Johna
05-28-2006, 09:34 PM
Is a person with add/adhd dense?
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SuchGreatHeight
05-29-2006, 12:15 AM
It depends on what you mean by "dense"? But generally, I'd have to say no. If you mean slow to learn, it depends on the person; and how that person learns and how AD(H)D affects that person.
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rheanna
05-29-2006, 03:18 AM
Johna,
Some of us cannot learn the details of a new skill or concept until we have learned a structure that holds the details -- we need to have a tree with all its branches BEFORE we can "hang" the leaves on it. My DH (as well as many other peole I know) can remember details and use them even before they understand the concepts behind the details. I can't.
So it looks like we (with ADD) are slow to learn, which is true, but because we eventually have a good grasp of the structure of something and therefore know where in that structure to put the details, we often have a really good understanding of the issue -- a good overall view and a good understanding of what to do when something out-of-the-ordinary comes through. We can look at the structure, and say, hey, that new thing logically goes HERE, so this is a good way to handle it. People who just collect details often don't know what to do with something new.
So, yes it takes us a while to get to that point (a source of frustration to our co-workers and teachers and acquaintances), but there really ARE advantages to our brain structures.
No, we're not dense. Just different.
--Rheanna
Some of us cannot learn the details of a new skill or concept until we have learned a structure that holds the details -- we need to have a tree with all its branches BEFORE we can "hang" the leaves on it. My DH (as well as many other peole I know) can remember details and use them even before they understand the concepts behind the details. I can't.
So it looks like we (with ADD) are slow to learn, which is true, but because we eventually have a good grasp of the structure of something and therefore know where in that structure to put the details, we often have a really good understanding of the issue -- a good overall view and a good understanding of what to do when something out-of-the-ordinary comes through. We can look at the structure, and say, hey, that new thing logically goes HERE, so this is a good way to handle it. People who just collect details often don't know what to do with something new.
So, yes it takes us a while to get to that point (a source of frustration to our co-workers and teachers and acquaintances), but there really ARE advantages to our brain structures.
No, we're not dense. Just different.
--Rheanna
Johna
05-29-2006, 10:41 PM
I left a form in my car instead of bringing it into the building because I knew I would need to complete the form at home. The principal said that I was dense.
rheanna
05-30-2006, 01:35 AM
johna,
Just because someone calls you a rude name (like "dense") does not mean that you are what they say. It means that they are being rude. Making you feel bad allows them to feel superior to you. It does not mean that they are right.
--Rheanna
Just because someone calls you a rude name (like "dense") does not mean that you are what they say. It means that they are being rude. Making you feel bad allows them to feel superior to you. It does not mean that they are right.
--Rheanna
smz3
05-30-2006, 05:20 PM
I left a form in my car instead of bringing it into the building because I knew I would need to complete the form at home. The principal said that I was dense.
Gosh...that principal sounds unprofessional.
Gosh...that principal sounds unprofessional.
Johna
06-01-2006, 12:36 AM
Thank you for the replies to my post :) I let people's comments about me get to me to often and I shouldn't.
rheanna
06-01-2006, 12:49 AM
Johna,
Remember the old saying: "sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me!" Of course this isn't totally true, but it's a step in the right direction. People's comments affect us because humans are social creatures and naturally want to be liked and accepted by other people. One of the things we learn as we get older is that people say things for many reasons, and sometimes their purpose is to make others feel bad. Rude words will always hurt, but with practice you can learn to let them hurt less, and remind yourself that you know from other areas of your life that you are a fine person. You can learn to be hurt by the rudeness, but not hurt in your belief in yourself.
You did good to look for someone else's view of whether you're dense or not. I hope you've chosen our "nicer" view of you, rather than the rude one!
--Rheanna
Remember the old saying: "sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me!" Of course this isn't totally true, but it's a step in the right direction. People's comments affect us because humans are social creatures and naturally want to be liked and accepted by other people. One of the things we learn as we get older is that people say things for many reasons, and sometimes their purpose is to make others feel bad. Rude words will always hurt, but with practice you can learn to let them hurt less, and remind yourself that you know from other areas of your life that you are a fine person. You can learn to be hurt by the rudeness, but not hurt in your belief in yourself.
You did good to look for someone else's view of whether you're dense or not. I hope you've chosen our "nicer" view of you, rather than the rude one!
--Rheanna
busterangel
06-01-2006, 05:49 PM
Words can be very powerful and very hurtful. When you have ADD or some other "difference" people find it necessary to label you with unflattering names. Mostly out of ignorance and insensitivity.
Adders tend to be more sensitive in how we react to these names and to criticism. Others can shake it off, we can't as easily. We tend to dwell on the name-calling and unfortunately take it to heart. And at times we start to believe what others say about us.
I can't say just ignore them because I am 55 and I still have a hard time with criticism.
Try to remember that just because you might forget something or not do something in a "logical" or "linear" fashion you are NOT dense. Adders tend to be highly intelligent and creative people. It is a gift and someday you will be glad you are different.
WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, even and especially authority figures.
Adders tend to be more sensitive in how we react to these names and to criticism. Others can shake it off, we can't as easily. We tend to dwell on the name-calling and unfortunately take it to heart. And at times we start to believe what others say about us.
I can't say just ignore them because I am 55 and I still have a hard time with criticism.
Try to remember that just because you might forget something or not do something in a "logical" or "linear" fashion you are NOT dense. Adders tend to be highly intelligent and creative people. It is a gift and someday you will be glad you are different.
WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, even and especially authority figures.
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06-02-2006, 10:21 AM
Johna, your principal's comment was entirely inappropriate. Do NOT take it to heart. Some of the most intellligent people of all time have had ADD. Having ADD does NOT make a person dense!