Maybe you think today's doctors are geniuses compared to those in King Charles day, if so these ACTUAL COMMENTS TAKEN FROM HOSPITAL CHARTS might change your mind.

1) The patient refused autopsy.

2) On the second day the knee was better and on the third day it disappeared.

3)The patient is tearful and crying constantly. She also appears to be depressed.

4) While in ER, she was examined, x-rated and sent home.

5) Occasional, constant infrequent headaches.

6) Rectal examination revealed a normal sized thyroid.

7) Skin: somewhat pale but present.

8) The patient has been depressed since she began seeing me in 1993.

9) I saw your patient today,who is still under our car for physical therapy.

10) The lab test indicated abnormal lover function.

11) Health appearing, decrepit 69 year old male, mentally alert but forgetful.

12) Patient has 2 teenage children but no other abnormalities.

13) Between you and me, we ought to be able to get this lady pregnant.

14) She slipped on the ice and apparently her legs went in seperate directions in early December.

15) She has no rigors or shaking chills, but her husband states she was very hot in bed last night.

16) Discharge status: Alive, but without my permission.

17) Examination of genitalia revealed he was circus sized.

18) She is numb from her toes down.

19) The patient was seen in consultation with Dr Smith , who felt we should sit on the abdomen and I agree.

20) By the time he was admitted, his rapid heart had stopped and he was feeling better.



This is not funny, remember these are the people administering drugs to you!!

:D :D ...... :wave:

Maybe you think today's doctors are geniuses compared to those in King Charles day, if so these ACTUAL COMMENTS TAKEN FROM HOSPITAL CHARTS might change your mind.

1) The patient refused autopsy.

2) On the second day the knee was better and on the third day it disappeared.

3)The patient is tearful and crying constantly. She also appears to be depressed.

4) While in ER, she was examined, x-rated and sent home.

5) Occasional, constant infrequent headaches.

6) Rectal examination revealed a normal sized thyroid.

7) Skin: somewhat pale but present.

8) The patient has been depressed since she began seeing me in 1993.

9) I saw your patient today,who is still under our car for physical therapy.

10) The lab test indicated abnormal lover function.

11) Health appearing, decrepit 69 year old male, mentally alert but forgetful.

12) Patient has 2 teenage children but no other abnormalities.

13) Between you and me, we ought to be able to get this lady pregnant.

14) She slipped on the ice and apparently her legs went in seperate directions in early December.

15) She has no rigors or shaking chills, but her husband states she was very hot in bed last night.

16) Discharge status: Alive, but without my permission.

17) Examination of genitalia revealed he was circus sized.

18) She is numb from her toes down.

19) The patient was seen in consultation with Dr Smith , who felt we should sit on the abdomen and I agree.

20) By the time he was admitted, his rapid heart had stopped and he was feeling better.



This is not funny, remember these are the people administering drugs to you!!

:D :D ...... :wave:

Don't know where U got those quotes from, but although a lil humorus, they are scarey!!!! Kind of makes U wonder just where is your drs. mind, or if he/she even has one.

reminds me of the lawyer ones.. One where the lawyer asked the doctor "Have any of the people you preformed autopsies on ever objercted" , "ARe all of the people you preformed autopsies on dead"......Just like you said, they're humorous, but scary. These are the people that we are paying way to much money to, for them to be arrogant (or ignorant) with us.

I'm glad you knew that. Aspirin was originally created from the bark of the white willow tree. Taxol, was from the bark of the yew tree. The active ingredients were identified and then a synthetic version was created. What good does that do? You cannot patent a natural product. However, the synthetic equivalent can be. Drug companies see there is no money in natural products, only their synthetic versions. ANd you're right some of these are much more potent. Only a couple drawbacks with the synthetic version. First, You can develop an immunity to synthetic versions, that you would not with the natural version. And second, the natural version contains many more parts than the synthetic. They have only identified the active part that they want for a certain medication. Kind of like picking the cherries out of a pie and throwing the rest away. Usually natural products have all of their parts working together...not just one part.



So what am I supposed to do? Go out and rip some bark off of a willow tree and chaw on it? :D :D Heh

And of course there is no money in alot of natural products. Why? Because they DON'T work well in their natural state !

What's wrong with cherry picking the good stuff, or the part that works? I mean, if George Washington Carver took THAT attitude the most we would ever get from peanuts is peanut butter ! :D :D :D

So what am I supposed to do? Go out and rip some bark off of a willow tree and chaw on it? :D :D Heh

And of course there is no money in alot of natural products. Why? Because they DON'T work well in their natural state !

What's wrong with cherry picking the good stuff, or the part that works? I mean, if George Washington Carver took THAT attitude the most we would ever get from peanuts is peanut butter ! :D :D :D


You can lead a horse to water , but you can't force him to drink.......

reminds me of the lawyer ones.. One where the lawyer asked the doctor "Have any of the people you preformed autopsies on ever objercted" , "ARe all of the people you preformed autopsies on dead"......Just like you said, they're humorous, but scary. These are the people that we are paying way to much money to, for them to be arrogant (or ignorant) with us.

I think it is a case with some..NOT all, of both, arrogant and ignorant. There are some drs. I have seen over my many years, that I wonder, did they go into this because they wanted to, or was it family pressure, or greed of money, as alot of them don't act too happy. Some remind me of someone punching a clock, just do my time and get out when the whistle blows.

Liverock,

I printed out those 20 comments here at work today, and passed it around the lab. Needless to say, it drew quite a few laughs.

I was talking to a doctor today in the sauna at the gym about cholesterol medications. He agreed the are over prescribed and there are serious side effects that many doctors ignore or don't think were caused by cholesterol medications because the drug reps say these things don't happen. He also said "what do you call a person that graduates last in his medical class?" I said i didn''t know...he said "a doctor".... He said knowing how to repeat information does not mean you can analyize information.

Liverock,

I printed out those 20 comments here at work today, and passed it around the lab. Needless to say, it drew quite a few laughs.


Arizona

Thats not the same Lab that reported "abnormal lover function" I trust! :D :D ... :wave:

Arizona

Thats not the same Lab that reported "abnormal lover function" I trust! :D :D ... :wave:

Nope. Far from it. I don't work in a medical lab. The lab I work in is credible. :wave:

finres, I agree, wholeheartedly that we should report these problems. I called Merk after Zocor put my sister in a wheel chair. The stupid nurse practitioner who prescribed it to her, never mentioned the possibility of myopathy, even though Merk tells health professionals to do that. Not only did she not warn her about the side effect - she didn't even recognize my sister's symptoms when they presented themselves, as being myopathy and even encourage her to keep taking Zocor!!! Merk SAYS that a patient who has these symptoms should STOP taking Zocor! Our doctors and other health professionals are too lazy to learn THE most common problems. If I hadn't learned about statin-induced myopathy, my sister would STILL be on Zocor and still be in a wheelchair and in a lot of pain and probably just be getting worse with each passing day and could have eventually DIED if the disease got so bad that her kidneys failed. How many poor souls don't have a clue that their statin is killing them or killed their loved ones?! I'm just SO sick and tired of doctors not doing their jobs. If they don't have the time to do 2 seconds of research, then they should NOT be writing prescriptions!

finres, I agree, wholeheartedly that we should report these problems. I called Merk after Zocor put my sister in a wheel chair. The stupid nurse practitioner who prescribed it to her, never mentioned the possibility of myopathy, even though Merk tells health professionals to do that. Not only did she not warn her about the side effect - she didn't even recognize my sister's symptoms when they presented themselves, as being myopathy and even encourage her to keep taking Zocor!!! Merk SAYS that a patient who has these symptoms should STOP taking Zocor! Our doctors and other health professionals are too lazy to learn THE most common problems. If I hadn't learned about statin-induced myopathy, my sister would STILL be on Zocor and still be in a wheelchair and in a lot of pain and probably just be getting worse with each passing day and could have eventually DIED if the disease got so bad that her kidneys failed. How many poor souls don't have a clue that their statin is killing them or killed their loved ones?! I'm just SO sick and tired of doctors not doing their jobs. If they don't have the time to do 2 seconds of research, then they should NOT be writing prescriptions!

If I wouldn't have read you name on this I would have sworn I wrote it... Its exactly as I feel......I don't think people understand that we are not against helping with the heart, and other medical problems. We just don't want to be lead down a dark alley. And if we have to spend so much time keeping informed, then doctors should drastically drop their fees. Like I said before, sadly most people are more informed on how to, and what to fix on their cars than they are on their bodies. They will also spend more time to see if they are getting "ripped off" by auto mechanics....when doctors are standing with their eyes shut and their hands out. Doctors should not be in the prescription writting business period....this should be handles by Doctors of Pharmacology... A doctors should say his blood pressure is high, he has an infection...blah blah blah.. and the pharmacist should prescribe the proper medication. Not really much different than me saying you need a haircut, and then sending you to a cosmetologist... (or if you want i could cut your hair for you...of which I know nothing about)... ALso my mother's stupid doctor couldn't even read the tests results...mother had proximal muscle weakness, and peripheral neuropathy...all established by an EMG done by a neurologist... Both the idiots said she had cholesterol build-up in her leg veins and need higher cholesterol medication......Then i thought they knew what they were doing. Now???? they should be in prison. (she was taking Zocor) THe idiots even tested the blood flow in her legs and it was excellent. She had text-book perfect effects from statin medications....even according to merck.. Someday things will change

Merck and other pharmaceutical companies put down the warnings of side effects yet doctors ignore them. When patients get sick or die from these side effects and the pharmaceutical companies get sued they should go after the doctors to pay up for "ignoring" their patients symptoms. If the doctors ignore the symptoms they are worst than the pharmaceutical companies. At least the pharmaceutical companies put out a warning. Some doctors in return ignore them, and they should get sued for it.

And regardless to what some people think...the doctors can be sued...not just the drug companies..

Oh I know that is why they are so high because of their high malpractice insurances.

Their insurance rates are high because of the number of people they kill. According to JAMA (thier own magazine) doctors killed over 62,000 last year because of wrong medications or wrong combinations of medications.

Their insurance rates are high because of the number of people they kill. According to JAMA (thier own magazine) doctors killed over 62,000 last year because of wrong medications or wrong combinations of medications.



No, there insurance rates are high because of frivolous lawsuits filed by hosts of individual patients who want to make a million bucks. And thus it is passed onto us, the future patients. This is why tort reform is a good idea. It will prevent a good many lawsuits or drastically limit the settlements.

Many of those who were killed (died) were more than likely "on their way out" anyway. I know NO-ONE, not *one person who was deliberately killed by a doc UNLESS it was by Jack Kevorkian :D
Moreover, how many lives were SAVED as a result of the medical profession? I would say millions (literally). Example....Car wrecks?...Heart attacks?....work accidents?...Strokes?.....Anyeruisms? (sp)......infections?....birdflu? (cometh) :D to name just a few. :D...Oh, forgot High Cholesterol !! :D :D

No, there insurance rates are high because of frivolous lawsuits filed by hosts of individual patients who want to make a million bucks. And thus it is passed onto us, the future patients. This is why tort reform is a good idea. It will prevent a good many lawsuits or drastically limit the settlements.

Many of those who were killed (died) were more than likely "on their way out" anyway. I know NO-ONE, not *one person who was deliberately killed by a doc UNLESS it was by Jack Kevorkian :D
Moreover, how many lives were SAVED as a result of the medical profession? I would say millions (literally). Example....Car wrecks?...Heart attacks?....work accidents?...Strokes?.....Anyeruisms? (sp)......infections?....birdflu? (cometh) :D to name just a few. :D...Oh, forgot High Cholesterol !! :D :D

No , not according to the article in JAMA. I don't make up the articles...maybe you should complain to the doctors...its their magazine.

No, there insurance rates are high because of frivolous lawsuits filed by hosts of individual patients who want to make a million bucks. And thus it is passed onto us, the future patients. This is why tort reform is a good idea. It will prevent a good many lawsuits or drastically limit the settlements.[QUOTE]

I can't dispute your claim about those frivolous lawsuits. They certainly do drive up insurance rates, the same as they do with auto insurance. It's time they put a stop to all those silly lawsuits. Of course, there are some very ligitimate claims, but far too many of them are just plain stupid and idiotic.

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Many of those who were killed (died) were more than likely "on their way out" anyway. I know NO-ONE, not *one person who was deliberately killed by a doc UNLESS it was by Jack Kevorkian :D[QUOTE]

True, but then again, I don't know of anybody who was deliberately killed by a drunk driver, either. But it still doesn't excuse what happened, does it?

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Moreover, how many lives were SAVED as a result of the medical profession? I would say millions (literally). Example....Car wrecks?...Heart attacks?....work accidents?...Strokes?.....Anyeruisms? (sp)......infections?....birdflu? (cometh) :D to name just a few. :D...Oh, forgot High Cholesterol !! :D :D

Another good point, although the part about high cholesterol is debatable.