, but how long has this diagnosis been around? I understand i appear to be in no immediate danger, but the question is will it get worse? I'm generally an EXCELLENT HEALER, But these haven't gone away for 6 months. Sometimes they go away for 2 weeks, other times like last night it comes back. But I NEVER had 4 in an hour like last night. It's so scarry, these stupid arrythmia's... Sometimes I pound my chest in anger. It's weird, my heart feels strong, my muscles desire to be worked (more so i should because i have a sitting job) but im always tired. I'm young, not even 30 yet. At this point, I dont know if it was the drug or not (many tell me its not) but i dont even care, i just want to be me again this christmas, thats all I want.
The clonazepam is just a mild sedative. Last time the dr. perscribed me something it was that effexor, after 2 doses, cause or not, it sent me on a 4 hour terror attack to the er that I was thoroughly convinced was a heart attack. With the drug xtc, alot is involved in terms of side effects, panic, anxiety, emotional problems, mood swings, and now heart palps.
I can agree with the nutrition and the stress, but get this. I am quite happy with my job. I have made twice as much money in my line of work as I ever did anywhere else, never once have I said "I can't handle this, I want to quit, or I don't want to do this line of work anymore". If it is stress, it's built up and not on a conscious level.
Please tell me more about these PAC's, I've heard of them, read about them, but what do they mean? Unfortunately, they are there for a reason when they're not suposed to be. I can handle the fact they are benign, but I can't yet handle the fact I have to live with them the rest of my life. At the same time, my heart feels young and strong, and then again at times it just seems ****ed up.
PACs are annoying and eventually you will learn to live with them and with medication that will help control them. If you are seeing a Cardiologist that is good listen to them they know what they are talking about. A Cardiovascular WILL NOT do anything for you cause there is nothing to be fixed.
I am not sure what clonazepam is but maybe it needs to be upped.
Hi, thanks for your help. If it's *just* pac's, then they're very serious, like I explained, a 9 volt battery sticking to your chest. I understand it may not be life threatening, but how long has this diagnosis been around? I understand i appear to be in no immediate danger, but the question is will it get worse? I'm generally an EXCELLENT HEALER, But these haven't gone away for 6 months. Sometimes they go away for 2 weeks, other times like last night it comes back. But I NEVER had 4 in an hour like last night. It's so scarry, these stupid arrythmia's... Sometimes I pound my chest in anger. It's weird, my heart feels strong, my muscles desire to be worked (more so i should because i have a sitting job) but im always tired. I'm young, not even 30 yet. At this point, I dont know if it was the drug or not (many tell me its not) but i dont even care, i just want to be me again this christmas, thats all I want.
The clonazepam is just a mild sedative. Last time the dr. perscribed me something it was that effexor, after 2 doses, cause or not, it sent me on a 4 hour terror attack to the er that I was thoroughly convinced was a heart attack. With the drug xtc, alot is involved in terms of side effects, panic, anxiety, emotional problems, mood swings, and now heart palps.
I can agree with the nutrition and the stress, but get this. I am quite happy with my job. I have made twice as much money in my line of work as I ever did anywhere else, never once have I said "I can't handle this, I want to quit, or I don't want to do this line of work anymore". If it is stress, it's built up and not on a conscious level.
Please tell me more about these PAC's, I've heard of them, read about them, but what do they mean? Unfortunately, they are there for a reason when they're not suposed to be. I can handle the fact they are benign, but I can't yet handle the fact I have to live with them the rest of my life. At the same time, my heart feels young and strong, and then again at times it just seems ****ed up.
ASDGRMama
12-14-2005, 05:45 PM
I am a 29 year old mother of 5 and I have PACs. Yes...it feels like there is a 9-volt battery attached to my chest sometimes. My arms get tingly, I get light-headed, I have pressure/pulling in my chest and have trouble breathing. It has been 2 years since they started and they've gotten progressively noticeable. I do not smoke, drink or take in excessive amounts of caffeine. I have found that exercise improves them, magnesium supplements decrease their frequency, maintaining a good sleep cycle, drinking plenty of water and eating small meals every few hours has also helped me. I avoid caffeine/stimulants including sugar as much as possible. I also try to keep my stress level to a minimum by staying organized and saying "no" to many unnecessary activities.
You are by far not alone. Sometimes a couple big deep breaths or forcing yourself to cough can help stop the discomfort during an episode.
I'm uncertain why you feel so strongly that you're situation is unique. PACs are a very common finding on EKG and holter monitoring. It's basically a variation of normal for most people. The treatment is to alleviate troublesome symptoms. If you do not feel your symptoms are being adequately treated then speak with your dr about other options.
If you're concerned that there is some underlying pathology then talk with the cardio about it...he may be able to run more tests to alleviate your concerns.
I'm sorry you're feeling somewhat isolated and fearful. I hope this post is reassuring and encouraging as it's intended to be.
When I first posted here someone suggested magnesium supplements. Do some research on dosages and go from there. I started a supplement about a week ago and it seems to have decreased the frequency some...
Keep posting here for any needed support. We're happy to offer it. PACs can be alarming and at times very scary. Let us know how you're doing!
Love and Prayers, Kelly
You are by far not alone. Sometimes a couple big deep breaths or forcing yourself to cough can help stop the discomfort during an episode.
I'm uncertain why you feel so strongly that you're situation is unique. PACs are a very common finding on EKG and holter monitoring. It's basically a variation of normal for most people. The treatment is to alleviate troublesome symptoms. If you do not feel your symptoms are being adequately treated then speak with your dr about other options.
If you're concerned that there is some underlying pathology then talk with the cardio about it...he may be able to run more tests to alleviate your concerns.
I'm sorry you're feeling somewhat isolated and fearful. I hope this post is reassuring and encouraging as it's intended to be.
When I first posted here someone suggested magnesium supplements. Do some research on dosages and go from there. I started a supplement about a week ago and it seems to have decreased the frequency some...
Keep posting here for any needed support. We're happy to offer it. PACs can be alarming and at times very scary. Let us know how you're doing!
Love and Prayers, Kelly
thegreattailz
12-15-2005, 01:57 PM
I am a 29 year old mother of 5 and I have PACs. Yes...it feels like there is a 9-volt battery attached to my chest sometimes. My arms get tingly, I get light-headed, I have pressure/pulling in my chest and have trouble breathing. It has been 2 years since they started and they've gotten progressively noticeable. I do not smoke, drink or take in excessive amounts of caffeine. I have found that exercise improves them, magnesium supplements decrease their frequency, maintaining a good sleep cycle, drinking plenty of water and eating small meals every few hours has also helped me. I avoid caffeine/stimulants including sugar as much as possible. I also try to keep my stress level to a minimum by staying organized and saying "no" to many unnecessary activities.
You are by far not alone. Sometimes a couple big deep breaths or forcing yourself to cough can help stop the discomfort during an episode.
I'm uncertain why you feel so strongly that you're situation is unique. PACs are a very common finding on EKG and holter monitoring. It's basically a variation of normal for most people. The treatment is to alleviate troublesome symptoms. If you do not feel your symptoms are being adequately treated then speak with your dr about other options.
If you're concerned that there is some underlying pathology then talk with the cardio about it...he may be able to run more tests to alleviate your concerns.
I'm sorry you're feeling somewhat isolated and fearful. I hope this post is reassuring and encouraging as it's intended to be.
When I first posted here someone suggested magnesium supplements. Do some research on dosages and go from there. I started a supplement about a week ago and it seems to have decreased the frequency some...
Keep posting here for any needed support. We're happy to offer it. PACs can be alarming and at times very scary. Let us know how you're doing!
Love and Prayers, Kelly
Hey thanks, my only concern is what I'm feeling actually a pac, or worse? I've been told they're benign, but how long has this diagnosis been around, and how are people doing that had this 10 and 20 years ago? I fear this is a death warrent, a ticking time bomb if you will and im enlightened to know its gonna happen and likely how.
Alot are saying its stress, how do i aleviate this? Its not as simple as it sounds. Do beta blockers help pac's? Am I stuck with this condition for the rest of my life?
You are by far not alone. Sometimes a couple big deep breaths or forcing yourself to cough can help stop the discomfort during an episode.
I'm uncertain why you feel so strongly that you're situation is unique. PACs are a very common finding on EKG and holter monitoring. It's basically a variation of normal for most people. The treatment is to alleviate troublesome symptoms. If you do not feel your symptoms are being adequately treated then speak with your dr about other options.
If you're concerned that there is some underlying pathology then talk with the cardio about it...he may be able to run more tests to alleviate your concerns.
I'm sorry you're feeling somewhat isolated and fearful. I hope this post is reassuring and encouraging as it's intended to be.
When I first posted here someone suggested magnesium supplements. Do some research on dosages and go from there. I started a supplement about a week ago and it seems to have decreased the frequency some...
Keep posting here for any needed support. We're happy to offer it. PACs can be alarming and at times very scary. Let us know how you're doing!
Love and Prayers, Kelly
Hey thanks, my only concern is what I'm feeling actually a pac, or worse? I've been told they're benign, but how long has this diagnosis been around, and how are people doing that had this 10 and 20 years ago? I fear this is a death warrent, a ticking time bomb if you will and im enlightened to know its gonna happen and likely how.
Alot are saying its stress, how do i aleviate this? Its not as simple as it sounds. Do beta blockers help pac's? Am I stuck with this condition for the rest of my life?
thegreattailz
12-16-2005, 01:39 AM
Does this kind of thing go on forever?
ASDGRMama
12-16-2005, 01:47 AM
PACs were first recorded in 1910...it's not a new discovery. The phenomena has been around since the first heart beat I would imagine :) . In the 1970's PACs were given significant attention but they were found to be benign most of the time. In the situations that they are not benign there are accompanying wave reactions on the EKG/holter monitoring.
There are segments called PQRST and J (at least those are the ones I'm aware of). If the waves do not follow a normal pattern (and there are many variations of normal) a cardiologist will determine whether or not there is significant disturbances in the heart that may lead to a cardiac incident and take appropriate action.
You have had so many tests done that point to a healthy heart with benign PACs. It's extremely unlikely that you were misdiagnosed.
Your PACs may be reduced by adopting the suggestions I posted above. I understand your reasoning that there must be a cause but at this point all you can do is reduce the symptoms. You may never locate a cause or it may be as simple as eating more frequently, a magnesium deficiency, possible drug side effects (prescription or otherwise) etc... It's really just trial and error to see what helps.
Why are you on the clonazepam? I wouldn't call it a "mild sedative". It's an anti-seizure med that has sedative effects and anti-anxiety properties. It also lists palpitations as one of the side effects. It can interact with other anti-anxiety meds (did you take the effexor along with the clonazepam?).
Do you feel that you have an anxiety disorder? If so, finding the right med may help reduce the stress you're experiencing. Also, regular exercise is helpful in reducing high stress levels.
The two worst offenders for me are not eating enough and not getting enough sleep (I have insomnia frequently and take meds when I need to).
It's not going to hurt to try the things I suggested. Give it a shot and see if it helps. The magnesium may take a little time but eventually it could help (you know you're taking too much if you get diarrhea).
Beta-blockers and other meds are not anything you want unless you absolutely need them. Frequently the danger of PACs is unnecessary treatments. Drugs have side effects and the benefits have to outweigh the risks. I know you're feeling poorly but meds should be a last resort not your first.
I agree it's a pain to live with them but I've gotten quite used to mine and the accompanying symptoms. I just try to do something to take my mind off of it (I'm in tae kwon do and doing the forms is helpful in my opinion). Try not to think about them...the more you think about them the more aware you become and that can be maddening :) . Find something else to occupy your mind. Deep abdominal breathing has helped too.
Anyway, I've said enough. Even though I've had PACs for years I just had the holter monitoring done a little over a month ago. I will be seeing a cardiologist in January (I'm seeing the cardio because I have ST segment elevations and I want to hear from him that they're benign rather than hearing it from the PA at my dr's office). So I still have a lot of questions also. What I've shared with you is just from poking around the web and reading everything I can. Knowledge reduces fear. Educate yourself about your condition and talk to your dr if you're still concerned.
Love and Prayers, Kelly
P.S. PACs are simply an extra beat originating in the atrium. It's unlikely that they will get worse (worse as in more frequent not more dangerous) if you avoid triggering substances and situations.
There are segments called PQRST and J (at least those are the ones I'm aware of). If the waves do not follow a normal pattern (and there are many variations of normal) a cardiologist will determine whether or not there is significant disturbances in the heart that may lead to a cardiac incident and take appropriate action.
You have had so many tests done that point to a healthy heart with benign PACs. It's extremely unlikely that you were misdiagnosed.
Your PACs may be reduced by adopting the suggestions I posted above. I understand your reasoning that there must be a cause but at this point all you can do is reduce the symptoms. You may never locate a cause or it may be as simple as eating more frequently, a magnesium deficiency, possible drug side effects (prescription or otherwise) etc... It's really just trial and error to see what helps.
Why are you on the clonazepam? I wouldn't call it a "mild sedative". It's an anti-seizure med that has sedative effects and anti-anxiety properties. It also lists palpitations as one of the side effects. It can interact with other anti-anxiety meds (did you take the effexor along with the clonazepam?).
Do you feel that you have an anxiety disorder? If so, finding the right med may help reduce the stress you're experiencing. Also, regular exercise is helpful in reducing high stress levels.
The two worst offenders for me are not eating enough and not getting enough sleep (I have insomnia frequently and take meds when I need to).
It's not going to hurt to try the things I suggested. Give it a shot and see if it helps. The magnesium may take a little time but eventually it could help (you know you're taking too much if you get diarrhea).
Beta-blockers and other meds are not anything you want unless you absolutely need them. Frequently the danger of PACs is unnecessary treatments. Drugs have side effects and the benefits have to outweigh the risks. I know you're feeling poorly but meds should be a last resort not your first.
I agree it's a pain to live with them but I've gotten quite used to mine and the accompanying symptoms. I just try to do something to take my mind off of it (I'm in tae kwon do and doing the forms is helpful in my opinion). Try not to think about them...the more you think about them the more aware you become and that can be maddening :) . Find something else to occupy your mind. Deep abdominal breathing has helped too.
Anyway, I've said enough. Even though I've had PACs for years I just had the holter monitoring done a little over a month ago. I will be seeing a cardiologist in January (I'm seeing the cardio because I have ST segment elevations and I want to hear from him that they're benign rather than hearing it from the PA at my dr's office). So I still have a lot of questions also. What I've shared with you is just from poking around the web and reading everything I can. Knowledge reduces fear. Educate yourself about your condition and talk to your dr if you're still concerned.
Love and Prayers, Kelly
P.S. PACs are simply an extra beat originating in the atrium. It's unlikely that they will get worse (worse as in more frequent not more dangerous) if you avoid triggering substances and situations.
ASDGRMama
12-16-2005, 02:07 AM
I forgot to mention that many people with PACs will have thousands of episodes in a day (even tens of thousands). Sometimes they notice them sometimes they don't.
When I lay down to go to bed at night I frequently have what must be hundreds of ectopic beats. Usually they occur every other to every fourth beat until I fall asleep with accompanying symptoms (I only get the symptoms when I'm lying down).
I say that to make the comparison between your PACs and mine. Four episodes in one evening really isn't that much (even though one incident is enough to send some people to the ER... and understandably so!).
I'm not trying to make light of your situation but I'm hoping to bring some perspective to it.
Kelly
When I lay down to go to bed at night I frequently have what must be hundreds of ectopic beats. Usually they occur every other to every fourth beat until I fall asleep with accompanying symptoms (I only get the symptoms when I'm lying down).
I say that to make the comparison between your PACs and mine. Four episodes in one evening really isn't that much (even though one incident is enough to send some people to the ER... and understandably so!).
I'm not trying to make light of your situation but I'm hoping to bring some perspective to it.
Kelly
Lenin
12-18-2005, 09:52 AM
tailz,
WHat is happening with the PAC is VERY similar to the "9-volt battery stuck in your chest"...you are experience an occasional short circuit in the heart's electrical system that regulates rhythm. Some people get a "spot weld" :D to burn out the originating spot of this errant electrical burst...the procedure is called ABLATION.
A better drug family than the Klonopin you are taking are the beta-blaockers like atenolol or metoprolol.
If you want to try a very simple aide that many people have good results with, add daily magnesium to your dietary supplements. Take any form of magnesium, Mg (MgO is probably the cheapest at about $4 a bottleful) and take 250- 500 mg. a day. Magnesium is probably the most important element in rhythm regulation.
WHat is happening with the PAC is VERY similar to the "9-volt battery stuck in your chest"...you are experience an occasional short circuit in the heart's electrical system that regulates rhythm. Some people get a "spot weld" :D to burn out the originating spot of this errant electrical burst...the procedure is called ABLATION.
A better drug family than the Klonopin you are taking are the beta-blaockers like atenolol or metoprolol.
If you want to try a very simple aide that many people have good results with, add daily magnesium to your dietary supplements. Take any form of magnesium, Mg (MgO is probably the cheapest at about $4 a bottleful) and take 250- 500 mg. a day. Magnesium is probably the most important element in rhythm regulation.
thegreattailz
12-18-2005, 03:37 PM
tailz,
WHat is happening with the PAC is VERY similar to the "9-volt battery stuck in your chest"...you are experience an occasional short circuit in the heart's electrical system that regulates rhythm. Some people get a "spot weld" :D to burn out the originating spot of this errant electrical burst...the procedure is called ABLATION.
A better drug family than the Klonopin you are taking are the beta-blaockers like atenolol or metoprolol.
If you want to try a very simple aide that many people have good results with, add daily magnesium to your dietary supplements. Take any form of magnesium, Mg (MgO is probably the cheapest at about $4 a bottleful) and take 250- 500 mg. a day. Magnesium is probably the most important element in rhythm regulation.
Wow, thanks lenin, you helped alot. Although your post scares me, ablation if you look it up on www.dictionary.com and tie the definition to ones heart, is pretty scarry. Won't that cause a "bad spot" on my heart, and requires open heart surgery? Does this mean I am now having "heart problems" at such an early age?
cAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT MAGNESIUM, WHY IT WORKS AND WHERE I CAN GET IT?
WHat is happening with the PAC is VERY similar to the "9-volt battery stuck in your chest"...you are experience an occasional short circuit in the heart's electrical system that regulates rhythm. Some people get a "spot weld" :D to burn out the originating spot of this errant electrical burst...the procedure is called ABLATION.
A better drug family than the Klonopin you are taking are the beta-blaockers like atenolol or metoprolol.
If you want to try a very simple aide that many people have good results with, add daily magnesium to your dietary supplements. Take any form of magnesium, Mg (MgO is probably the cheapest at about $4 a bottleful) and take 250- 500 mg. a day. Magnesium is probably the most important element in rhythm regulation.
Wow, thanks lenin, you helped alot. Although your post scares me, ablation if you look it up on www.dictionary.com and tie the definition to ones heart, is pretty scarry. Won't that cause a "bad spot" on my heart, and requires open heart surgery? Does this mean I am now having "heart problems" at such an early age?
cAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT MAGNESIUM, WHY IT WORKS AND WHERE I CAN GET IT?
ASDGRMama
12-19-2005, 12:21 AM
Magnesium is a mineral that everyone needs. You can find it at your local pharmacy or health food store. It is a natural muscle relaxant. It's very useful for those with muscle cramping/twitching of any kind. It is also used to help with depression, stop premature labor, relieve PMS symptoms and treat constipation. Taken before bed it may produce a calming effect and promote sleep as well as possibly reduce the symptoms of restless leg syndrome. It has been known to be effective in treating various cardiovascular symptoms for many years.
Ablation is an invasive (at least it is by my definition!!), destructive, irreversible procedure. It does not require open heart surgery. It is done by radio frequency and a catheter inserted through a vein; it's considered a nonsurgical intervention. The procedure is relatively safe but is not without risks, such as: infection, swelling/bruising, damage to blood vessels and possibly to the entire electrical system of the heart which would require the placement of a pacemaker.
I hope you're able to find an effective solution and some relief. Let us know.
Kelly
P.S. Your tests have not proven that you have a "heart problem". If you're still concerned get a second opinion from another cardiologist. These boards are no substitute for the medical care you would receive from a specialist...only they can determine if you have a "heart problem" :) .
Heart conditions affect people of all ages...even people who are not born yet.
Ablation is an invasive (at least it is by my definition!!), destructive, irreversible procedure. It does not require open heart surgery. It is done by radio frequency and a catheter inserted through a vein; it's considered a nonsurgical intervention. The procedure is relatively safe but is not without risks, such as: infection, swelling/bruising, damage to blood vessels and possibly to the entire electrical system of the heart which would require the placement of a pacemaker.
I hope you're able to find an effective solution and some relief. Let us know.
Kelly
P.S. Your tests have not proven that you have a "heart problem". If you're still concerned get a second opinion from another cardiologist. These boards are no substitute for the medical care you would receive from a specialist...only they can determine if you have a "heart problem" :) .
Heart conditions affect people of all ages...even people who are not born yet.
thegreattailz
12-19-2005, 04:00 AM
Magnesium is a mineral that everyone needs. You can find it at your local pharmacy or health food store. It is a natural muscle relaxant. It's very useful for those with muscle cramping/twitching of any kind. It is also used to help with depression, stop premature labor, relieve PMS symptoms and treat constipation. Taken before bed it may produce a calming effect and promote sleep as well as possibly reduce the symptoms of restless leg syndrome. It has been known to be effective in treating various cardiovascular symptoms for many years.
Ablation is an invasive (at least it is by my definition!!), destructive, irreversible procedure. It does not require open heart surgery. It is done by radio frequency and a catheter inserted through a vein; it's considered a nonsurgical intervention. The procedure is relatively safe but is not without risks, such as: infection, swelling/bruising, damage to blood vessels and possibly to the entire electrical system of the heart which would require the placement of a pacemaker.
I hope you're able to find an effective solution and some relief. Let us know.
Kelly
P.S. Your tests have not proven that you have a "heart problem". If you're still concerned get a second opinion from another cardiologist. These boards are no substitute for the medical care you would receive from a specialist...only they can determine if you have a "heart problem" :) .
Heart conditions affect people of all ages...even people who are not born yet.
This information board is so helpful, and my condition is so scarry. Maybe its heart failure and not pac's, that's how dangerous they feel. Magnesium certainly sounds like the better choice. Why do you think ablation is bad? Do you think it's a heart problem, or possibly brain damage to the part that's controlling the heart's electrical system?
I'm sorry, but dude it's been happening all night long... I took 2 .5mg clonazepams which help, but it doesn't solve the issue. Not that's its suposed to. My situation seems to be getting worse? What happens when they get worse, that is, if it is in fact what's happening to me. Do pac's eventually turn into heart failure? Having those electrical discharges can't be good. Does it feel different when you have a heart attack, because most heart attacks aren't electrically generated?
Ablation is an invasive (at least it is by my definition!!), destructive, irreversible procedure. It does not require open heart surgery. It is done by radio frequency and a catheter inserted through a vein; it's considered a nonsurgical intervention. The procedure is relatively safe but is not without risks, such as: infection, swelling/bruising, damage to blood vessels and possibly to the entire electrical system of the heart which would require the placement of a pacemaker.
I hope you're able to find an effective solution and some relief. Let us know.
Kelly
P.S. Your tests have not proven that you have a "heart problem". If you're still concerned get a second opinion from another cardiologist. These boards are no substitute for the medical care you would receive from a specialist...only they can determine if you have a "heart problem" :) .
Heart conditions affect people of all ages...even people who are not born yet.
This information board is so helpful, and my condition is so scarry. Maybe its heart failure and not pac's, that's how dangerous they feel. Magnesium certainly sounds like the better choice. Why do you think ablation is bad? Do you think it's a heart problem, or possibly brain damage to the part that's controlling the heart's electrical system?
I'm sorry, but dude it's been happening all night long... I took 2 .5mg clonazepams which help, but it doesn't solve the issue. Not that's its suposed to. My situation seems to be getting worse? What happens when they get worse, that is, if it is in fact what's happening to me. Do pac's eventually turn into heart failure? Having those electrical discharges can't be good. Does it feel different when you have a heart attack, because most heart attacks aren't electrically generated?
ASDGRMama
12-20-2005, 12:45 AM
I don't think ablation is bad...I feel it's necessary for some people. I strongly feel though it should be a last resort since it's irreversible.
As for a brain condition that may be causing your symptoms it's unlikely. Cardiac function is controlled largely by the medulla (part of the brainstem) and a lesion located there can produce arrhythmias but they are accompanied by other symptoms. If you'd like it ruled out request an MRI of the brain. I think tests for the sole sake of peace of mind are always worthwhile.
It doesn't surprise me that they're getting worse. You seem to be very anxious about them and that in and of itself can increase their frequency. I know it's hard not to think about them (especially if you have them often). You really need to find a way to relax though. You do not appear to be in imminent danger of cardiac arrest...your tests would have shown it.
Don't let it run your life...find a way to take control. I suggest you read everything you can about it; as I said before...knowledge reduces fear.
Please let us know how it goes.
Kelly
P.S. If you are experiencing any other vague, seemingly unrelated symptoms such as joint pain, fatigue, intolerance to hot/cold etc...you can request endocrine testing including a metabolic/electrolyte work-up. Imbalances can cause arrhythmias. At least it's something to consider.
As for a brain condition that may be causing your symptoms it's unlikely. Cardiac function is controlled largely by the medulla (part of the brainstem) and a lesion located there can produce arrhythmias but they are accompanied by other symptoms. If you'd like it ruled out request an MRI of the brain. I think tests for the sole sake of peace of mind are always worthwhile.
It doesn't surprise me that they're getting worse. You seem to be very anxious about them and that in and of itself can increase their frequency. I know it's hard not to think about them (especially if you have them often). You really need to find a way to relax though. You do not appear to be in imminent danger of cardiac arrest...your tests would have shown it.
Don't let it run your life...find a way to take control. I suggest you read everything you can about it; as I said before...knowledge reduces fear.
Please let us know how it goes.
Kelly
P.S. If you are experiencing any other vague, seemingly unrelated symptoms such as joint pain, fatigue, intolerance to hot/cold etc...you can request endocrine testing including a metabolic/electrolyte work-up. Imbalances can cause arrhythmias. At least it's something to consider.
thegreattailz
12-20-2005, 01:35 AM
I don't think ablation is bad...I feel it's necessary for some people. I strongly feel though it should be a last resort since it's irreversible.
As for a brain condition that may be causing your symptoms it's unlikely. Cardiac function is controlled largely by the medulla (part of the brainstem) and a lesion located there can produce arrhythmias but they are accompanied by other symptoms. If you'd like it ruled out request an MRI of the brain. I think tests for the sole sake of peace of mind are always worthwhile.
It doesn't surprise me that they're getting worse. You seem to be very anxious about them and that in and of itself can increase their frequency. I know it's hard not to think about them (especially if you have them often). You really need to find a way to relax though. You do not appear to be in imminent danger of cardiac arrest...your tests would have shown it.
Don't let it run your life...find a way to take control. I suggest you read everything you can about it; as I said before...knowledge reduces fear.
Please let us know how it goes.
Kelly
P.S. If you are experiencing any other vague, seemingly unrelated symptoms such as joint pain, fatigue, intolerance to hot/cold etc...you can request endocrine testing including a metabolic/electrolyte work-up. Imbalances can cause arrhythmias. At least it's something to consider.
I don't eat very well, but take vitamins occasionally. I'm sure I'm not getting the calories I should be. I do experience fatigue randomly. The problem is they are very random, alot of times during exercise, like i was walking around the mall and they kept happening, or when i play hard in my band. Maybe it's just nutritional. I even considered taking a temporary disability from work, if only I could afford it.
Thanks for your help ill keep ya updated.
As for a brain condition that may be causing your symptoms it's unlikely. Cardiac function is controlled largely by the medulla (part of the brainstem) and a lesion located there can produce arrhythmias but they are accompanied by other symptoms. If you'd like it ruled out request an MRI of the brain. I think tests for the sole sake of peace of mind are always worthwhile.
It doesn't surprise me that they're getting worse. You seem to be very anxious about them and that in and of itself can increase their frequency. I know it's hard not to think about them (especially if you have them often). You really need to find a way to relax though. You do not appear to be in imminent danger of cardiac arrest...your tests would have shown it.
Don't let it run your life...find a way to take control. I suggest you read everything you can about it; as I said before...knowledge reduces fear.
Please let us know how it goes.
Kelly
P.S. If you are experiencing any other vague, seemingly unrelated symptoms such as joint pain, fatigue, intolerance to hot/cold etc...you can request endocrine testing including a metabolic/electrolyte work-up. Imbalances can cause arrhythmias. At least it's something to consider.
I don't eat very well, but take vitamins occasionally. I'm sure I'm not getting the calories I should be. I do experience fatigue randomly. The problem is they are very random, alot of times during exercise, like i was walking around the mall and they kept happening, or when i play hard in my band. Maybe it's just nutritional. I even considered taking a temporary disability from work, if only I could afford it.
Thanks for your help ill keep ya updated.
Lenin
12-20-2005, 08:53 AM
Tailz,
Go to your local Vitamin Shoppe or GNC or any supplement store, or Puritan Pride online. Buy 500 mg. MgO and take one-a-day. If they are charging more then $5 for a bottle of 100, they are overcharging.
If it works well, you will know in 3 or 4 days.
Go to your local Vitamin Shoppe or GNC or any supplement store, or Puritan Pride online. Buy 500 mg. MgO and take one-a-day. If they are charging more then $5 for a bottle of 100, they are overcharging.
If it works well, you will know in 3 or 4 days.
thegreattailz
12-23-2005, 02:50 AM
Why are you on the clonazepam? I wouldn't call it a "mild sedative". It's an anti-seizure med that has sedative effects and anti-anxiety properties. It also lists palpitations as one of the side effects. It can interact with other anti-anxiety meds (did you take the effexor along with the clonazepam?).
I believe your mistaken about the clonazepam. It does have anti anxiety properties. Back in March, I believe I took the effexor without the clonazepam. 2 small doses sent me on a 4 hour terror binge to the ER. My heart felt weird, energized, encapsulated, ecstatic, frizzing, It wasn't good, I thought I was having a heart attack. I can't tell if it was the effexor, but thats the worst panic attack I've ever had. It was like 3 or 4 chemicals released into your blood, I could feel it just like adrenaline. It came in waves, and its one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever felt. Except uncomfortable is the wrong word. I thought I was dying. Literally, and that was my body's defence against whatever. It was bad. It wasn't a regular panic/anxiety attack, nothing brought it on, i was sitting at home watching a movie eating soup after work and the chemicals just hit me for no reason. So I question that it even was a panic attack.
I dont suffer panic anymore, but I did in the spring. But I take the clonazepam because it helps even me out, makes me feel better when I have the palpitations, and the cardiologist is aware of this.
It doesn't surprise me that they're getting worse. You seem to be very anxious about them and that in and of itself can increase their frequency. I know it's hard not to think about them (especially if you have them often). You really need to find a way to relax though. You do not appear to be in imminent danger of cardiac arrest...your tests would have shown it.
I'm just wondering if we're talking about the same thing... I had one today, you talk like yours aren't a big deal. Mine are so large that one is enough. It drains your energy, at least it has before where I had to leave work, scared almost going to the er. I haven't had the energy draining ones in a while, but the ones I get are smaller ones, enough to offset me for the rest of the day. Actually, the larger heart palpitations have induced the panic attack. Its affected me so whenever I take the .5mg of clonazepam I chew it to get it into my system quicker.
I believe your mistaken about the clonazepam. It does have anti anxiety properties. Back in March, I believe I took the effexor without the clonazepam. 2 small doses sent me on a 4 hour terror binge to the ER. My heart felt weird, energized, encapsulated, ecstatic, frizzing, It wasn't good, I thought I was having a heart attack. I can't tell if it was the effexor, but thats the worst panic attack I've ever had. It was like 3 or 4 chemicals released into your blood, I could feel it just like adrenaline. It came in waves, and its one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever felt. Except uncomfortable is the wrong word. I thought I was dying. Literally, and that was my body's defence against whatever. It was bad. It wasn't a regular panic/anxiety attack, nothing brought it on, i was sitting at home watching a movie eating soup after work and the chemicals just hit me for no reason. So I question that it even was a panic attack.
I dont suffer panic anymore, but I did in the spring. But I take the clonazepam because it helps even me out, makes me feel better when I have the palpitations, and the cardiologist is aware of this.
It doesn't surprise me that they're getting worse. You seem to be very anxious about them and that in and of itself can increase their frequency. I know it's hard not to think about them (especially if you have them often). You really need to find a way to relax though. You do not appear to be in imminent danger of cardiac arrest...your tests would have shown it.
I'm just wondering if we're talking about the same thing... I had one today, you talk like yours aren't a big deal. Mine are so large that one is enough. It drains your energy, at least it has before where I had to leave work, scared almost going to the er. I haven't had the energy draining ones in a while, but the ones I get are smaller ones, enough to offset me for the rest of the day. Actually, the larger heart palpitations have induced the panic attack. Its affected me so whenever I take the .5mg of clonazepam I chew it to get it into my system quicker.
ASDGRMama
12-24-2005, 01:16 AM
As far as I've read using it as anything outside of an anti-seizure med is an off label use (many drugs have off label uses...I happen to be on a med and using it for a reason other than what it's labeled for).
I have no idea if my episodes are as intense as yours or not but I know the draining feeling. I feel as if my body is going to give out. The light-headedness, shortness of breath and tingling make me feel like a shock wave is going through my body. It makes me feel sleepy and weak.
If your dr said you have PACs then we're talking about the same thing. I also have PACs. You may be experiencing them to a greater degree however. It's hard to say.
I guess I've never gone to the ER because I've never read anything that shows it'd be helpful. My blood pressure is fine, I'm conscious and my pulse is slow but okay (it does get kind of weak and far away but then it arights).
I have a condition called Hashimoto's thyroiditis (among other hormonal imbalances). It's poorly controlled so I tend to chalk all weird symptoms up to that and don't visit the ER often. I always figure if it's serious it's only going to get worse at which point I'll KNOW that I need to go in :rolleyes: . It's probably not the best viewpoint to have (and I don't recommend that anyone adopt it!) but after dealing with drs frequently for the last two years I'd prefer to avoid them as much as possible. I've experienced far worse things than PACs...for me it's just par for the course :) .
Kelly
I have no idea if my episodes are as intense as yours or not but I know the draining feeling. I feel as if my body is going to give out. The light-headedness, shortness of breath and tingling make me feel like a shock wave is going through my body. It makes me feel sleepy and weak.
If your dr said you have PACs then we're talking about the same thing. I also have PACs. You may be experiencing them to a greater degree however. It's hard to say.
I guess I've never gone to the ER because I've never read anything that shows it'd be helpful. My blood pressure is fine, I'm conscious and my pulse is slow but okay (it does get kind of weak and far away but then it arights).
I have a condition called Hashimoto's thyroiditis (among other hormonal imbalances). It's poorly controlled so I tend to chalk all weird symptoms up to that and don't visit the ER often. I always figure if it's serious it's only going to get worse at which point I'll KNOW that I need to go in :rolleyes: . It's probably not the best viewpoint to have (and I don't recommend that anyone adopt it!) but after dealing with drs frequently for the last two years I'd prefer to avoid them as much as possible. I've experienced far worse things than PACs...for me it's just par for the course :) .
Kelly
thegreattailz
12-25-2005, 01:53 AM
Well, thanks for your help. Its alot to know your not alone. But I do wish you the best, and well, today, a merry x-mas. I wish you good health and god's prayer and hope your condition will be better, if it ails you as much as mine. If I'm not mistaken, i do think you are a little older than me. I'm not so sure if I'm having problems at a relatively young age. If I may ask, and if your inclined to tell, what have you had that's worse? Me myself, have lived through a concussion, broken leg, numerous stiches, other broken bones, and this by far, is the most uncomfortable scarriest medical thing I've ever had. So much so I will never go near hard drugs again, and totally reversed my stance from pro choice and pro experience, to anti drug totally. Many people say it wasn't the drug, that it's stress. I've only done the drug 4 times in my life, and not too many people have serious side effects from such little use.
Lenin
12-25-2005, 08:30 AM
If you are looking for a medication that is FAR better suited to irregular heartbeat and tachycardia than an antipsychotic, anti seizure benzodiazepine like Klonopin, look to the beta-blockers. They are the first choice to slow down a jittery heart, well, first PRESCRIPTION choice, the Mg++ remains my first choice.
A beta blocker like atenolol can be taken with the magnesium oxide with no problem.
A beta blocker like atenolol can be taken with the magnesium oxide with no problem.
thegreattailz
12-26-2005, 01:49 AM
I've got another question, I know you guys aren't doctors. But I've been having these weird pains in my head, in different spots, like sharp pains. I mean, not really painful, but you said a very interesting thing... Like I couldn't find the words to use, but yes, you said shockwave, and that is like what I get, a mini shockwave through my system that kinda heats you up.
Definately not a good thing... Like I said, the past 2 weeks i've had a weird sparratic numbness in my finger tips. It might be something, it might be nothing... I'll definately discuss this with my doctor.
Does it sound like somethings up? Or am I just getting older, and not handling it very well? Maybe this heart thing is something else, more serious. I'm thinking I should get an MRI. Although I had a cat scan 6 months ago, that showed nothing abnormal. Can something that bad change in 6 months?
Definately not a good thing... Like I said, the past 2 weeks i've had a weird sparratic numbness in my finger tips. It might be something, it might be nothing... I'll definately discuss this with my doctor.
Does it sound like somethings up? Or am I just getting older, and not handling it very well? Maybe this heart thing is something else, more serious. I'm thinking I should get an MRI. Although I had a cat scan 6 months ago, that showed nothing abnormal. Can something that bad change in 6 months?
Nariega
12-26-2005, 03:17 AM
Hi, I had never heard of this disorder but it sounds just like what happened to me 20 years ago, in my 20's before they were inventing new diseases to sell you drugs for. i wasted alot of time in e.r.'s and always thought I was going to just drop dead. I finally got a good chiropractor, key word here is good. and a massage therapist who does deep tissue, some b vitamins with minerals. Please try it especially the masseuse. Just be sure to relax relax and enjoy the massage. I hope you will try this 2 or 3 times, you can be suprised what tense muscles will do to your whole body. I hope you try it and let me know. Your too young to feel like this.
ASDGRMama
12-26-2005, 06:24 PM
Nariega...that's an awesome suggestion! My chiropractor combines adjustments with 10 mins. of massage...I loved it and felt better to boot. My 5 kids and I went three times per week all summer but haven't been able to go much since (gas prices mainly). I can tell it's affecting us...after 3 months of going my 9-year old stopped wetting the bed (she has had allergies since 6 months old and started wetting the bed after she was 3). She hasn't gone to the chiro in 4 months and she's wetting the bed again (although still not as often).
It's amazing what chiropractic can help with. It's a good place to start along with the magnesium especially for neurologic symptoms.
Kelly
P.S. You may want go to the neurology forum on these boards and ask your question about the potential for something popping up 6 months after a clear CT.
It's amazing what chiropractic can help with. It's a good place to start along with the magnesium especially for neurologic symptoms.
Kelly
P.S. You may want go to the neurology forum on these boards and ask your question about the potential for something popping up 6 months after a clear CT.
thegreattailz
12-29-2005, 01:03 AM
Okay, the verdict is in. I saw the cardio, the PA said basically I'm fine. I have a strong healthy heart. Which is good. But I immediately told her that's not right, because whatever is happening to me is serious, and severe. She insisted that anything I reported while on the monitor, sometimes a pac was recorded, sometimes I recorded an event when nothing they could detect was going on.
So what exactly is going on? Do I have something totally different than pac's, or do I have something they can't detect? It seems weird, if you have something wrong with the electrical, that's not something you can hear or see... But they're picking nothing up on the monitor. This still isn't right...
So what exactly is going on? Do I have something totally different than pac's, or do I have something they can't detect? It seems weird, if you have something wrong with the electrical, that's not something you can hear or see... But they're picking nothing up on the monitor. This still isn't right...
jenn.e
12-29-2005, 11:17 AM
I used to get those pains in my head too. They are called ice pick headaches, sometimes they would hurt so bad my eyes would water. They are associated with tense muscles and pinched nerves along with tingling in your finger tips and many other symptoms. I really hope that you can learn ways to relax. It sounds like your panic has gotten the best of you. I do it too (read my ablation post :D ).
The sensation of a PAC or PVC is very scary and it's frustrating when a doctor tells you its "normal". It doesnt feel normal and you feel like you are going to drop dead. You asked earlier if it would last forever. Some people yes, others no. There are meds, and like mentioned earlier, ablation. However, excersise does help, alot! It also helps your panic ease, and keeps your heart rate low. It took me 2 weeks of going to the gym before I noticed a difference, so hang in there. Also, Calcium, potassium, and magneisium all work for a smooth heart beat so make sure you are eating balanced meals or try a multi vitamin.
:) Hope you get feeling better
The sensation of a PAC or PVC is very scary and it's frustrating when a doctor tells you its "normal". It doesnt feel normal and you feel like you are going to drop dead. You asked earlier if it would last forever. Some people yes, others no. There are meds, and like mentioned earlier, ablation. However, excersise does help, alot! It also helps your panic ease, and keeps your heart rate low. It took me 2 weeks of going to the gym before I noticed a difference, so hang in there. Also, Calcium, potassium, and magneisium all work for a smooth heart beat so make sure you are eating balanced meals or try a multi vitamin.
:) Hope you get feeling better
bgregory
12-29-2005, 03:17 PM
I understand fully the stress you are going through with your condition. I found out recently that I have an arrythmia. I thought I was going insane, and my husband kept telling me it was only anxiety. I finally insisted on seeing a heart Doctor after the sedative was doing nothing to stop my constant, 24-7 heart palpitations! He did an EKG, and told me I've probably always had this, but wasn't symptomatic until now, and that they will probably never go away! I find it hard to believe, like yourself, that I've always been healthy, something brought these on, and now there's got to be something to either control them or make them dissappear again!! It's absolute torture, I have an idea of what you are going through. They get so bad, I'm afraid to leave my house! It's affecting my work, my husband doesn't understand, it's unbearable! The Doctor put me on a beta blocker, but it's just giving me strange dreams, and not controlling the intense heart palpitations. I'm going back to my family Doc to see about an anti-anxiety medication. I believe anxiety is what brought it on for me. The problem is, most of it is subconscious, so I can't control it, no matter how hard I try. I feel like I'm relaxing when these things come out of nowhere, and I too pound my chest, trying to make them stop! I can't believe that with all of the medications out there, that nothing will control these! The Doctor and everyone else says they are nothing to fear. However, when they start, I go into instant panic, making them worse, because they are so horrible, that even if they aren't going to kill me, I panick wondering how long they will last before I will get a 15 or 30 min. reprieve! I don't understand them, and I just think there has to be a way to control them. I wonder if hypno-therepy would be effective, since nothing else seems to work, and they appear to come from some subconscious level.
thegreattailz
12-31-2005, 05:19 AM
I understand fully the stress you are going through with your condition. I found out recently that I have an arrythmia. I thought I was going insane, and my husband kept telling me it was only anxiety. I finally insisted on seeing a heart Doctor after the sedative was doing nothing to stop my constant, 24-7 heart palpitations! He did an EKG, and told me I've probably always had this, but wasn't symptomatic until now, and that they will probably never go away! I find it hard to believe, like yourself, that I've always been healthy, something brought these on, and now there's got to be something to either control them or make them dissappear again!! It's absolute torture, I have an idea of what you are going through. They get so bad, I'm afraid to leave my house! It's affecting my work, my husband doesn't understand, it's unbearable! The Doctor put me on a beta blocker, but it's just giving me strange dreams, and not controlling the intense heart palpitations. I'm going back to my family Doc to see about an anti-anxiety medication. I believe anxiety is what brought it on for me. The problem is, most of it is subconscious, so I can't control it, no matter how hard I try. I feel like I'm relaxing when these things come out of nowhere, and I too pound my chest, trying to make them stop! I can't believe that with all of the medications out there, that nothing will control these! The Doctor and everyone else says they are nothing to fear. However, when they start, I go into instant panic, making them worse, because they are so horrible, that even if they aren't going to kill me, I panick wondering how long they will last before I will get a 15 or 30 min. reprieve! I don't understand them, and I just think there has to be a way to control them. I wonder if hypno-therepy would be effective, since nothing else seems to work, and they appear to come from some subconscious level.
Well sorry to hear that. I take clonazepam, which helps, a little, try that it's a mild sedative. I think I'm really starting to believe they are benign, annoying, and easily the most uncomfortable thing I've ever felt. It may feel like it will kill you, but it won't. I've heard about alternative medicine. I hear exercise helps, maybe a chairopractor. Perhaps you have too much stress in your life. Try and have someone relieve it with a back or foot rub.
I can't believe I'm actually giving advice when I actually came here to ask it. Well, to me it feels like a 9 volt battery on my heart, or maybe a violent twitching spasm of the muscle. It happens. I don't know much about arrythmias, but my guess is it's probably not life threatening. And once again, I know how you feel. No one else seems to care, or understand. How could they?
Well sorry to hear that. I take clonazepam, which helps, a little, try that it's a mild sedative. I think I'm really starting to believe they are benign, annoying, and easily the most uncomfortable thing I've ever felt. It may feel like it will kill you, but it won't. I've heard about alternative medicine. I hear exercise helps, maybe a chairopractor. Perhaps you have too much stress in your life. Try and have someone relieve it with a back or foot rub.
I can't believe I'm actually giving advice when I actually came here to ask it. Well, to me it feels like a 9 volt battery on my heart, or maybe a violent twitching spasm of the muscle. It happens. I don't know much about arrythmias, but my guess is it's probably not life threatening. And once again, I know how you feel. No one else seems to care, or understand. How could they?
thegreattailz
01-11-2006, 04:15 AM
Bgregory, it sounds like we have the exact problem, no not even your spouse can understand. I'm not sure anti anxiety meds will do the trick. I just took 2 .5 mg of clonazepam and it sparsley worked. I get them about 20 a day. Strangely enough, they occur when I'm tired, lying on my back. They almost never happen during the day. Take this information and try to learn and help others. Take my suggestion, and try to work through it and see if it helps!
If you have any suggestions you can get to work, let me know.
god be with us all
If you have any suggestions you can get to work, let me know.
god be with us all
thegreattailz
01-14-2006, 02:43 AM
anyone? Anyone have any advice?