Hi,

I was just wondering if any of my old buddies were still here. I reread some of my threads from when I quit in jan/feb and phil had erased all of his comments. They were so inspirational, that was a bit of a bummer. Guess he gave up on me when I gave up on myself. Anyway, if y'all are around, I'm on day 3 clean and I'm not going to slip up this time. This time is for keeps. Luv ya!

Debbie

Debbie;

Hi Debbie, I would never give up on you! Remember what I would always say, if you stop trying then you will never have a chance to be drug free. As long as we try then we always have a chance to succeed, right?????

Glad to hear you're on your way again, day 3 is better then day 2 and day 4 will be better then day 3 so its only going to get so much better, soon you will see and soon you will enjoy all the fruits of your labors.

Thanks for saying hi and let me know if I can help in any way.

phil

Hi Phil!

I was hoping you were still here! I actually saw where you posted on someone else's post recently, so that's really great that you are still giving people inspiration. Yep, day 4 today. Much better than day 3. I am not going back this time Phil. I've told my friends to not even ever let me know if they have pain pills b/c I'm not interested, and i'm going to tell my doc that I"m addicted too, so I can cut that supply off. I went to a vitamin store and loaded up. Will try to exercise too. I wish I felt 100%, but that's asking a lot I guess. Anyway, thanks so much for your support!

Debbie

Debbie;

Yes day 4 is probably not a fun day physically feeling wise, but mentally it’s good because you’re on the down hill now and everyday will be better and better. Remember 80/20 rule, 80% of getting through withdrawal happens in the first 20% of the time and the last 20% of withdrawal and getting back physically and mentally takes the remaining 80% of the time. Remember also, slow and steady wins the race!

It takes time to get addicted and it will take time to get through the withdrawal. Don’t get discouraged! Even though it may seem like you’re not making any progress, you actually are making progress, it’s just that the change is small and sometimes hard to notice. I know when I got by the first 30-45 days I felt really great physically (actually it was about 3 weeks before I felt GOOD) but it was almost 10 months before I felt mentally I was back at pre addicted mentality. Hope that makes sense?

I also like the fact that you will tell your doctors about the addiction. It’s good we cut off our sources or temptations. I found that if I had access or temptation it was much easier to relapse, which I did the first few go arounds ha. Kind of like if you have any pills around you, you typically can bank on not having the will power to not take them, that’s why I always say flush them to avoid temptation.

Hang in there, it’s about to be really, really good for you!

phil

Thanks Phil! I planned this detox. Took today and tomorrow off, as yesterday was already a holiday. I took the last of my stash Friday night, even every hidden pill. I knew I'd be out and that Saturday was d-day. I exercised earlier. Just 20 min but still it's something. I've been cleaning. Now I need to go get my daughter from school. I guess I'm feeling better than I expected. I think it might be easier than the last time I quit b/c I wasn't up to the 25 a day. I was probably getting back to 15 a day. It's amazing how fast tolerance builds. I like your 80/20 rule. Thanks for your inspiration. I can't wait to be posting that it's been a month, and a year. I want to be where you are. I'm on my way. :-)

Deb

So Deb

My fellow Texan..............HA

I've been off and on but was wondering how you are these days? I seem to think you are totally clear from the pills? And life is good for you?

An update would be wonderful, an especially nice holiday treat

phil

I agree toughtime, you have been absent for a LONG time. even if your still using you should come and say HELLO to us, NO ONE will judge you. It doesn't matter if you are so come and say Hi.

Hopefully you got on the Sub and are doing great if not I still feel it is the best option for you? what have you been up to? I hope all is well and you and your little girl are having a great holiday season.

SS

Hey Toughtime Deb. I just read a post you posted a few days ago that you are clean . I am so proud of you girl. I new you could do it. and you sound great and happy again... your helping others and making them feel good. I am so glad to hear your doing so well.

Hang in there girl..... I wish I had your strength and determination myself.:blob_fire

SS

Oh Debbie, where are you.................Come out come out where ever you are....................

Just w wee bit small update to make our holiday season special.............

phil

Hi Phil
Hope you are well. I know these folks here are in good hands with you here.

Number1

Now theres a blast from the past. So nice to hear from you. Hope all is well and you have a great holiday (Christmas)

phil

Deb, I am a new member to this board. Your story appealed to my becuase you recovery sounds like mine. I stated taking tnyl pm for sleep, then for fun. Then I would mix in snuff and ciggs, then ambien, finally, after I'd had enough, I quit just like that.............very false statement of course. Took me years, but I allways to myself that as long as you continie to try and quit, eventually you'll win. Just never quit on yourself. I am excited about this chat room, one that actually productive. I did not know they existed during my recovery.

Will

Hey guys!~
You all are so sweet! I just checked my hotmail, which I hardly ever check anymore, and saw your replies to my posts. You are all so sweet!!!

Well, I haven't been doing so good. I have quit several times over the past several weeks/months but I can't stay quit. The last time, last week actually I had been sober for 4 days and I had a bad sinus infection/upper respiratory infection. I went to see my doc who is also the doc who prescribes the pain pills. I fessed up that I have a problem with the pills! I told him I wasn't still taking them, partly b/c I had blown thru the 120 pills in 2 weeks, and my refill wasn't due for weeks. I told him I'd been off them for days and I always run out before my refill, and always feel crappy for a few days when I'm out. He said that is probably withdrawals (duh!) that I'm experiencing. I told him I think I have a problem with them and I'm worried that I'm dependent on them. I also told him I think that they've messed up my body/brain chemistry b/c I've been on them for so long and when I'm off I'm so depressed and lethargic.

Well guys, he wrote me a script for 180 pills with refills! OMG. I tried so hard not to get them filled. But I did. And yes I'm taking them. But I've also started on a round of antidepressants. I'm going to wait a few weeks, let these build up in my system, and after Christmas I'm quitting smoking and pain pills- for good.

So I'm ashamed to say that I'm not clean right now. I've had a lot of issues lately, a lot of things going on in my life, death of a loved one, etc. etc. I know those are just excuses, but I couldn't get past the temptation of having the script in my hand. I was so mad at myself undoing the work I'd done- I was just over the withdrawals!

But I did. I've been sick off and on for the past 2 weeks and I can't afford to be sick again until after the holidays. I'm taking the first week in January off of work and I am going to get clean- and stay clean. I promise!!!

How is everyone else doing? Thanks for the kind words and for caring!

Debbie

you seem to know alot about addiction and i have a few questions. I have been on tramidol for over six years about 800mg a day im trying to wing off this med, but really not sure how to do it. I have been taking it for lower back pain. do u have any suggestions that might help me ? please let me know.

randy

Hey Randy,

Welcome to the board. I don't know a lot about tramadol, but I'm sure that many others on the board will. One word of advice would be to start your own chain. Make a new post that will be your thread and you'll get a better response than posting on mine.

I know that realizing you have a problem and wanting to quit is the first step, and a very good one. You could taper down, taking less each day until you're off, or go cold turkey. There are different options, just depending on how bad your habit is and what you can handle.

Debbie