bjk47
03-09-2001, 07:26 PM
Hi, I am looking for information on exercise. I have read that aerobic exercise can actually raise blood sugars. But that weight training,ie nautilus? can burn more fat and help with weight loss. Does anyone have any more specifics? Thanks
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fat boy
04-18-2001, 02:07 PM
in the for what it's worth column, exercise reduces my sugars in the long run; i have been able to stop one of my orals by increasing exercise. i have alot of questions about this too, especially since my current reading indicates that my traditional diabetes diet is all wrong for me!
bjk47
04-19-2001, 11:43 PM
Hi, That is great to get off one of the meds. That is my goal, I am on glucophage and avandia. The Dr Bernstein book encourages weight training, I have been trying to get to the gym to do the nautilus, but haven't been able to get there on a regular enough basis.
I definately have better #'s when I am keeping the carbs very low, ie 30-60 grams/day and also getting some sort of exercise.
Boy, how do ya do it though? It seems so much concentration on eating and exercising and life doesn't stand still long enough for me to get this in. It is a balancing act.
I definately have better #'s when I am keeping the carbs very low, ie 30-60 grams/day and also getting some sort of exercise.
Boy, how do ya do it though? It seems so much concentration on eating and exercising and life doesn't stand still long enough for me to get this in. It is a balancing act.
chrismth
04-20-2001, 08:58 AM
Hi!
My thoughts exactly. There are periods of time in my life where I do not have time to walk 2 miles every day and it's only the fact that I work part time, evening shift, that allows me to do it in the first place. This doesn't mean I would otherwise be a slug, but it is very hard to keep up the amount of exercise it seems necessary.
I am getting the impression that diabetes takes over your life. In fact, I know someone who was diagnosed in her thirties and said it was more time consuming than having another child would be . Then there are also people I know who pop a pill once or twice a day and don't worry about anything else.
Chris
My thoughts exactly. There are periods of time in my life where I do not have time to walk 2 miles every day and it's only the fact that I work part time, evening shift, that allows me to do it in the first place. This doesn't mean I would otherwise be a slug, but it is very hard to keep up the amount of exercise it seems necessary.
I am getting the impression that diabetes takes over your life. In fact, I know someone who was diagnosed in her thirties and said it was more time consuming than having another child would be . Then there are also people I know who pop a pill once or twice a day and don't worry about anything else.
Chris
Marie55
04-21-2001, 12:04 AM
Exercise 30 mins. to 1 hrs. after meals will make a drastic difference in BS.
Some people have been able to get off of meds by exercising and watching what they eat.
I am diet and exercise controlled, never been on meds.
For example at noon my BS was 138 and after walking treadmill for 1 mile BS was 87. So, yes, walking down the glucose is well worth the effort.
If you do not have time to walk outside then investment in a treadmill will pay off in great dividends. Hop on for a few minutes here and there and you will be amazed at the difference it makes, of course, along with portion control and keeping fingers out of high glycemic foods and junk foods.
Once you find out which foods raise the sugar level on "you" then you will be home free choosing o.k. foods without having to think about it so hard.
Do not allow "D" to control you, but you control the "D" and postpone or prevent damage to your body.
Do not eat what you want and assume the meds will take care of it. Do your part by losing weight is overweight and watching portions your consume.
See a Certified Diabetes Educator for a meal plan especially for you. Then alter that if too many carbs have been allotted. It is a starting point and then you tailor the plan to your body's needs. We are all different.
Check out the following site. You will finds loads of info. http://www.diabeticgourmet.com
Marie
Some people have been able to get off of meds by exercising and watching what they eat.
I am diet and exercise controlled, never been on meds.
For example at noon my BS was 138 and after walking treadmill for 1 mile BS was 87. So, yes, walking down the glucose is well worth the effort.
If you do not have time to walk outside then investment in a treadmill will pay off in great dividends. Hop on for a few minutes here and there and you will be amazed at the difference it makes, of course, along with portion control and keeping fingers out of high glycemic foods and junk foods.
Once you find out which foods raise the sugar level on "you" then you will be home free choosing o.k. foods without having to think about it so hard.
Do not allow "D" to control you, but you control the "D" and postpone or prevent damage to your body.
Do not eat what you want and assume the meds will take care of it. Do your part by losing weight is overweight and watching portions your consume.
See a Certified Diabetes Educator for a meal plan especially for you. Then alter that if too many carbs have been allotted. It is a starting point and then you tailor the plan to your body's needs. We are all different.
Check out the following site. You will finds loads of info. http://www.diabeticgourmet.com
Marie
chrismth
04-21-2001, 09:43 AM
Hi!
I don't fit in this category, but I would like to know how someone who works full time with a young family can exercise for 30-60 minutes after every meal. I agree, there *are* times when that person *can* exercise, but it won't be consistently. I also agree that exercise definitely has a major effect. I have heard about positive results from too many people and have seen it in myself.
I agree with the food choices. You have control over what you put in your mouth,although it can be hard resisting sometimes if you are surrounded by people, either at home or work, who are can eat anything without much thought about it other than whether or not its fattening.
Chris
I don't fit in this category, but I would like to know how someone who works full time with a young family can exercise for 30-60 minutes after every meal. I agree, there *are* times when that person *can* exercise, but it won't be consistently. I also agree that exercise definitely has a major effect. I have heard about positive results from too many people and have seen it in myself.
I agree with the food choices. You have control over what you put in your mouth,although it can be hard resisting sometimes if you are surrounded by people, either at home or work, who are can eat anything without much thought about it other than whether or not its fattening.
Chris
bjk47
04-22-2001, 10:31 PM
Thanks for the comments Marie and Chris. I feel it a proscess, this living with diabetes. I am finally feeling that sometimes I am in control of it not the other way around. I keep trying ways of being with this disease to get more in control. But yes Chris it is sometimes difficult to resist those goodies. I find my worst times are when I am tired and then especially at work.
I think having this disease is at least equivilent to a part time job. I need to plan my meals, get to the store, cook the meals, make them satisfying, exercise and then all the other stuff in my life. I guess what I am coming to is that I need a certain amount of routine to be in control. When I am tired or don't have good food choices readily available, that is when I do poorly. But that is happening less often. I have slowed down and reprioritized my life. Like Marie said it is better to avoid the complications that to live with them or treat them... Barb
I think having this disease is at least equivilent to a part time job. I need to plan my meals, get to the store, cook the meals, make them satisfying, exercise and then all the other stuff in my life. I guess what I am coming to is that I need a certain amount of routine to be in control. When I am tired or don't have good food choices readily available, that is when I do poorly. But that is happening less often. I have slowed down and reprioritized my life. Like Marie said it is better to avoid the complications that to live with them or treat them... Barb
Dougw
05-04-2001, 01:31 AM
I am type 2 and ride a recumbent bike 10 miles (45 - 50 mins.)a day 5-6 days a week. I can tell you that I have made exercise a regular part of my lifestyle, and the results have been dramatic. Couple with a diet of no more than 60 g. of total carbs per meal, I have lost 40+ pounds, reduced ny cholesterol count by 40 points in the past 3 months, and reduced the size of my blood pressure dosage by 50%. You are right, it is not easy or convenient. But you can do it and the rewards outweigh the sacrifices I have to make. I umpire baseball games for fun, and I am in better shape than I have been in 15 years. Too bad it took Diabetes to make me do this. Good luck, & God bless you. You can do it.
Ken
05-04-2001, 10:18 AM
Let me add my 2 cents to this subject with information provided by Mayo Clinic.
For the most part, exercise lowers blood sugar and lessens insulin resistance which is one of the major problems with Type 2 diabetics. However, especially with Type 1 diabetics (insulin dependent), exercise can actually raise blood sugar levels if exercise is started when the blood sugar level is around 300 or higher.
It is recommended, especially for Type 1's, that they test their blood sugar about a half hour before exercise and just before exercising to get a handle on their blood glucose level so as to determine if they should exercise at that time or need a source of quick acting carbohydrates to avoid their blood sugar from going too low during their exercise session.
As a general rule for everyone, exercise should not be started for at least about an hour after having a full meal. Right after you eat, much of your blood is going to your stomach area, and exercising too soon after a full meal can interfere with digestion.
If you want to burn fat, in other words get rid of extra weight, an exercise session should last at least a half hour. Aerobic type exercise is the best, but you should be able to talk during your exercise. If you cannot talk or are completely out of breath while you exercise, you are overexerting yourself and need to slow down.
Ken
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For the most part, exercise lowers blood sugar and lessens insulin resistance which is one of the major problems with Type 2 diabetics. However, especially with Type 1 diabetics (insulin dependent), exercise can actually raise blood sugar levels if exercise is started when the blood sugar level is around 300 or higher.
It is recommended, especially for Type 1's, that they test their blood sugar about a half hour before exercise and just before exercising to get a handle on their blood glucose level so as to determine if they should exercise at that time or need a source of quick acting carbohydrates to avoid their blood sugar from going too low during their exercise session.
As a general rule for everyone, exercise should not be started for at least about an hour after having a full meal. Right after you eat, much of your blood is going to your stomach area, and exercising too soon after a full meal can interfere with digestion.
If you want to burn fat, in other words get rid of extra weight, an exercise session should last at least a half hour. Aerobic type exercise is the best, but you should be able to talk during your exercise. If you cannot talk or are completely out of breath while you exercise, you are overexerting yourself and need to slow down.
Ken
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phd_1993
05-24-2001, 01:38 PM
Don't you think that it is good to delay the digestion process since sugar gets released slowly in to blood stream
Aldea
06-03-2001, 11:16 PM
I've been a type 1 diabetic for almost 30 years, and I thought I should share my experience with you so that you'll be encouraged to try to keep with the exercise, because it doesn't take as much effort as most would believe to keep in better control and healthier longer. I've already dealt with serious complications (I'm 35), and if it hadn't been with good control through exercise, I might not be typing this...but who knows..
I used to bike and run, but after a couple of low sugar episodes outside, I found it much easier to monitor my bs at a gym or in a group setting (a class). I test before I leave the office, when I get to the gym, after I work out, and before I leave. My gym has a juice bar with fruit etc., so if I over do it and my bs drops, I can eat something there.
Aerobics - like running, biking, a step class etc. - lower bs quite well, but I also lift weights. Weight training has the effect (on me anyway) of maintaining a lower reading for up to 24 hours afterwards; this happens because weight training revs up your metabolism..
I still have ups and downs (and thank you for the posting on not exercising if bs is too high - I'd heard of that), but please, keep moving! Take the stairs, take a walk..keep moving..
We're lucky..We can CONTROL this..Our prognosis is up to us.. Good control through diet and medication is only part of it..keep moving - it saved my sight!
Thanks
I used to bike and run, but after a couple of low sugar episodes outside, I found it much easier to monitor my bs at a gym or in a group setting (a class). I test before I leave the office, when I get to the gym, after I work out, and before I leave. My gym has a juice bar with fruit etc., so if I over do it and my bs drops, I can eat something there.
Aerobics - like running, biking, a step class etc. - lower bs quite well, but I also lift weights. Weight training has the effect (on me anyway) of maintaining a lower reading for up to 24 hours afterwards; this happens because weight training revs up your metabolism..
I still have ups and downs (and thank you for the posting on not exercising if bs is too high - I'd heard of that), but please, keep moving! Take the stairs, take a walk..keep moving..
We're lucky..We can CONTROL this..Our prognosis is up to us.. Good control through diet and medication is only part of it..keep moving - it saved my sight!
Thanks
Ken
06-04-2001, 02:01 AM
According to exercise physiologist with whom I associate, a half hour of exercise with each type of exercise lasting at least 10 minutes 6 days a week is preferred, but you should not exercise for at least an hour after eating a meal because this can interfere with digestion.
Type 2 diabetics usually benefit the most from regular exercise because it lowers insulin resistance.
Ken
Type 2 diabetics usually benefit the most from regular exercise because it lowers insulin resistance.
Ken
phd_1993
06-04-2001, 01:46 PM
Don't you think that interference in digestion is good, since in-digestion means postponement of release of sugar in to blood?????
Ken
06-04-2001, 03:46 PM
All I am saying is that exercising too soon after eating a meal interferes with digestion.
A majority of your blood supply right after eating is directed to your stomach and digestive system. You don't want it directed to your muscles. Ask any doctor about vigourous exercise right after eating a big meal.
Carbohydrates are converted to glucose in the small intestine not in your stomach.
Ken
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A majority of your blood supply right after eating is directed to your stomach and digestive system. You don't want it directed to your muscles. Ask any doctor about vigourous exercise right after eating a big meal.
Carbohydrates are converted to glucose in the small intestine not in your stomach.
Ken
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phd_1993
06-06-2001, 03:38 PM
a) Excercising continously for 25-30 mins is a better approach than b) Excercising 10 mins each 3 times a day at any time. How do you come to this conclusion? Just check your BG with each type and you can see the difference. I have seen that if I choose a) I will decrease my BG level of around 180 (at 1 hr after eating) to 120-130 at 2 hr after eating. If I use b), I will decrease only from 180 to 170-175 at 2 hr. If I follow a), even my sensitivty of cells to insulin will also increase. If I use b), only you will burn the glucose calories. Hence a) is a better approach.
Ken
06-06-2001, 08:36 PM
I see I made a mistake when posting the length of the exercise session.
The exercise session should last at least 30 minutes, but a particular type of exercise should last at least 10 minutes before changing off to another piece of equipment or another type of exercise.
Ken
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The exercise session should last at least 30 minutes, but a particular type of exercise should last at least 10 minutes before changing off to another piece of equipment or another type of exercise.
Ken
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SandyON
01-13-2002, 06:04 PM
Hi....being new to this time consuming, self inflicted Diabetes....I'm wondering about the exercise program. I am trying to walk 2 miles per day but I do it on the way home from work on an inside track (cold up here in Canada). In most of the messages I read that it should be an hour after supper. For you pro's....do you think that walking before supper is beneficial. It's just that I work closer to the track and then instead of back tracking after supper, I do it on the way home from work (I sit at a desk all day).
Anticipating your replies.....thanks!!
Also anyone on Avandia and do you find that it makes you hungry and although you keep control causes a weight gain?
Anticipating your replies.....thanks!!
Also anyone on Avandia and do you find that it makes you hungry and although you keep control causes a weight gain?