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tordek
05-25-2006, 10:59 AM
It's like 3 monthes already that im having the most annoying eye pain, that sometimes, to me , is unbearable.
The doc diagnose was that I am suffering from allergic conjunctivitis And til Now he presecribed me like 5 Types of antihistamin eyedrops.
The eye drops may help a little but my eyes are still abit red, and most important hurts and tearing.
I want to mention that the pain is more painful in the right eye and I sometimes also have pain in the upper eyelid .
I`ve been at 4 eye doctors and all they see is the allergic conjunctivitis.
My main questions are:
Could eye allergy cause Pain around the eyes/pain in the upper eye lid?
Could eye allergy cause pain even it's not really red?
Could eye allergy make you be sensitive to light?
Is it possible for someone to have sinsusitis without a stiffy nose?
Could Immunotherapy elliminate my eye allergy?
What diseases causes pain around the eyes and are there any other tests I should ask my eye doctor to take?

Thanks in Advanced.
BTW:
(I`m a soldier and I am attached to a high amount of the allergans i'm allergic to)

Painfully, Tordek:(

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sneezydiva
05-25-2006, 02:25 PM
Does just the actual eye hurt or do you also have pain surrounding the eye? Do you also have any sinus headaches? The fact that it is more severe in one eye than the other could indicate a sinus infection in one of the sinuses around that eye. And yes, you can have sinusitis without the stuffy nose. Also, have the eliminated the possibility of a bacterial conjunctivitis?

Since you are a soldier, do they allow you to take antihistimines? The eyedrops can only do so much for allergies. For really bad ones, you need something internal. Allegra is non-drowsy and works really well.

Immunotherapy has helped me with all my allergy symptoms. It takes them a while to be fully effective. I can't say it has eliminated my allergies though. I still have to take my meds and use my eyedrops when the pollen is out. But I actually get relief now, when before the medicines never were strong enough.

tordek
05-25-2006, 03:38 PM
Thank you very much for your response.
I`m also having a pain in my head temples and above my eyebrows, Especially the right side of the head.
When a doctor is knocking over the part above the eyebrows it doesn't hurt and also all the regular sinusitis checking ways also haven't showed a sinusitis sign.
Is it still possible I still have sinusitis? I hope i'll be able to check it next week.
Meanwhile I'm using a chinease medicine called bi yang pian if im not mistaken, I take it for about 5 days already, d'ya know this medicine? does it suppose to help?
I started yesterday to take allergy shots, And I hope It'll might help me abit with my pain.
oh and yeah, I do have redness itchiness and watery eyes.
I really apperciate your help.
Thanks .

sneezydiva
05-25-2006, 04:48 PM
Your welcome. You headache could be from a possible infection OR it could be pain from a swollen turbinate in your nose. These are caused by allergies, though sometimes they become permantly enlarged and need to be reduced. I had constant headaches like you described before my turbinate surgery. The ENT said my headaches were caused by the swollen turbinate. The turbinate was the only thing to show up on the sinus CT scan, there was no sinusitis. If you have already had the X-rays, you should request that an ENT look at them.

tordek
05-26-2006, 09:46 AM
Are there any other causes you can think of that causes my eye pain?
In the army I need to be my own doctor and to know what exams I should ask from the doctors or which doctors to go.
Thanks in advance

sneezydiva
05-26-2006, 03:54 PM
I can't think of anything else at the moment. And it sounds like any actual eye problems have been ruled out, since you've seen so many eye doctors. Given your allergies, and the similarity of your symptoms to what I went through, I would demand to see an ENT and if you haven't had one already, get a sinus CT. If you've had one, bring it to the ENT to look at.

My husband is military too, so I know exactly what you are talking about. I hate military doctors. Before I had sinus surgrey, my PCM treated me like a hypochodriac and told me I had anxiety. Right now, we are stationed where the medical clinic is full and can only handle the actual military personnel. Dependents are assigned an out-in-town PCM. It is the best of both worlds, everything is covered, but I have a great doctor.

tordek
05-28-2006, 02:57 PM
The thing is that I dont have headaches the eye pain when i come home.
They start only when im at my army base.
So that MUST mean allergy is causing it.
I read alot of metrial when i'm at the base and i think maybe reading with eye allergy can make severe headaches.
What do you think?
Something else that's bothering me is that i have sore throat that come and goes at the last time.
What do you think?
I`m afraid to take antihistmain eye drops cause it usually makes my eye condition more severe
I'd like to hear your opinion


thanks in advance.

MountainReader
05-28-2006, 03:21 PM
Have you also considered whether or not you have Dry Eye. I have that in addition to the allergic conjunctivitus and sinus problems. The dry eye diagnosis is because my eyes don't produce enough tears to lubricate the eye. It can be painful at times. It also really affects my sensitivity to sunlight. I am receiving treatment from my opthomologist. Constant use of natural tears eye drops helps some. My favorite are Refresh liquigel or Refresh dry eye formula.

sneezydiva
05-28-2006, 05:57 PM
the sore throat could be from post nasal drip, which is a definite allergy symptom. It really sounds like an allergy. When I was in junior high, my school was the problem. Then I would bet home and no more headache.


What do you mean by the drops make your problem more severe? Do you mean eye pain/stinging and tearing? Sometimes there is a worse before it gets better stage with allergies. It's because the tissues are so irritated. Maybe you could pick a weekend to start the drops, and see how it goes.

tordek
05-29-2006, 03:42 AM
I also thought about taking allergy antihistmanic pills, I used loratidine and lorastine til now and it did not help , I also did my allergy tests while i took these pills and there were still allergy signs.
Does anybody has an experience with pills which helped him with allergic eyes\or someone that immunotherapy vanished his eye allergy almost completely?

sneezydiva
05-31-2006, 09:32 PM
The antihistimines you took don't work for a lot of people. You need them to prescribe Allegra. It is non-drowsy but works much, much better. Zyrtec works the best, but can make you drowsy, so with your job, I doubt they'll prescribe it. Make it clear that the loratidine and lorastine doesn't work for you. Allegra is the most expensive as far as the military is concerned, so they are sometimes stingy about prescribing it. Be persistant.

My eye allergy does respond to my Zyrtec, but not completely. I still need the eyedrop. The shots have helped too. Mine used to be so bad, a regular doctor thought I had bacterial conjunctivitis.

Which eyedrops have you tried? My doctor prescribed Patanol which I have to get in town and use my co-pay for. But it is worth it. It works the best and never irritates. it is technically not an antihistimine, but a mast cell inhibitor which is the precurser to histimine. So it stops the allergic reaction before it can start.

tordek
06-19-2006, 04:07 PM
Your welcome. You headache could be from a possible infection OR it could be pain from a swollen turbinate in your nose. These are caused by allergies, though sometimes they become permantly enlarged and need to be reduced. I had constant headaches like you described before my turbinate surgery. The ENT said my headaches were caused by the swollen turbinate. The turbinate was the only thing to show up on the sinus CT scan, there was no sinusitis. If you have already had the X-rays, you should request that an ENT look at them.
Man you were right my turbinate are indeed swollen.
The problem is that the ent only opened my nose looked at it and gave me steroid nasal spray, I need you to tell me what tests do I need to demand him to make me. I use the nasal spray for 2 days already and it doesn't help, I also heard steroids are dangerous PLEASE give me your advice

elmhar
06-19-2006, 07:56 PM
Hi Tordek,

Usually its hoped that prescription steroid use will not be long term. Systemic steroids (pills or shots) have overall more potentially serious side effects than local steroids (like sinus sprays). Though, even local steroids depress the immune system some & can make sinuses more prone to infection.

I'm not a sinus expert, but have been there with the chronic allergic conjunctivitis. If you haven't been seen by an ophthamologist (medical doctor: eye specialist), that's the person who can help you. If antihistamine eye drops don't work, you may benefit from cortisone (steroid) eye drops. But only ophthamologists dispense them, after making sure you don't have any glaucoma or eye pressure problems. Cortisone drops are effective very quickly.

Best wishes.

tordek
06-20-2006, 04:59 PM
I don't know what to do I have a pain in the right eye that I can not really explain it's above the right eye i dont know if its behind the upper eyelid but ITS driving me CRAZY

BPJD36
06-23-2006, 06:55 PM
ive experienced same thing you have , only with my eyes though and sneezing..my eye lids bother me , right above my eyelids to hurt , near the sinus's...it almost feels like some1 is blowing wind into my eye ya kno...i have nt been to a doctor i may need shots i know when i was younger i did...and plus i work at a park and that dont help any

puckluvr
06-28-2006, 03:24 AM
Your welcome. You headache could be from a possible infection OR it could be pain from a swollen turbinate in your nose. These are caused by allergies, though sometimes they become permantly enlarged and need to be reduced. I had constant headaches like you described before my turbinate surgery. The ENT said my headaches were caused by the swollen turbinate. The turbinate was the only thing to show up on the sinus CT scan, there was no sinusitis. If you have already had the X-rays, you should request that an ENT look at them.


I also get horrible hedaches which are mostly pinpointed to be the worst at the eyebrow area and particularly painful at the pressure point or notch located along the eyebrow . The pain can work it's way out from there and there might be pain in the surrounding areas of the eye as well.
It feels somewhat better to lightly massage the area where the pain is worst and it is usually on one side or the other and on occasion both sides at once. Any ideas ?

tordek
07-01-2006, 06:30 PM
I also get horrible hedaches which are mostly pinpointed to be the worst at the eyebrow area and particularly painful at the pressure point or notch located along the eyebrow . The pain can work it's way out from there and there might be pain in the surrounding areas of the eye as well.
It feels somewhat better to lightly massage the area where the pain is worst and it is usually on one side or the other and on occasion both sides at once. Any ideas ?

I got the exact same symptoms , Please let me know how you treated your problem.





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