whats the best way to treat Periodontal Disease at home, would it be just floss, brush and mouth wash? i have mobile teeth, very mild, and would like them to get strong again, what would be the best thing WITHOUT having a dentist go in and clean the gums?

periodontal disease is caused by hard stony deposits called tartar(calculus) between tooth & gums which has to be physically removed by a dentist. Once tartar sets in no amt. of home care helps to remove what's there but would only minimize further build up. gum & bone lost due to periodontal disease is irreversible So DONT DELAY going to the dentist!

problem is im gonna have to wait cause im 3 months away from getting my benifits and cant really afford to go and spend $400 on work. Plus my gums are just red, theres no tarter near the teeth where they are mobile, still mobile but just a tiny bit. and the tarter that i have at the bottom has reduced drasticlly because of continous brushing flossing and using strong mouth wash

I'm just speculating here, but because you said your teeth are already mobile, I'm going to assume certain things about your condition. The tartar that is most likely causing the problem is below your gumline and not visible by you. There may not be a lot of it, but it needs to be removed by your dentist or hygienist. Unfortunately, your problem will persist if you never get it removed. If your teeth are already mobile, that is usually because of moderate to advanced bone loss caused by periodontal disease. You probably have some pretty deep pockets around these teeth too, and the products you use at home will not reach that deep. I think you can help somewhat with what you're doing at home right now, but ultimately, you will need to have these areas cleaned out professionally.

Yugokid,
It does sound like you are in the early stages of perio disease (maybe
gingivitis)...The stage than can be reversed with good home
treatment AND professional care.

Often perio disease is painless or has very mild symptoms. I have
read that it is an almost invisible disease.....Heck,
when the hygenist and dentist first told me, I thought they were
a little nuts....my gums did not bleed, my teeth looked healthy,
I had very few cavities. I did, from time to time, get these lumps
that I called pus pockets, but I assumed everyone got those.

I agree with the others. Get yourself to a dentist ASAP and let him
see what's going on in your mouth. A simple cleaning at the
least would benefit you if you haven't had one for a while, and both
the hygenist and the dentist can recomment further treatment if
needed. A cleaning should cost less than $100...in our town they
range from $48 to 96....a good investment if nothing else, maybe
it could relieve some of your concerns.

Let me tell you....all the periodontal procedures are expensive. Even
with dental insurance, most folks with perio problems greatly exceed
the insurance limit each year. So spending a little now would
probably be a darn good investment in your oral care. Then when
your benefits kick in in a few months, you will have some idea what
needs to be done for your oral health.

Good luck!
~Debbie~

lucky for me my sister inlaw is a hygienist, im gonna have to ask her what she thinks i should do first in my situation.

If your teeth are mobile, as the other poster mentioned, you are in advanced stages of periodontal disease. You should RUN, not walk to a dentist.

well i seriously cant afford anything right now, not for a couple weks till i get my returns. but if my teeth are mobile from bone loss, is there a way to heal them and make em stop being mobile? I had xrays 5 months back and my dentist said nothing about them, iv had this for a while, he saw nothing there when i had a tooth pulled, and they were mobile then too, they have not changed how much they move at all, iv ben taking much better care of my teeth since then. now since he said nothing bout them then, could it because i have a tendincy to clinch my teeth really bad alot? since its my sister inlaw i get half off and im gonna ask her what it costs.

tictac is right, I do not think you can reverse this yourself without prof help- 3 mos isn't so long- go in then, and have them take an assesment, and see what can be done... by them AND at home..

I completely agree with Debbie.


Yugokid,
It does sound like you are in the early stages of perio disease (maybe
gingivitis)...The stage than can be reversed with good home
treatment AND professional care.

Often perio disease is painless or has very mild symptoms. I have
read that it is an almost invisible disease.....Heck,
when the hygenist and dentist first told me, I thought they were
a little nuts....my gums did not bleed, my teeth looked healthy,
I had very few cavities. I did, from time to time, get these lumps
that I called pus pockets, but I assumed everyone got those.

I agree with the others. Get yourself to a dentist ASAP and let him
see what's going on in your mouth. A simple cleaning at the
least would benefit you if you haven't had one for a while, and both
the hygenist and the dentist can recomment further treatment if
needed. A cleaning should cost less than $100...in our town they
range from $48 to 96....a good investment if nothing else, maybe
it could relieve some of your concerns.

Let me tell you....all the periodontal procedures are expensive. Even
with dental insurance, most folks with perio problems greatly exceed
the insurance limit each year. So spending a little now would
probably be a darn good investment in your oral care. Then when
your benefits kick in in a few months, you will have some idea what
needs to be done for your oral health.

Good luck!
~Debbie~

right, well i can at least get a cleaning now since that + a xray will only cost me $65 now the scailing thing iv heard about, does it hurt? also what is the way the dentist treats gum disease?

Don't ask me- I just let it go till I had to have them all pulled out-does that tell you anything?-LOL!
They were freaking me out talking about a quad scale (cleaning underneath the gums)-But now, I think it would be highly worth it, and practical, too! And it seems it makes sense-You have to get all that cr@p outta there! After all them years of eating-it's NASTY!!
Just makes sense..

I agree with Debbie - perio work is very, very expensive - listen to one who knows. I have had flap procedures on almost all my gums - 2 surgeries to go. I also didn't have any symptoms. My perio told me that he wished that there were more significant signs to show that gum disease is present. I went for cleanings every 4 months to my former dentist. All this time, I should have been seeing a periodontist. Now, I know I'm on the right track. Proxabrushes are very good for cleaning in between the teeth, in addition to flossing and brushing.

well i called my dentist who pulled my one wisdom tooth, he said that when both wisdom teth came in they pushed my teeth across the top which could be the reason i have several mobile teeth.

oh how do they fill a cavity near the front ?

well im getting a 50% discount already plus i am dishing out $105 for a third party dental plan, the rate was on average for pario scailing was $230 at my sister inlaws office, without the 50% discount i would only pay $90 because of the insurance, so technically i would pay only $45 for what i need done

well i saw my sisterin law and she told me the same thing, tho she also told my that my continuous grinding and clinching my teeth may have loosened them. I also have good news, iv been agressivly taking care of my teeth and my gums and over all oral health is geting better, mouthwash brushing and flossing have made my gums stronger (bleed less or not at all with brushing) gums are pinker, barly any red exept a small spot or two and the tarter on the bottom row of my teeth are going down down down, 75% better than before, by the time i go to the dentist in a month or two, id have much better teeth, just need to get under and clean them out.

does this scaling hurt with the numbing? iv just had a couple bad times at the dentist. and does the redness tarter reducing a good thing? does that mean my perio is being controlled better?

The scaling and root planing does not hurt. You are numbed. Afterwards...hardly any pain. Nothing an aspirin won't fix. After you have that done....continue to see your dentist every 3-4 months for perio maintenance cleanings.

Hey Yugokid
I can seriously relate to what you're saying here. My teeth have been mobile for the past 25 years & so far I've lost only 2 due to gum problems.

10 years ago I was told by a surgeon & my own dentist that all my teeth would fall out - ain't happened yet. This very morning a dentist told me "I don't want to be pessimistic but I think we should consider removing all your upper teeth & we can make you a really good denture."

I've been told many times over the last 10 years that my teeth should be removed or that they'll fall out. None of this has happened. Yes, I have lots of problems with bone loss etc. & my teeth are a wee bit slack but it doesn't affect my ability to chew, I have no pain, the teeth have no cavities & they look fine. Why, does this man want to remove all my teeth? He cleaned them last week & told me that my pockets had gone from a 2 to a 1 which was apparently good news.

Like you, I clench my teeth. I think it has something to do with asthma medication. I also have a problem with breathing through my nose, so being a mouth-breather doesn't help the gum problems. I sometimes wake up in the morning with my teeth aching.

What's happening with me is that I agreed to go back & see him in 4 months for cleaning. The guy hasn't known me that long & I don't think he realises that my teeth have been slack half my life. One thing is for sure - he sure as hell ain't pulling out all my upper teeth.

I've always thought that the USA is very much more advanced when it comes to dental care. Here in Scotland, people sometimes have huge difficulties in even getting registered with a dentist. I'd be interested to hear what others think about what happened to me this morning.

Good luck Yogokid. Trust your gut instincts. I've heard so much bull from the so called experts. Weigh it all up in your mind. My best tip is to take large doses of Co Enzyme Q10. It's really good stuff for gingivitis.

Best wishes

Lidia
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Lidia09 seems to me there are plenty of people in the usa interested in pulling teeth out rather than trying to maintain them...both dentists and patients...from reading this board. Yes, you need to weigh what you hear or read against everything else you have heard. As for getting registered with a dentist here, if you have the money it is never a problem!
Yugokid...I would advise taking care of your teeth while your sister in law still has this offer. It is a great price! I found the scaling not to be painful at all. The only discomfort was that of keeping your mouth open for so long.