tinkerbell4dg
01-31-2006, 12:20 PM
I had my U/S today and they found some little gallstones.He said you could only see them when i moved..once i sat still for a sec. they would settle down and you couldnt see them i guess..I want to do the liver flush but I am scared for some reason to do it..I guess because my doc thinks that they do not work..Does anyone know what I should do? Thank you
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inyourdreams
01-31-2006, 02:49 PM
I've done 3 liver flushes in 3 months. I was scared at first, but after I did that first one, I felt great! Now I do them and don't even think twice about it. A flush would get rid of those stones and start working on the stones in your liver to get pushed down to the gallbladder and then out. It's gallbladder surgery minus the surgery. Do some internet research on flushing first---don't just jump into it without knowing what you're doing. You have to follow whatever protocol you're using exactly--no exceptions. I recommend a flush with Epsom Salts---the ES opens up the bile ducts so that the stones will come out and not get stuck. Apple juice (cider) and real apples a week before the flush softens the stones so they don't get stuck.
Flushing helps to lower cholesterol and just makes your body and organs function better--what's to be scared of about that? Also--there are no known cases of hospitalization from doing liver flushing. People might have some pain and get scared and run to the ER---but all you have to do is take another shot of ES to open the ducts up again and the stones normally come out. The only reason conventional Drs don't talk about them is because they don't know anything about them---they're only taught to push pills.
Good luck with whatever you decide---but read up on it first. :)
P.S. Tell your Dr to call me---I'll tell him how they DO work and how they've lowered my cholesterol, my liver enzymes, my blood sugar and have given me a new lease on life! I'll also send him to a website that's just for liver flushing and he can read ALL (I've never seen one negative story about flushing) of the positive results that come from it. :D
Flushing helps to lower cholesterol and just makes your body and organs function better--what's to be scared of about that? Also--there are no known cases of hospitalization from doing liver flushing. People might have some pain and get scared and run to the ER---but all you have to do is take another shot of ES to open the ducts up again and the stones normally come out. The only reason conventional Drs don't talk about them is because they don't know anything about them---they're only taught to push pills.
Good luck with whatever you decide---but read up on it first. :)
P.S. Tell your Dr to call me---I'll tell him how they DO work and how they've lowered my cholesterol, my liver enzymes, my blood sugar and have given me a new lease on life! I'll also send him to a website that's just for liver flushing and he can read ALL (I've never seen one negative story about flushing) of the positive results that come from it. :D
tinkerbell4dg
01-31-2006, 04:23 PM
Thank you again..i can always count on you.. :) I have read about them..And I really want to do one...I have read the one with ES...Thats the one i was going to do if i do one..I went out about 2 weeks ago and got all the stuff i needed just havent done one yet..I am scared that one would get stuck..but the guy did say that they are really small so i guess there really isnt nothing to be scared of..But you said eat apples or drink apple juice for a week? How many times a day do you need to eat or drink apple juice? I am going to be brave and do it..Thanks again..Like i said i can always count on you (inyourdreams)
inyourdreams
01-31-2006, 05:16 PM
Just wish I could post a link here to direct you to a wonderful site that would and could answer any questions you might have. Hopefully along your journey, you'll come across it :) Some sites say to use kidney cleansers and do a parasite cleansing, but I never have and many people on the other forum haven't either. It's just all in how much you want to get into this flushing. If you do it without any other type of cleansing the first time and find you feel sick, it could be from parasites---so just do a cleanse before your next flush. All of the protocols you kinda have to play around with to suit yourself.
Here's the recipe and some information regarding the flush itself:
Choose a day like Saturday for the cleanse, since you will be able to rest the next day.
Take no medicines, vitamins or pills that you can do without; they could prevent success. Stop the parasite program and kidney herbs too, the day before.
Eat a no-fat breakfast and lunch such as cooked cereal with fruit, fruit juice, bread and preserves or honey (no butter or milk), baked potato or other vegetables with salt only. This allows the bile to build up and develop pressure in the liver. Higher pressure pushes out more stones.
2:00 PM. Do not eat or drink after 2 o'clock. If you break this rule you could feel quite ill later. Get your Epsom salts ready. Mix 4 tbs. in 3 cups water and pour this into a jar. This makes four servings, 3/4 (three fourths) cup each. Set the jar in the refrigerator to get ice cold (this is for convenience and taste only).
[ You can substitute 3 cups water with 3 cups freshly pressed grapefruit juice, or freshly pressed apple juice, it tastes better .]
6:00 PM. Drink one serving 3/4 (three fourths cup) of the ice cold Epsom salts. If you did not prepare this ahead of time, mix 1 tbs. in 3/4 (three fourth) cup water now. You may add 1/8 (one eight) tsp. vitamin C powder to improve the taste. You may also drink a few mouthfuls of water afterwards or rinse your mouth. Get the olive oil (ozonated, if possible) and grapefruit out to warm up.
8:00 PM. Repeat by drinking another 3/4 (three fourths) cup of Epsom salts.You haven't eaten since two o'clock, but you won't feel hungry. Get your bedtime chores done. The timing is critical for success.
9:45 PM. Pour 1/2 (half) cup (measured) olive oil into the pint jar. Add 2 drops HCl to sterilize. Wash grapefruit twice in hot water and dry; squeeze by hand into the measuring cup. Remove pulp with fork. You should have at least 1/2 (half) cup, more (up to 3/4 (three fourths) cup) is best. You may use part lemonade. Add this to the olive oil. Also add Black Walnut Tincture. Close the jar tightly with the lid and shake hard until watery (only fresh grapefruit juice does this).
Now visit the bathroom one or more time, even if it makes you late for your ten o'clock drink. Don't be more than 15 minutes late. You will get fewer stones.
10:00 PM. Drink the potion you have mixed. Take 4 ornithine capsules with the first sips to make sure you will sleep through the night. Take 8 if you already suffer from insomnia. Drinking through a large plastic straw helps it go down easier. You may use oil and vinegar salad dressing, or straight honey to chase it down between sips. Have these ready in a tablespoon on the kitchen counter. Take it all to your bedside if you want, but drink it standing up. Get it down within 5 minutes (fifteen minutes for very elderly or weak persons).
Lie down immediately. You might fail to get stones out if you don't. The sooner you lie down the more stones you will get out. Be ready for bed ahead of time. Don't clean up the kitchen. As soon as the drink is down walk to your bed and lie down flat on your back with your head up high on the pillow. Try to think about what is happening in the liver. Try to keep perfectly still for at least 20 minutes. You may feel a train of stones traveling along the bile ducts like marbles. There is no pain because the bile duct valves are open (thank you Epsom salts!). Go to sleep, you may fail to get stones out if you don't.
Next morning. Upon awakening take your third dose of Epsom salts. If you have indigestion or nausea wait until it is gone before drinking the Epsom salts. You may go back to bed. Don't take this potion before 6:00 am.
2 Hours Later. Take your fourth (the last) dose of Epsom salts. You may go back to bed again.
After 2 More Hours you may eat. Start with fruit juice. Half an hour later eat fruit. One hour later you may eat regular food but keep it light. By supper you should feel recovered.
This is the basic recipe I follow---I do not use HCI or take black walnut tincture (for parasites). I have used melatonin and the ornithine to sleep---but neither worked for me. I sleep really crappy on flush night. I use 1 cup grapefruit juice and 2 cups of water to my 4 T of ES. I also bite on a lemon wedge after downing the ES mix because it's just downright NASTY. With the OO/GJ mix, I shake it up very vigorously in a jar until it's sorta creamy and drink it down real fast. MAKE SURE you don't let yourself get dehydrated at anytime after 2pm. If you start feeling woozy or lightheaded, drink water. Just don't drink it within 30-60 min before or after any of the drinks.
I felt flu-like the morning after my first flush---then found out I was dehydrated because I had drank NOTHING during the flush. My second flush was a breeze. My third flush I felt a little woozy again, but that's just because I had so much buttpee coming out of me before the oo/gj. You know how you get the watery squirts when you have the flu? That's what this liver flush does---it gives you that flu-like feeling, but you will shoot out gallstones.
How much apples or juice? As much as you want at least a week before. Try to use organic or fresh pressed apples if possible. Personally, I've used the cheap apple juice, and real apple cider and both gave me lots of stones and nothing got stuck. They really aren't that big---I'd say my biggest was the size of 2 peas together. If you drink the ES, none should get stuck. And if you're real brave, after you pass the stones---squeeze one of them and see how soft and squishy they are. Kinda like a green waxy substance.
I have to admit I was borderline panic attack the first time I did this. I was scared I'd end up in the hospital and had given my husband all sorts of directions in case it happened. But after I did it and saw how easy it was and how good it made my body feel, I was no longer scared. Each flush you do will be different, so don't expect the same results everytime. You might have to increase or decrease certain things for your body, add more water, less juice, etc for your taste. You'll get the hang of it.
Sorry this is so long winded. If you have any questions, just let me know. Good luck and Happy Flushing! :)
Here's the recipe and some information regarding the flush itself:
Choose a day like Saturday for the cleanse, since you will be able to rest the next day.
Take no medicines, vitamins or pills that you can do without; they could prevent success. Stop the parasite program and kidney herbs too, the day before.
Eat a no-fat breakfast and lunch such as cooked cereal with fruit, fruit juice, bread and preserves or honey (no butter or milk), baked potato or other vegetables with salt only. This allows the bile to build up and develop pressure in the liver. Higher pressure pushes out more stones.
2:00 PM. Do not eat or drink after 2 o'clock. If you break this rule you could feel quite ill later. Get your Epsom salts ready. Mix 4 tbs. in 3 cups water and pour this into a jar. This makes four servings, 3/4 (three fourths) cup each. Set the jar in the refrigerator to get ice cold (this is for convenience and taste only).
[ You can substitute 3 cups water with 3 cups freshly pressed grapefruit juice, or freshly pressed apple juice, it tastes better .]
6:00 PM. Drink one serving 3/4 (three fourths cup) of the ice cold Epsom salts. If you did not prepare this ahead of time, mix 1 tbs. in 3/4 (three fourth) cup water now. You may add 1/8 (one eight) tsp. vitamin C powder to improve the taste. You may also drink a few mouthfuls of water afterwards or rinse your mouth. Get the olive oil (ozonated, if possible) and grapefruit out to warm up.
8:00 PM. Repeat by drinking another 3/4 (three fourths) cup of Epsom salts.You haven't eaten since two o'clock, but you won't feel hungry. Get your bedtime chores done. The timing is critical for success.
9:45 PM. Pour 1/2 (half) cup (measured) olive oil into the pint jar. Add 2 drops HCl to sterilize. Wash grapefruit twice in hot water and dry; squeeze by hand into the measuring cup. Remove pulp with fork. You should have at least 1/2 (half) cup, more (up to 3/4 (three fourths) cup) is best. You may use part lemonade. Add this to the olive oil. Also add Black Walnut Tincture. Close the jar tightly with the lid and shake hard until watery (only fresh grapefruit juice does this).
Now visit the bathroom one or more time, even if it makes you late for your ten o'clock drink. Don't be more than 15 minutes late. You will get fewer stones.
10:00 PM. Drink the potion you have mixed. Take 4 ornithine capsules with the first sips to make sure you will sleep through the night. Take 8 if you already suffer from insomnia. Drinking through a large plastic straw helps it go down easier. You may use oil and vinegar salad dressing, or straight honey to chase it down between sips. Have these ready in a tablespoon on the kitchen counter. Take it all to your bedside if you want, but drink it standing up. Get it down within 5 minutes (fifteen minutes for very elderly or weak persons).
Lie down immediately. You might fail to get stones out if you don't. The sooner you lie down the more stones you will get out. Be ready for bed ahead of time. Don't clean up the kitchen. As soon as the drink is down walk to your bed and lie down flat on your back with your head up high on the pillow. Try to think about what is happening in the liver. Try to keep perfectly still for at least 20 minutes. You may feel a train of stones traveling along the bile ducts like marbles. There is no pain because the bile duct valves are open (thank you Epsom salts!). Go to sleep, you may fail to get stones out if you don't.
Next morning. Upon awakening take your third dose of Epsom salts. If you have indigestion or nausea wait until it is gone before drinking the Epsom salts. You may go back to bed. Don't take this potion before 6:00 am.
2 Hours Later. Take your fourth (the last) dose of Epsom salts. You may go back to bed again.
After 2 More Hours you may eat. Start with fruit juice. Half an hour later eat fruit. One hour later you may eat regular food but keep it light. By supper you should feel recovered.
This is the basic recipe I follow---I do not use HCI or take black walnut tincture (for parasites). I have used melatonin and the ornithine to sleep---but neither worked for me. I sleep really crappy on flush night. I use 1 cup grapefruit juice and 2 cups of water to my 4 T of ES. I also bite on a lemon wedge after downing the ES mix because it's just downright NASTY. With the OO/GJ mix, I shake it up very vigorously in a jar until it's sorta creamy and drink it down real fast. MAKE SURE you don't let yourself get dehydrated at anytime after 2pm. If you start feeling woozy or lightheaded, drink water. Just don't drink it within 30-60 min before or after any of the drinks.
I felt flu-like the morning after my first flush---then found out I was dehydrated because I had drank NOTHING during the flush. My second flush was a breeze. My third flush I felt a little woozy again, but that's just because I had so much buttpee coming out of me before the oo/gj. You know how you get the watery squirts when you have the flu? That's what this liver flush does---it gives you that flu-like feeling, but you will shoot out gallstones.
How much apples or juice? As much as you want at least a week before. Try to use organic or fresh pressed apples if possible. Personally, I've used the cheap apple juice, and real apple cider and both gave me lots of stones and nothing got stuck. They really aren't that big---I'd say my biggest was the size of 2 peas together. If you drink the ES, none should get stuck. And if you're real brave, after you pass the stones---squeeze one of them and see how soft and squishy they are. Kinda like a green waxy substance.
I have to admit I was borderline panic attack the first time I did this. I was scared I'd end up in the hospital and had given my husband all sorts of directions in case it happened. But after I did it and saw how easy it was and how good it made my body feel, I was no longer scared. Each flush you do will be different, so don't expect the same results everytime. You might have to increase or decrease certain things for your body, add more water, less juice, etc for your taste. You'll get the hang of it.
Sorry this is so long winded. If you have any questions, just let me know. Good luck and Happy Flushing! :)
tinkerbell4dg
01-31-2006, 06:22 PM
Thanks again..Thats the same one i found on the internet..I am going to try it this weekend..I bought organic apple juice the other day just in case i decided to do this..So i guess I have everything and i need to start on the juice..Thanks again for everything..I will let you know how well i do at it..lol..cross your fingers for me...Steph
inyourdreams
01-31-2006, 07:25 PM
Ok if you think you're all read up on it and ready to go. Hint: Be sure to hold your nose while drinking the ES drink, it's not salty like you think it would be, it's bitter.
Just remember----even for as nasty as everything tastes, think about the good you're doing for your body. That will keep you going the distance during the flush.
And relax!!! Think happy things while you're laying in bed after you've drank the OO/GJ.
Please let me know how it goes... :)
Just remember----even for as nasty as everything tastes, think about the good you're doing for your body. That will keep you going the distance during the flush.
And relax!!! Think happy things while you're laying in bed after you've drank the OO/GJ.
Please let me know how it goes... :)
tinkerbell4dg
01-31-2006, 08:36 PM
I will let you know how it goes..I do have another ques. when i am drinking the apple juice does it matter if it is cold or warm? I thought i read somewhere that it should be warm but i only saw it on one site..Thanks again
inyourdreams
01-31-2006, 10:19 PM
You're supposed to drink all liquids warm or room temp all week....BUT, I never did and still had successful flushing. Even the ES I've read to drink it warm, but I did mine icy cold for the taste of it---still no problems with that.
Try stuff one way this time--write it down---then if you do another flush, do it the other way next time. It's all trial and error.
Try stuff one way this time--write it down---then if you do another flush, do it the other way next time. It's all trial and error.
tinkerbell4dg
02-01-2006, 03:09 PM
hello, inyourdreams,
Well last night i decided to try what ES taste like well that was a big mistake now i really am scared to do it..It was awful and all i took was a sip of it..Is there anything else i can mix it with becides water..Like maybe apple juice???? IT WAS AWFUL!!!!I still want to do the flush because i do not want my gallbladder out..I read that people still can have problems with it out and i figure that would be worse..So do you know if there is anything else i can mix it with..I HOPE THERE IS.. :) Thanks again...
Well last night i decided to try what ES taste like well that was a big mistake now i really am scared to do it..It was awful and all i took was a sip of it..Is there anything else i can mix it with becides water..Like maybe apple juice???? IT WAS AWFUL!!!!I still want to do the flush because i do not want my gallbladder out..I read that people still can have problems with it out and i figure that would be worse..So do you know if there is anything else i can mix it with..I HOPE THERE IS.. :) Thanks again...
tinkerbell4dg
02-01-2006, 03:12 PM
oh and do you know if it is ok to take danalion root with milk thisle? Oh and one more thing..I read that there is meds that a doc can give you to break up the stones why dont they try that first before they do surgery?
tinkerbell4dg
02-01-2006, 03:38 PM
Oh and one more thing...I saw on one of your post that you had a hiatal hernia..I have one to they said it is a moving one..Do you ever get stomach pain from yours? Sometimes when i eat something my stomach hurts..I feel like i am falling apart..Anyways thank you again..you are the best...
inyourdreams
02-01-2006, 05:44 PM
Wow! Aren't you just full of questions and information today! :)
I mix my ES with grapefruit juice. 1 cup gj to 2 cups of water with the 4 T ES mixed in. It is AWFUL, isn't it. I hold my nose and chug 3/4 cup of it---and before I let go of my nose, I bite on a lemon wedge---some people hurry up and throw a mint in, but I never did that. Just gulp it as fast as you can and keep holding your nose before you take another breath. That's the only thing that works for me. I've also read about using a straw, that it bypasses your taste buds, but I never tried that. That just seems like it would delay the gulping.
I wouldn't start any new herbs if you're going to flush. My suggestion would be try the flush and then wait a few days, then start milk thistle or dandelion root.
I haven't had any problems with my hernia in years. Ever since I took Prevacid for about a year, my stomach problems have been gone. Plus I eat a pretty bland diet anymore, so that probably helps too. Your stomach just might be hurting from the gallbladder not working properly. After I did my flushes, I could tell immediately that my digestive system was functioning much better.
Thanks for the compliment--I don't know that I'm the best, but I'm sure hoping that you get yourself better. :)
Trust me--the flush is very well worth it---just put mind over matter when getting the mixes down. Think about the poor suckers on Survivor eating the heads off fish, etc. A little shot of ES is a whole lot better than having an organ taken out of your body, right?
I mix my ES with grapefruit juice. 1 cup gj to 2 cups of water with the 4 T ES mixed in. It is AWFUL, isn't it. I hold my nose and chug 3/4 cup of it---and before I let go of my nose, I bite on a lemon wedge---some people hurry up and throw a mint in, but I never did that. Just gulp it as fast as you can and keep holding your nose before you take another breath. That's the only thing that works for me. I've also read about using a straw, that it bypasses your taste buds, but I never tried that. That just seems like it would delay the gulping.
I wouldn't start any new herbs if you're going to flush. My suggestion would be try the flush and then wait a few days, then start milk thistle or dandelion root.
I haven't had any problems with my hernia in years. Ever since I took Prevacid for about a year, my stomach problems have been gone. Plus I eat a pretty bland diet anymore, so that probably helps too. Your stomach just might be hurting from the gallbladder not working properly. After I did my flushes, I could tell immediately that my digestive system was functioning much better.
Thanks for the compliment--I don't know that I'm the best, but I'm sure hoping that you get yourself better. :)
Trust me--the flush is very well worth it---just put mind over matter when getting the mixes down. Think about the poor suckers on Survivor eating the heads off fish, etc. A little shot of ES is a whole lot better than having an organ taken out of your body, right?
tinkerbell4dg
02-01-2006, 06:02 PM
Thanks again..My doc called me today..The guy that did my ultrasound said that when i moved that you could see stones but when i sat stilll there was nothing..anyways he said that the radiolgist will read it and send the report to my doc. well called and said that there is no visable signs of stones..so why would the guy doing my ultrasound say that he thought i had some? I do know something is wrong..i still have the dull ach and my shoulder blade has been hurting today..She still told me to come back at the end of the month and see how i am doing..So i guess i will see what she says..I am still going to be brave and do the flush...You said not to start any herbs right now well i started milk thisle about a week ago is that ok? if i need to stop taking it right now i will i do not want to screw this up...Thank you so much again.. :angel:
inyourdreams
02-01-2006, 06:39 PM
If it were me, I'd do the flush and still go back in the month to see if the flush has corrected anything---enzymes, ultrasound or whatever. You might just be surprised that everything feels good and is back to normal.
The guy that read your ultrasound wrote no visible signs of stones, he's not gonna write down only when she moves. So that's probably why he wrote it that way. He saw what he saw--but thought it wasn't noteworthy I guess.
If those stones are moving around enough for him to see them moving, then those suckers are ready to come out of there. Be glad you didn't have so many that they were impacted in there.
You're supposed to go off of any herbs the day before you flush---so if you're going to flush this weekend---don't take any Friday. And I'd also wait a couple days after the flush to restart them again.
Flushing not only helps gallbladder problems, but promotes healthy organs. It just makes your body work more efficiently. I've read many cases of it clearing up acne and eczema too. The first one is tough Tink, but you can do it!!! :) If I can do it, believe me, anybody can.
The guy that read your ultrasound wrote no visible signs of stones, he's not gonna write down only when she moves. So that's probably why he wrote it that way. He saw what he saw--but thought it wasn't noteworthy I guess.
If those stones are moving around enough for him to see them moving, then those suckers are ready to come out of there. Be glad you didn't have so many that they were impacted in there.
You're supposed to go off of any herbs the day before you flush---so if you're going to flush this weekend---don't take any Friday. And I'd also wait a couple days after the flush to restart them again.
Flushing not only helps gallbladder problems, but promotes healthy organs. It just makes your body work more efficiently. I've read many cases of it clearing up acne and eczema too. The first one is tough Tink, but you can do it!!! :) If I can do it, believe me, anybody can.
tinkerbell4dg
02-01-2006, 10:21 PM
Thank you again..I am getting so frustrated with this pain..I want to feel normal again..
tinkerbell4dg
02-03-2006, 09:30 AM
Well today is the day!!! Keep your fingers cross that i do not change my mind..lol..I do have one more ques about the liver flush..You said that i can use grapefruit juice..well can i just go to the health store and buy it instead of doing it myself...I know the juice they have there are not added with anything and i just thought it would be a little easier..I have 4 kids that i chase around all day and anything that makes it a little easier would be great..
Steph
Steph
inyourdreams
02-03-2006, 10:54 AM
A friend of mine actually used Minute Maid grapefruit juice and his flush worked out fine. I've always used fresh squeezed (by hand) pink grapefruits---I think I used about 4 of them altogether. Only took a few seconds to squeeze out the amount I needed. But like I said, he used the MM and it was fine for him. I just wanted to follow the recipe to the exact ingredients.
Remember---no fat today---just juices, fruits, veggies, rice, potatoes---plain. Drink lots of water before 2. You can do this! Just think positive throughout the process and what a good thing you're doing for your body. Relaxing and thinking positive is very important during the flush.
You might feel flu-like during the night and into the morning--this is normal. If you happen to throw the olive oil mixture up, continue on with the ES in the morning so that you pass what toxins you have in your intestines. You don't want your body reabsorbing them. Drinking the ES gets the stuff pushed outta you and fast.
I'm down with the flu and have been all week, but I'll be thinking about you and will say a prayer that it all goes smoothly. Let me know what happens tomorrow. :)
Remember---no fat today---just juices, fruits, veggies, rice, potatoes---plain. Drink lots of water before 2. You can do this! Just think positive throughout the process and what a good thing you're doing for your body. Relaxing and thinking positive is very important during the flush.
You might feel flu-like during the night and into the morning--this is normal. If you happen to throw the olive oil mixture up, continue on with the ES in the morning so that you pass what toxins you have in your intestines. You don't want your body reabsorbing them. Drinking the ES gets the stuff pushed outta you and fast.
I'm down with the flu and have been all week, but I'll be thinking about you and will say a prayer that it all goes smoothly. Let me know what happens tomorrow. :)
tinkerbell4dg
02-03-2006, 04:12 PM
Hey,
I am sorry you are not feeling good..Its 2 now so i am going to mix the stuff up..I was going to try it with apple juice but i have drinken so much organic apple juice lately my stomach hurts..I will be thinking about you..Having the flu sucks..my daughter had it the end of last week and the beg. of this week..she fineally went back to school today..I really do hope you feel better.
steph
I am sorry you are not feeling good..Its 2 now so i am going to mix the stuff up..I was going to try it with apple juice but i have drinken so much organic apple juice lately my stomach hurts..I will be thinking about you..Having the flu sucks..my daughter had it the end of last week and the beg. of this week..she fineally went back to school today..I really do hope you feel better.
steph
tinkerbell4dg
02-03-2006, 04:16 PM
oh one more thing..I can drink a little water here and there right? I still breastfeed a little i do not want to get dehydrated...If you do not get this its ok.i know you are not feeling well..steph
inyourdreams
02-03-2006, 08:37 PM
Yes, drink some water between ES doses---just not within 30 minutes of it. If you wake up in the night (and I did a LOT my first flush), drink some water then, not a lot to dilute the mixture, just some to wet your whistle. Then in the morning, start drinking a lot of water after your last ES dose. That was my mistake I did for my first flush-I didn't drink anything all night the night of the flush and I was so flu-like sick the next morning/day. I always drink a bottle of Gatorade now after my last dose of ES (like 2 hours after).
Thanks for the well wishes. I took myself and my son to the Dr this afternoon. He has double ear infections and my lungs are all filled up. And what really disgusts me is that I had to get prescription medicine for both of us---and that pretty much means that all those liver flushes I did were wasted cause here I am putting this crap back into me. But I gotta do something or I'm gonna land in the hospital.
I hope you're doing ok---hang in there :)
Thanks for the well wishes. I took myself and my son to the Dr this afternoon. He has double ear infections and my lungs are all filled up. And what really disgusts me is that I had to get prescription medicine for both of us---and that pretty much means that all those liver flushes I did were wasted cause here I am putting this crap back into me. But I gotta do something or I'm gonna land in the hospital.
I hope you're doing ok---hang in there :)
tinkerbell4dg
02-04-2006, 10:28 AM
Hey,
How are you and your son feeling? I hope a better..Well I did it..I couldnt do the last E/S thou becuase the 3 rd one made me really sick..but i did start going to the bathroom at 3 am this morning..I did have alot of green little balls come out(gross) I am so tired now..my 1yr old decided it was time to get up at 6am and play..There has to be another way then taking the E/S..that stuff was just awful..i can handel the olive oil and grapefruit but salt was no fun..Thank you again..Hopefully i will start feeling like myself..talk to you later
How are you and your son feeling? I hope a better..Well I did it..I couldnt do the last E/S thou becuase the 3 rd one made me really sick..but i did start going to the bathroom at 3 am this morning..I did have alot of green little balls come out(gross) I am so tired now..my 1yr old decided it was time to get up at 6am and play..There has to be another way then taking the E/S..that stuff was just awful..i can handel the olive oil and grapefruit but salt was no fun..Thank you again..Hopefully i will start feeling like myself..talk to you later
inyourdreams
02-04-2006, 11:07 AM
If you can, try to take 1 tsp ES in a glass of water--you don't want any of those little green balls laying in your intestines. The toxins they throw off make you feel real sick. Keep drinking and keep going to the bathroom--that'll make you feel better.
Those little green balls were those suckers floating around in your gallbladder! You might feel somewhat washed out today, but I bet tomorrow you're gonna feel like a whole new person.
I agree, that ES SUCKS! There are other flushes out there---one calls for Coke and then in the morning you drink Magnesium Citrate (the stuff in the green bottle) instead of ES. Maybe try that recipe next time. I just open my mouth as wide as I can and dump that ES down---it truly is an eye opening experience. BUT---the benefits in the end make it worth it, plus I know I'm getting cleaned out.
My son was up early today too---but at least he didn't scream through the night with his earaches. My drugs are kicking in a little--but not near fast enough for me. I'm feeling pretty crappy yet. Thanks for asking though :)
I'm so glad it worked out for you---I've been checking on here all morning to see how you did. The recipe says to do that every 2-3 weeks, but I did mine a month apart because I felt the ES was just so harsh on my body. You can make your own decision as far as how far apart you want to do them. My third flush yielded very tiny stones, almost chips so I thought I'll take a break for a couple months and then do another one.
Are your stones dark or kinda fluorescent green? or are they tan? Different colors mean different things. The darker the stones means they're from the liver.
Take it easy today and TRY to rest as much as you can. I know it's hard with kids. DRINK!!!!!!! Talk to you soon..
Those little green balls were those suckers floating around in your gallbladder! You might feel somewhat washed out today, but I bet tomorrow you're gonna feel like a whole new person.
I agree, that ES SUCKS! There are other flushes out there---one calls for Coke and then in the morning you drink Magnesium Citrate (the stuff in the green bottle) instead of ES. Maybe try that recipe next time. I just open my mouth as wide as I can and dump that ES down---it truly is an eye opening experience. BUT---the benefits in the end make it worth it, plus I know I'm getting cleaned out.
My son was up early today too---but at least he didn't scream through the night with his earaches. My drugs are kicking in a little--but not near fast enough for me. I'm feeling pretty crappy yet. Thanks for asking though :)
I'm so glad it worked out for you---I've been checking on here all morning to see how you did. The recipe says to do that every 2-3 weeks, but I did mine a month apart because I felt the ES was just so harsh on my body. You can make your own decision as far as how far apart you want to do them. My third flush yielded very tiny stones, almost chips so I thought I'll take a break for a couple months and then do another one.
Are your stones dark or kinda fluorescent green? or are they tan? Different colors mean different things. The darker the stones means they're from the liver.
Take it easy today and TRY to rest as much as you can. I know it's hard with kids. DRINK!!!!!!! Talk to you soon..
inyourdreams
02-04-2006, 01:51 PM
Here's some ideas for ES next time:
If you want to take the ES you can first of all reduce the dose to 2 teaspoons per dose. Dissolve this in warm water in a shot glass; this may take a little time.
Fill a cup with two thirds of:
Warm water or
Apple juice and water or
Water and cider vinegar or
Water and some honey or
Use your own imagination.
When you are ready to take the ES; Drink the shot glass straight down and follow it up immediately with the 2/3 cup of drink.
If you want to take the ES you can first of all reduce the dose to 2 teaspoons per dose. Dissolve this in warm water in a shot glass; this may take a little time.
Fill a cup with two thirds of:
Warm water or
Apple juice and water or
Water and cider vinegar or
Water and some honey or
Use your own imagination.
When you are ready to take the ES; Drink the shot glass straight down and follow it up immediately with the 2/3 cup of drink.
tinkerbell4dg
02-05-2006, 05:19 PM
i had some that were green and then a couple of tan..i do have a qest. its kind of gross..but was your stool really light afterwards? mine was light tan it almost looked a little yellow..it freaked me out..my husband thinks it was from the milk thisle pills because in the capsul they were yellow..I dont know..now i am worried about that..Thanks again for everything i will try to do one in a month..steph
Hope you and your son are feeling better..
Hope you and your son are feeling better..
inyourdreams
02-05-2006, 06:18 PM
Don't worry!!! Mine were like that for a few days after---it's because of the loss of all that bile when you flushed. It should come back in a few days to a week. After my first flush, I didn't poop for like 3 days, so how's that for gross!! :eek: I musta cleaned myself out so good that there wasn't a thing left!
Are you feeling a little better today--and do you feel energized or on a high at all? I usually feel really good the day after then I slowly go back to my depressive self by the time my next flush is due.
I actually was going to go to the ER today, but am trying to hold out until tomorrow to visit the Dr. This antibiotic isn't doing anything yet. My lungs are so tight and congested--nothing is working at all. My son seems perky and back to his old self, which I'm thankful for. I think I have pneumonia and I sure hope he doesn't get it.
I'll have to flush for sure after all of these drugs and all this superbowl junk food I've been piling in.
How many stones would you say you got in all? Did you go all day or did it quit by like noontime? Are you experiencing any tenderness or pain in the liver area? Just some curiosity questions there from me...:)
Take care and again, don't worry! You've done a wonderful thing for your health.
Are you feeling a little better today--and do you feel energized or on a high at all? I usually feel really good the day after then I slowly go back to my depressive self by the time my next flush is due.
I actually was going to go to the ER today, but am trying to hold out until tomorrow to visit the Dr. This antibiotic isn't doing anything yet. My lungs are so tight and congested--nothing is working at all. My son seems perky and back to his old self, which I'm thankful for. I think I have pneumonia and I sure hope he doesn't get it.
I'll have to flush for sure after all of these drugs and all this superbowl junk food I've been piling in.
How many stones would you say you got in all? Did you go all day or did it quit by like noontime? Are you experiencing any tenderness or pain in the liver area? Just some curiosity questions there from me...:)
Take care and again, don't worry! You've done a wonderful thing for your health.
tinkerbell4dg
02-05-2006, 08:12 PM
I am feeling pretty good today..I still have a weird pain in my right ribs..but i am starting to wonder if it is from my hiatal hernia..its hard to explain how it feels..but other then that i do feel great..
I had about 100 stones i would say..most of them where really little..I had about 7 that were the size of a pea..They stopped coming out about noon..I do want to try it again..I might try the one with the coke or i will try what you said about the shot glass..
I hope you don't have pneumonia..That would be awful..I know what you mean about doing another flush after super bowl..my husband and them are eating all kinds of junk..I am trying not to since i just did mine but its hard...And I am glad your son is feeling better..
Well gotta get my 1 yr old is into everything..
I had about 100 stones i would say..most of them where really little..I had about 7 that were the size of a pea..They stopped coming out about noon..I do want to try it again..I might try the one with the coke or i will try what you said about the shot glass..
I hope you don't have pneumonia..That would be awful..I know what you mean about doing another flush after super bowl..my husband and them are eating all kinds of junk..I am trying not to since i just did mine but its hard...And I am glad your son is feeling better..
Well gotta get my 1 yr old is into everything..
inyourdreams
02-05-2006, 08:52 PM
The pain I had and sometimes get in my rib area is a full feeling--on the right hand side, so I know it's my liver. I believe hiatal hernias are usually on the left side, near the middle cause that's where your stomach is. Pay attention in the next couple of days to see if your pain disappears. It coulda have been from the stones in your gallbladder, and now that they're gone your pain could be gone too. Your organs have just had surgery (minus the knives) and will take a couple days to recover.
100 stones is very good! I'm proud of you for going through with it :)
I'm near Pittsburgh so EVERYTHING is SuperBowl. This whole week has been nothing but Steelers reviews from morning till night---I'll be glad when it's over! Plus the eating..... I've been so bad since being sick, but I just don't care at this point. Hopefully I'll feel better tomorrow. Thanks again.
100 stones is very good! I'm proud of you for going through with it :)
I'm near Pittsburgh so EVERYTHING is SuperBowl. This whole week has been nothing but Steelers reviews from morning till night---I'll be glad when it's over! Plus the eating..... I've been so bad since being sick, but I just don't care at this point. Hopefully I'll feel better tomorrow. Thanks again.
tinkerbell4dg
02-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Now I am going to panic..I dont want it to be my liver..Its been like this for a month..it doesnt really hurt its just a weird feeling..And i have had a CT scan and a ultra sound and all they said was that i had a little fatty filtration and i had cyst on my liver..I had the CT first and then a week later i had a u/s and when they did that they didnt see the cyst on the u/s so they said that it was probally to small to see that or its gone..Well I will let you go..we just finished dinner and of course i have to clean it all up..steph
inyourdreams
02-05-2006, 10:11 PM
Mine's fatty infiltration too----my enzymes were really high from it. The flushing has brought the enzymes down to half of what they're supposed to be. The next time I'm at the Dr I'm going to ask for an US to see if the fattiness is still there after flushing---bet it's not. Stop panicking :) if that's all they saw with your liver, it's nothing to worry yourself sick over. Some people have this all their life and never know it.
Do you have high cholesterol or triglycerides? over weight? I'm REALLY overweight for my height--even though people don't think I weigh what I do. I've been trying for YEARS to dump some weight but it won't budge. The flushing brought my cholesterol down and also my tri's---I hope that it eventually kickstarts some weight loss.
If you're that concerned about your liver---wait a few weeks (after your liver settles down) and go back to the Dr and get another us or ct.
Back to the game....(I've already cleaned up) :)
Do you have high cholesterol or triglycerides? over weight? I'm REALLY overweight for my height--even though people don't think I weigh what I do. I've been trying for YEARS to dump some weight but it won't budge. The flushing brought my cholesterol down and also my tri's---I hope that it eventually kickstarts some weight loss.
If you're that concerned about your liver---wait a few weeks (after your liver settles down) and go back to the Dr and get another us or ct.
Back to the game....(I've already cleaned up) :)
tinkerbell4dg
02-05-2006, 10:24 PM
Hey again,
I No i do not have high colestrol(sp) or over weight or any of that..I dont even drink..One of the military doc. i saw thinks from all the tylonal 3 that i have taken sine july when i had my hysterctomy..that is the only thing they can think of..My alt and ast where a little high but they have gone back to normal last time i got my blood done which was 2 weeks ago i think..maybe its from some of the weight that i have in my belly..I have a little bit of fat there but i am still under my weight..Maybe i should try to loose it..
It has been nice to talk to someone..We have been here in OK for a year now and i still do not have any friends..So usually I talk to kids all day until my husband get home from work..and if he goes to the feild i do not talk to any adult..
You can come clean my mess up now :)
I No i do not have high colestrol(sp) or over weight or any of that..I dont even drink..One of the military doc. i saw thinks from all the tylonal 3 that i have taken sine july when i had my hysterctomy..that is the only thing they can think of..My alt and ast where a little high but they have gone back to normal last time i got my blood done which was 2 weeks ago i think..maybe its from some of the weight that i have in my belly..I have a little bit of fat there but i am still under my weight..Maybe i should try to loose it..
It has been nice to talk to someone..We have been here in OK for a year now and i still do not have any friends..So usually I talk to kids all day until my husband get home from work..and if he goes to the feild i do not talk to any adult..
You can come clean my mess up now :)
inyourdreams
02-05-2006, 11:14 PM
Ok, now that we got that winning over with..... :bouncing:
I don't drink either---and yes, yours probably is from Tylenol use. Do you use a lot of artifical sugars? like sweet n low, equal, etc? That can cause havoc also--even real sugar can.
It doesn't sound like you have a real bad case of it---and it can be controlled, so quit worrying!! :) They've monitored you and checked you out and as long as you stay on top of it, you'll be fine.
Do a search for fatty liver--you'll find there's a lot of reasons for it. And be thankful you don't drink to make it worse.
I've taken my cold medicine, now I'm heading to bed. Take care of yourself and we'll be seein' ya round :)
I don't drink either---and yes, yours probably is from Tylenol use. Do you use a lot of artifical sugars? like sweet n low, equal, etc? That can cause havoc also--even real sugar can.
It doesn't sound like you have a real bad case of it---and it can be controlled, so quit worrying!! :) They've monitored you and checked you out and as long as you stay on top of it, you'll be fine.
Do a search for fatty liver--you'll find there's a lot of reasons for it. And be thankful you don't drink to make it worse.
I've taken my cold medicine, now I'm heading to bed. Take care of yourself and we'll be seein' ya round :)
tinkerbell4dg
02-06-2006, 10:11 AM
Hey,
Thanks again for everything..I will try to stop worring but that is hard for me to do..I worry about everything..
I hope you had a good nights rest..Hopefully you are feeling better today..Well i have to get my 3 yr old has a appt this morning..
steph
Thanks again for everything..I will try to stop worring but that is hard for me to do..I worry about everything..
I hope you had a good nights rest..Hopefully you are feeling better today..Well i have to get my 3 yr old has a appt this morning..
steph