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thebluedog
12-19-2005, 01:20 AM
I may have the answer for getting rid of toenail fungus. The solution may be to get more probiotics into your diet, i.e. good bacteria. Probiotics can help rid your body of fungus. Yogurt and kefir are very good sources of probiotics. Kefir is the best. Do a google search and see for yourself.
Here's my story...
Just 6 weeks ago I went to a dermatologist to get my big toenail checked out. I was certain I had toenail fungus, but a year ago another dermatologist looked at it and said that it was "nothing". (My big toenail was very ridged and thickened with white spots. My toenail has worsened over the last 5 years.) So, I got a second opinion. The dermatologist immediately said it was toenail fungus. So, he wrote me a prescription for Lamisil. I did some research on Lamisil and decided that I wasn't going to take it b/c of the side effects. So, I did some research and decided I would take a more natural approach. However, I never really came to a decision on which one I would try. Here's how I discovered that maybe probiotics can influence toenail fungus.
I started drinking kefir and eating yogurt for their probiotic health benefits. Ironically, I added yogurt about the time I saw my dermatologist and kefir just weeks ago. Now, it may be just coincidence, but my toenail is starting to grow out perfectly smooth! It's about a third grown out now. I am extremely excited and hope this continues!
Here's a little history of how incorporated kefir and yogurt in my diet:
About 7 weeks ago, I started eating 1 or 2 yogurts per day and about 4 weeks I started drinking kefir. Now, I've only been consistenly drinking 8 ounces of kefir per day for 3 or 4 weeks. I must point out that I only realized that my nail was growing out smoothly and normal looking about a week and a half ago. This is the only thing that I can attribute to the changes in my nail. Nothing else in my diet has changed and I am not taking any prescriptions. I did try probiotic pills about a year ago but didn't take them for very long. In the last two weeks I have added them to my diet, so I don't know if they work as well using yogurt and kefir.
Try it for yourself. Yogurt and kefir are good for you anyway. You can buy kefir at health food grocery stores and at some grocery stores that have health food sections. Or you can make it yourself.

I'll keep you posted on my progress. :bouncing:

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thebluedog
12-28-2005, 02:14 PM
I just wanted to report my progress. My big toe nail is still growing in smoothly and normal looking. It's about 40% grown in now and looking great!
Has anyone tried my suggestion? I'm curious to find out if anyone else will have similiar results. :)

Rhonni
01-01-2006, 07:27 PM
what does kefir taste like? Does it have a nasty taste to it? Were you eating plain yogurt or flavored?

thebluedog
01-07-2006, 03:04 PM
what does kefir taste like? Does it have a nasty taste to it? Were you eating plain yogurt or flavored?

Rhonni,

Kefir tastes similiar to yogurt and its sort of like a drinkable yogurt b/c it's thick. My wife and I think it tastes good plain. However, I add a couple ounces of a concentrated drink, such as cherry, blueberry, or pomegranate.

I mainly eat vanilla flavored yogurt, but you can eat any flavor. It's the quality of the good bacteria/probiotics that are in the yogurt that matter. I eat mostly Stonyfarms and Horizon brands. They are both organic, good quality, and have more active cultures than other brands.

However, I think Kefir is more powerful. Here's more info on Kefir. It's good for so many things...

Kefir's Health Benefits

In addition to kefir's ancient reputation as a healthy drink, it has been famously credited with the extraordinary longevity of people in the Caucasus. Hospitals in the former Soviet Union use kefir-especially when no modern medical treatment is available-to treat conditions ranging from atherosclerosis, allergic disease, metabolic and digestive disorders and tuberculosis to cancer and gastrointestinal disorders.

A number of studies conducted to date have documented kefir's ability to stimulate the immune system, enhance lactose digestion, and inhibit tumors, fungi, and pathogens- including the bacteria that cause most ulcers. This makes a lot of sense as scientists have since discovered that most ulcers are caused by an infection with the bacterium, Helicobacter pylori and not spicy food, stomach acid or stress, as physicians erroneously believed for years.

Scientists are now discovering that a great many inflammatory diseases (including certain types of heart disease) can be triggered by a bacterium. And that provides all the more reason to enjoy kefir as part of your daily diet

thebluedog
01-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Progress report.

My nail is approaching 50% with new perfect growth. I'll keep you posted. I can't wait to see it 100% perfect! :D
Please me know if anyone else is trying my suggestion. I would like to know it helps anyone else.
Thanks

:) :bouncing: :)

thebluedog
01-18-2006, 02:26 AM
My nail is over 50% to 60% grown in now. It looks BEAUTIFUL!

WOW! Is anyone going to try my suggestion?
It's not simply yogurt that is helping...it's the good/healthy bacteria/organisms that are in yogurt that help. And you don't want just any yogurt...you want a good quality yogurt that lists the various strains of good bacteria that's in it. Look for a label that lists the active cultures. One of the brands that I eat has this listed on the label:
CONTAINS: SIX LIVE ACTIVE CULTURES INCLUDING: L. ACIDOPHILUS, BIFIDUS, L. CASEI, AND L. REUTERI.

And don't forget the granddaddy of probiotics/good bacteria/organisms>>KEFIR. I know, I'm like most people reading this...I had never heard of kefir until a few months ago.
Traditional kefir is prepared by combining fresh milk with the Kefir culture made up of yeasts and lactic acid bacteria. Kefir's live culture has been claimed to have health benefits similar to that of yogurt.
Remember: You can buy kefir from a grocery store or make it yourself.

Here are list of some of the cultures found in Kefir.

The exact combination of bacteria and yeasts vary between kefir cultures, and might include: Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis, Lactococcus lactis subsp. Cremoris, Lactococcus lactis subsp. Diacetylactis, Leuconostoc mesenteroides subsp. Cremoris, Lactobacillus kefyr, Klyveromyces marxianus var. Marxianus, and Saccaromyces unisporus.

These names don't make sense to me either, but I know they're good for you.
I'm in shock myself...that this is what helped rid me of toenail fungus. I'm very curious to find out if it helps someone else. I am eating 2 good quality yogurts, 8 ounces of kefir, and taking a probiotic supplement each day.

Best of Health and get rid of that toenail fungus! :bouncing:

KannD86
02-01-2006, 02:39 PM
I used to eat yogurt every day when I heard about the benefits dairy has with weight loss. I think it was starting to have some effect, but I couldn't stand the yogurt after a while. I really don't like the taste of it, no matter what flavor or style. The only thing I sort of like is the Stony something organic smoothies. Not enough to drink it every day though.

Anyway, can the taste of Kefir be disguised to taste good/not like yogurt? I just noticed what I think is a fungus under one toenail and I'd like to do whatever it takes to get rid of it. This sounds like a good home remedy, but I won't force myself to eat something I dislike no matter how good it is for me.

thebluedog
02-02-2006, 02:20 AM
Anyway, can the taste of Kefir be disguised to taste good/not like yogurt? I just noticed what I think is a fungus under one toenail and I'd like to do whatever it takes to get rid of it. This sounds like a good home remedy, but I won't force myself to eat something I dislike no matter how good it is for me.

I mix 2 ounces of blueberry concentrate(it's all natural) to 8 ounces of kefir. It tastes very good. You can also make smoothies using kefir. Just mix your favorite fruit with kefir in a blender.

Let me know what you think. I hope this helps. :)

teelow
02-10-2006, 05:00 PM
I've Had Nail Fungus For A Few Yrs Now And It's Getting Worse And Worse. It's Horribly Embarrasing. Painful, And Nasty! I Was On Lamisil For 7 Months, No Side Effects Thankfully. But After 7 Months I Saw No Difference/improvment At All. And My Extended Medical Didn'y Cover It, It Was Terribly Expensive. So I Quit Last Month. I Eat 1 Cup Of Yogurt Every Day, But I Will Increase It, And Check Into This Drink. Thanks For The Info, Hope It Works For Me Keep Your Finger Double Crossed Lol. I Took Some before Photos, So After 6-8 Weeks I'll Take Some More And We'll See What It Shows! I Also Soak My Toes In Vinegar (recently Started) It Takes Months To See A Diff But It Does Work. (did It Once Before When Only One Toes Was Affected, Then Got Lazy And Didn't Continue) Although My Toes Smell Constantly Of Vinegar! Lol It's Twice A Day Until Nail Grows Out Completely, Plus Another 4 Weeks Or So Maybe To Prvent More Growth.

Damn Fungus!

Thanks Again

thebluedog
02-10-2006, 06:50 PM
I hope it works for you, teelow. I know it's frustrating. Make sure that you eat a good quality yogurt that has a lot of live cultures.

Progress Report
My nail is 70% grown in now. It's looks really good! I can't wait until it's fully grown in. I am still eating 2 good quality yogurts per day and drinking 8 ounces of kefir. Sometimes, I'll only eat one yogurt, but I try to stay consistent. I have added a good quality probiotic supplement to my daily regimen.

Yogurt can do amazing things. It's seems too simple, but it works. My wife's friend is using yogurt to treat a yeast infection. :D

roxyfoxy
02-20-2006, 12:39 PM
Couldn't you take acidophilous?

thebluedog
02-25-2006, 02:28 PM
Couldn't you take acidophilous?

Roxy,

It wouldn't hurt to try. However, acidophilous is just one strain of good bacteria. I don't know if taking acidophilous alone would help get rid of toenail fungus. There are probiotic supplements that have multiple strains of good bacteria. Generally, supplements are NOT as good as the "real thing". I think that yogurt and kefir are probably much more effective than taking a supplement probiotic. The kefir that I drink has 10 different live cultures and I recently switched to a yogurt that has 8 different live cultures.
Honestly, I haven't been as consistent as I was with eating 2 yogurts and 8 ounces of Kefir per day. That said, my nail is still growing out perfectly healthy. :)

emn3
03-04-2006, 07:47 AM
thebluedog,
I had read your post with interest a few weeks ago after doing a google search for kefir and toenail fungus.
My saga: I had the fungus for several years without knowing what it was. I thought my big toenail was yellow from being discolored by nail polish. It became thicker over the years and the same thing started happening to my other big toe. That was basically the only two symptons for 5 or more years. Then two summers ago I had a terrible case of athelete's foot. Gradually my two nails started turning brown (small spot)with the telltale debris under the nail. Went to derm and was told it was a fungus--given a prescription for lamisil--worried about liver damage--started looking into natural cures. I started soaking my feet in vinegar and rubbing them with vicks at night and, sure enough, the nails started to clear. I did not fully research the cures, nor was I researching the susceptibility factors for this fungus. As summer was approaching, I stupidly polished my toenails and got lazy about soaking. Of course, the fungus started creeping back toward the nailbed, but was hidden by polish, so I didn't realize what was happening. What an idiot!
Back to sqare one: For years, I was a carbohydrate "junkie". Although not overweight, my diet was loaded with lots of white flour, cereals, and the like. I had symptons of candida, and started looking into probiotics. Cleaned up my diet gradually and started drinking kefir about a week ago. I started using vinegar again religiously about two months ago. There is now about a 1/4 inch of white at the base of my nail. I am also taking an anti-fungal from the health food store. I have also read that horsetail supplements will help with hair and nail growth, so I will start taking that as well as soon as I get to the store.
I have also read with interest about the thymol, and will consider purchasing some if the current protocol does not work.
I will keep you posted. Your nails seem to grow very quickily--did they grow as quickly before the kefir?
There are many, many testimonials on the web regarding vinegar, and I had some previous success with it, so I'll try again. The key, apparently, is not to miss one day of application, and it must be done twice a day--approx. 12 hours apart.
I'm interested in your progress!

thebluedog
03-08-2006, 10:34 PM
emn3

I'm glad you found my post. What made you think to search for "kefir and toenail fungus"?

It's interesting that you mention candida. Because candida is a fungal infection. I have read that there is connection with candida and toenail fungus. I'm currently doing further investigation and will post some of my research later.

My nails seems to grow fairly quickly.

Progress report: My nail is currently 80% grown in and still growing in perfectly. I'm still eating yogurt and drinking kefir, however, I do miss a day here and there. But, that doesn't seem to effect my new nail growth.

Keep me posted emn3. :)

emn3
03-11-2006, 08:18 AM
I'm glad to hear your nail is almost clear! It's hard to believe that just yogurt and kefir seem to be helping. I can't remember exactly where I read it, but I recalled that probiotics help clear the body of fungal infections. One suggestion was to drink kefir due to the large number of probiotics in an 8 oz serving. That was when I thought to do a search on kefir and tonenail fungus to see what I'd find.

I'm actually using the vinegar, as I mentioned, but only 2 drops on each nail--not soaking as I had done before. I decided to start with kefir and yogurt as an addition to a heathy diet. The nails started clearing before the kefir, but I figured it couldn't hurt. I am seeing results!

The most difficult part of this process is finding out what works for you. It seems everyone swears by one remedy or another, but all fungal infections are different. I know a lot of people who have gone the drug route only to become reinfected--that, coupled with potential liver damage sent me to the web in search of a natural cure.

I'll keep you posted.
emn3

thebluedog
03-11-2006, 12:15 PM
emn3

I'm glad you're seeing some results! Make sure keep me abreast on your progress. :)

bd

Stumper
03-12-2006, 10:18 PM
Bluedog,


Actually Kefir has been known and considered by many legends to be the ancient Biblical Manna. If you have the grains you can get a constant supply FOREVER.

Lenin knows a great deal about Kefir. Very interesting tha it is helping your toenail fungus. I love yogurt and actually one should eat some every day. It is like adding yeast to a septic tank (our gut).

emn3
04-04-2006, 07:22 AM
Just a follow up: My toenails are growing in pink and look healthy. I put two drops of vinegar morning and night and have been drinking 8 oz. of kefir a day. I don't know whether it's the vinegar or kefir, but it's working! One nail is 2/3 clear, the other is a little less. I have been applying the vinegar to all my nails and have noticed that the white tips are turning whiter, especially on the unaffected nails. Apparently the vinegar is changing the ph of the nails, which is what I have read. I'm leaving for the bahamas next week, but will NOT be polishing my nails. Oh well.... Slip on sandals for me!

Pamela20
04-13-2006, 08:55 PM
Since iv'e been using the vinegar on my toenail it has turned my whole nail yellow. Are you supposed to use the distilled vinegar or the apple cidar?

emn3
04-18-2006, 10:29 PM
I use distilled vinegar--the cheap stuff--69 cents a bottle.

dbarber
04-22-2006, 05:52 PM
Looks like I am going to try Kefir as well....I eat yogurt but sporatically..oddy enough my nails seem to get better and worse sporatically. You can read my post "Koilonychia or Fungus? - Very Painful"

I will post as soon as I can tell a difference.

tbf210
04-24-2006, 07:59 PM
Blue dog...what were the side effects of lamisil. I have the same problem that you did. I heard that putting vicks vapor rub on it would help. I have been doing this for a month and no change. I have not gone to a doctor yet, but it would be interesting to know the side effects that you found out. I think I am going to try the yogart thing.

Thanks

MARYSCHILD
05-18-2006, 11:02 AM
Blue,

It's been a few months since you've written about your progress. How does your nail look, now??

thebluedog
05-21-2006, 02:04 AM
Blue dog...what were the side effects of lamisil. I have the same problem that you did. I heard that putting vicks vapor rub on it would help. I have been doing this for a month and no change. I have not gone to a doctor yet, but it would be interesting to know the side effects that you found out. I think I am going to try the yogart thing.

Thanks

There are a # of side effects. The one that concerned me the most was the potential for liver damage or liver failure. It's stated that in rare cases people have had liver damage or failure. I just didn't want to take a drug that could have potential to damage my liver. Your doctor should test your liver to make sure it's healthy. People with a "sick" liver are more at risk. Besides, I try to avoid drugs if at all possible.
Any luck with the vapor rub and have you tried getting probiotics in your diet?
I'll post my progress in my response to the next question. :)

thebluedog
05-21-2006, 02:18 AM
Blue,

It's been a few months since you've written about your progress. How does your nail look, now??

I'm sorry that I have not given an update. Well, my nail still looks good but not as good as it should. Here's what happened...
When I began my experiment, I was eating 2 yogurts per day and later added kefir. By the way, I tried a different brand of kefir thinking all kefir tasted similiar...not true! Lifeway brand is so much better tasting than Helios.
Ok, back to the story. So, at that time my nail was looking great and improving every day until finally, it had grown 95% perfect - no white marks - completely smooth. About that time, I took a trip to LA and then Maui. That's when I broke my routine of taking in probiotics (yogurt and kefir). Besides, my nail was looking great, so I thought I was safe by missing my daily intake of probiotics. Since I've been back from trip (5 weeks now), my nail is starting to show some white marks. It's still looks great, but showing some white marks. Lately, I've only been eating 1 yogurt about every other day. Here's my conclusion: My nail is regressing b/c I've been missing my intake of daily probiotics. So, I'm going to restart my intake of probiotics and post later with my progress.
Has anyone else tried my suggestion and had any progress?

:)

thebluedog
05-21-2006, 02:24 AM
Just a follow up: My toenails are growing in pink and look healthy. I put two drops of vinegar morning and night and have been drinking 8 oz. of kefir a day. I don't know whether it's the vinegar or kefir, but it's working! One nail is 2/3 clear, the other is a little less. I have been applying the vinegar to all my nails and have noticed that the white tips are turning whiter, especially on the unaffected nails. Apparently the vinegar is changing the ph of the nails, which is what I have read. I'm leaving for the bahamas next week, but will NOT be polishing my nails. Oh well.... Slip on sandals for me!

So, give me an update. How are your nails looking? I hope you had a great trip!
:)

pistachio
06-13-2006, 12:04 AM
I was wondering.... do you think it would help adding just yogurt to my diet...I'm not sure if what i have is a fungus but it couldnt hurt trying somthing that simple...

thebluedog
06-13-2006, 02:03 AM
I was wondering.... do you think it would help adding just yogurt to my diet...I'm not sure if what i have is a fungus but it couldnt hurt trying somthing that simple...

It might help...it certainly couldn't hurt. Try to eat at least 2 good quality yogurts per day. Good luck and report back. :)

TamWasHere
06-27-2006, 02:28 AM
I drink kefir every morning, and eat good quality yorgurt and take acdepholus (sp?) I have been doing it daily for almost three weeks.

Here is my honest opinion. I am doing the kefir/yogurt thing on the advice of my physician, to prevent yeast infections. If many dr's say it will prevent/help yeast infections, then I can see that it might help toenail fungus also.

My tonails still look bad, I am using vinegar on them also (strangely enough Dr's recommend vinegar for yeast infections), and I do have one toe I am finally seeing pink on. I cannot say for sure if it is the vinegar or the kefir, or maybe both, but I think something is working.

I also agree, not all kefir is created equal, I prefer Lifeway it is tasty! :)

I will report back if I have anymore progress.

NightHawk2810
08-01-2006, 03:48 PM
I have toenail fungus as well. I think I got it from an injury to my toe while playing hockey - the injury caused my toenail to fall out and when it grew back it didn't look normal. I didn't think anything of it until I noticed that both of my big toes and second toes had this strange look. I went to see a foot specialist and he prescribed Penlac. I tried this for about 9 months or so and it didn't seem to do any good. Then I went to my family doctor and he prescribed Lamisil. This seemed to have killed the fungus in the nail bed but the nails on both my big toes still looks bad. It could be from filing the nails down. I have been soaking my feet in vinager and putting tea tree oil on them every day. How long does it take for a toe nail to grow out? Is there anything that I can do to speed the process up? Will the yogurt help clear the colour up a little more? I would really like to not have to wear socks and shoes in the summer. I want to wear sandles but I don't want anyone to see my feet. Any suggestions? Any help you can give me will be appreciated.
Thanks

TamWasHere
08-03-2006, 12:06 AM
Nighthawk: Using vinegar and tea tree oil together are not a good idea. A very experienced poster named Marti on this board said that it is bad to use vinegar if you do not have an active fungal infection. (it turned my nails white). My only suggestion would be stop the vinegar and use the tea tree oil.

I take Kefir and yogurt daily, and wow my nails grow alot faster. (it also wiped out my fungal infection, I got my nail clipping results today and they were good). Add a bowl of jello regular or sugar free to your diet and that will really get those tonails growing.

My poditrist said to used tea tree oil to thin the nails and help them look better.

I am still looking for the secret to making ugly nails with no more fungus look good again. If I find the answer I will be happy to share the information!





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