cram can only tell you what i have done,make sure he goes to n/a as often as possible,also buy bulk tests from the net and test him a couple of times a
week,i bought 50 tests,not cheap but worth it they know that test is coming
also if you can go into the bathroom with him from the beginning,easy for me we are 2 females,i say this because if they want to use they become so wily and even use someone elses urine and its easier to do it from the start rather than try to do it weeks later,make it a condition of coming home,if this is not possible,check the bathroom for little bottles of pee and make him go in only his shorts and frisk him,again if you do it at the start he knows he is not going to hoodwink you.Rather demeaning but neccesary certainly in our case.
We have spent 1,000s of dollars in the 18wks katy has been clean,all new clothes,hairdos, cosmetics all to make her look and feel good,paid for nights out,she has 1 friend who is not a user and we would only pay for her to go out with this friend.she now has a lovely boyfriend who used to be her dealer one time,hes been clean 18months and comes from a lovely family,we even paid for them to go on holiday,sticks in my throat sometimes to be working so had and not see the fruits of my labour but i too could not go back there and i am doing this for me.n/a is the most important thing.fingers crossed,love sadmum

hi,flintrock,silly boy but lets hope she did persuade him not to come,another nail in her coffin,but when he does ring and apologise just say,not to worry son we had a lovely evening although it would have been better if you were there,much better than kicking off about how unreliable,selfish,doesnt care about anyone but himself etc. because then he can justify letting you down because you are just so horrible to him.Maybe if our kids got together they would name us The Three Witches of Healthboards.sadmum

:) LOL on the three witches remark. I used to get from my son how he is going to be a better parent than me, more trusting, more friend than parent. Gee I hope I live long enough to see him navigate ages 15 - 22.

Sadmum, you really point out something important. Not only does good friends make a difference but a good solid relationship.

We have a drug test already here. I will definately keep an eye on him.

I don't know how much rope (trust) to give him. I am so thankful I have you all as a support system.

No trust,but justify it by saying i am just a caring concerned mum and i am doing this to help me not because i dont trust you,we have to become as devious as they once were,"What goes around comes around",wil be here for you in the next few weeks,they are fraught with anxiety,sad mum

Amen to that. I don't know what I'd do without you guys. You make me laugh. you make me cry....but in the end...aI always feel better!! As strange as that sounds. Haven't heard from son yet. Hope he's OK. I am sure he is, when he's not he calls. (wanting something) I know in my heart this relationship is only temporary. Maybe to prepare him for life...who knows. He keeps reminding me that he's "21." Not sure what that means....wish he acted like he was at least 15........

My almost 16 yr old just got his first job today. Working weekends at a new steak and oyster restaurant. he's so excited.....Good luck everyone...I willl keep you posted on my up and and down life........:wave:

Well girls our threads are just al ittle more upbeat these days,seems like we are doing eachother a power of good,im sure one day we will all come out of this smelling of roses and bragging about what our kids have achieved,if not it wont be for the wont of trying,Funny in court today we had a little chinese man who was up for shoplifting and when we asked him to confirm where he lived he said"No ****** street",well we are quite used to the diehards who are well versed in court proceedure and become insolent,as we were about to charge him with contempt of court his solicitor spoke up and said"He lived in Norfolk street"sadmum

well girls, got a call around 7:15 pm...it was son...said he was in jail for shoplifting. Of course said he wasn't shoplifting. He needed $60 to get out. I went down there after raking him over the coals. Seems he and SHE were at teh Dollar General store and he saw this umbrella ($50) he liked rather well. When the truth came out, he was "about" to steal it....employee called the police and he started running. (guilty people run). Police caught him, took him to jail. He's on probation until january anyway. She was also arrested as well as her car impounded. (LOL) she got herself out and was calling her mom from outside when I got there. She was not getting him out...her loving fiance remember...I heard her telling her mother that he steals every time he goes in a store. None of this was her fault. He came out and began mouthing to me..the officer came out and told him she could lock him back up if he didn't change his attitude. He shut up. As were about to leave, I was giving him the riot act, as any mother would do as she leaves the jail with her "21" year old son, and he said a few foul words to me and I ordered him to my car. Once in the car I told him how the cow eats cabbage. He apologized. I asked him if he was taking xanax again, he said no, as usual. but his demeanor and attitude told me he was. I took him back to hi place (he's lived since Monday) and he didn't even have a key and I drove off. My husband was on his way to work as I arrived home. We have decided that we are finished with him. Until he gets help, whether it's drugs or maybe he just needs some psychological help, we will not communicate with him. I have not shed a tear...I'm all out of those...but I am tired of his lifestyle infringing on mine. I don't live this way and I won't be subjected to it any longer. I don't see him changing. He was cursing her like she was a dog, which she is, and she began to curse me, and he stepped up to my defense....that's when we left....I am tired....and I guess this will be his lifestyle from now on...he doesn't seem to want anything different. I told him he could not have been raised by me. I just could not have raised a son who steals or does drugs...the last time he was arrested he was on xanax and had $120 in his pocket and stole a music CD....now go figure....I'll keep you posted........sorry to have to change the mode of our postings...we were all upbeat:confused: ...

Just a reminder that love is blind and definatly stupid sometimes. So just hope he will wake up one day with some sight and he'll stop being stupid!!!! Or at least open his eyes and sees hes with stupid. YOu should by him one of those t-shirts that says I'm with stupid with the arrow that would point to her if she walked next to him. He may not like but boy would we all get a chuckle out of it. My mom I'm pretty hated a few of the guys I brought home to meet her, she was very wise though. Never said a bad thing about him in front of me. Her thing was I didnt have to tell you what I thought cause I knew eventually you will know how I thought cause you would be thinking the same things I was. If she saw them she was pleasant but in a cold short pleasant so that wouldnt set me off that she was being mean to the man I "loved". Which I would have to defend him. She knew I would get my sight back and stop being with stupid I just had to find out for myself what she already knew HE WAS A LOOSER!!!!! Us kids dont have the parent intuition so we are still at the learning stage of the game. Once we have kids of our own and are going through you can sit back and get a little chuckle of the HELL we are going through, I hope he opens eyes soon though for his sake soon. he will start seeing soon. we all did. Kim

Well, girls here's an update. You remember son was arrested last night at 7:15 for shoplifting an umbrella. (and it wasn't even raining) Well not, 24 hours later, he calls me and says he's back in jail for possession of marijuana. I said well, don't call me and I hung up! He called back and wanted to know if his dad was home I said no he is not! And he hung up. So, I know he's doing the xanax now. He's never in trouble unless he's using. Lat night I went and paid $60 to get him out. And after I got home I wished I hadn't. I'm not even worried though. I really think he is going to have to realize his time of using me and his dad is up. We've always been there no matter what. Well, he's always saying, "I'm 21." Well, yes he is. And I guess the girlfriend...fiance...won't get him out....oh how love hurts.....give me some wisdom ladies....I need it tonight!!!!!!!!!!:confused:

Well of course his girlfriend wont get him out she would have to spend her drug money then she would be without pills. Maybe this is his wake up call. Sounds like he really needs it. He is 21 he is a big boy you did your job your raised him to have values and conviction and to know right from wrong, as an adult we now have to pay for our poor choices we are the ones that made them and we were raised to know what were doing is wrong. Now he made his bed he has to lie in it and maybe he will get a clear thought and really want to change. All I have to say is if he calls again and tells you hes done its too late after all he is 21 he is an adult. So stay strong as hard as it is I think he really needs this to A) Scare the chit out of him B) to wake him up and make him open his eyes. I know its hard you love him he is your child, but enough is enough. Good luck and STAY STRONG! Kim

Been there ,got the t-shirt,time for tough love flintrock and this is going to be the hardest thing you ever did,no more bailing out,just say when you are ready to quit let me know and i will be there,took 6 x with daughter so dont expect it to happen the first time,but during the 6 times i never enabled her,no money,food etc.only love and she got to the point she would visit just to see us but would never ask for money and when the time came i just said,had enough now katy and she said yes,but i knew by her tired worn out face she had,more info when you get to that point but god am i feeling for you love and sympath,y and yes our threads are taking on a different theme,but thats what buddies are for,love sadmum

Sadmum, I feel a little guilty because I don't care. I guess I have been through so much I just expect it. I know I've done all I can for him and it hasn't worked. He has to sit and look at his life and decide if this is what he wants. The jails are full here...used to work for the sheriff for 15 years so I am very aware of jail procedures..if the jail wasn't full they would transfer him there and he would stay there until court time if no one bailed him out. But he is charged with this small charge and I really hate that he will prob be out in the morning because they are so full and are not holding non violent people. I could call the sheriff and tell him to find a bed for him and keep him there. but I choose to not be involved at all. If he calls again I will not answer. I am so disgusted with him right now..and so is hubby. We are not going to enable him any more. Keep sending the advice....girls...I need it. The drugs have to go!!!!! We don't associate with drugs addicts.............:wave:

Flintrock, I was where you are right now in the begining of this summer. So fed up I just didn't care. I was overloaded mentally and couldn't process my own life because of what he was putting me through...or interestingly enough what I was allowing him to put me through.

Here is a little tough love. Right now you are overwhelmed. If he steers clear of you for awhile, you will be able to re-charge, which means you will be vulnerable to him again. So be aware. You still haven't broken the cycle.

We cause part of the problem. We enable them. We say no more and then we go back on our word (I am so guilty of this behavior). What kind of message did we send? Think of it this way, forget your son is 21, if he were 10 and stole from a store, wouldn't there be consequences? Seems we expect less of them as they get older and that isn't right. Again our fault, because they are insisting they are "21" and for some stupid reason we are accepting that on their terms (they can do what they want, they are a "man" but when they screw up they want to be treated like they are 10 by us).

Then there is manipulation by using guilt (my son had that mastered). He didn't have to do much to get you to come bail him out, two nights in a row. We love our children but we don't have to like them.

Then there is the girlfriend who said no, can guarantee he will forgive her for that but if you said no to your son it would have taken him a long time to forgive you. What's up with that?

I am not throwing stones, because I live in a glass house. I have no idea what mistakes I will make over the next few months with my son that just arrived this morning. I am in new territory right now. All I know is I have to be careful not to undue all the good work my ex did with him over the summer, which means I have to re-learn my behavior. I know if I give my son an inch, he will take a foot because he is now back in his old territory and no matter how you slice it I am still the same person.

Big Hug.

Cram, you are sooo right. We haven't heard from him again. He prob got out sicne jail is full. But I am sure we will hear from him soon. He always comes back to the prople who truly love him. Love has nothing to do with this though. My husband is also as fed up as I am. So, together I know we'll be strong. Son is so full of BS when he's on xanax...and he has a rough road ahead of him if he's using again, and would bet my house on it. He will have to take care of this mess he's gotten himself into yet again...My pocketbook is closed. Haven't told 16 yr old of the weekend mess, he worries so much about his brother...but seems in the past we have always told him everything and he has learned from it. So, we may have a family meeting with him once we see where and what's going on. Thanks you guys for all your support and advice....keep it coming............I feel as though I've know you for a long time.........some day we need to have a reunion when we get our kids all straightened out...or should I say when they straighten out themselves.......hugs to you!!!!!:)

Cram I think hit it right on the nose. Children know how to manipulater our parents we are taught that at a young age although we grow up we still know what to do. He needs to relearn things which is you dont get a reward for bad behavior, eventually maybe he will catch on. I watch this with my sister when her kids were little they would ask for a cookie she would say no and they would throw a fit until she gave it to them. Rewarding bad behavior. Now they are 11-14yrs old and never heard the word no and man she is going through hell. Even now she will just give in, her one daughter will hit and she will stick up for her. Once again rewarding bad behavior. This is so difficult I'm not a parent but I do remember putting my mom through hell and she kicked me right out! She gave 5 min to get my stuff and get out, and she didnt bend on this one. All I can say is I learned a HUGE lesson that day. DONT MESS WITH MAMA! Just stay strong and dont bend! Cram good luck with your son hopefully he has learned his lesson too. Talk to you all later. STAY STRONG. Kim

Got a call from son this morning. Debated on whether to answer or not...but did...said the girlfriend was in jail in another county cause when they got stopped she had a warrant out of that county, for something she had already paid and they didn't have it in the computer...yeah right....said he didn't have anyone else and would I come get him. I said no, I will not. He said he had to sleep on cold floor and he had chigger or some kind of bites all over him and he was hurting and he hda to go to work tomorrow. I said, well I am sorry, but you have to take care of this yourself. I will not spend time or money getting you out of jail every again. He said, fine...F U bit(*&^&*...so that was a nice ending to a conversation with my son. If he can't have it his way...then no way....that just enabled me to see what he truly is.........so no sleep lost over this one.........

Good job standing your ground on this one. I remember the nice as pie, the piling on the guilt hoping my mom would cave and when she wouldnt boy would the real me come out and would just prove her right everytime. Well they do have medical personel in prison so he can get treated there if it is that bad. I think he was trying to make is sound worse than it was so you would be like I cant let my baby go through this. Well maybe when he gets out this will stay in his memory and he will want to straighten his life out and see the path he is on isnt working for him. He wasnt thinking or work while he was out doing what he was doing. Once again consequences for his actions. Keep it up your doing great he wont have you to manipulate and use anymore and he will realize that he needs you for alot more than just getting him out of jail. He will need you to be his support and your help when he truly wants to help himself. Stay strong. I know I'm not a parent so I cant say I feel your pain but I hope things turn around. Remember the only perfect parent out there is one who doesnt have kids. lol. So I commend you on your strength and courage and I can imagine the hell it is to not help your child but it also sounds like your at the end of your rope and you are not going to let this ruin your life let alone another day of YOUR life. Stay strong you really need to at this point. With the computers and the technology we have today I cant imagine her paid fine just got lost in the system. If she did pay she should have proof and a reciept from court like I always get if I pay a ticket. Man I just cant believe he believes her, oh well what can you do about it we know she is a lying looser now he just has to figure it out. Misery loves company. Good luck stay strong and dont let him knock you down. You have been my rock and great help to me so I'm here for you not with great advice but I am here. Good luck Kim

Your encouragement is appreciated Kim!!! thank you so much......I'll keep you posted!!!!!

Flintrock, sooner or later you had to say enough, no matter how difficult it was. By him going off like that it showed what kind of respect he held in his heart for you before he made the call.

I cannot tell you how many awful things my son said to me in the past, it's to hurt us.

I think when they say you are the only one that can help me, I have no one else it translates to - no one else will put up with my bs or or I don't want anyone else to know how I screwed up again. They care what their peers think of them because their peers don't have unconditional love for them and they would never tell their friends to f-off because that would be the end of that friendship. I am also sure his friends can't figure out what he sees in this girl either. At 21, his friends probably view her as baggage.

You will hear from him again and you will listen to him with your ears not your heart and make the right decision.

My son said to me tonight he learned that he has to take care of number one but not the way he was doing it, only thinking of himself. He has learned that he has to be considerate to others while taking care of himself.

Then after wowing me with his maturity, we just discovered he left the bilco doors in the basement wide open and who knows how many mosquitos are lurking in the house. Errrrr, baby steps.

cram you give the best advice unfortunalty through living it but eventually it turn around you and sadmum are proof that it can happen. You guys are great. Kim

Yes Cram, his disrespect does hurt. But he has to live with that, not me. One day when this is all over, he will have to answer for the things he says to me. He never says things like that to his dad. Dad would prob knock his lights out. And he knows I just get hurt. He never acts disrespectful when dad is around. My husband travels for the railroad and is gone alot. So, he knows when to act up. I am so proud of your son. He has really learned something through all this. And that is what life is...a learning process.......we screw up..we learn from it and move on and try not to make the same mistake again. so of us do and some don't....I hope your son continues with his poritive attiude and I pray he learns how to close the doors....if that were the only thing we had to worry about...wouldn't live be easy? good luck to both of you and thanks again!!!!:)

flintrock please dont take this the wrong way not intended to be rude. ... With that being said I am an addict and I once believe in one of my post you sent a reply to my post that said "It isnt getting clean its staying clean that is the hard part". Unfortunatly I had to relapse a couple of time to realize I had a problem. A problem that only I could fix no matter how much it made the people miserable around me. I didnt care how they felt or how they cared I cared about myself and my selfish addiction. I dont blame you for not liking his gf if she is the one who introduced him to drugs. On the other hand we all have the choice to say no or thats stupid I dont want to do that. Unfortunatly I picked up the pills and put them in my mouth, do I hate my Dr for prescribing them to me no I dont. I'm the one who starting taking them I'm the one who started abusing them I'm the one who made them my world no one else but me. I have dated crack addicts, heroin addicts and never once did I say give me some, I didnt want to become like them. Never once did I say hand me that pipe or needle or straw. He made his choices and unfortunatly he said yes let me try that. Although it makes it alot easier when your with someone that uses cause they get in the same panic when w/d sets in. I dont know if he loves her or loves her for the addiction he shares with her. I can almost bet if and when he gets clean she will not be in the picture. Once your clean you have to change your whole life around the people you hang out with (even giving up your closest friends), where you go what you do and who you do it with. At 21 its a pretty big step. Now that I'm 31 I dont even talk to but a few people I hung out with then, because I changed my lifestyle, who and what I did everything. I had to walk away from the people and things that made me who I am today. Scared as hell. So he will find his way I just hope he does and I hope for all the parents on this board that their kids will find their way back home and not on a worse path. I hope this is some good advice since I WAS the addict and not the mom. I know he will see the light and want more out of life he just has to fall down and pick himself up all on HIS OWN that is the only way he will want help and get help and stay clean on his own terms, not because someone told him to. He will trust me he will. I just know and hope it. Good luck and stay strong. Kim

Oh I don't blame the girlfriend for his drug use....she's just a horrible person. She is a liar, a thief, a manipulator, a user and she is so beneath him. She is a very unstable person and that's why I hate her. He chose to do what he did, to steal and to smoke weed and do xanax...she didnt make him. But if she loved him as she says she does, she would not wait for him to get clean, find a job and be doing great....and then call him after being away from him thru the tough times and offer him anything he wanted if he would just see her. That's not love....that's what I hate about her....he's responsible for his own actions...and that's what this weekend is about. He can no longer call me and his dad for help. He has to stand on his own two feet....

You absolutly right! Keep us posted hopefully things will turn around. Kim

Oh I don't blame the girlfriend for his drug use....she's just a horrible person. She is a liar, a thief, a manipulator, a user and she is so beneath him. She is a very unstable person and that's why I hate her. He chose to do what he did, to steal and to smoke weed and do xanax...she didnt make him. But if she loved him as she says she does, she would not wait for him to get clean, find a job and be doing great....and then call him after being away from him thru the tough times and offer him anything he wanted if he would just see her. That's not love....that's what I hate about her....he's responsible for his own actions...and that's what this weekend is about. He can no longer call me and his dad for help. He has to stand on his own two feet....
Flint,
I just read this thread and others about your situation with your son. I will try to be diplomatic but some things I just have to say.
You and others that have posted keep remarking on what a loser his girlfriend is. You all laugh about buying a tee shirt "I'm with stupid". You call her a liar, a thief, a manipulater a user and say she is so beneath him. Please tell me how different your son is? Why is she so beneath him? He is a liar, a thief and a manipulater too. I am an alcoholic that happens to have a very few days clean today but will admit that I am a liar, a thief a manipulater and a Former user.
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe you posted (in another thread) that this girls family has disowned her/restaining order. If thats true, she cant even call home if she wanted to. Your son on the other hand, has you at least thinking and worrying and sometimes helping him. If I am getting a post mixed up and she does have family to call and they truly care, imagine the grief they have. You dont have to imagine it do you?
I dont know.... my heart goes out to this girl for some reason. I guess one of the reasons is that I am an alcoholic and know true dispair, and I am a mother. At the end of the day, this girl has a mother too, and no matter what, most mothers never stop worrying. This girl is as much of a human being as your son. She is hurting too. Has to be otherwise she wouldnt be self medicating. You said that if this girl really loved your son.......I think your forgetting she doesnt love herself, how can she love him. Keeping in mind also that they are BOTH messed up. She cant fix him and he cant fix her.
Listen, I know you want the best for your son. We all want our children to be safe and think we should be able to fix anything for them - to a point. I pray everynight for all of us on these boards but I am going to especially pray for this girl. Maybe you and the others that have chosen to say very hurtful and mean things about her should too. She is no different that your son. She is an adict and so is your son. She has every chance of recovery that your son has. Only by the grace of God.
I'm really sorry if I have offended you or others that posted on this thread but I had to say what I feel.

I hope that your son and this girl find thier way. As I said, I will continue to pray for BOTH of them.

Marilyn

There's always more to the story. I felt as you do at one time and gave her a chance. She abused that and took advantage of me. she took advantage of my home and my family. I tried to help her because I too felt sorry for her and wanted to give her a chance. She stepped all over that chance. So, no more. Just as my son, no more. I will not be used any longer. People choose their path. If she would straighten up, her family would help her. Her mom pays all her bills, gets her out of jail and believes all her lies. She has manipulated her mother to no end. She is a very sad person, but not mine to raise. I believe in giving people a second chance. She's had hers. And so has he. He will have to change his life before I can have anything to do with him. It breaks my heart, but I have to demand respect in order to survive.

Just checked with the jail and they let the inmates out this morning. Guess he didn't feel the need to call and let us know. the big jail, where they all would have gone is full and are not accepting any new nonviolent people. So I guess that's why they let them all go....

Hey Flint,
Boy do I know that there is two sides to the story. I was making the observation that an adict is an adict. I am betting your son has done the same things this girl has. Lord knows I have done HORRIBLE things to my family.
I guess your right, she isnt yours to raise. I just felt bad that here we have two young children per se, both doing the same things and some of the posts were dogging the girl and giving your son sympathy.
I can be objective because neither of these young people are mine. I have a son who will be 21 in a few months and am grateful that he is on the right path and hasnt given me a lick of trouble. I spread around enough trouble for this family as it is. I said I would pray for your son and this girl and I will. I am going to pray for you, your husband and other son because I know the heartache an adict can give. You sound like a strong woman. Keep it up.
Marilyn

Just found out they didn't just release everyone. My son was bailed out by HER mother. Now isn't that nice? We are trying to teach him a lesson and she goes and gets him. she must have so much money she doesn't know what to do with it. I bet her new hubby doesn't know it. He won't let her givethe daughter anything....if he knows about it.......son called and was very remorseful. Said he would prove to us that he is changing his life. He admitted to taking 2 bars last weekend, but swears that he is not on the xanax...I said, yes you are...you took 2 bars and you're an addict. Said he kicks himself every time he thinks about taking it...we'll see

hi flintrock,not even going into debate about who is bad and who is worse,just want to support you and tell you what worked for me,nothing you post is new ive been there,daughter was cruel and offensive to me too but eventualy with knowledge of addiction i realised this was not her talking it was the addict,we know our kids and mine is good,spent alot of time pondering on wether she was a really just a selfish uncaring person as some people are naturally,actually came to the conclusion she is a spoilt brat,my doing,but basically very nice,compassionate and kind,if you understand what i mean,anyway when she phoned in dire straights i used to tell her go away,i dont want to know,had enough,etc.all in the name of tough love,well once i read and really began to understand addiction i felt very very sorry for her,the anger left me and the heartbreak really began.i knew icould not enable her,let her ruin the lives of my family etc,but from then on when she phoned our called i would not help her but instead of being angry i would say "im really sad this is happening to you and tonight i wont sleep with worry,but because i love you so much i wont help you because im helping the addict and i so much dont want you to ruin your life by being an addict,but wwhen you want to stop being an addict come home and i will help and suport you",5 times she came home under those conditions and it didnt happen,this is normal but i would get angry about it thinking she was kidding me,sh wasnt,she meant it,but was not truly ready,6th time worked,you probably have already been there a couple of times,you will understand when it happens and it will because his upbringing will win.keep strong and let him do his worst but al the time him knowing you love him,sadmum

Thanks SadMum...We had a long talk when he called. And I told him I loved him and everyday he was in jail it was like I was there too. I explained that I could not set myself up for hurt any longer. That I hurt when he hurts. He apologized to being so mean to me and said he was just so upset. I told him I understand being upset...but I had not done anything to him. We talked about growing up and acting like a man and I would treat him like one. He agreed his life has to change. I told him if he wanted to live that life of drugs and jail, he could, because we all have that choice, but I would not live it with him. That's not my way of life. And if it meant saying goodbye to him, I would. Because it causes me too much pain to see him. He said he wanted to change and wanted his parents to be proud of him and not ashamed. I said, me too, so make us proud. He promised he would. I told him he always has a home here and when he gets ready to come home and save money to pay his fines and be an adult until he can get out on his own, and pay his bills, to call............he said he would..............I love him so much and I will not let him be taken over by the drugs..........I will keep trying.....and one day he willl see the big picture!!!!!! Thanks Sadmum for your support....I love you for it and I take it all in...you make a lot of sense and I know that's because you've been there and I know you guide me with love and caring.!!

Son is coming by tonight. He's already called once.....I bought him some groceries to get through the week till payday............see I'm not angry any more. Sadmum, your advice is wonderful and I am going to follow it!!!:)