I haven't been visiting these boards in awhile so maybe none of u remember me but..I'm Jennah and I have been trying to do the taper thing for a few very frustrating months.I was addicted to oxy.,hydro,norco..etc.10-12 per day for a few yrs.anyway I think I 1st posted back in April...Need Some advice. Since then it has been a back and forth shuffle that I kept loosing.So here I am today and it's my 3rd day on the Suboxone 16mg per day and I actually feel pretty good:bouncing: I have been reading what others have to say about Suboxone and it is alittle confussing?I guess my greatest fear was always the wd's and this has allowed me to by pass all of that and not use ANY pain meds for 4 days!! Hopefully I won't need to stay on this for a prolonged period of time?? I don't have cravings @ all at least for now? The worst part was having to be 36hrs. into withdrawl before I could start on the Suboxone.So I just wanted to share that and maybe someone else is where I am or remembers me and wants to say hey!!!Thanks,Jennah I almost forgot...This step has caused me to finally tell my husband what I have been up to for the past 3+ yrs. that was such a relief to finally tell him about my addiction!!
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ozzybug
07-23-2006, 10:56 AM
Jenna-
He girl! It's good to hear that you are doing ok with the sub taper. I know this is a scary thing for you, but I'm so glad you talked about it with your husband. It sounds like he is going to stand by you and support you in your journey to get off the pills. It's not easy to admit and tell anyone about your addiction, but it's the right thing to do. Accepting and admitting a problem is a key step in finding a solution and correcting it.
I wish you the very best of luck, and am sending positive vibes and thoughts for healing, recovery, support and comfort during your road to getting off the pills. Be strong, and know that this will get better. You will find so much support here.
Please do keep us posted sweetie. Have a great day!
Lezlee
Jennah
07-23-2006, 11:28 AM
Hey...Thanks for the words of encouragement!! I am not trying to taper off the suboxone though. I think I rambled a bit and may have sounded confussing.I was trying to taper off the oxy,norco etc. for about 3 mos. going back and forth and never winning. At that point NO 1 in my life even knew I took the pain meds.So this past Wed. I went to see a Dr. and started the suboxone.I have only been on tham since Wed. and I am definately feeling some better. Then I read some of the posts about suboxone and thought yikes!!! Now what have I gotten myself twisted around:dizzy: !! I am hoping we all respond differently to this drug and hoping it continues to allow me to step off the merry go round for good!! I haven't had any oxy's for 5 days and no cravings which is pretty amazing to me. So anyway I just wanted to clear that up a bit.If anyone can tell me more about the suboxone that would be great...and thanks again for the good wishes!! That is why I love this board so much.The people on here have always been life savers for me when ya need it!! Jennah
ozzybug
07-23-2006, 12:24 PM
Jennah-
(Sorry I misspelled your name the first time :p )
Anyway, I mentioned the taper from sub because, if I'm not mistaken, I think when used for rehabilitating off of other medications, sub is tapered from as well. I might be wrong, so anyone please do correct me if that's the case because I don't want to ever give the wrong information.
Either way I wish you the absolute best in your recovery sweetie. It took a lot of guts to bring this out to your husband. I admire your courage. Living any kind of secret can be so stressful, and once it's all out in the open, you can really and truly deal with it and get the support you need and deserve.
Good Luck!! :wave:
Lezlee
lovey1
07-26-2006, 04:39 AM
Hi Jennah,
I also have not been around these boards for a long while. For some reason I decided to check in tonight. Maybe it was to see your post and help shed some light on the suboxone confusion you've been having.
I think I stopped visiting the boards here because I also was reading some of the posts about suboxone and , like you, they were scaring me and making me think "what have I gotten myself into?". I needed to really trust my gut instinct that was telling me to stay with the suboxone and give it a try.
I'm so glad I did!
A little background on me: I was also addicted to Hydros and found my self on a roller coaster ride of withdrawing, staying clean for a while, and then eventually, relapsing. After several go rounds like this, and desperate, I decided to try the suboxone as I had read so many positive things about it. I had been through treatment and still couldn't get past the cravings so I knew I had to do something or I was going to lose everyone and everything that was important to me. It wasn't until after I started the program, that I began reading all the horrible w/d stories involved with sub.
I have now been on the sub for almost 2 1/2 years. While many people may think this is a long time, I feel that it has given me my life back. I went from being a totally irresponsible Wife, Mother (3 young children at home), Daughter and friend to being "me" again. I honestly can say I have no regrets whatsoever in my decision to take Suboxone. I currently take 12 mgs. daily and have found that over time, any side effects that I first had are totally gone. It has improved my emotional state and helps keep my back pain (the reason I started on pain meds in the first place) in check. Today, I am a happy, reasonably well-adjusted person and no-longer withdrawn and depressed. I rarely think about using hydros and have NO cravings what-so-ever. I honestly didn't think I would ever live a "normal" life again. Even thinking about it now seems like a very distant nightmare. I realize there will be a day in the distant future when I may feel it is time to stop taking the Sub, but for now my mantra is "if it ain't broke, why fix it?" I don't feel like I'm using the Suboxone as a crutch and my Doctor and I are in complete agreement about however long I feel I need to take it. I go once a month for my prescription and my insurance covers most of it, so I'm very blessed in that regard. The one down fall of the program is the high cost involved.
Please feel free to ask me any questions about Suboxone. I'd be happy to help. While I'm no expert, I definately have been on it long enough to know quite a bit about it.
As for now, my advice to you would be to trust you instincts. I believe you will find that Suboxone will certainly be all you'd hoped it would be.
Good Luck to you! I've been where you are right now, and there really is light at the end of the tunnel. Your life is waiting for you, and it can be better than you ever imagined it could be !!
:angel: ,
Mary Beth
Jennah
08-03-2006, 11:52 AM
Hey Marybeth!! Thanks for the info. I have now been on the suboxone for 2wks. I started out @ 20mgs. per day and now for about 5 days I have been taking 16mgs. and I feel fine. Great actually:blob_fire I can't believe I have had NO oxy's for 15 days!! I don't have any cravings either.I mean my mind does wander @ times of coarse but no real strong urges to go back to using.I do have fears that this will become a crutch and I will not be able to stop when the time comes but that's why I appreciate what u said ..the fact that you have been on it for 2yrs. you must know what you are talking about.I go today to have my first counseling therapy which is pretty much required to have the Dr. prescribe sub.I am not real excited about the meeting but who knows maybe it too will be great and again I will be suprised.What dose did you start at and taper to? I have made up my mind to have my life back so I do want to try and taper soon...Thanks again for your support it really helps!! Talk later,Jennah
Blasterboy
08-03-2006, 02:27 PM
Hi Jennah!!! I remember you and am glad to hear that your still looking for recovery. It takes time for some of us and if I remember correctly last time you where C/T all guns blazings, lol...... But my memory isn't that great so excuse me if I'm wrong.
I don't know much about Sub other that what I read on here, but I wish you well and I think the honesty of telling your hubby is also a good part of the process that you'll need to go through.
Love Blasterboy :-)
karbe95
08-04-2006, 01:31 PM
lovey1-
My husband is currently in rehab and they have him on (I think) 2mg 3 times a day of sub. I too, am reading these mesages abords, gathering strength reading about personal experiences, but also starting to wonder about this 'new' drug that seems to be the miracle cure. My husband also has chronic back pain, which started him on the oxy, dilaudid, morphine and all other opiate pill forms. Somehow he crossed over into injecting these pills, and then to heroin. Now I'm not saying that everyone will take this path, but what I am saying is if they treat him with sub, then what happens later? How long is it supposed to be for? Is the medical community in agreement that this is not a cure all and shouldn't be taken for long periods of time? And is the subutex the one with the opiate blocker in it? Or is that the other one? And what are the pros and cons to either? :confused: Thanks for any information you can share....
karbe95
Jennah
08-05-2006, 12:17 PM
Hey Guys!! You were right Blasterboy I did try ct and then tried tapering with minimal success so I am very happy to say that because of the suboxone I am 18 days and no pills!! I am starting to taper the suboxone because I want to.I have dropped 4mg. per day with no problems for 6 days now.That is probably because I was started on a pretty lge. dose to begin with.I am no expert Karbe95 but I know that subutex is the one that does not contain naloxone.Here where I live it can not be prescribed outpatient because of the possibility of iv use.The only thing with the suboxone is trying to be careful not to swallow while it is disolving under your tongue or you could get sick:eek: !! Your husband is taking less than me though I was started on 20mg. per day.So I think we all seem to respond to suboxone alittle differently.I have also started in counseling which turns out to be not so bad!! I am alittle scared about being normal lol !! It will be the 1st time in almost 4yrs.that I won't be walking around high all the time.If anyone has any thoughts on like what do we do now?? That would be helpful.For me I know I don't want to live as a slave to my addiction but learning how to just be..is a new concept I need to explore. Hang in there Karbe95 your husband needs you..and Blasterboy stay in touch...it is always helpful to hear from you.Have a great weekend everyone.Later,Jennah