mike j
01-02-2006, 03:29 AM
Last night for the new year I had my sister and nephew over for the new year.
I went to get my OxyContin this morning and it was gone!!!
I keep it in my kitchen cabinet. I took my last dose at 11 o'clock last night. When I get up this morning to get my medication it was all gone. I still have my breakthrough medication,Dilaudid.it was not bothered. Only the OxyContin 40 mg tablets. Two weeks supply worth.
I told my mother about the incident she told Me to take the police report and call my sister and let her know about the situation.
I cannot call the police. I'm quite sure that my nephew took the medication. My sister told me there's an epidemic in the high school .students are going through their families medicine chest in search of narcotics especially OxyContin.My nephew is currently on Ritalin
She told me she was very concerned about my nephew possibly abusing medication. She talked to the guidance counselor about the situation. as well as the school nurse. The school nurse had a very interesting observation about students who are taking Ritalin she has noticed that the kids who were on Ritalin seemed to have a high rate of abusing drugs especially prescription.I wonder if anybody else has heard of this???
I do not want to call the police and take a report. I can make it by on my breakthrough medication. This will be very difficult but I can manage.
I know to keep the medication under lock and key. I would never think my nephew would do this. I do not want to call the police. I am very afraid about the dose of medication that could kill him.are his friends.
I called his cell phone and left a message about the medication and the danger involved. I told him if I get the medication back by tomorrow I would not call the police. I also told him I would not tell a sister about the situation.
I hope and pray that he gives the medication back to me. I cannot tell my sister this would kill her. I am so confused what to do with the situation.I will wait till noon tomorrow and then make a decision. I know my mom is correct. I wish I did not have to deal with this. Does anybody have any suggestions please let me know.
Thank you for your time and suggestions :confused:
I went to get my OxyContin this morning and it was gone!!!
I keep it in my kitchen cabinet. I took my last dose at 11 o'clock last night. When I get up this morning to get my medication it was all gone. I still have my breakthrough medication,Dilaudid.it was not bothered. Only the OxyContin 40 mg tablets. Two weeks supply worth.
I told my mother about the incident she told Me to take the police report and call my sister and let her know about the situation.
I cannot call the police. I'm quite sure that my nephew took the medication. My sister told me there's an epidemic in the high school .students are going through their families medicine chest in search of narcotics especially OxyContin.My nephew is currently on Ritalin
She told me she was very concerned about my nephew possibly abusing medication. She talked to the guidance counselor about the situation. as well as the school nurse. The school nurse had a very interesting observation about students who are taking Ritalin she has noticed that the kids who were on Ritalin seemed to have a high rate of abusing drugs especially prescription.I wonder if anybody else has heard of this???
I do not want to call the police and take a report. I can make it by on my breakthrough medication. This will be very difficult but I can manage.
I know to keep the medication under lock and key. I would never think my nephew would do this. I do not want to call the police. I am very afraid about the dose of medication that could kill him.are his friends.
I called his cell phone and left a message about the medication and the danger involved. I told him if I get the medication back by tomorrow I would not call the police. I also told him I would not tell a sister about the situation.
I hope and pray that he gives the medication back to me. I cannot tell my sister this would kill her. I am so confused what to do with the situation.I will wait till noon tomorrow and then make a decision. I know my mom is correct. I wish I did not have to deal with this. Does anybody have any suggestions please let me know.
Thank you for your time and suggestions :confused:
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MizLiz
01-02-2006, 04:57 AM
oh my. First of all I am glad that you have your breakthrough meds to get by. Unfortunately I think that tough love may be the most responsible route for several reasons. The most loving thing you can do for your nephew is to follow through. Report him if necessary, call the school counselor, talk to your sister, whatever it takes. Both him and his mother may be terribly upset but think of the possibilities if you dont turn him in. If your nephew has a drug problem you could be enabling him and denying him the opportunity to get help before it gets out of control. Another thought is that if you dont turn him in his behavior could escalate. If he is dealing then he will continue to seek out the drugs for money. If he's stealing from family members how long before he steals from strangers? a pharmacy? other drug users? He could be headed to dangerous situations and you might be the person to help him before its too late. Of course he will not see it this way. Teenagers often make choices without forethought of the consequences. He has to learn that this is not ok and he cant get away with it. For his safety and for the other students. As a parent of 2 teenagers I feel that adults need to help guide these young adults. They will make mistakes, yes. But adults need to step in when their safety is at risk. You know the saying..."It takes a village...blah blah blah" But really as parents we cant always know what our teens are up to. We rely on other caring adults to inform us.
You did the right thing by confronting him. Now please follow through. Also, if my child had stolen medications I would want to know. Be brave and please tell your sister. I understand how very hard that will be but it is absolutely necessary.
I hope I didnt come across as too strong but this is something I feel passionate about because I am a parent. I am so sorry you were put in this predicament but remember it is not your fault. Your nephew needs to know that HIS actions caused all this, not yours. Good luck. I am sure you will get lots of advice here, good luck with your decision. Keep the faith. Liz
You did the right thing by confronting him. Now please follow through. Also, if my child had stolen medications I would want to know. Be brave and please tell your sister. I understand how very hard that will be but it is absolutely necessary.
I hope I didnt come across as too strong but this is something I feel passionate about because I am a parent. I am so sorry you were put in this predicament but remember it is not your fault. Your nephew needs to know that HIS actions caused all this, not yours. Good luck. I am sure you will get lots of advice here, good luck with your decision. Keep the faith. Liz
MizLiz
01-02-2006, 05:14 AM
p.s.
as far as kids who use Ritilin often abusing drugs... IMO and from speaking to several other parents, and being a parent of a child with ADD Yes it is true. But not because of the Ritilin. Children/teens/adults who have to deal with the symptoms of ADD many times will self medicate either through alcohol or drugs to help calm their difficult lives. I have seen many many families dealing with the issue. Sometimes their medications no longer are effective or inappropriate or they get better relief from other means. If your nephew is one of the statistics maybe you can help him. Again, good luck. Liz
as far as kids who use Ritilin often abusing drugs... IMO and from speaking to several other parents, and being a parent of a child with ADD Yes it is true. But not because of the Ritilin. Children/teens/adults who have to deal with the symptoms of ADD many times will self medicate either through alcohol or drugs to help calm their difficult lives. I have seen many many families dealing with the issue. Sometimes their medications no longer are effective or inappropriate or they get better relief from other means. If your nephew is one of the statistics maybe you can help him. Again, good luck. Liz
feelbad
01-02-2006, 11:24 AM
Good answer liz,i totally agree here.this child quite obviously has a huge problem that needs swift and direct attention.You DO need to speak with his mother regardless of how she will take the news.this IS a very dangerous med that you need to get back.Hopefully he will heed your warning and do the right thing.You also HAVE to keep your meds under lock and key and give no one any access to your meds,regardless of who you think you can trust.You just never know who will decide they need your meds more than you do.this child needs help.i wish you luck with this situation.please let us know how things are going.hope your pain stays on the low end til you can at least get your next fill.I am truely sorry for what you are having to endure.Marcia
Fabrashamx
01-02-2006, 01:19 PM
Mike, I am so sorry this happened to you. I would like to point out that even if you don't have a lock box for you meds, it would help a LOT not to store them in a room where guests can be by themselves without comment, like the kitchen or the bathroom. Especially the bathroom, they can go in there and lock the door and snoop at leisure. It would be much much more difficult for a casual visitor to say, go into your bedroom and start going through drawers and closets. I keep my meds in a box on my closet shelf, and the door sticks a little. I have 2 teenagers and they are great kids, but they have lots of friends and you never know. I strongly agree that the reason kids on ritalin are more likely to abuse medications are that they are self medicating because they have mental and emotional problems. My husband is bi-polar and he self medicated for years before he was diagnosed and treated. Your plan to confront your nephew seems to be a good one, But I would think long and hard about maybe reporting him. If someone O.D.'s and it comes out it came from you, however unwillingly, you could be in danger of losing your pain management, and that would be grossly unfair. I know you don't want to get your nephew in trouble, but if he is willing to steal his uncles badly needed pain meds, He's already in trouble, IMHO. good luck and let us know how it works out. Your Friend, Fabby :wave:
wolfmarket
01-02-2006, 05:12 PM
If you want a replacement script from your Doc, you MUST get a police report.
This kid had no feelings for you when he grabbed your meds, why should you even give him a second thought.
This is not a joke-it is a serious matter that actually has repercussions for all of us CP'ers. Docs are worried about diversion, here is an example of it.
Do the right thing and call the police!
Alan
This kid had no feelings for you when he grabbed your meds, why should you even give him a second thought.
This is not a joke-it is a serious matter that actually has repercussions for all of us CP'ers. Docs are worried about diversion, here is an example of it.
Do the right thing and call the police!
Alan
catnap
01-02-2006, 05:49 PM
Hi Mike J,
Really sorry for what happened. Got to be a painful situation, but you are not doing the boy or his family any favors by not telling at least his mother about what he took from you. I understand we think we can trust family members, but sadly is not true in all families. He didn't think about you or your pain or what it might do to you if he took your meds. Very dangerous to a opiate-naive person. This could kill him or anyone else that might get their hands on it. What then? How would his mother feel about your not telling her if he were to od on the drug. The table could be turned and worse to think there might be charges brought on you.
It's your call and a tough one indeed.
Good luck to you,
Carol
Really sorry for what happened. Got to be a painful situation, but you are not doing the boy or his family any favors by not telling at least his mother about what he took from you. I understand we think we can trust family members, but sadly is not true in all families. He didn't think about you or your pain or what it might do to you if he took your meds. Very dangerous to a opiate-naive person. This could kill him or anyone else that might get their hands on it. What then? How would his mother feel about your not telling her if he were to od on the drug. The table could be turned and worse to think there might be charges brought on you.
It's your call and a tough one indeed.
Good luck to you,
Carol
catsblueeyes1
01-02-2006, 06:42 PM
Dear Mike,
After reading your post It reminded me of a situation that happened to my mom. She had her percocets in her medicine cabinet and there are no children or teens around so she did not think that she had to keep them under lock and key. Well, my brother was dating a woman that while they were visiting my parents decided to use the bathroom, my mom had a weird
feeling so she decided to follow her. She could hear her opening up the cabinet (luckly her door lock was broken) my mom open the door and caught her helping herself to her meds. you can never me to careful! As far as your nephew is concerned reporting him will probably save his life. It won't get better on it's own, if he is stealing from you I can promise you he has done this before and he is in grave danger to himself and his family. I know this is
so difficult but your love for him means to nip this in the bud!! Once it is out in the open then he can get the help that he needs. Even if he returns the meds I still would give him some tough love and report this to his mom and the police. Good luck, it is so hard when things like this happen to people we love.
Deb
After reading your post It reminded me of a situation that happened to my mom. She had her percocets in her medicine cabinet and there are no children or teens around so she did not think that she had to keep them under lock and key. Well, my brother was dating a woman that while they were visiting my parents decided to use the bathroom, my mom had a weird
feeling so she decided to follow her. She could hear her opening up the cabinet (luckly her door lock was broken) my mom open the door and caught her helping herself to her meds. you can never me to careful! As far as your nephew is concerned reporting him will probably save his life. It won't get better on it's own, if he is stealing from you I can promise you he has done this before and he is in grave danger to himself and his family. I know this is
so difficult but your love for him means to nip this in the bud!! Once it is out in the open then he can get the help that he needs. Even if he returns the meds I still would give him some tough love and report this to his mom and the police. Good luck, it is so hard when things like this happen to people we love.
Deb
curiousforever
01-02-2006, 08:04 PM
I agree. Definately not an easy of fun thing-but the right thing is to get on the horn. If not to the police--at the VERY least-to his mom. Somebody could end up losing his life from the meds they took from you...and that isn't something I'd want on my conscience...quick intervention could prevent that.
FairyMagick
01-02-2006, 08:30 PM
Hi,
I agree with the other posters. I know it is easy to say report a family member if there not your family,but it is the best thing for him. What if he continues to steal and does this to someone else and ends up in jail for it? Or gives it to one of his friend and he or a friend ods. He must have a problem to steal from you. He needs help. I'm so sorry this happened to you. I would also recommend telling his mother first, but she my take his side if he wont admit to taking your meds. But she really needs to know.
I agree with the other posters. I know it is easy to say report a family member if there not your family,but it is the best thing for him. What if he continues to steal and does this to someone else and ends up in jail for it? Or gives it to one of his friend and he or a friend ods. He must have a problem to steal from you. He needs help. I'm so sorry this happened to you. I would also recommend telling his mother first, but she my take his side if he wont admit to taking your meds. But she really needs to know.
Josie115
01-02-2006, 09:50 PM
I am sorry that you are faced with this situation. It is not that uncommon unfortunately and there are so many consequences to this that are so dangerous. I have had this happen to me three times. (you'd think I'd learn)...Every time it happened I was shocked.. The first time I had a feeling and I hid the meds. I thought I'd hid them well enough. Nope. The second time, they happened to be sitting out (hadn't put them away and I live alone). This person had had a drug problem and was telling me a long story about having gone to rehab, how long a process it had been and how he now worked for an agency that helped guys that were in rehab find housing, etc. I was actually donating something for a fundraiser for this program he was working with. Boy was I taken to the cleaners on this. I went to the kitchen to make some tea and he took some. I didn't notice how many but he got some. Problem was, he saw the same doctors I did and for whatever reason..(maybe they drug tested him), he told them he got them from me. I have a very good relationship with my doctor but it put me in jeopordy, it is now been noted in my chart and I was asked to do a test..to see that I did have this med in my system. I did but too many folks are selling their meds. The third time was my cousin who had come to take care of me after surgery.
Here is my point. An addict is an addict and will steal, buy, take, or whatever to get them. Now he knows that you have them. Maybe he sold some, and now maybe someone else knows you have them. Before my experience, I had never known this happens. It's a huge problem. It's huge for us who are in chronic pain, it's huge for the doctors who are trying to treat us, and it's huge for those addicted who often end up overdosing or dying. He will continue to do this until it stops. More than likely it will not be by his choice. Something will happen to cause him to get help. I know it's tough but you have a chance to try to help him, to help his mother realize that the problem is real, and to get help before he has other offenses that will just land him in jail (or worse). He still could get help now, before worse things happen.
How would you feel if he overdoses? Maybe not now, but in a month, or week? Or, is caught stealing from some dealers...? This is a nasty, terrible, difficult disease that is spreading across this country. It's bigger than us and ignoring it and hoping it goes away does not get anyone anywhere. Be brave and help your nephew. I know that we can only do what we can do, and it takes courage.. good luck. I hope for you that your pain is manageable. Like someone else said, he sure put you in a bad situation.. more complicated than he probably could have ever realized.
Here is my point. An addict is an addict and will steal, buy, take, or whatever to get them. Now he knows that you have them. Maybe he sold some, and now maybe someone else knows you have them. Before my experience, I had never known this happens. It's a huge problem. It's huge for us who are in chronic pain, it's huge for the doctors who are trying to treat us, and it's huge for those addicted who often end up overdosing or dying. He will continue to do this until it stops. More than likely it will not be by his choice. Something will happen to cause him to get help. I know it's tough but you have a chance to try to help him, to help his mother realize that the problem is real, and to get help before he has other offenses that will just land him in jail (or worse). He still could get help now, before worse things happen.
How would you feel if he overdoses? Maybe not now, but in a month, or week? Or, is caught stealing from some dealers...? This is a nasty, terrible, difficult disease that is spreading across this country. It's bigger than us and ignoring it and hoping it goes away does not get anyone anywhere. Be brave and help your nephew. I know that we can only do what we can do, and it takes courage.. good luck. I hope for you that your pain is manageable. Like someone else said, he sure put you in a bad situation.. more complicated than he probably could have ever realized.
wolfmarket
01-03-2006, 02:19 AM
You know, if you do not get a police report, if your Nephew OD's or if he sells or gives the meds to someone who OD's, you can be held responsible and be charged with a crime.
It is NOT worth it for you to protect this punk! We are talking about your life, your pain and your future.
His mother must be told.
For your sake, pick up the phone and report this now!
Alan
It is NOT worth it for you to protect this punk! We are talking about your life, your pain and your future.
His mother must be told.
For your sake, pick up the phone and report this now!
Alan
Terri43
01-03-2006, 10:59 AM
The first thing I would do is call my sister and tell her what happened then talk to the nephew and let him know you are thinking of calling the police. That might scare him into fessing up. Then you need to get a lock box and hide the lock box. I have 2 teenage sons that come every other weekend. I trust them and know they would never take my meds because they know without them I would suffer with the pain. but I live in an appartment complex and people see me take the bus to the doctors and they can tell i'm hurt so I keep my meds in a lock box and I hide it from everyone. I don't even think my fiancee knows where I keep it hidden. I put 1 weeks worth in a pill box and the pill box is labled on the bottom what is in it and how many. the rest are locked away. I hope for your sisters sake that your nephew doesn't have a problem.
Terri
Terri
Shoreline
01-03-2006, 11:34 AM
Hi Mike, I haven't read everyones response yet andthis has probably been said. But not telling your siter could kill your nephew. Likely he's not tlerant enough to handle taking 2 or 3 pills and they have seen others do it and that's how it kills them. They dodn't realize others worked their way up to 2 or 3 or crushing and chewing.
The police can't do a thing without evidence that ehe took it. If you go to your sisters house and explain you had to o make a police report and account forthe meds.
You couldn't imagine your nephew or sister stealing them, I bet you can't imagine your nephew telling the cops where he got them fom and that you sold them to him . If he gets cought selling them, nailing you will get his but off the fire and put you and your docs on it. IF someone OD's it may be able to be traced. With or without the report you have to confroont your sister and nephew. If he has any sense you can explain the severity and risks associated with taking or giving that strong of a med to an opiate naive person. Someones girlfrien that never had more than a Tylenol 3 is going to get 8 percocet in one shot, most likely on top of beer. I still remeber HS in the 80 and we were invinsable. One pill couldn't kill you?
Forget your sisters feelings and do the right thing, let her know aside from this incedent, it's probably an ongoing problem that she doesn't know about. Not telling her to spare her feelings could cost the life of her son or someone elses. Dude, you have to do the right thing.
The cops can't convict him unless they catch him with the drugs after you report it. Knowing it was him, without the drugs fin his posesion won't get him in trouble and won't get yorur meds back. Go over and tell them your calling the cops from her house with both of them home.Hpefuly she will support you and tell the son she's going to give them permission to search his room and the house. This should scare the kid into doing the right thing.
If it was your sister, you got bigger problems and she won't be happy to say the cops can search the house and bring dogs in. Outsmart the kid.
You have a better chance at getting your pills back by giving him the option of keeping the cops out of it.
Sorry dude, My next door neighbor got me for 70 something 30mg Roxicodone. I called the cops, but without proof, what can they do. He disapeared that night for the next 4 months and showed back up qa few mnths ago. That was his 9th rehab and he basically still hides from me. If the kid is 18, he can change his life now before he through 10 or 15 years away if not his entire life. How can you not say something and bring it to your sisters attn. Your nephew will grow up be someone elses neighbor that breaks into their house, like mine.
Good luck and if ya do it right, yank him out of school right now!! Before he sells them all, you got a chance at getting them back and bringing the problem to daylight.
Dave
The police can't do a thing without evidence that ehe took it. If you go to your sisters house and explain you had to o make a police report and account forthe meds.
You couldn't imagine your nephew or sister stealing them, I bet you can't imagine your nephew telling the cops where he got them fom and that you sold them to him . If he gets cought selling them, nailing you will get his but off the fire and put you and your docs on it. IF someone OD's it may be able to be traced. With or without the report you have to confroont your sister and nephew. If he has any sense you can explain the severity and risks associated with taking or giving that strong of a med to an opiate naive person. Someones girlfrien that never had more than a Tylenol 3 is going to get 8 percocet in one shot, most likely on top of beer. I still remeber HS in the 80 and we were invinsable. One pill couldn't kill you?
Forget your sisters feelings and do the right thing, let her know aside from this incedent, it's probably an ongoing problem that she doesn't know about. Not telling her to spare her feelings could cost the life of her son or someone elses. Dude, you have to do the right thing.
The cops can't convict him unless they catch him with the drugs after you report it. Knowing it was him, without the drugs fin his posesion won't get him in trouble and won't get yorur meds back. Go over and tell them your calling the cops from her house with both of them home.Hpefuly she will support you and tell the son she's going to give them permission to search his room and the house. This should scare the kid into doing the right thing.
If it was your sister, you got bigger problems and she won't be happy to say the cops can search the house and bring dogs in. Outsmart the kid.
You have a better chance at getting your pills back by giving him the option of keeping the cops out of it.
Sorry dude, My next door neighbor got me for 70 something 30mg Roxicodone. I called the cops, but without proof, what can they do. He disapeared that night for the next 4 months and showed back up qa few mnths ago. That was his 9th rehab and he basically still hides from me. If the kid is 18, he can change his life now before he through 10 or 15 years away if not his entire life. How can you not say something and bring it to your sisters attn. Your nephew will grow up be someone elses neighbor that breaks into their house, like mine.
Good luck and if ya do it right, yank him out of school right now!! Before he sells them all, you got a chance at getting them back and bringing the problem to daylight.
Dave
tina76
01-03-2006, 11:43 AM
My advice would be that if he does NOT return the meds that you absolutely should tell your sister and call the police. I know it sounds harsh but you are not doing him any favors by enabling this dangerous and illegal behavior.
Josie115
01-03-2006, 08:45 PM
Painful situation to say the least. This impacts so many people there really is no other solution than to go over and take care of it. Shore had a very good point..1.your nephew could accuse you. The guy who did that to me better never ever show his face around me again. 2. The police do need to catch him with the pills. Hopefully your sister will allow a search. 3. He can get help now before worse things can happen.
You have everyone's support here. Everyone. We all know that you are facing a very difficult situation. When you do the right thing, it usually works out in the end. And, you've done the right thing even if it doesn't. We're here for you.
You have everyone's support here. Everyone. We all know that you are facing a very difficult situation. When you do the right thing, it usually works out in the end. And, you've done the right thing even if it doesn't. We're here for you.
MizLiz
01-03-2006, 11:19 PM
Just a note. As I was googling tonite to try and find the adderall prescription assistance program I just happened across a post. It described how kids are crushing oxy and ritilin then mixing them and snorting them. OMG! I thought of your nephew and it made me just shiver with the thought of what could happen. I know everyone has already hammered the point of the danger of his actions so I just wanted to share this information. I had never heard of that particular "high". I just cant imagine what that would do to a developing body and mind. I hope that you are doing well and have found some support to help you through this. Liz