It's pretty sad when I feel the need to confess to a national audience of high cholesterol sufferers that I am going to have steak tonight. T-bone. It looks really fatty in that shrink-wrap packaging. And I'm going to drink an adult beverage... perhaps several of them. We're having guests over.
I'm pretty sure I will survive this event. But I just wanted to let you all know in case you don't hear from me again.
Golly gee willakers, I never used to worry about this kind of stuff. It's like I have a new hobby or something.
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ARIZONA73
02-07-2006, 08:12 PM
Enjoy your steak and stop worrying. I had steak on Saturday, and I'm still here. Besides, the saturated fat will probably do your HDL some good. I would be more concerned about eating a big plate of pasta; with all that starch sending blood sugar levels soaring :eek: . At least with steak, that won't be happening. ;)
JJ
02-07-2006, 08:12 PM
It's pretty sad when I feel the need to confess to a national audience of high cholesterol sufferers that I am going to have steak tonight. T-bone. It looks really fatty in that shrink-wrap packaging. And I'm going to drink an adult beverage... perhaps several of them. We're having guests over.
I'm pretty sure I will survive this event. But I just wanted to let you all know in case you don't hear from me again.
Golly gee willakers, I never used to worry about this kind of stuff. It's like I have a new hobby or something.
Good for U, we already had steak tonight. LOL BTW, did U watch World News Tonight? Check out how they are switching their ideas of low fat diets. I'm telling ya, I am doing as I please from now on, they are making us nuts for NO reason!!
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WNT Article:
Feb. 7, 2006 — The theory that eating less fat can help prevent disease suffered a setback today with the release of a large-scale study that failed to show such a diet lowered older women's risk of breast and colon cancer, and heart disease.
Health researchers are not giving up on the low-fat message, however, and say the new study has too many shortcomings to provide a clear answer on the health benefits of eating less fat.
The new study was conducted by researchers with the Women's Health Initiative, a $415 million National Institutes of Health study of nearly 49,000 postmenopausal women.
They analyzed the health of women who ate a diet lower in fat and higher in vegetables, fruits and grains over an 8-year period. The low-fat group was compared with women on a regular diet.
At the end of the study, the low-fat group did not show a significantly lower risk of developing breast cancer, colon cancer or heart disease and strokes.
Results of the study were published in several articles in today's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association.
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My husband also get AARP magazine, there is a great article in there also about higher ups wanting the medical people to STOP ads about meds. on tv, another subject we have discussed here many times.
Have a great nite and enjoy your steak..WE did...... :wave:
JJ
02-07-2006, 08:16 PM
Enjoy your steak and stop worrying. I had steak on Saturday, and I'm still here. Besides, the saturated fat will probably do your HDL some good. I would be more concerned about eating a big plate of pasta; with all that starch sending blood sugar levels soaring :eek: . At least with steak, that won't be happening. ;)
Arizona, didn't U say your dad got the AARP magazine? Great article this month about ads of meds. being on tv. Finally someone is trying to stop it, especially the ones not on the market too long.
YUP, give me the good ole drs. and those good ole days, I have had it playing this numbers game. Like they say..enough is enough!!
Got a UCONN game to watch, so CYL......... :wave:
ARIZONA73
02-07-2006, 08:17 PM
At the end of the study, the low-fat group did not show a significantly lower risk of developing breast cancer, colon cancer or heart disease and strokes.
Ah, finally a study that makes some sense. I rest my case. Enjoy that steak. :wave:
JJ
02-07-2006, 08:20 PM
Ah, finally a study that makes some sense. I rest my case. Enjoy that steak. :wave:
Yup, they sure are doing an about face lately!!......... :wave:
ARIZONA73
02-07-2006, 08:29 PM
Arizona, didn't U say your dad got the AARP magazine? Great article this month about ads of meds. being on tv. Finally someone is trying to stop it, especially the ones not on the market too long.
YUP, give me the good ole drs. and those good ole days, I have had it playing this numbers game. Like they say..enough is enough!!
Got a UCONN game to watch, so CYL......... :wave:
Thanks, I'll have to try to find that article. I never could figure out why they allowed drug companies to advertize their drugs on television. There was a time not so long ago when we had rules that actually made sense. These TV ads only put crazy ideas in people's heads, and then they go running to their doctors asking for the drugs. I would think that a doctor should know what's best for his patients. He doesn't need anyone trying to tell him what, if anything, he should be prescribing. Let's bring back those good old, uplifting commercials, like ads for toothpaste, chewing gum, and yes, even a few cigarette ads would be a welcome improvement over the drug ads. Drug advertising is downright annoying, and I'm sick and tired of seeing these stupid, depressing commercials over and over again.
JJ
02-07-2006, 10:07 PM
Thanks, I'll have to try to find that article. I never could figure out why they allowed drug companies to advertize their drugs on television. There was a time not so long ago when we had rules that actually made sense. These TV ads only put crazy ideas in people's heads, and then they go running to their doctors asking for the drugs. I would think that a doctor should know what's best for his patients. He doesn't need anyone trying to tell him what, if anything, he should be prescribing. Let's bring back those good old, uplifting commercials, like ads for toothpaste, chewing gum, and yes, even a few cigarette ads would be a welcome improvement over the drug ads. Drug advertising is downright annoying, and I'm sick and tired of seeing these stupid, depressing commercials over and over again.
U can go to their site and read the article, as most times they post them on their site. I love reading that magazine. That is one reason they are against ads, as they say, it is making people go ask their drs. for drugs they usually don't need.
I am like U, some of the ads are down right depressing, and U see the same things over and over again. I can't count the times I do MUTE or switch stations, as I also am sick of it. Only thing I laugh at is when they give some of the side effects. After U hear them U decide U will live with what U have.
Back to the game, so TTYL..... :wave:
HubbleRules
02-08-2006, 03:30 AM
It's pretty sad when I feel the need to confess to a national audience of high cholesterol sufferers that I am going to have steak tonight. T-bone. It looks really fatty in that shrink-wrap packaging. And I'm going to drink an adult beverage... perhaps several of them. We're having guests over.
I'm pretty sure I will survive this event. But I just wanted to let you all know in case you don't hear from me again.
Golly gee willakers, I never used to worry about this kind of stuff. It's like I have a new hobby or something.
Carrielynn,
You know, I think you may just survive the good food and drink (assuming of course that the Gods are not angry tonight)!!! :D
I've always thought that too many people are absolutely obsessed with their cholesterol numbers and seem to really get depressed when they are 'off' - that is not healthy - and they've been conditioned to feel this way by the medical profession and the constant barage of cholesterol drug ads on tv and the magazines...
I don't think cholesterol is as bad a bugaboo as we are lead to believe. And fat is NOT our enemy. Too much of the wrong kind (saturated and trans fats), chronic overeating, and LACK OF EXERCISE are the enemy!!!
There's absolutely nothing wrong with an occasional steak and potatoes. Like everything else, just don't over do it by eating it every day!
Hope you enjoyed the steak and 'adult beverages'!!! I just had a decadent meal at a restaurant tonight (with multiple adult beverages) - and it made me feel great!!!!
What's the point to living if we become neurotic wrecks everytime we go to the refrigerator or go out to eat???
HubbleRules
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JJ
02-08-2006, 10:56 AM
Couldn't have said it better Hubble. Some people, myself included at times, just get obsessed with their numbers and feel like they were soooo bad if they splurge on themselves once in awhile.
As far as the study, anyone with common sense knows it doesn't mean to go out and eat all kinds of greasy stuff, but hopefully folks won't feel so guilty over a lil splurge every so often. Not only is it good for the body, it is good for the soul. As my old dr. use to say...Everything in moderation!!!
Have a great day, and definitely time for some Beach bum life, as old man winter is paying a visit this week. So far no snow, but pretty windy and cold out there. Come on spring!!!
TTYL.......... :wave: :cool:
carrielynn
02-08-2006, 01:26 PM
I survived the steak, but not the adult beverages! We had a little too much fun with our guests last night. Oh, my aching head... but the steak was awesome and I enjoyed it a lot.
I love all of your comments about this situation and agree with everything! The industry makes me angry by focusing so much on cholesterol as the evil element, but I am partly to blame for paying attention to it.
gardeninggal
02-09-2006, 01:17 PM
Carrielynn, glad you enjoyed your steak, and the company. Good friends and good food make life enjoyable, hence less stress and we know how good that is. I have a lot of reading to catch up on here on the forum I have been doing work on the family tree. I noticed that in one branch there are a lot of family members that had reached the ages of 90's and some over 100. Now in thinking about them and the time period they lived I realized they didn't use olive oil, never heard of it, never took vitamins, ate lots of meat, home made sausage and bacon for breakfast along with several eggs, drank whole milk, ate lots of potatoes because they kept well over winter. The store was miles away by wagon and so didn't eat many of the fruits we enjoy all winter. They had their own apples stored away. Lard was their main fat and was used daily because butter meant making it yourself and was a treat. I read that they even had lard sandwiches. I'm sure someone will say that they worked hard in those days and wore off the fat, but when you got in your 60's and 70's in those days you often left that hard labor to the younger men and so to live a less active life for 30 more years well I think something else is going on here. Of course if you were as unlucky as one of my greats, who was standing in the open door of his house watching it rain and got struck buy lightning all the statins in the world wouldn't have helped him live one day more. :wave:
carrielynn
02-09-2006, 03:11 PM
Carrielynn, glad you enjoyed your steak, and the company. Good friends and good food make life enjoyable, hence less stress and we know how good that is. I have a lot of reading to catch up on here on the forum I have been doing work on the family tree. I noticed that in one branch there are a lot of family members that had reached the ages of 90's and some over 100. Now in thinking about them and the time period they lived I realized they didn't use olive oil, never heard of it, never took vitamins, ate lots of meat, home made sausage and bacon for breakfast along with several eggs, drank whole milk, ate lots of potatoes because they kept well over winter. The store was miles away by wagon and so didn't eat many of the fruits we enjoy all winter. They had their own apples stored away. Lard was their main fat and was used daily because butter meant making it yourself and was a treat. I read that they even had lard sandwiches. I'm sure someone will say that they worked hard in those days and wore off the fat, but when you got in your 60's and 70's in those days you often left that hard labor to the younger men and so to live a less active life for 30 more years well I think something else is going on here. Of course if you were as unlucky as one of my greats, who was standing in the open door of his house watching it rain and got struck buy lightning all the statins in the world wouldn't have helped him live one day more. :wave:
There is no history of heart disease on my dad's side. He grew up in a large farming family. They ate eggs, bacon, sausage and biscuits for breakfast every morning. Used butter and whole milk. My grandmother died in her 80's of cancer and my grandfather lived to his early nineties... died in his sleep of natural causes.
So it does make you wonder.
I think there's another variable that people don't focus on as much... I've always thought stress plays a huge role. When you're stressed, you unconsciously and automatically tighten muscles... wouldn't you think that tightening your chest muscles might have an effect on the blood vessels there?
I'm not discounting a genetic component here. Perhaps some people are more genetically predisposed to getting cancer or having a heart attack when they are stressed.
Just 2 cents, so take that for what's it's worth. (2 cents.)