Good Morning :)
I can understand you being freaked out about your husbands gums! I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds. I am sure you have read that people can pass along the bacteria that causes gum disease through kissing. So you might have "caught" it from him, or the other way around. If one partner has gum disease it raises the chances of the other person having it, but it doesn't mean that the other person will have it for sure. How are your parents teeth? My dad died when he was only 49, but his teeth were pretty good. Only had one tooth missing and no problems with other teeth. My mom on the other hand has lots of problems with periodontal disease and her teeth. I hope my teeth won't be as bad as hers. She is always going to the dentist. Another friend I have that is in her 50's, she just had to have her bottom 4 front teeth pulled and more to go. She has been going to the dentist regularly, too. But her mom had bad teeth. So it seems to have a lot to do with your genes, and of course your dental hygiene and diet.
I think eating so many high sugar, processed foods must be a big culprit. And I sure did my share of eating sugary foods when I was a kid/teenager, that's why I got all those big fillings years ago.
I'm scared to think of all my husband will need done, too. I want him to start taking his teeth more seriously and less for granted!
I hope your tooth is feeling good today ;)
Enjoy your day :wave:

Both my parents have pretty bad teeth. I think I was doomed from the beginning - between inheriting bad teeth, I also have done my fair share of getting them to this point. The stuff i eat and drink, not going for 4 years... it all certainly played a part. At least now I guess I can sort of start over - I wont let it get so bad again without doing everything I can to prevent it.
So I got the therabreath mouthwash today (their perio one). I just used it, and I have to say - it tastes AWFUL. Kinda soapy tasting. Hopefully it is actually doing some good, because if i make myself use it (and I will) it had better have some results. Ugh. I am still constantly trying to spit out the taste. The Listerine was bad, but more in a medicinal tasting way. I got used to that, so hopefully I can get used to this. Bleh!
I hope you had a good day today :)

Good Morning :wave:
That's too bad your new mouthwash tastes so bad! But hopefully you will notice a difference in your gums?
My tooth has been a little better the past few days, but I won't say it too loud. Seems like everytime I think that, it gets worse again. It still doesn't feel "right" - but better.
Were you able to get that appointment for your husband?
How is your tooth?
Yesterday I was BAD and ate something sugary, but I didn't even enjoy it, because I kept thinking how bad this is for my teeth, LOL, so I'll stay away from it ;)
Have a good day!!!!!

So I finally got an appt for my hubby to get his teeth looked at. Its not till the 14th though :( That was the soonest he could get in there between our schedule and theirs. He is going to see the other dentist this time, because the one who did my teeth didnt have a spot yet. Kinda funny, because he saw me initially too, and I ended up with the other dentist (his brother) because of timing problems too. So we'll see what needs to be done and go from there I guess.
My teeth seem okay today. I have been using a whitening accelerator (supersmile) and they are becoming a little sensitive. I read on the therabreath site that the sensitivity to whitening products is because of glycerine, which the accelerator has, but not the regular toothpaste. Funny, because that one article by Gerard Judd says glycerine is very bad for your teeth too. I had been using it, and then re-brushing my teeth without the accelerator (hopefully getting the glycerine off), but I dont think it is enough. I just hate that my front crown is lighter than the rest of my teeth. Drives me insane!!
It is tough now eating/drinking things you know are bad, isnt it? Its hard to enjoy something when you think about the effects it is having! Im still bad - I just cant stop. Now I try to drink water after anything bad, so I can sort of rinse my teeth. I guess I'll see what good/bad I am doing to my teeth when I go back on the 9th.
Hope you had a good day and your teeth are doing good too!

Good Morning! :)
So your husband is going in the day after I go to the new dentist...not too much longer until then. I know I will get really nervous going to the new dentist, because who knows what he will say? But I am so sick of my teeth not feeling well, mostly that one tooth. But yesterday I felt some pain when I bite down on another tooth she filled. I am getting really scared.
Most toothpaste contains glycerin, so I am surprised that that is what can make you teeth sensitive. I thought it was the "bleaching agent" in the whitening toothpastes/products that made your teeth sensitive?
I too drink water if I have anything "bad". But now I carry a little toothbrush and toothpaste with me. So after I had the "bad sweet", I went to the bathroom in the Starbucks and brushed my teeth, LOL ;)
I don't drink coffee, but I do drink tea and I know that stains teeth, also. I wonder if green tea stains too?
I am glad your teeth are ok? Maybe it your filling just needed some time to calm down? Mine is not as bad as it was, but just still doesn't feel normal either, so I don't know - I guess I feel like I will need a root canal in it? :(
But will see what the dentist says.
Have a good day :wave:

Good morning :) I hope that the pain you are feeling isnt a sign of any problems. Mine were good yesterday, but I didnt eat anything remotely hard either. Thats about the only thing now that doesnt feel quite right. Its not like major pain, I just can feel it and just that kinda bothers me. I guess we'll both find out soon! 5 more days to go till my appt. I do need to call them to make sure my dentist comes to check my teeth. My mom said that when she goes in for her cleanings, they dont always come take a look after the hygenist is done.
I thought that was odd about the glycerine too. The package on the accelerator says that it is the hydrogen peroxide in it that can cause sensitivity, but I dont think that is right. I used ti use mentadent, and that has hydrogen peroxide in it too, and that never bothered me. The site I read that on said that glycerine causes sensitivity because it draws moisture out of the tooth. Ack. But I already dont like the thought of glycerine in anything because of that paper saying that the teeth cant properly re-enamalize with glycerine on your teeth.
I drink tea every morning (I dont like coffee at all) which is tough because I know it stains. But I dont think I can stand to give it up! It would be interesting to find out if green tea has the same effect. The whitening stuff I have calls for me to use it twice a day, but I am only using it at night when I know I wont have anything else to eat or drink. I just have thoughts of using it, stripping my teeth and then staining them deeper.
Have a good day :)

Hi :)
hope you had a nice Saturday! I had to work, but I didn't mind too much, figured I'll be glad for every $ I make, once I see the dentist, LOL.
What I am most worried about is that he will need to pull the front tooth. I just don't know what I would do with a missing tooth right in the front. I know I would "survive", but it would look awful until I could get an implant, if I were a candidate for that? I read that if you have perio disease, often they don't want to do implants?
Yikes, and a bridge is far from perfect either.
How often does your mom go to get her teeth cleaned? I guess if you go every 3 months, they probably don't check your teeth each time? I think they do that twice a year, if there are no problems. I'll certainly be thinking of you on that day. Are you nervous? Or are you pretty calm about it?
I wonder if green tea will stain our teeth green???? ;)
Have a great evening :wave:

About being glad for every $ you make - I agree! My husband and I have been working a lot more than usual (starting to really wear out), but once he goes in, I know we will be glad for the extra $ we have from the longer hours. It is frustrating to think about though... we work so many hours for something that takes the dentist a few minutes. It kills me to think in those terms, but I have a bad habit of that. My hour = 30 seconds for him, basically! ;)
I hope your dentist wont have to pull the front tooth. I can see how worrisome that would be. Not so bad when its a back one. I wonder how long it takes for the front till an implant is finished, on average. I hadn't really read anything on implants w/perio disease, but I can tell you that my mom's perio was pretty bad. She is getting two implants, one is already in but hasnt gotten the tooth part yet (they are both in the back). Bridges make me a little nervous after reading so many posts on the surrounding teeth ending up with issues. Its just so hard to decide what to do! Hopefully for both of us we wont have to go that route anyway though!
My mom goes every 3-4 months to get her teeth cleaned. It seems like she is in there on a weekly basis though. She decided to get one thing done at a time, and had a lot of work to be done. I just couldn't do that with how packed our schedule is. The dentist isnt open on the weekends, which is our only time off. We worked both weekend days last week, and today so tomorrow will be a major relief for some time off.
Thanks for thinking about me on dental day :) I will certainly be thinking about you on the 13th too! I am nervous, but excited at the same time. I am nervous because I don't really know the hygenist (although I think she worked on my teeth before when I used to go to a perio that was kind of a friend). I think that is a real issue for me now - having trust in the person working on me. And I guess, I kind of have an attachment (for lack of a better word) to my new dentist since he helped me out so much. No one understands that - they think I am nuts! It was just SUCH a relief when he fixed my bite problem. 5 years is a long time to be in pain from something like that. I thought it would be like that forever!! The first day I went in for work to be done, I was shaking really bad. It took everything I had not to run out of there. At least it all turned out good, I think I am over the worst of the fear, but Im just really anxious about anyone new.
I bought some more green tea tonight at the store, and had to laugh thinking about the green stain comment, LOL :D

Hi again :wave:
I think having trust in your dentist makes all the difference when it comes to the anxiety, that and the no pain factor. If you feel you are in good capable hands, then you don't worry so much. I wasn't too bad at the dentist until she did that filling where she could not get my tooth numb. That was not fun and now, every time I go again, I am worried that it will be like that again. I really do feel ready to go on an anti anxiety pill sometimes! My husband just keeps saying that I "need to quit thinking about it, it's just teeth", ha. If only it were that easy!
Wow, your mom sure has to go often to the dentist. Is she nervous about going, or not? I think it takes quite some time for a dental implant and a few visits, too. Not too bad if it is a tooth that isn't in the front, like you say.....but if it is, a year is a looooooooong time. That was what I was told, that usually they wait half a year to let the area heal. Then you get the implant and that needs to sit for a while, to let it all heal and then you get the crown on the implant. A co-worker I have, who is in his 60's had one done, and he showed it to me. It looks very realistic.
Yes, it sure is frustrating if you think about how long WE have to work for the cost of our treatment :eek: I'd rather not think about that too long!
I have read that green tea is good for your dental health, it supposedly is good against cavities. Since it isn't a dark color, hopefully staining is not a problem. I do love blueberries and other berries, and I know that they DO stain the teeth. Yikes. But they are full of anti oxidants, which is good for your health...
How are your gums doing? Have you noticed any difference since you started using the new mouthwash?
Have a great Sunday :)

Easier said than done when it comes to not thinking so much about your teeth! I just cant stop. Is your huband going to go after all your stuff is done? I can't wait till mine goes in so he will know fist hand how it feels!
My mom doesnt seem to mind going to the dentist at all. She has a much more flexible schedule, so I guess that is why she is just picking away at it. Since she is continually going, I dont thin that there is any financial benifit - its actually probably a little worse only because you have to pay to get numbed up every time. Forget that!! I hate getting the shots as it is, let alone getting them constantly like she does it. Ack!
That is good to hear green tea is good for dental health! I really like it and I am going to try to stick to that over some of the other teas I drink. Hopefully the stain factor wont be as bad. I think I am finally noticing a difference in the whiteness of my teeth. I hope its not just my imagination. They arent sensitive now, so I think my routine is working. From what I heard, blueberries are also good for the brain. I definitely need that, as I forget things constantly. I am worried about how I'll be when Im older :eek:
As for the mouthwash - I only use it once a day (at night actually) because it just tastes SO bad. My hubby used it once and wont use it again. He said it tastes like toilet bowl cleaner, LOL! Its kinda soapy tasting to me. I dont know that my gums are any different yet. They still bleed in two places toward the back. I think it might have to do with the old crowns, because that seems to be where I always bleed from. I guess I'll have to have it looked at on the 9th. I sure hope it wont be serious!
Hope you had a great weekend!

Good evening :)
Yes, my husband will go after I am all done, hopefully sooner rather than later ;) Strangely enough today my tooth felt close to normal. But last time I thought that, it was back to not so good the next day, so I won't hold my breath. But overall it seems to be getting a little better, rather than worse.
At least I have started my husband on flossing. He never did because he said it was hard to get the floss between his teeth. But with that new floss even he can get it in there.
That mouthwash sounds pretty bad! I have been using my toothpowder the last few days, after reading all that about the glycerin. I will ask the new dentist what he thinks is the best product to brush your teeth with.
I think it is pretty common to have gum problems around crowns. I know that is where my worst areas, as far as perio disease is concerned, are - around my 4 crowns, due to the car accident and one other crown.
You only have a few more days to go! I hope you get only good news!!!!
Good night :wave:

Im glad to hear you at least had a day where your tooth felt a little better! Hopefully that will last! My husband still wont floss - I think he just doesnt like dealing with the difficulty because his teeth are really crooked. He makes all kinds of excuses! I bet after going to the dentist, he will change his mind ;)

My teeth feel good except for the lower right side is bothering me when I eat anything that isnt soft. At least I will be going back in a few days, so I can have it looked at. It just worries me that something could be going on :( And I guess the one spot on the upper left gums is still sore to touch too, which is kinda odd, since it has been about a month and a half now.

Once I get my new toothpaste used up, I am going to switch to the tooth powder. I want to avoid anything with SLS, Glycerine, Fluoride and any other stuff that is "bad" for teeth and gums. I figure if there is the slightest controversy about one of those ingredients, than it would be better to be cautious and not use it. I doubt that any of it really "helps" to do much of anything anyway. Only one way to find out I guess - either I get better, stay the same or get worse and then I'll know for sure :)

Good evening :wave:
Maybe the dentist can talk your husband into flossing. My husband was the same, he always insisted that he couldn't floss or that he didn't need to. But I think my perio scared him into it, especially since I did not have any of the classic signs of it. So now we both floss every night. My tooth does feel better still, but knock on wood, I shouldn't say anything, LOL.
Today I got this credit card that has a half a year interest free, figured I can use that to charge all my dental work and then pay it off in the next half year. Planning ahead ;) .
I will stick with the tooth powder too. I don't want to take any chances and I have never read anything bad about any of the ingredients my tooth powder contains! Maybe you can ask your dentist about the coenzyme q10, I will ask mine, since he is an "integrated" dentist and see what he says.

I hope the dentist will tell you that everything is ok with your teeth! I think especially if you have a lot of work done all at once, it takes some time for everything to settle down and feel good/normal again. I am still hoping my tooth won't need a root canal, but I won't be surprised if it does either. On the other hand if it is getting better and not worse that should be a good sign.
Good night!!!! :D

Im hoping that he can convince him to start flossing. I just know he has perio disease, and its probably worse than mine. He still doesnt bleed, but Im betting that he would if he flossed.
Thats cool about the credit card deal. Hopefully you wont need it though and everything will be okay with your teeth :) It is nice though, to be able to pay smaller ammounts over time rather than all up front.
I will definitely be asking lots of questions tomorrow. My teeth are feeling pretty good today, but i just have to make sure that everything that has been going on is normal and that it'll return to normal at some point. I really want to redo my two older crowns, so I'll probably ask about that too.

Good Morning,
I will keep my fingers crossed for you today and hope all will go well!!!!
I hope you get good news about your gums, too!
So glad to hear your teeth are feeling "normal"! Ha, it's a good thing to have normal feeling teeth ;)
Let me know how it went :)
:wave:

Been thinking of you and hope all went well!!!!!

Good Morning,
I am so glad it went well for you yesterday! I would have been a little upset too, that it was a different dentist. If you develop some trust with one dentist, it's not so nice to have a new one poking around in your mouth and grinding down your crown. I wonder if that will help? I hope so! Did you ask him about the two other crowns you were thinking of replacing? Or will you wait to ask your regular dentist, when you go in next?
It's good you don't have to go back for 3 more months though :) ! Hopefully by then your teeth will feel good and your gums will improve, too. I am a little scared of getting a regular cleaning, as it can be kind of unpleasant, when I had my perio cleaning I was all numbed up...but the regular cleanings are done with no numbing .... I am a big wimp ;)
I am going in on Monday, and I am getting pretty anxious because it is a new guy and he will check on that dreaded front tooth. But I'll be glad when it's over with (the appointment) and I'll know what to expect.
Your husband is going on Tuesday, right?
Have a great day :wave:

I mentioned to the hygenist that I wanted to replace them, but it was because I was telling her how those are the two areas I bleed when I floss. I didnt get to ask my dentist anything :( I did get to talk to him a little on my way out, and he asked how that sore on my gums ended up. I told him that his brother (Dr. S) is seeing my hubby next week for a consult (Tues), but that I wanted him (Dr. B) to do the work. My hubby does not want to have his amalgams replaced. He said that he will have them fill anything new, but he doesnt want to bother with the old stuff. ACK! I know he will have to do a deep cleaning. We discussed flossing again yesterday and that went as expected :rolleyes:
I was really wishing I was numbed up yesterday! I used to not mind that stuff, but I just was not happy about it yesterday. It did go fairly quick though, that was a plus! I think once I pay down my cards (Lasik and dental) then I will start thinking about getting the crowns replaced, and maybe find out the cost of invisalign. I figure I'll probably at least have to save a few thousand to have the crowns done (they are easily 1k each, just for the crown) :eek: I just gotta do it though - I cant stand the look of the old crowns and the gums are obviously not happy about the metal.
I sure hope you get good news on that front tooth! And that he wont find any new surprises too! You will just love those digital xrays - that is just the coolest!

Good Morning Sporthorse!!!!
It's always good to see a new post from you :)
Your husband might change his mind about the flossing if the dentist tells him that the perio might cause him to lose many teeth, as it is the biggest source of tooth loss, rather than tooth decay. That sure got ME to take it seriously. I am going to do what it takes to keep it from getting any worse.
I am such a terrible wimp that I want to be numbed up for everything they do in my mouth ;) . I am even scared of the new dentist poking around in my mouth. The other dentist just took x-rays and pictures, never did any real "poking around", I wonder if that is why she initially missed a couple of cavities? Oh well, I'll just have to grit my teeth and bear it.
Strangely enough my bothersome tooth is slowly getting more normal, it's not quite there yet, but much better than it had been. Of course now it has been 2 months since she placed the filling.
Have you had any more problems when you bite down?
Hope you are having a great weekend! :wave:

I am so sorry you are going through such a rough time right now. I can understand you being upset, after all that money you paid for the crown and now you aren't happy with how it looks or feels. I'd do the same thing, call and ask to see your dentist and let him have a look. If the other guy really did something to ruin your crown, maybe he will give you a new one, or at least work out something?
I am sorry to hear about your bird friend being sick....what kind of bird? I hope she will be well again soon. Hang in there, hopefully everything will work out, but I KNOW - easier said than done (by that I mean thinking positive).
Sending you a bunch of hugs :) :) :)

I might call over on Monday, but I dont know. I looked at the crown tooth again last night, and he definitely took a lot off. The old crown behind it looks od to me too - it has a bright white spot on the biting surface. That tooth has been fine for a looooong time, so I really dont know why he would have filed on it. I may just suck it up for another week to really know how it all feels, but I will definitely say somehing about my poor new crown :( I hope there is SOMETHING he can do to fix it!
My bird is a yellow nape amazon (well, this one is, I have lots). Sounds like she is going to pull through, which is a major relief. Hopefully I can get her back on Monday. Thanks for the hugs :)
Tomorrow is your big day! I will definitely be thinking about you. Good luck, and I hope your new dentist will be really great and caring!

Good Morning :wave:
I am so glad your bird is going to pull through! That is good news. I love birds, but we have cats, that would not be a good mix.
Hopefully your dentist can do something about your crown. I wonder what your dentist will say about it when he gets a look at it?
I am soooooo scared about tomorrow, will be glad when that is over. And your husband is going on Tuesday!? I hope he won't need too much work done. If only we had money printing machine ;)
Thanks so much for wishing me luck tomorrow, I will need it!
Have you had any more pain with your teeth? You know, I always thought dentistry was a more exact science, if you have a toothache they will fix it and that will be it. After reading these boards and all the problems people have with their teeth, it seems a lot more complicated....
Have a nice Sunday :)

Thanks :) Hopefully I'll get to bring her home early this week. The vet is hopeful about that, as am I. I think I will call the dental office tomorrow - Im really upset about that crown and they at least need to know that. Not to mention it still is bothering me, and now it is transferring to the other side. I will never let anyone but Dr. B work on my teeth again (aside from cleanings).
I will be thinking about you lots tomorrow! Hopefully I will get a chance to get on here and see how it went (my vet is far away and I have to at least go visit). Im sure you will do great! You are right, we need a money prnting machine for sure!! That would certainly solve a lot of the problem ;)

Hi again, I am back :) I really liked the new dental office and the new dentist! So that was good. He is going to remove 5 old amalgam fillings and I will have a root canal done on the front tooth two weeks from today. They will do the conscious sedation on me, it was $300 extra, but I figured, what difference is that going to make now that that will be $2600. After that I need to have a consultation with the oral surgeon who is at the practise there 1 day a week. I'll go in on April 1st and try and get the pulling done after April 17th. Then I should be done, for now ;) . Not sure how much that will cost, I am figuring around $1000 give or take. They will knock me out for that one. They measured my gum pockets (something the old dentist never did) and told me that my gums aren't bad at all. So it seems the perio scaling helped a lot. I am supposed to go in for a cleaning in 4 months. The digital x-rays are great, just like you said, so much more clear! I was such a nervous wreck going there, but now I feel a lot better and will be even better once all is taken care of.
Your husband is going in tomorrow, right? I'll keep my fingers crossed for him. My husband came to the office with me and actually sat in the room, they asked him if he wanted to, so he did. He was pretty impressed with this office and said he'll go once I am done and get his amalgams out of his mouth. His fillings are very old, also.
Have you called your dentists office? I hope they will work out something for your crown!!!
I did ask my Dr. about the coenzyme Q10 and he says it does help with the gums - a lot!
Hope you were able to get your bird back home!
:wave:

I am so happy that your visit went well and you like the new dentist!! That is really great. So what did he say about the front tooth? Was it abscessed? Thats great that you will be able to get all that done and do the sedation. 300 isnt bad at all for that! Its good your hubby was impressed too - maybe I shoulda taken mine to my appt too ;) At least he is going in tomorrow. I cant hardly wait to find out what they say about his teeth. I havent called about mine yet. I was going to do it today, but the vet stuff took awhile and they are closed now. I may do it tomorrow, not really sure. My bird didnt look so good, and tomorrow if she isnt looking better she may do another surgery. Problem is she may not survive being put under for it. So either way, not looking good. Blah. I hate this stuff. So I guess depending on that will be if I call or not.
That is really great to hear about the Q10! I wanted to ask about that at my last appt but didnt, since it wasnt my dentist that saw me. We'll see what happens next time Im in there.

Good Morning! I am so sorry your bird isn't doing so well, I hope she will turn around and get well. What kind of operation would they be doing on her?
The front tooth did have an abscess, a small one, but still an abscess. The strange thing is I never thought about those teeth that were broken off in the accident as "root canal teeth". But they are because they took out the nerve! I just don't remember them getting filled with anything, but the dentist said they must have filled them with something. It was so long ago....
But they are doing a retreatment. Since it is a front tooth it only has one straight root, that makes it easier, I guess. Sure hope that will take care of it.
Good luck to your husband today! And good luck to you if you decide to call the dentist office and talk to them about the crown.
I know I will still be nervous about having this work done, not about pain or anything, just will worry about that front tooth and hope it can be saved and also will be afraid the new composite fillings will bother me as much as the last ones I got. Those do seem to be slowly getting better, maybe one day they will feel normal. The dentist says they are probably "settling" in. He says if they aren't lined just right, sometimes it can take a long time. He did say they looked fine on the x-ray.
Well, got to run and get ready for work, a long day today again.....
Talk to you soon :wave:

Good evening! :)
How is your birdie doing today? Hope she is better! And how did it go for your husband? I hope it won't be too costly to fix his teeth?! I hate to even think about how much I'll be spending on dentists this year, and my husband will go too, so it will be a LOT.
They haven't given me antibiotics ahead of time, I am sure I'll probably get some afterwards?! I have done some reading on that and some dentists now don't do that, as the benefit is rather limited. I read that the antibiotics work well, but it is hard to get them to go where they need to in the mouth area and especially if it is just a tiny abscess. So who knows, I will talk to her about it when I see her (the endodontist). She was written up in the Washingtonian magazine as one of the best endodontists, so she must be pretty good.
Is it still hurting you when you eat? Is it getting worse? Your dentist really needs to do something to fix this for you. Do you think our dental problems will ever be over???? :confused:
When I think about the 5 fillings I will have replaced I have mixed feelings. I'll be glad those old things will be gone, but what if they hurt as much as the ones I had done :eek: I don't think I could stand 5 more painful fillings.
Well, I hope you had a better day today and your bird is on her way to being well!
Good night :wave:

Mornin' :) Hubby's dental appt actually went well. I can not believe his luck!!!! All he needs are the amalgams replaced and a deep cleaning. His gums really weren't that bad either. How does he get so darn lucky?!! The dentist could not believe it! He can't do InvisAlign though, he has to go the traditional way. So we'll probably go get a consult on that first because the dentist said he might have to get some extracted. That would be awful to take a tooth out that had a filling replaced, so we're gonna see about that first. The deep cleaning will get done right away, but he may hold off on the fillings being replaced till after the braces, depending on what the ortho and dentist say. His treatment for just the deep cleaning and fillings is about 3K, less than half of mine!
I was given antibiotics ahead of time, but it was only because it was hurting and they were worried about infection. It did seem to help the pain oddly enough. Before he filled it, he put some kind of antibiotic treatment powder in there because the nerve was pretty inflammed. It must have done the trick because it doesnt bother me. That will be a great relief for you when that part is over. I really hope it fixes that and saves your tooth! Hopefully your filling replacements wont bother you at all. Mine didnt bother me, as far as the ones that were only replaced. It was just the new one (deep) and now where that really big one was that got a partial crown.
My tooth/teeth are still bothering me on that one area. I think that it is in fact worse. I will probably call today and see when Dr. B can see me. Now I just dont eat on that side :( Im sure he will feel pretty awful about it, since he put so much work into it too. I still dont think that it was a bite problem - the bite felt great! Now it hurts, where before it was just somewhat noticeable.
Unfortunately my birdie didnt make it. I was two exits away on my way there when I got the call. I went in and we talked The vet opened her up, found the reason (yolk leaked into the abdomen, which basically poisons the bloodstream) and then closed her back up so I could bring her home. I showed her to her mate, took a few feathers and buried her along with others Ive lost. It never gets easier, that is for sure. :(

Hmm, posted twice for some reason today. Just here to delete it ;)

Good Morning Sporthorse,
I am so sorry about your birdie :( I was so hoping she would make it. It's always hard to lose an animal friend. Hope you are doing ok!

Your husband is very lucky, wow! At least you won't have to spend an arm and a leg on his dental work. That's great news! Although I am sure the braces will be very expensive, won't they?
I think if I had pain with my abscess, they would give me antibiotics ahead of the root canal, too, as that often helps to shrink the abscess. The dentist tapped on that tooth with a tool and I didn't have any pain, which seems strange. But you can see the abscess plain as day on the digital x-ray, he did say it is small, so maybe that is why it doesn't hurt.
Today I am going for the testing and they will tell me what supplements to take to help my body get rid off the mercury. I get just sick thinking that the other dentist drilled out the old fillings without any precautions at all. Guess I am doomed :confused: . Oh well, can't change the past.
Good luck getting to see your dentist. I hope there is some way he can fix this. The other dentist probably ruined your bite so now you have pain?
I mostly chew on one side of my mouth, because of that root canal that doesn't have a crown yet. Good thing I am a vegetarian and don't eat anything really tough and hard, like steak! The new dentist thought it would be ok to wait 6 months to put a crown on that tooth, like the "old" dentist recommended. He thought I could do some chewing on it, but I am afraid I'll fracture the tooth and then it has to come out for sure.
I hope your day will be a good one, hang in there :wave:

Good Morning :)
I was given Chlorella, freeze dried garlic and hepaticum (sp?) to take before and after my amalgam removal. The chorella is supposed to bind heavy metals and help eliminate it from your body. The freeze dried garlic contains sulphur and that helps too. And the hepaticum is supposed to help your liver detox. It can't me hurt me anyway ;) . Did you dentist give you anything to help detoxify? The other dentist just drilled out my old fillings which seemed scary at the time and now I could kick myself I let her do that! But too late now.....
The front tooth, I think they are going to retreat that tooth by making a hole in the crown that I already have (it matches the other 3 crowns perfectly) and just close up the hole afterwards. A friend of mine had that done.... of course if that doesn't work, they will have to do a new one, I'll have to see what kinds of crowns they offer, we hadn't talked about that yet.
Does your husband have an appointment with the orthodontist yet? I hope you can catch up with your dentist on Friday.
Have a nice day :wave:

Can you find all thos things in a health food store? Sounds like it wouldnt hurt to take anyway... My dentist put in the dam thing, so I know nothing was swallowed. But I've read some dentists protect you from breathing it as well, and I didnt have that. So who knows! Did your dentist describe how he removes them?
That would be great if you were able to save the crown on the front tooth! I would think that would really help on the cost, too. I wonder with my crown if they can just build it up with something to fix it, or if I'll have to get a new one :( I would think that info is saved in the CEREC program at least. I really do need to try calling so I can get this over with. Im just agonizing about it constantly! Not to mention, its just increasing in the pain department.
When I call for that, Im going to ask for the name and number to the otho they refer to. Hubby said he was told about it, but that they hadn't given him the number yet. I think they were planning on doing all his stuff first and then the ortho. But we'll see. I think he should definitely get the consult first, and then get all the dental stuff done that needs to be done so he can get the braces. I am excited he is doing this, I bet he will be so happy with his teeth once the braces are done. Im sure I will be too!

So I finally called the dentist yesterday :) Im going in on Tuesday so he can check it out (he is out of town and doesnt get back till Monday). Hubby gets his deep cleaning on April 25 for the first half and then the 30th I think for the second half. I was kinda bummed it was so far out, but between their schedule and his, that was the only way to go. At least he isnt hurting! Still have to schedule the ortho consult, and then based on that we will schedule the amalgam removal. I almost blew that one the other night. I asked him why he changed his mind. "I dont have to do it?" Oh man, I was like... uh, yes you do! LOL.

Good Morning! I wanted to say Hi, before I go to work again.
All those things I am taking you can get at the health food store. The dentist gave me all this paperwork on how they remove the amalgam fillings. I will get oxygen from a mask, so I won't breathe in any of the vapors while they are removing the fillings, and they will also "paint" my mouth with Chlorella, which is supposed to help in addition to the rubber dam, so I don't absorb any of the vapors. They do other stuff in addition to that. It makes you really worried having that stuff in your mouth to begin with. But from what I read when it is removed, that is when you get the most exposure because the drilling heats up the filling and pulverizes it, so you absorb a lot.
It's too bad your husband can't get his cleaning done earlier. But at least he is getting it done ;) I wonder if my husband will need that also. I hope your dentist can help you when you see him!
:wave:

I think I may add that to the list of things to get next time Im there. My dentist had the dam in place, but my breathing wasnt protected. After I read about that, I was a bit freaked out. Hasn't bothered me so far as I can tell, but the thought is a tad concerning. Its sounds like your new dentist is very thorough, that is excellent!
I cant wait for Tuesday. I sure hope he can fix it that same day, if not soon after. It is driving me crazy now, and I dare not eat anything over there :( WAAA! I will never let another dentist besides mine touch me again after this!

HI! I think it probably wouldn't hurt to get those things and use them. I am a little freaked out about the other three fillings I had removed without ANY precautions, yikes! I wish the one filling would finally quit bothering me, it still does. Guess I'll have to keep waiting. The dentist said it looked fine....but it doesn't feel fine :confused: . I'm a bit frustrated today, can you tell? LOL ;) . Do you think we will every be happy with our teeth? I hope so, one day.... :) Have a nice Saturday! :wave:

Im sorry your tooth is still bothering you :( Teeth that were not a bother would be nice! My deep filling tooth has been pretty good lately. Now that I say that, it'll probably start hurting again though ;) My messed up crown tooth hurts like crazy now :( I just dont understand WHY, because one would think that even if it was relieved too much, that would take the pressure off of it. Thats what the dentist I had 5 years ago did when he told me it was fractured.
It will be interesting to see what Dr. B has to say about all of this stuff. I am going to ask him how long is too long with the sensitivity thing. I am not convinced that it wont bother me anymore, since it has come and gone with the sensitivity. Maybe its not bothering me because the other one hurts so darn bad :eek:
How much longer till you get your dental work done?

It really stinks that we both have a tooth that is bothering us, after all the work we had done. :( I will have my front tooth treated and the 5 fillings replaced on the 27th, one week from Monday and on the 1st of April I will see the oral surgeon and get a date for my wisdom teeth.
It is puzzling that your crowned tooth hurts so much, like you said, it seems that if he took off too much it doesn't seem like it would hurt? Does that tooth just have a crown, or a root canal underneath it? Hopefully there will be an easy fix when you go on Tuesday!
I am getting pretty scared that the new fillings that will be replaced will hurt like this one :eek: .
Hope you will have a good Sunday despite the hurting tooth! :wave:

I agree! Hopefully once our treatments are completeand we've had time for our teeth to "recover" it wont be like this anymore. I really miss the days when I didnt think so much about my teeth.
The tooth that is bothering me has a partial crown. It used to have a really big filling and was fractured (biting surface only), but there was enough good tooth that he didnt need to crown the whole thing (made no diff to me, cost the same anyway). I wonder what he will say about it. It has got to get fixed asap, I cant take this :( Its worse than before we removed the filling now :( It hasnt been as bad the past 2 days, only because i have not eaten anything over there. I make that mistake and I know it immediately! At least it isnt temperature sensitive.
I hope that you wont have any problems with your new fillings! Mine that were removed and just re-filled have not bothered me at all. Its just that one crown one and the deep filling, which was new. One more week to go for you! I bet you will be so happy when this part is completed. It is exciting to look in your mouth and not see the silver fillings!!!
Hope you have a great day today :)

I will keep you in my thoughts tomorrow and hope the dentist will be able to fix your tooth, somehow. If the other dentist messed it up, do you think they'd redo your partial crown for free? They very well might?! Yesterday I had a pretty good tooth day, today was so/so, but at least not like Saturday!
And to think that I hardly ever thought about my teeth, lol. Never had any pain either!!! Hopefully we'll have that behind us soon.
I won't miss those ugly silver fillings, that's for sure.
Yesterday I read on another post that someone paid over $2000 to have their wisdom teeth pulled, oh no! :eek:
Guess I didn't have a clue it could be that much. I was thinking around $1000 to $1200.
Well, I'll go for now and eat something, it's been a long day. Good night :wave:

Well, good news and bad news today. He ended up taking 2 xrays of my tooth because he is concerned about the nerve dying. Lovely!! He said the worst case is I'd need another RC, but he wants to give it at least a few weeks because the xrays looked good. He fixed my crown so it looks good again (yay!). He said he doesnt think that the pain Im having is from the adjustment the other guy did, because of the type of pain I have. So unless it starts getting a lot worse, its just wait and see. At least my crown looks good again (not as good as before, but still nice).
I hope your teeth are doing better today. Does it seem like they are gradually improving, or do you have ups and downs? I hope your wisdoms wont be that much, that is a lot of $$ for sure! One day, it will all be done. I keep looking forward to that! :)

I was wondering how your dentist visit went today! I am glad he was able to make your crown look better. How did he do that? I thought once you take it off, it would be impossible to put it back...thought he might do a new one for you (for free ;) ). I hope you won' t need another root canal!!!!! How is your tooth feeling now?
Mine seem to very gradually get better, or so it seems. On Sunday it seemed worse again, but the past 3 days are better. I am really hoping they will be good again, one day. :confused:
Sometimes I feel like I am in the wrong movie ;)
but it could be worse, right?
Have a good night :wave:

Well he basically drilled in new "grooves" I guess. It does look a lot better (not so flat). I still think it looked and felt better before the other guy worked on it though :( I guess I'll just suck it up for now - if it ends up being a RC, I'll have to get a new one anyway Im sure. I really hope it wont end up a RC!!!
4 more days till your first appt, right? I hope it all goes well and that your teeth feel perfect afterward! And I also hope that your other teeth are feeling better (hopefully normal) soon.

I hope neither one of us will need another root canal. But especially you, with your new crown! I hope if you do need one, that they can drill a little hole into the crown and then close it up again, a new crown AND a root canal would be $$$$.
Yep, 4 more days.....I hope it will go well, but we'll see. So far it seems like nothing has been going too smoothly, so I won't hold my breath. The past 2 days my fillings have been feeling better, knock on wood (I know I really shouldn't say anything...)
What will you be getting done next now? Or is it your husband first?
How has your tooth been feeling?
Have a good night :wave:

Im glad your fillings are getting better. Hopefully soon you wont even notice them :D I will be thinking of you on your dental day!
My hubby will be next. He has an appt with the orthodontist next Tuesday for a consult. After that, he gets his deep cleaning (end of April) and then hopefully the fillings replaced (depending on what the ortho says). His dental quote was like 3,000, so thats less than half of what mine was. Im hoping he will get all that done before the braces. It will be nice when the braces are done - I cant wait for that!
I want to do invisalign real bad for my lowers, but I probably wont be able to do that till next year. With what I have going on now, and the possibility of another RC, I think Im just stuck with waiting. I still have to pay off what has been done already :(
My tooth feels about the same. It might be a little better, but I think that is more due to the fact I havent been eating on it at all. Im hoping that in a few weeks it'll all be better. Somehow, I just dont think I'll be so lucky. At least the xrays looked good, but i wonder how bad it has to get before it shows up.

I think I read that you can NOT see the nerve in the tooth on an x-ray. So how could they know if it is dying? But maybe I am wrong? I even read today that you can not always see an abscess, if it is in the very early stages.
I'll keep my fingers crossed about my fillings, especially the ONE ;) , but to be honest - I won't be surprised if it ends up needing a RC, too :(
Well, let's hope we will both be lucky ;)

Thats what I was afraid of :( i think that is why he wants to give it time, to see if the pain will go away or not. It HURT when he tapped on it - so did the tooth behind it, but he said that he doesnt think that tooth has a problem (just pain transferring from the one in front of it). I was all upset when he mentioned a RC. He asked if the other one was that bad, and I said no, I just dont want to go through it again! Not only that but the $$$ *gasp*, i think my other RC was like 2200 with everything, and that was a bicuspid, not a molar!!! OUCH!!! I dont know if he could save the crown or not, since it was a partial. I didnt happen to ask about that, I was too upset about the possibility of another RC.
I really hope you wont need a RC on that tooth! I think both of us have had enough expense and issues without adding to it!

Yes, we sure have had enough dental expenses, at least for this year ;) Today, at work I was working on a clients return. He and his wife had over $21.000 in dental work done this year (she had 3 implants done). I was thinking, oh ... please don't let that happen to me, we couldn't afford that. These people have a high income - we don't! It is really scary. I wish we had better dental insurance. Let's hope for the best!

I agree about the dental insurance! It is tough too with the waiting period. I totally understand why they have it, but it seems to me most people wouldnt have insurance till they needed it, and paying for a year of insuance seems like it defeats the purpose if you need it. I hope I never need an implant with the cost of them! I havent asked my mom how much hers has cost (and its not even finished).
Right now, Im starting to understand why people want to just pull their teeth out. That molar is driving me crazy, and just the thought of waiting two weeks (or more) to see if it gets better is not appealing. But what choice do I have, its not like I want to jump in there and do a RC if it doesnt need it :( Not to mention, Im way short on $ like that after my eyes, teeth and now the vet bill from my poor birdie. UGH. I doubt I'd be able to pay for the RC for at least 2 months anyway.
How are you feeling? I hope this weekend is a good one (for you and your teeth)! When is your hubby going to start? Are you going to wait till your treatment is completed or is he going to start inbetween? Its tough managing the cost for two people for sure. Hopefully he will be lucky like my hubby was. I still cant believe all he really needed was the deep cleaning. He will get the fillings replaced, but its not like that has to be done no matter what. Lucky!!!

:wave: Good morning Sporthorse :wave:
I am getting worried about Monday....no surprise with a wimp like me, huh? But actually I am not so much worried about what will happen on Monday, but I am worried that I will need more root canals and the cost of them. I guess every time you drill a tooth you have a chance of the nerve dying due to the trauma = root canal. And I am getting those 5 fillings out, so I am REALLY hoping none of those will end up in a RC. Our dental budget will be pretty much maxed out after I get all that and the retreatment of the front tooth and the wisdom teeth. My husband will probably need a deep cleaning and some old fillings replaced, hopefully no root canal for him. He had one about 10 years ago and it went bad because the dentist drilled though the tooth and it split! Had to be pulled eventually. This year we wanted to go on a trip, for once, but no way now. Oh well. My teeth are more important to me than a trip ;)
My teeth are finally feeling more normal, not perfect, but not bad, like they had. I am dreading that after Monday, I might be back to square one, with pain.
Your husband is lucky, needs only a deep cleaning, wish we had been so lucky!!!! My husband will go when I am all done, which hopefully will be in late April.
I hope your tooth will calm down again. You know, my deep filling didn't feel good from the start, after she placed it, but it really got bad when she worked on the lower molar that had the RC and the dental assistant banged on that tooth a few times, maybe she irritated the nerve and maybe the dentist messing with your crown irritated your nerve in that tooth and hopefully it will calm down, like my tooth SEEMS to be, very SLOWLY!!!! Is your tooth getting better, worse or staying the same? As you know mine stayed pretty bad for a while, before it got any better. Is it a constant pain, or does it come and go?
Hang in there, hopefully it will improve really soon :)
I hope you can enjoy the weekend anyway... :wave:

Good Morning Sporthorse :wave:
last night I took my valium and it sure helped me sleep. I woke up very early, but that's because I took the Valium around 9.30 because I was so tired and ready to go to bed. Bet I wouldn't have slept at all without it. So in about 10 minutes I take my other pill. And in half an hour it's off to the dentist.....
I'll report back tomorrow or this evening (depending on how I feel, they said most likely you'd sleep all day).
It was quite a while until my husband got that tooth pulled with the bad root canal, which was stupid, but he is stuborn. He probably waited a year or so!
If you had a day with no pain in your tooth that was a good sign, I'd think! That's how my teeth were, they were bothering me every day, then one day it would be a bit better, then come back, then be better again etc. So hopefully yours will settle down! I know how hard it is NOT to think about it. But constantly thinking about it, makes it seem even worse. Well, got to go take my pill :eek:
Talk to you soon :wave:

Good evening, Sporthorse!
Well, I survived LOL ! After I took my halcion we went on our way to the dental office. By the time we sat in the office I felt calm and kind of detached, but definitely awake. They put me in the chair with a blanket, my dentist talked to me for a bit and then gave me more drugs and nitreous oxide. By then I felt sleepy, but I was conscious, but didn't care at all about what they were doing. I didn't feel any pain, which was my biggest worry. Especially since he drilled out the filling the other dentist had put in just recently and hurt me a lot despite 3 shots she gave me (had told me she needed to put amalgam in there because it was a molar, my dentist disagreed) It didn't hurt at all through all he did nor did it hurt when the endodontist retreated my front tooth. She told my husband that the previous dentist hadn't gotten everything at the very bottom of that tooth (24 years ago!). And she felt it went very well, guess we'll see. Hopefully she is right!
So far I feel pretty good, my mouth is sore from all the "stuff" I had in there today and the rereated tooth is pretty sore, but not enough for me to even take an aspirin. I am hoping this will stay that way. I got a presription for antibiotics, so I am on those again. Next Monday I am going back for a bite check/adjustment. And Saturday I will have a consult with the oral surgeon, so I am still going to the dentist for a while, lol. Will also ask my dentist when I should go for a perio maintenance treatment, soon - I imagine!
Well, that was my update.....
How was your day? How is your tooth feeling???????
good night!!

Good Morning Sporthorse :wave:
I was awake really early, but I went to bed earlier than usual, slept pretty good :) So far, knock on wood, the newly treated teeth feel pretty good, what a relief, but I will wait and see what happens ;) I just can't believe that after all the pain with the other fillings, these won't give me any trouble. I think I only have a little amalgam under one crown on a molar. And I am not even sure if there is any under there, I think so though. All the other amalgam is gone, yeah :) It sure looks a lot better when I open my mouth now! My mouth is still a little sore from having it open so long etc. but already better than yesterday.

I am so glad your tooth seems to be improving, even if it is a tiny bit, at least if it is improving a little, that's a good sign! I totally understand you not wanting another root canal! They are so expensive, too. Having my wisdom's pulled will cost a lot, too and I still need a crown on the tooth with the root canal the other dentist did in January. My dentist, the new one, thought it wouldn't be a bad idea to wait a few months and see what happens with that tooth before we put a crown on it. One day we'll both be all done and only have to do maintenance, I hope!!!! ;)
Hope your tooth will be a little better again today :wave:

Good Morning Sporthorse :wave:
my mouth and jaw are feeling better today, yeah! And the new fillings don't seem to bother me either, you just don't know how glad I am about that. ;)
My bite feels pretty good, except maybe one little spot on the back molar, will have him check it out, but nothing major. I read that it can take up to 2 years (!!!!) for an abscess to go away after a retreatment! Wow, that is awfully long, will have to ask the dentist when I see him Monday if that is true.
So glad to hear that your tooth is feeling a little better, even if it is only a tiny bit, as long as it isn't getting worse, there's hope it will just normalize. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea if you go back and have your bite checked, that could cause your teeth to hurt :confused: .
By the way, I think this new dentist smoothed out those bothersome fillings, they always felt a bit rough before and now are smoother. I thought he was doing something in that area, but I wasn't too aware, even though I was conscious. Yesterday the dentist's assistant called me at work to see how I was doing, which I thought was nice. Boy, am I glad I switched to this dentist. I feel a lot more confident being treated by him. :D
Yep, one day we will both be all done! I am thinking of having my teeth bleached next year, but wonder about sensitivity and my crowns in front from accident would stay the same, so that wouldn't look too good. So it probably wouldn't work too well for me....the crowns are a bit lighter than my teeth though (since I was only 20 when I got them!)
Have a good day and I hope your tooth continues to improve! :wave:

Good evening sporthorse :)
I shouldn't have said anything, sure enough that same old filling bothered me a bit yesterday, but today seemed better again. I wonder if the dentist smoothed it out on Monday, that might have aggrevated it a bit again. My new fillings still feel fine, except if I want to bite down on harder food, but I am avoiding that for now. But no pain :) How is your tooth today? Is it still improving????
My jaw/mouth was sore yesterday still, but felt better today, too.
I am wondering what the oral surgeon will say on Saturday and then Monday the dentist. Gee, I sure am spending a lot of time at dentists offices lately ;)
When is it your husbands turn?
Nighty night :wave:

Hi Sporthorse :wave:
I don't think I could stand them pulling my (impacted) wisdom teeth while I am conscious. So even though it will make it all a lot more expensive, I will most likely be completely "out". Wonder what the surgeon will say. But I am assuming that he'll tell me they need to come out. In a way, I'd rather wait until next year, because they are not bothering me at all. But on the other hand, it would be good to get it over with. Thanks for wishing me luck, I'll need it! ;)
Wow, all your talking about flossing must have worked, if your hubby is doing it. Mine is, too....I bet when he goes he'll need less work than I did, even though his habits were not nearly as good as mine, when it comes to brushing and flossing. I wonder how his appointment with the orthodontist will go. I guess I am thankful that is ONE thing I do NOT need.....or else we'd be totally broke!
Have a great day :wave:

Tell me about it - braces are so expensive!! I really want to get my bottom teeth fixed too - but there is no way that is ging to happen for awhile :( Oh well, at least my teeth are in pretty good shape now aside from that. I am so excited for my hubby to get his teeth fixed.
I sure hope you get good news tomorrow! Do you think you will get a date set up for having them pulled?

Good morning Sporthorse :)
well the news wasn't so good. He wants to pull all 4 teeth! Says lowers have to come out for sure and that the uppers would not erupt, but are causing bone loss because they are trying to come through, so need to go too, to the tune of $2200 :eek: . Not the news I was hoping for..... my date for the surgery is April 22, 3 weeks from today. Guess I am getting really depressed, we'll be broke before my husband ever goes.....
I hope your husband's braces won't be too expensive...yikes....we both need to win the lottery :)
Well, got to go to work.....hope you are feeling good today!
:wave:

Im sorry your news wasnt so good :( At least once it is done, it will be behind you and you wont have to think about that anymore. I dont know how much it cost for mine. Lucky me because my parents paid for it at the time. I guess I got off easy on that one! I hope your appointment goes well and that you heal quick and dont have any pain. It is amazing how many dentists are out there. It seems like around here there is a dental office on every corner. I guess I can see the attraction, with the salaries they make!!!

Ha, I wish my mom would pay for my wisdom tooth removal. Actually - if I had had it done years ago, in Germany, it would have been free (part of health care), but too late now! Yep, it would be nice to make a dentist. I wonder how long it takes to pull 4 wisdom teeth and make $2200. Of course I know the equipment etc. is expensive, but how expensive can it be to have whatever they use to pull teeth, LOL.
Is your tooth feeling more normal? I hope so! You have already spent so much money, too. Monday I am back to the dentist, to check the bite, I have one tooth that needs a little adjusting, I think. The others he did feel fine.....knock on wood!
Have a great evening!!!!

I bet I won't be with the oral surgeon more than half an hour for $2200, LOL. But at least I know won't know what is going on, thank godness. The worst part will not being able to eat regular food for so long and hopefully no dry socket. I hear that is the most awful pain, and I am such a wimp!
My new flllings all feel fine. Yeah. The one is still bugging me a little once in a while, but less often. So I will wait and see what happens. I can't afford another root canal right now anyway, so I am hoping it eventually get back to normal.
I am glad your tooth is settling down too, even if it is slowly. That's good news, after it was bothering you so much. I'll let you know how my appointment goes tomorrow. I'll ask him when I should come back for a cleaning, too.
Good night!!!! :-)

Its a good thing you have done research on having your wisdoms removed - at least you will be prepared and wont do the things that can cause dry socket! I never had that, thank goodness because it does sound like a horrifying kind of pain. Its bad enough as it is for us with the "little" toothaches from the fillings, etc!! I am with you on the bothorsome teeth... they need to just get better, because more rootcanals are not an option at this point. I know I will need a few months (more like 6) at least to get caught back up after spending so much on my teeth and my bird.
Hopefully you wont have to do your cleanings too often. I cant seem to remember the date for mine. I think we had set it for 2 months though. I know we were going to do it sooner than she thought was necessary to be sure we were on top of the perio stuff. I really did not like having my cleaning done last time.

Hi Sporthorse,
this morning I saw the dentist again. He just smoothed one spot that felt a little off, all the other ones feel fine and now if my other tooth would just be fine, I'd be happy, LOL. I am going in for the cleaning the very beginning of June. I would have gone earlier, but with my wisdom tooth surgery coming up, they told me to come about a month after that. I know that cleaning won't feel too good! I never like it when they dig around in my gums, but I know it needs to be done.
Tomorrow is your husbands turn with the orthodontist, right? I hope the price won't be too outrageous!
Let's just keep our fingers crossed for our "bad" teeth, I really don't want to even think of another root canal.....
Hope you are feeling good today!

I am so glad your appointment went well! I think my appt might be in June also. I was going to call, but they said they will send a card when it gets closer - so I'll probably just wait for that. We went for the ortho consult for hubby today and it was far worse than I thought. He wanted to extract 4 teeth, and said he can get them straight but to correct his bite would require surgery. He does not think that surgery should be done because the problem isnt bad enough to warrant cost and pain. All total, it would be 2-2.5 years, and a little over 5,000. OUCH. We are probably going to get a second opinion (cant hurt) before committing to anything.
Hope you and your teeth are doing good today!

Good Morning Sporthorse! Wow - your husbands estimate sounds really high. I'd go get a second opinion, too. But at least you can make payments for this as you go along, right? Over 2 years? Which 4 teeth does he want to extract?
How is your tooth? Mine are, dare I say it, not feeling too bad....but I won't hold my breath, LOL. You know what happens when I say THAT! I am hoping they will be pretty good when my wisdom teeth come out, that'll be bad enough without extra problems.
I hope you are feeling good!!!!

I am so glad your tooth is improving, yeah :bouncing:
I suppose one advantage to paying up front for the orthodontist would be the discount - but another would be the tax write off. I don't know how it usually works for you, but most years we never have enough medical expenses to get above the 7 1/2 % threshold you need if you itemize the medical expenses, so it is good to get a lot paid for in one year, so you can get the maximum benefit.
After my wisdoms I will get the perio cleaning and then in the fall a crown. But who knows what else will come up? :confused:
My husband was in the military also and didn't think too highly of the dentist he saw, each one would tell him something different. One would say he has 3 cavities, one would say it all looks fine! Pulling 4 teeth is major, wow. Are you going to get a second opinion soon?
Well, time to go to bed, I worked 12 hours today and tomorrow it will be more of the same :yawn:
Good night :wave:

Wow it has been awhile since I have checked in, I cant believe this was on page 2, LOL. How are your teeth feeling now? Hopefully good! Mine seems okay, I can eat most anything on it now but it still seems different somehow. At least it isnt pain, but it doesnt feel quite right yet either. At least it hasnt gotten worse!
Hopefully once you are done with wisdoms and the crown you wont have anything come up aside from cleanings and such! It sure would be nice to think it is done anyway.
My hubby still hasnt called for the 2nd opinion, so Im gonna have to remind him of that so he can get in there sometime soon. With his schedule it can be very difficult to find a time that will work, but I think he needs to get on it so we can make a decision as to when it'll get done. He was starting to want to put it off till next year and Im not too crazy about that. He just didnt want another payment, and by that time my lasik and my dental would both be paid off. But as I told him, he could be 1 year closer to getting the braces off by that point!

Good Morning, sounds like your tooth is just like mine, no pain, but doesn't feel quite right yet either. Maybe we will get there - I hope!!!
I can understand your husband wanting to wait until next year....I guess I was thinking of putting my wisdom teeth off for another year, but then I thought I'd rather get it over with. It would be so nice to not think about my teeth so much and feel different pains etc. It will probably take some time for my mouth to feel "normal" after the wisdom teeth are pulled. I am sooooo dreading that.
It's great that your tooth is doing so much better! It must have been all that grinding that irritated it again.
Have a great weekend!!!!

I sure hop our teeth end up 100% better! Mine has been getting better, it is noticeable now. I am SO happy about that because I surely cant afford to have anything done right now. Hubby STILL needs to call the 2nd ortho for a consult. I am anxious for him to get in there so we know what to do about the braces.
So your appt for the wisdoms is coming up soon huh? I bet you will do great! I know it isnt pleasant at all, but at least you will have that behind you. Hopefully that will be the last "major" procedure you'll have!

Hi, Sporthorse, that's great your tooth is so much better! I hope your husband can get a second opinion soon. Yep, my "date" is one week from this Saturday. I sure am NOT looking forward to it. But will be glad when it is all over with. Work is really crazy right now, with the tax deadline so close.
How are your gums feeling? Do you think the new rinse helps? How do you like that toothpaste? Have you gotten used to the taste? Or stopped using it?
Hope your tooth continues to do well :-)

HI Sporthorse! My teeth is still bugging me a little too, but not too bad. Hopefully eventually it will all calm down, it is much better than it used to be. I am getting nervous about the wisdom teeth though.....only a week now and a day....yikes. The closer it gets the more nervous I'll become, no doubt.
Too bad you can't stand the taste of the rinse! But if it tastest that bad, I wouldn't use it either. Maybe you can find someone else who will, so it won't go to waste?
Work is crazy, but on Tuesday it will calm down, hooray.
Well, got to run off to work now! Have a great day :-)!!!!

Today was your wisdom teeth removal day wasnt it? I hope everything went well and that you are doing okay!!!

Hi Sporthorse,
yep, today was the day. I am glad it's over with. I didn't sleep more than an hour or two last night, I was so nervous. I am taking Percocet every two hours and don' t feel to bad with it, but I bet I would without it. On our way home, before I took the pills it hurt a LOT. My right side of the face doesn't feel bad, but the bottom left is the worst. Keep your fingers crossed I won't get the dry socket, I am scared of that.
How is your tooth doing? What's your husband going to do next?
Good to hear from you again!
Have a great evening!!!!

Good Morning Sporthorse, finally I slept last night, yeah! The one side of my face is pretty swollen and hurts more than the other side. I am going to everything I can to help my body heal and not get dry socket or infection. They put me on antibiotics, to. My 3rd time this year! Yikes. For sure I will need to take some acidipholis (sp?) tablets after this! My other tooth/filling has been better, still not great, but not worse and it does seem to get a tiny bit better over time. So I will wait and see how it develops. I too am not ready for any more root canals at the moment, and aside from that - I am hoping I won' t need one at all ;-)
I hope the deep cleaning goes well for your hubby. I was scared before they did my first half, but it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. I was only sore that one day and the next day already felt almost normal. So I hope his goes well!
So glad that your tooth is still doing ok and not getting worse. I recently talked to someone that told me she had crowns put on her teeth and they bothered her for a YEAR! Then they finally felt ok.
Hope you are having a great Sunday and your animals are doing well!

Good Morning Sporthorse,
yikes, the first day after my extractions must have been the easiest, maybe due to the sedation. The second day I was miserable, even with the percoset and everything was hurting me, my head, my jaw etc. At night I woke up in pain, so took more painkillers, but it doesn't completely go away anymore. I am not able to open up my mouth without wincing in pain. So I try to brush my teeth the best I can and rinse several times a day with saltwater, but the brushing sure is hard. My face is all swollen up too, despite putting ice on it the first day all the time, 20 minutes on 20 off, like they said. Oh well, now I have to wait to get better, hopefully soon. I'll run out of percoset soon :eek: As far as I know, in a couple of weeks the extraction sites should be healed over, but not underneath, that can take several months. Do you remember how long it took for your swelling to go down? I think the fact that I am older doesn't help :confused: .
Today is your husbands cleaning? How did it go? Does he have to go 2 or 3 times? I hope it all goes well for him!!!! That part of my treatment I acutally liked the best, wasn't painful and got some good results ;)
Have a good day!!! :wave:

Hi Sporthorse, :wave:
it's so nice to hear from you again! I figured you were busy.... it's good to have a life aside from teeth. I am feeling pretty bad still, my right side feels fine, but my left side is still somewhat swollen and hurts so much that it is hard to open my mouth for more than a spoon. Brushing my teeth hurts a lot still and on top of that I seem to have sinus problems...my head is about to explode and everything hurts. I wonder if pulling the upper teeth could have somehow contributed to a sinus infection? Oh, I am just so miserable :( Right now I am in Massachussetts with my husband, he is here in business. If I don't feel any better by Friday/Saturday when we get back, I'll go to the dentist on Monday. But the good news is, I didn't get dry socket, I guess I better be thankful for that!!! :D
So glad your husband got his cleaning behind him, that is great!!! Did he notice any difference in his gums yet? Hope his appointment goes well with the ortho and they come up with a less costly plan.
I hope your tooth will calm down again! Mine is still off and on, too, but not getting worse.
You know, I would have never ever believed this would all drag on for so long! Do you think we'll ever feel normal again????
Sure hope so!!!
Hugs to you :)

Im so sorry to hear you are still feeling so miserable from the wisdoms :( It does feel neverending sometimes, that is for sure! I wouldnt be surprised if having them extracted somehow has to do with the sinus problems. Thank goodness you didnt have any dry socket problems! How are those areas looking? Hopefully you will start getting better soon - it is certainly tough having to feel like that and not being able to do anything about it :( I hope your dentist will have some answers for you!! One day, our teeth problems just HAVE TO get better!

Hi Sporthorse...last night I kept rinsing my mouth with saltwater and today it seemed a little bit better, so I am hoping it will get better each day. The worst part right now is the sinus headache, it feels like my head will bust!
Let's hope we will be done for a while now, spending so much money on our teeth :-)

The saltwater definitely does help. It sure tastes bad though! Did you end up seeing your dentist yet? I sure hope you are feeling better!!

We finally went to the 2nd ortho consult for my hubby on Friday, and it was SO much better. They said he CAN have InvisAlign, and most likely no extractions. If they do end up needing to extract, it would only be 2 teeth, not four. Its a bit more $ (but it is IA), about 6K. They said he gets a free bleachng at the end, and that if the IA didnt work out as expected they would do traditional braces for FREE! They were so much better in every way - tons of people in there being treated too, so that makes me feel a lot more confident as well. He already got impreessions and should have his first set of trays in about 6-8 weeks!

Hi Sporthorse,
yep, I am finally starting to feel a bit better, still have pains in my jaw, but the swelling is almost gone and the saltwater has helped. The extraction sites seem like they are healing. Still have a headache though, grrrr.
Wow, $6000, that's a bunch! But I like the fact that they won't pull teeth and the free bleaching too! Sounds like you are a lot more impressed with this group. Good! It's so important to go with someone you have confidence in.
In a month I am getting the next cleaning... I hope I won't need anything else done until next year, except another cleaning. At least if I can wait until next year, the insurance will pay $1000 again.
How is your tooth feeling? Mine has been a little better, knock on wood, LOL ;-)
Hope you are feeling better, too!

I agree - it is really $$$. I still cant believe 2 years - its hard to imagine having braces on that long. Im so glad they said he could do invisalign. It did take a long time to get the impressions done, that was the only bad thing about it. I guess they have to be absolutely perfect or the lab cant make them. So we were there for quite some time because it was hard for them to get it just right. I just hope that that really was it!
That is great that you only have the cleaning to go for now. Hopefully you will get good news when you go in for that! I cant remember when my next cleaning is - I should call and see one of these days! I would think its coming up pretty soon, I know I was on a short cycle too. Im so glad to hear your swelling is almost gone. That definitely has to be frustrating with the headaches :( I hope that they go away very soon!!
My tooth has been getting a bit worse again :( Im not eating much on that side because of it. I can ignore it pretty good aside from eating on it, when it really lets me know its there. Ah well... hopefully one of these days itll just get better.

Hi Sporthorse! I can't believe we both still have problems with our teeth :( :mad: . I still have the headache and I have this lump in my cheek near where the lower wisdom tooth was pulled. The other side is fine, just the side that was worse and swelled up a lot. The extraction site itself feels ok, but the lump bothers me, I think it is called a hematoma? My mouth just still doesn't feel right, but I wonder if part of it is all the work that was done to it?
I am sorry your tooth is still bothering you, too!!! Are you going to say anything about it at your next appointment?
I hope they got some good impressions from your hubby! Do you have to pay them monthly?
Always good to hear from you..... :wave:

Hi Sporthorse,
I don't know if you still stop in here, just wondering how you are doing??? :) My tooth is still bothering me a bit and when I went in for my cleaning 2 weeks ago the dentist had a look and told me it could take a couple of years for it to feel normal! Yikes, 2 years!!! Hope you are feeling good and your teeth aren't giving you any problems!
Take good care :wave:

HI sporthorse :wave:
Long time no see/write, LOL! I was home for a 4 week visit, so I didn't see your post until now....
My wisdom teeth extraction wasn't so bad in itself, but I had pain for a loooong time and in fact, it still isn't 100%. It must have to do with my age and them being totally impacted. My bothersome tooth still isn't right either, but it is better, so I am hoping that it will continue to get better, like the dentist seems to think. I don't have to go back until January..... we'll see how it feels by then.
How is your husband getting along with his braces? I hope you won't need another root canal, they are so expensive! One year ago I was still living in ignorance, LOL ;) . Never had any pains and now I've had pains since I started getting my teeth fixed, very strange, isn't it? But my dentist says it all looks fine now, go figure!
When do you have to go back?
:wave: Take care and best of luck to you!!! :wave: