phix95
05-29-2006, 08:18 PM
And I mean like in the back of my throat, not that my stomach hurts all the time. The best way I can think of to describe it is if you picture when you would force yourself to vomit by putting your finger down your throat and pushing...(I've never actually done this tho), and how your throat opens up. That's what it feels like especially when I'm yawning. Like something might come up.
I do have post nasal drip but I've had that for like 20 years and never had this problem. I have anxiety too. I hate this feeling and have also a limited appetite over the past week. I'm on Nasacort, singulair, and zyrtec...its what my doc has given me for this problem. (When I got the meds, I was also complaining of dizzyness, and fullness in my head)
He thinks its due to the post nasal...I just dont know.
Please please help.
I do have post nasal drip but I've had that for like 20 years and never had this problem. I have anxiety too. I hate this feeling and have also a limited appetite over the past week. I'm on Nasacort, singulair, and zyrtec...its what my doc has given me for this problem. (When I got the meds, I was also complaining of dizzyness, and fullness in my head)
He thinks its due to the post nasal...I just dont know.
Please please help.
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Sunlover
05-29-2006, 08:34 PM
May be "globus" from anxiety - I had that in 2002, it was HORRIBLE!! Sometimes I'd even gag THINKING I was going to puke just to get it out of there, but nothing was there! You may be getting spasms in the gag reflex area too, that is another kind of problem I get, that isn't the lump puke feeling, it was more of a sensation of an impending gag.
phix95
05-29-2006, 09:36 PM
Thankyou.
That's awful!! I do have stuff in my throat but it has never been a prob. b4. What can I do? I go to the doc tomorrow.
I dont know if its exactly the same as that... and could it be something else?
I started getting anxious about it like, last Wed. It is making me more anxious. But I was not anxious to begin with, eg, I dont think anxiety CAUSED it.
I feel it even more when I yawn.
It feels awful and I'm always scared I'm gonna puke.
That's awful!! I do have stuff in my throat but it has never been a prob. b4. What can I do? I go to the doc tomorrow.
I dont know if its exactly the same as that... and could it be something else?
I started getting anxious about it like, last Wed. It is making me more anxious. But I was not anxious to begin with, eg, I dont think anxiety CAUSED it.
I feel it even more when I yawn.
It feels awful and I'm always scared I'm gonna puke.
phix95
05-30-2006, 07:15 PM
i went to the doc and he gave me prevacid and said to go off the other meds. He wants me to do an upper GI (ive done them twice before). Then go to an ear nose, throat doctor. I am anxious and scared over this and I feel very alone b/c I dont know what it is and I feel like no one understands. I can barely eat. Any help?
Sunlover
05-30-2006, 07:59 PM
If it is what I had NO stomach pill is going to work (they gave me Prevacid, Reglan (I think that was the name) and nothing worked - except Xanax! Another thing to see if it is a spasm (which did work for me only after months of suffering with it), is look way up at the ceiling by lifting your neck as high as it will go, stretching that area as hard as you can. If it's a spasm it should "release" a few minutes. I wouldn't go for any kinds of tests until you see what happens first. It also COULD be mucus, so just hang in there for a bit! How long has this been going on? If it's something like GERD, then the Prevacid WILL work. So just take it one step at a time.
phix95
05-30-2006, 09:30 PM
Thank you so much for answering me.
Ok to answer your questions:
-I've been on Xanax for about 13 years for panic. I'm only taking .5 mg/day. I'm also on Prozac (about 10 yrs)
-I did that "look up" thing...and I didnt feel any release, or what I could identify as such...
-as far as tests...iyo, how long should I wait? I'm actually switching insurances (i only work part time, looking for fulltime) b/c mine doesnt cover barely anything. It wont take effect for at least another week.
-I feel like its mucus, phlegm, and crap from my p.n.d...but would that cause such a huge reaction when i yawn? It's like when that part of the throat opens up, I feel like everythings gonna come up. I feel nauseous all the time but its bad when i yawn. i've never thrown up from pnd before so why now? I also feel the nausea in the middle of my chest. But not like a indigestion thing.
-It's been mild for about 3 weeks. Last 2 days, its been worse.
Went to my psychyitrist today (she wanted me to come right in) and she thinks its my anxiety. But the thing is, I didnt get anxious until it got worse.
Ok to answer your questions:
-I've been on Xanax for about 13 years for panic. I'm only taking .5 mg/day. I'm also on Prozac (about 10 yrs)
-I did that "look up" thing...and I didnt feel any release, or what I could identify as such...
-as far as tests...iyo, how long should I wait? I'm actually switching insurances (i only work part time, looking for fulltime) b/c mine doesnt cover barely anything. It wont take effect for at least another week.
-I feel like its mucus, phlegm, and crap from my p.n.d...but would that cause such a huge reaction when i yawn? It's like when that part of the throat opens up, I feel like everythings gonna come up. I feel nauseous all the time but its bad when i yawn. i've never thrown up from pnd before so why now? I also feel the nausea in the middle of my chest. But not like a indigestion thing.
-It's been mild for about 3 weeks. Last 2 days, its been worse.
Went to my psychyitrist today (she wanted me to come right in) and she thinks its my anxiety. But the thing is, I didnt get anxious until it got worse.
phix95
05-31-2006, 11:53 PM
Well I am getting an upper GI series done fri. I bet they find nothing. Im still scared. I want this crap to go away.
Sunlover
06-01-2006, 07:11 AM
You never did say how long this was going on - if it were only a week or so, I'd wait on the tests. And how about an endoscopy? That would show a lot more and it is absolutely NOTHING (I had one in Dec. and was freaking out - but I'd go for one tomorrow again, NO problem!) - I'm sure they'll find nothing anyway, nothing BAD anyway! An irritation definitely could cause that and like I said GERD or mucus BOTH could cause irritation. Hang in there! Let me know how you make out!
aswander
06-01-2006, 08:00 AM
Globus is a symptom of a specific form of acid reflux called LPR (Larygopharyngeal reflux). Most LPR sufferers do not experience heartburn, but instead the acid reflux occurs in their throat, causing 1 or more of the following symptoms: globus, difficulty swallowing/something "stuck" in throat, chronic cough, sinusitis-like symptoms, asthma-like symptoms not responsive to asthma threatments). Note that I said "1 or more", many people get just 1 of these symptoms.
There is a message board here called "Acid Reflux". You should read the posts with "LPR" in the message or do a search on that board for "LPR".
It is treatable with 2 doses per day of a PPI (Prevacid, Nexium, Aciphex), NOT 1 DOSE. Timing is also important - for instance, I must take my 2 Nexium together in the morning, but other people sometimes take 1 in the morning and 1 at at night).
There is a message board here called "Acid Reflux". You should read the posts with "LPR" in the message or do a search on that board for "LPR".
It is treatable with 2 doses per day of a PPI (Prevacid, Nexium, Aciphex), NOT 1 DOSE. Timing is also important - for instance, I must take my 2 Nexium together in the morning, but other people sometimes take 1 in the morning and 1 at at night).
phix95
06-02-2006, 04:10 PM
Sunlover:
I did say how long I've had this 2 posts ago:
"It's been mild for about 3 weeks. Last 2 days, its been worse"
I have had an endoscopy done (is that the one where they go down your throat or up the other end? I've had both about 3 years ago, and again 13 years ago; the most recent time, I was awake b/c the doc is a damn moron and I was pulling the scope out of my stomach b/c, well duh, I was AWAKE! It was painful, scary, absolutely terrible)
I had the upper GI series today and that sucked. Wow I almost puked up that liquid chalk. I couldnt even drink it all.
aswander:
Well, if your'e talking about the feeling of a lump in your throat, like when you're crying, that's not what this is.
I feel like my throat will open up and I will puke. Im stifling all my yawns b/c I cannot stand the feeling. Sorta feel like my glands on the side of my throat are close together.
There is constant crap in my throat and chest. I am not coughing, barely at all. I can breathe fine. Just clearing my throat, as Ive always done due the the mucus and chronic rhinitis.
Thank you for insight. Please, if you have any other ideas, post them!
God, I wish I could just be unconscience until this goes away.
Oh, and would an ear nose throat doc be able to diagnose this better?
I did say how long I've had this 2 posts ago:
"It's been mild for about 3 weeks. Last 2 days, its been worse"
I have had an endoscopy done (is that the one where they go down your throat or up the other end? I've had both about 3 years ago, and again 13 years ago; the most recent time, I was awake b/c the doc is a damn moron and I was pulling the scope out of my stomach b/c, well duh, I was AWAKE! It was painful, scary, absolutely terrible)
I had the upper GI series today and that sucked. Wow I almost puked up that liquid chalk. I couldnt even drink it all.
aswander:
Well, if your'e talking about the feeling of a lump in your throat, like when you're crying, that's not what this is.
I feel like my throat will open up and I will puke. Im stifling all my yawns b/c I cannot stand the feeling. Sorta feel like my glands on the side of my throat are close together.
There is constant crap in my throat and chest. I am not coughing, barely at all. I can breathe fine. Just clearing my throat, as Ive always done due the the mucus and chronic rhinitis.
Thank you for insight. Please, if you have any other ideas, post them!
God, I wish I could just be unconscience until this goes away.
Oh, and would an ear nose throat doc be able to diagnose this better?
aswander
06-02-2006, 04:28 PM
Phix95,
With that additional description, I strongly urge you to undergo treatment for the LPR form of acid reflux. The worst that can happen is that the meds don't work and you move on. LPR does not require a lot of fancy tests. Most doctors (who know about the condition) consider a positive response to the medication a diagnosis (albeit indirect) in itself. And all you need to do is take 2 doses of a PPI every day. But there are 4 PPIs on the market, and you may need to experiment to find the one that works best for you. I recommend trying them in this order: Nexium, Aciphex, Prevacid, Protonix. I also recommend taking the pills together first thing in the morning.
It would be helpful visiting an ENT, because an ENT can scope your throat and tell you if you have any redness or swelling on or near your larynx. Laryngeal redness and swelling is a telltale sign of LPR. This is an in-office procedure that doesn't hurt, and only requires that you inhale a numbing spray.
I understand that you did the GI scopes and that you don't have GERD. If you had the GERD form of acid reflux, you would likely have damage in your esophogous. But LPR damage is typically localized in the larygeal and pharyngeal areas. We don't really know why yet, other than theorizing that the upper esophageal spinchter has pooped out and is letting acid into the throat. LPR damage is literally a higher level of damage, and GERD damage occurs lower down in the esophogous.
I suspect that your feeling of needing to yak has something to do with weakness in the upper esophageal spinchter area.
You don't need to visit an ENT in order to get a prescription for a double dose of a PPI. Even your PCP can prescribe a double dose for you, or give you free samples.
Usually, if it isn't true sinusitis, and it isn't true asthma, it all comes down to acid reflux, which can give you symptoms of both, but not respond to treatments for either.
It's a horrible condition that destroys lives without treatment, something that the medical community is finally waking up to. It is devastating, and interferes with a person's entire quality of life.
With that additional description, I strongly urge you to undergo treatment for the LPR form of acid reflux. The worst that can happen is that the meds don't work and you move on. LPR does not require a lot of fancy tests. Most doctors (who know about the condition) consider a positive response to the medication a diagnosis (albeit indirect) in itself. And all you need to do is take 2 doses of a PPI every day. But there are 4 PPIs on the market, and you may need to experiment to find the one that works best for you. I recommend trying them in this order: Nexium, Aciphex, Prevacid, Protonix. I also recommend taking the pills together first thing in the morning.
It would be helpful visiting an ENT, because an ENT can scope your throat and tell you if you have any redness or swelling on or near your larynx. Laryngeal redness and swelling is a telltale sign of LPR. This is an in-office procedure that doesn't hurt, and only requires that you inhale a numbing spray.
I understand that you did the GI scopes and that you don't have GERD. If you had the GERD form of acid reflux, you would likely have damage in your esophogous. But LPR damage is typically localized in the larygeal and pharyngeal areas. We don't really know why yet, other than theorizing that the upper esophageal spinchter has pooped out and is letting acid into the throat. LPR damage is literally a higher level of damage, and GERD damage occurs lower down in the esophogous.
I suspect that your feeling of needing to yak has something to do with weakness in the upper esophageal spinchter area.
You don't need to visit an ENT in order to get a prescription for a double dose of a PPI. Even your PCP can prescribe a double dose for you, or give you free samples.
Usually, if it isn't true sinusitis, and it isn't true asthma, it all comes down to acid reflux, which can give you symptoms of both, but not respond to treatments for either.
It's a horrible condition that destroys lives without treatment, something that the medical community is finally waking up to. It is devastating, and interferes with a person's entire quality of life.
phix95
06-03-2006, 01:06 AM
aswander: are you a doc or just have exp. w/this?
I thought it was maybe caused by my post nasal drip.
I have an appt. with an ent on Mon (2 days...god i cant stand waiting!) and I'll show what you suggested. Just opening my mouth wide causes vomit feelings so I think I'd have to be put out for looking in throat...
And I dont feel any acid...Im not doubting you, i'm just trying to be clear. The vomit feeling is killing me...I cannot do anything and I cannot even get it looked at for 2 days...thats like eternity!
And if that is what it is, why now? ive not been doing anything different. My doc has always told me my throat never looks "right" b/c of the post nasal drip. And nothing seems to work on that....
I thought it was maybe caused by my post nasal drip.
I have an appt. with an ent on Mon (2 days...god i cant stand waiting!) and I'll show what you suggested. Just opening my mouth wide causes vomit feelings so I think I'd have to be put out for looking in throat...
And I dont feel any acid...Im not doubting you, i'm just trying to be clear. The vomit feeling is killing me...I cannot do anything and I cannot even get it looked at for 2 days...thats like eternity!
And if that is what it is, why now? ive not been doing anything different. My doc has always told me my throat never looks "right" b/c of the post nasal drip. And nothing seems to work on that....
phix95
06-07-2006, 12:40 AM
I went to the EMT and he put a scope up my nose and said I had acid up by my vocal chords and to double my Prevacid. He also said to take Acidopholus and nasal spray. And, said I should get a brain scan.
Thing is, I dont think that is what is causing this. It has not gotten one iota better.
aswander, you say my espophgeal sphincter may be pooped...what can I do about that? I just feel in my gut that the acid thing isnt what this is. It is SUCH a hack-up feeling...I cant stand it. I did lose a job over this.
He said most ppl who have what he thinks I have feel it around the part where the protrution is in your throat, you know the hump? But I feel it higher up.
This always happens to me...I never get a normal "sickness" and end up having to live with it. Well i am not living with this ****.
Thing is, I dont think that is what is causing this. It has not gotten one iota better.
aswander, you say my espophgeal sphincter may be pooped...what can I do about that? I just feel in my gut that the acid thing isnt what this is. It is SUCH a hack-up feeling...I cant stand it. I did lose a job over this.
He said most ppl who have what he thinks I have feel it around the part where the protrution is in your throat, you know the hump? But I feel it higher up.
This always happens to me...I never get a normal "sickness" and end up having to live with it. Well i am not living with this ****.