OK this is going to be insane for the most of you to read but I have depression,anxiety and along with this came derealization and depresonalization and agoraphobia. But the thing is I feel like things are not real,like I living in a dream but I'm not going to go into all that again because I have on several other posts already but I just want to know from all of you whats makes life real?
I know this is reality but how did it become reality. What solid evidence do we have that life is nothing but a dream?

ff,simby you guys I need some help here please http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/bigcry.gif

I'm not doing real well,it's like it came on all of a sudden again and the racing thoughts are here and my mind feels like it going to explode. Why is this happening to me?

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Because you never wake up.

If you drop a glass it breaks.
If you fall it hurts.
Gravity holds us on earth.
Water flows.
The earth rotates and sun rises.

Observe nature and you do get a sense that it is real

That is not proof but it might help.

When I started my job I was so nervous I turned my brain off.
That felt like a dream

When you are absorbed in a song or a live concert or studying and your brain is on it seems more real to me.
Having a plan or goals also seems to make the passage of time more real.

You can live
You can hurt people, or brake the glass or dig a hole or paint a room.
You have some choices and control that also helps to make it more real

Just thoughts…

Relax
You know you can feel better.

Feel this way for 1 minute and then stop for 5 minutes
Then feel it for 1 minute and stop for 10 minutes
Stop the bothersome thoughts and restrict them to a time limit

You know that your life is precious and that it is real… even if it does not seem like you can prove it.
You believe it.

I believe in you

ff....thank you, sincerely thank you so much.

I am crying,just to see the things you typed makes me feel happy enough to cry as a sign of relief. Relief that the way I tell reality is real is the same way you do,that you can break a glass and ect. I'm just so fixated on the beginning of the world and how everything came to be and the end of my life. Thank you for believing in me,that means alot. I wish so many times that the people we talk to on here could all just get together. I would love a hug from someone that understands some of my feelings and thoughts. I don't know much but I do know that you all and my family are all that I have and I need you all so much.

(((((((((((( wva )))))))))))))))

sorry i was not on earlier. i just read this.
i often have wondered if this is all a dream. i think we all do.
i also think that your anxiety and depression fuels these thoughts. (hope that is ok to say).
i agree with ff. we base our sense of reality on the fact that glass does break, etc.
i also think that you should talk to your doc asap about your thoughts getting the best of you. perhaps you need a different med or therapy type.
you don't have to live in such distress. and we are all here to help you through that, too.

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p.s. as you can see by my sig (from x-files) - i tend toward these thoughts all the time. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[This message has been edited by simby (edited 01-06-2003).]

Hi simby and thank you so much also. You always make me feel better and you are right about the depression fueling these thoughts and questions I have. I know I use to wonder about this stuff before but I could always forget it for a while and go on with life and now it's as if I never stop thinking about what is real,if this is real and so on and so on. I have a doctors appointment feb 17th and I'm going to tell the doctor all of this and mabe even print out some of the posts I have wrote on here just so he can see how bad it gets sometimes. I tend to be kinda shy when I go to the doctor thinking he will have all the answers for me but he won't know the right answers till I tell him. I was just in such a miserable way when I first starting seeing him and I am grateful I am doing some better but I think I could be doing even better if I could just stop having these thoughts all the time and could concentrate on other things. Thank you again and I like"the truth is out there" cause I believe that too http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif

hi girl -
is there anyway you could get in to see your doc before then? You should call the office and let them know what's going on. And do print out your posts if you think you will have trouble expressing it. Also, write down questions. For a while i kept a journal so i could let my therapist know what was what.
Anytime i have a change in symptoms or am overwhelmed by something i call my docs. (luckily - not too often). Sometimes it helps just to talk to the nurse or him. (yes, he will even take my calls!!!).

Anyway - i am beat - been a long day. Will check back here in the morning.

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Hi simby...I wish I could get into see my doctor before then but he's a busy man or so they say. He has two mental health facilitys that he is the doctor at and he just goes back and forth. I know he has to care for everyone equally as possible. I never get to talk with him like on the phone,but I do have a very nice therapist that calls me.

Keeping a journal is a good idea http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif
I hope you get a good nights rest and have a wonderful day tomorrow http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/round.gif

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