janeslk
02-08-2006, 06:18 PM
I was reading today in the WSJ that DNA will be collected from participants in this historic study to discern the causes of common diseases such as heart disease and stroke. Researchers plan to collect information on as many as 500,000 genetic markers from each of the 9,000 heart-study patients.
The presence or absence of certain markers can be compared against a person's cholesterol levels or whether they have diabetes. Scientists hope to find genes associated with those conditions, according to the article.
Was this the study that launched the push to lower cholesterol?
Jane
ARIZONA73
02-08-2006, 06:56 PM
Scientists hope to find genes associated with those conditions, according to the article.
Well, I hope that Levis isn't one of them. :D :D
Well, I hope that Levis isn't one of them. :D :D
Boy, someone is in a good mood tonight. .... :D
Appreciated the laugh.. :wave:
Lenin
02-09-2006, 09:07 AM
Lately I buy ARIZONA jeans...the're cheaper! :D:D Penney's has a huge heap in what they call the jean pool!
Yes, Jane, that's the same Framingham study that was started in 1948 under the direction of the NIH (now the NHLBI) to get to the root of what causes heart disease. It's now recruiting and studying the third generation of original people.
ARIZONA73
02-09-2006, 08:31 PM
Lately I buy ARIZONA jeans...the're cheaper! :D:D
Well, as long as the name ARIZONA appears on them, they can't be all that bad. :D
NHone
02-25-2006, 04:46 PM
[QUOTE=Lenin]Lately I buy ARIZONA jeans...the're cheaper! :D:D Penney's has a huge heap in what they call the jean pool!
Yes, Jane, that's the same Framingham study that was started in 1948 under the direction of the NIH (now the NHLBI) to get to the root of what causes heart disease. It's now recruiting and studying the third generation of original people.[/QUOTE
Some of Framinghams original results of the 240 risk factors they identified were male baldness, creased ear lobes, and being married to a highly educated woman.
lane413
02-25-2006, 05:53 PM
You make a good point. if doctors can't agree on what's good info then how can they expect their patients to believe any of this garbage. My mom's dr. is pushing really, really hard for her to go on zorcor. He may even drop her as a patient by the next visit. She refuse bcuz when she was on lipitor for three or so yrs. her liver enzymes were severely elevated.She says the drs. won't read her chart or listen to her until she is very ill.
Take asprin, for yrs. they prescribed asprin 325mg daily for her to take to avoid heart attack/stroke. Monday she was told she now have cataracts in both eyes.
Another thing is all these pills cause other diseases, so now we need to choose which disease we feel is least annoying. Vicious cycle.
Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of all these studies. Don't care who does them. I remember the study about coffee about 20 yrs ago. "Coffee is bad for your heart and BP" among other things, a few yrs later "Coffee is not all that bad after all" and recently "Coffee is not bad at all for people with heart disease and BP problems and it might fight off Alzheimer,
Then there were the hormone pills for women in menopause how it protects the heart etc, yrs ago you'd think it was the next best thing to sliced bread, yrs later all of a sudden "the hormone pills CAN cause heart problems" the latest study "hormone pills are not really all that bad and can be prescribed again"
Just heard a commercial on TV that Viagra is now not only prescribed for ED, but also for people who do not have ED because Viagra is now good for the heart they found out. Not to long ago men with heart problems were not suppose to take Viagra.
Statins one doctor wrote "are anti inflammatory and also prevent gall bladder disease" in another study it says that statins DO CAUSE gallbladder disease".
And oh yes, last but not least the study about BP. It used to be up to 140/90 was considered normal. The latest study says 110/70 is normal, anything over 120/80 is pre-hypertensive. Yet a Dr. McDougall has an article on the Internet which says BP of 110/70 brought down with meds is dangerous because people can have strokes. He prefers a BP on meds for middle aged people of up to 159/85. He does not like the bottom # to be less than 85. He is an M.D. when I showed my doctor the article he said "he is wrong". Both are M.D.'s my doctor as well as the one who posted the article on the net. Who is right?
I have to agree with U and Lane about these "studies". Noone can seem to agree, plus six months to a year after, they all change their minds. As far as the BP thing, my husband has been borderline high since age 17, always ran about 135/85 to 140/90. Up until he was age 55 the drs. thought it was fine for him, as that was basically his normal BP. Now, they have him on so many pills for Bp etc. etc. our kitchen cabinets look like a pharmacy.
Not only am I sick of the guidelines they change for everything so often, I am VERY sick of the med. ads on tv, enough already. Like U said, by the time they get done with a study the same pill that might be good for BP is also good for 15 other ailments, man they must think we are all idiots. Must be my age, but give me the good old days and the good old drs. who made some sense and treated U like a human, not the 90% pill pushers we have today! Don't know if they have a God complex or what, but any dr. who tells me, and yes I had one, that if I don't take what they want they won't treat me, is NOT a dr. in my opinion!