i think i naturally feel anxiety all day without even thinking about it because thats just the way my brain is working. is it possible for your mind to think something without actually thinking about it? i think thats called subconciously. i actually dont have panic attacks anymore, but i feel symptoms of anxiety throughout the entire day. how can you reverse the way you think when its subconcious? medication seems to be the only way to do that? anyone else understand this?

What type of smptoms are you experiencing? Mine was breathing,,, went to er last night, everything was fine!!! Didn't check my head though so of course today I am so DIZZY!!!!! Don't understand it,,

That sounds normal. For me it is almost like if I don't have anxiety it feels like something is wrong. Try and distract yourself during the day.

Heh yeah, got chest pains/shortness of breath/palpitations daily. :bouncing:

i think i naturally feel anxiety all day without even thinking about it because thats just the way my brain is working. is it possible for your mind to think something without actually thinking about it? i think thats called subconciously. i actually dont have panic attacks anymore, but i feel symptoms of anxiety throughout the entire day. how can you reverse the way you think when its subconcious? medication seems to be the only way to do that? anyone else understand this?

This is a good thread. It's something I've been thinking about for 5 years. It seems like all psychiatric disorders are some kind of biological defect of the mind or brain. That's why so many people need medication to alter the chemistry or shake things up in the mind to change our perceptions on reality. The only problem is that it's hard to create new medications when we don't know what is the cause of these disorders in the first place. I'm not sure we'll ever know. It's almost like taking an asprin for a headache. We know it works but don't know the cause.

Great thread. I believe it's subconscious thoughts of dread and death and anything that's scary. I get a "feeling" of dread, and then it just takes over even though I wasn't thinking about anything bad consciously. But, it probably starts with thinking of dreadful negative things, and seeing them on TV over and over that puts it in our subconscious. Then the subconscious just seems to take over. It's like your body is in a constant state of fear and you can't get out of it. But, I think you can by reprogramming the negative into positive, but easier said than done. A lot of work and repetition and making sure you start to change the negative ways you look at things. I find that these drug commercials on TV are part of the culprit. Not only do they scare you into thinking you might have something, they give you all the symptoms and side effects of the drugs, and it just goes on and on. I've stopped watching them, I pause them or mute them. The evening news is always coming up with some way to scare you about your health. And if you don't find it in those places, it's all over the internet. It's everywhere, so is it any wonder that we'd have reactions to it? When your brain is bombarded with illnesses and all the symptoms constantly, is it any surprise? Every day I see something on the internet or TV about a heart attack. LOL! It's crazy.
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That's an interesting point. But, it seems like as long as man walked the earth, there were problems with depression, anxiety and all different types of psychiatric disorders. Treatments of a long time ago would be looked at as barbaric, cruel and inhumane by today's standards. For me personally, I like all the media attention focused on these drugs and the disorders they treat. I don't feel so alone.

It's like we're living in a science age. Humans are looking for answers as to why we suffer the way we do. All of the information you read about as far as medications and side effects are concerned are just a result of more advanced technology and science.

It can hurt or it could help. It depends how you look at it. The media is a pain in the neck, but it's better than insane asylums and quarentines. But when you take a medication, it is like doing a scientific experiment on yourself, using trustworthy chemicals made in laboratories by modern day scientists. The use of these drugs has been very much comercialized. This is because so many people are suffering and looking for answers. We then turn to science for the answers and everyone comes on the boards and discusses their progressions and results of their scientific experiment. If it is bothering you, the best thing to do is like you said, tune off.

Well yes, there's always the good/bad about everything. Living in a war zone could cause the same thing, but then the fear would be realistic, so the symptoms would make more sense. It's great to be informed, but sometimes it is too much of a good thing! I just saw a commercial about Bayer Aspirin saying if you take it during a heart attack it could save your life. LOL! I try to turn them off, but there's just too many to catch them all. I just think they use way too many scare tactics and it helps to get your mind going. There are also many many other reasons though that we don't understand, I agree. Both of my parents have been very ill the last year and I've spent half my year at the hospital. Between that and all the medical stuff on TV, I just don't want to see anymore! :cool:

Well yes, there's always the good/bad about everything. Living in a war zone could cause the same thing, but then the fear would be realistic, so the symptoms would make more sense. It's great to be informed, but sometimes it is too much of a good thing! I just saw a commercial about Bayer Aspirin saying if you take it during a heart attack it could save your life. LOL! I try to turn them off, but there's just too many to catch them all. I just think they use way too many scare tactics and it helps to get your mind going. There are also many many other reasons though that we don't understand, I agree. Both of my parents have been very ill the last year and I've spent half my year at the hospital. Between that and all the medical stuff on TV, I just don't want to see anymore! :cool:

I'm sorry to hear about your parents.

best wishes

i think i naturally feel anxiety all day without even thinking about it because thats just the way my brain is working. is it possible for your mind to think something without actually thinking about it? i think thats called subconciously. i actually dont have panic attacks anymore, but i feel symptoms of anxiety throughout the entire day. how can you reverse the way you think when its subconcious? medication seems to be the only way to do that? anyone else understand this?

Meditation can help. Start thinking about things you would be doing if you didn't have anxiety and change your life pattern and thought pattern by doing them instead of letting symptoms stop you. that will only make you more depressed and more anxious.

i had a long chat about htis with my psychologist .. and he said yes, that is exactly what is happening - you are subconciously thinking these things, even though you don't realize you are

What I'm wondering is: Which comes first: the feelings of anxiety or the thoughts?
Without medication, I wake up every morning with a feeling of dread followed by thoughts of what things I currently have to dread.
The medication allows me to not dwell on those thoughts.