well, i spoke with my dr a few days ago and considering i did so good with quitting smoking (as did dh) and i did all the prelimanary stuff in the last 2 mos i can start ivf in my july cycle... i will have mock transfer june 29.. then when i get af in july i go for day 3 u/s and day 20 i start lupron (they dont have me on bcp) then 8-14 days later i should get another af, then i will start my stims (gonal f, and repronex) then er/et in mid to end of august... i just called to ask about the freezing bc i do not believe in discarding embryos, and i was told that it was $600 and $45 a month.. if im doing icsi can i ask them to only fertlize 2 ?? i know if the first time doesnt work, id have to start from scratch, but atleast i wouldnt have to deal with the moral issues of not using them all.. ahhh any help or advice would be great.. oh yea and any1 else having er in august??? :bouncing: :bouncing: :bouncing:

Fertilizing just 2 would be risky. You can expect to lose 50% of your fertilized embryos (at least that's what I've been told to expect next week). Depending on your age, they'll likely try to fertilize 8 or more (as many as they can).

Thanks For Ur Reply!! This Is So Difficult, Because I Am Only 24 And I Am Frightened To Fertilize So Many, Because What Happens If A Lot Do Fertilize!! This Is Hard.. I Love Children And Desperatley Want To Start Our Family, But I Dont Want To Feel I Have To Try Again And Again Because I Refuse To Discard The Frozen Embies And The Whole Donating Them I Think Is A Wonderful Thing, But It Is Tough, Because Its Like Hi-tech Adoption.. Kfksd;kfl;dskf;lsdkl;f
That Was Just Frustration Typing. Any1 Else Feel This Way??

Is your issue male factor? Did you ever consider or try an IUI cycle? Just wondering.

Asprousey - I wanted to let you know that I understand your frustration. My RE did tell me that they would only fertilize between 2 and 4 eggs with a good chance that you would get 1 or 2 to survive. I think when you are doing ICSI the chance of fertililzation is much higher than allowing them to fertilize on their own. Ask your doctor and let them know what YOU are thinking - you might be suprised at what they can do for you to help ease your mind.

Baby dust!!!
~ravae

Asprousey05...glad to hear that you and DH have done so well with the no smoking (been there, done that) and are able to move up the IVF. Are you excited to start sooner? Your schedule sounds exactly like mine was/is. Good luck to you!!!

FYI: DH and I also believe in NOT discarding any frozen embies. So we discussed this with our RE so they are aware. We have promised ourself that however many are frozen, they would all be given a chance. Granted that 50% won't survive the thawing..the other 50% we have promised to give them a chance and do a FET. Also if our 1st IVF doesn't work, we would utilize all the frozen embies before moving on to another fresh. Anyways....I guess as long as we all stay true to ourself and our beliefs/morals because there is no right or wrong answer.

Asprouse (sp???)

I understand your dilema as well. Although I am not in the IVF process yet, I am sure that my DH and I will feel similar. What you and your DH believe and are comfortable with is what you should do. I hope you feel like you can come to the board and be supported and not scrutinized. Hang in there!!!! Good luck and baby dust to you!

koukla

thank you everyone for your replies... chjh- yes we do have severe male factor issues and were told we have just as much chance naturally as we would if we did iui... therefore we are going straight to ivf/icsi...
sharon- actually i am proud of myself for my moral issues, and please do not attack me for that.. my number one goal is to have a happy healthy baby and i will spend whatever money i have to in the process, and do whatever is the most safe, but i will donate my embryos before i discard them, or have lots of kids even if its not what i planned. and its not about being a religious fanatic at all (im far from it) and i believe things will work out in the end... but like karenn said this board is not about discussing beliefs, politics, etc.
for everyone who gave me the odds it makes me feel better to know that there probably wont be like 20 :) im happy that there is this science out there to help women get pregnant, and that i now have chance to have my own child, but if it does not work out, i would love to adopt a child :D im going for my mock transfer in a week, then beginning of july i start counting the days until lupron :) getting excited and scared! :dizzy:

I forgot to mention that they are progressing on the techniques of freezing unfertilized eggs so you might want to find a clinic that can do this, or wait a few years until it's more widespread. It may take more transfers to get pregnant because they will only unfreeze a couple at a time and then if they don't fertilize then that cycle is wasted. But it does avoid the dilemma altogether. But at most clinics any compromise you make to avoid having extras (assuming you wouldn't release them for adoption) will also diminish your chances. But it's your body, your money, your time, and your choice. I just think it's unthinkable to not maximize your chances after what I've endured.

If you have a good doctor, his/her position should be that you are in charge, but with informed consent. For instance I was offered the chance to "throw in" the probably doomed ones along with the good ones they picked for transfer. And then they need to inform you of the bleak stats like (acc to a ChiTrib article last year) JUST ONE OUT OF 16 extracted eggs will become a baby. That's after you factor in how many will fail to fertilize, how many will not be good enough to transfer or freeze, how many will not survive freezing, and how many will be miscarried. So that to me is a strong motivation to create as many as I can.

I think doctors are not always good about giving you the bad news, like just how utterly common it is to fail IVF or to miscarry.

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if im doing icsi can i ask them to only fertlize 2 ??
oh yea and any1 else having er in august???

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