Ok.....

Here are my symptoms...are they real...or am I nuts.

When I do more exercise...my ears seem to get full..then it goes away.
My eyes feel funny, like they are fuzzy when I turn quickly.
When I look up from one visual...my eyes feel like they are wobbling around...then seem to finally focus.
My dizzys seem better, but when my eyes are working hard...it comes back...or lightheaded.

Eyes seem worse as all other symptoms seem to be improving.
Sometimes after my eyes are challenged...all I want to do is close them...like they are tired.

My dizzys are less caused by my head movement now (still a bit), and more caused by my vision...or so it seems...

Am I nuts? Does anyone else have this?

Thanks all...happy holidays.:jester:

Hi Charlotte All I can say is if you are nuts then so am I, same symptoms as well as fuzzy head and tingling in face, twitching eye. . . .AND A STOMACH BUG THAT KEEPS COMING BACK!!
Merry Christmas everyone!
Jayne

Ok.....

Here are my symptoms...are they real...or am I nuts.

When I do more exercise...my ears seem to get full..then it goes away.
My eyes feel funny, like they are fuzzy when I turn quickly.
When I look up from one visual...my eyes feel like they are wobbling around...then seem to finally focus.
My dizzys seem better, but when my eyes are working hard...it comes back...or lightheaded.

Eyes seem worse as all other symptoms seem to be improving.
Sometimes after my eyes are challenged...all I want to do is close them...like they are tired.

My dizzys are less caused by my head movement now (still a bit), and more caused by my vision...or so it seems...

Am I nuts? Does anyone else have this?

Thanks all...happy holidays.:jester:

Hi Charlotte

Had all but the full ears---"and more caused by my vision...or so it seems"...
----its typical---with this junk!

Happy holidays!!

:cool:

HI Charlotte. I have all the same symptoms with my eyes. Especially, the wobbly feeling, like they have trouble focusing and I can actually feel them wobbling its strange. Sometimes I feel like they want to drift to one side or the other when I am trying to focus, I have to close my eyes and sort of shake it off and open my eyes again.
About the excersing, I used to excersise a lot b4 all this happened and after I would do a vigorous cardio workout I would get full ears.
We will all get through this! Happy Holidays!
Vivs

I can related to a lot of this, especially the ear fullness and light-headedness brought on by eye movement.

Reading and driving are especially bad, anything that involves working the eyes, especially left to right movement as opposed to up and down.

I guess the eye symptoms are getting me a bit unraveled...

Subs...I do the eye stablization exercises...word in front...move head up and down, then side to side..

I also do cushion rocking feet front and back...eyes closed...moving head sided to side...

Were there any other exercises you did to help your eyes?

I guess the eye symptoms are getting me a bit unraveled...

Subs...I do the eye stablization exercises...word in front...move head up and down, then side to side..

I also do cushion rocking feet front and back...eyes closed...moving head sided to side...

Were there any other exercises you did to help your eyes?

Hi Charlotte

In addition to the one I gave u---a couple days ago---pretty much did the ones at:

http://www.emedicine.com/ent/topic666.htm

When u get there chose "VRT Program" on the right side.

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my eyes seem to be most of my problem too. i feel like if my eyes would just adjust then i wouldnt feel lightheaded. bright lighting makes my eyes completely unfocused, and i have trouble going anywhere where lights shine off of the floor (supermarket, gymnasiums, etc...). i can work out but i cant run, and i think because when i run my eyes are going up and down so fast that i cant adjust.

Tiff...I am with you there...

I just went for a run...and I do it in the dark..it seems to help. When I am done though...it does make me feel more lightheaded.

Various shades of light kill me too....My PT said that this is normal for VN...

Yippy.:blob_fire

Subs...thanks for your help.

I hope you are not getting sick of my questions......

Did you feel that lightheaded, loopy/woozy feeling towards the end? I don't feel like I am going to fall...I just feel off. My eyes are like marbles rolling around in a jar...my head, no pressure...just woozy.

I am getting a bit down...being a mom of a 9 week old...I want to be 100% for her...without this site...I would be out of my head...

Subs...thanks for your help.

I hope you are not getting sick of my questions......

Did you feel that lightheaded, loopy/woozy feeling towards the end? I don't feel like I am going to fall...I just feel off. My eyes are like marbles rolling around in a jar...my head, no pressure...just woozy.

I am getting a bit down...being a mom of a 9 week old...I want to be 100% for her...without this site...I would be out of my head...

Hi Charlotte

I felt that way---until about a week before 100%---especially the vision--thing---close to the end---when I was sure it was vision----I came across an item/article called---:"Blind Sight" ---which went into how vision works---in detail---and how even without sight---the brain still uses its different parts---to find things

----as I said before---vision makes up about 40%---of the input to the brains equilibrium center---if that wasn't enough---just the way it works(or doesn't)---under normal circumstances---is enough to boggle the mind....

Made me understand---why/how---something I took---for granted---could now be---the long pole in the tent---sort of settled me down----allowing nature to take its course---which---thank goodness it did!

For most---vision----is the long pole in the tent---while this may start out as a vestibular prob---it sure ends up---much more then that....never known any injury---with so little attention payed to its occurrence---to affect---so many different systems---in so many different ways...

Ask away---no probs!

:cool:

Hello, I to have labs and doing VOR exercises and they are working! My focus is good and my depth perception is fine.

Subs, you are 100% recovered right??? Did you gradually get there? And how long did you do VOR exercises for? And how long did it take for you too recover??? Were you sensitive to barometric changes??? Can you tell me your finally stages of recovery..i would like to know if I am almost there...I feel like it. I had this for 9.5 months.

Muddygurl

Hello, I to have labs and doing VOR exercises and they are working! My focus is good and my depth perception is fine.

Subs, you are 100% recovered right??? Did you gradually get there? And how long did you do VOR exercises for? And how long did it take for you too recover??? Were you sensitive to barometric changes??? Can you tell me your finally stages of recovery..i would like to know if I am almost there..barometric.I feel like it. I had this for 9.5 months.

Muddygurl

Hi Muddygurl

Yep 100% recovered.

Yes---it took me---13/14 months---with the last four---pretty much with vision exercises---dominating.

I did VOR exercises for the entire time.

It took 13/14 months to recover---Dx was Lab, Then VN, Then VN with BPPV---I think the VN W/BPPV was the correct one.

Was not sensitive to barometric changes---at any time.

..."Can you tell me your finally stages of recovery.."....

If by that u mean---a linear trajectory---to recovery:

---for me--that was not the case---it was more---two steps forward---one back---three steps forward---one back---four steps forwarded---two back---until about the last four months---which was dominated by vision---until I was 100%---and have been there for four years....

But with this junk---no two people are alike---there are some overlapping symptoms---but each one---comes to 100% compensation---via a slightly different path---there are some---where the injury is so great---that the brain can not compensate/overcome it.....but for most--that is not the case....

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Hey Subs, recovery stories are great to hear! And you havent had it back....that is so awesome. I also had BPPV! That sucked!

Thats where I feel like I am at...all Vision now! Was your eyes super fast when you moved your head. Mine were and they are almost there! I am glad to know that they work. When you were doing them, did you ever have tingles in your legs and feet! It seems it is happening when I do my VOR exercises....I think its the brain sending signals to my feet for balance.

During your finally recovery stages, during the day, would you get a short bad period...not really bad, buy annoying? Thats whats happening to me.

My woobly eyes I can say is just about gone, my depth perception is back, and that tells me I am on the way to recovery! So what do you thinnk???

Its really great that you are still on the sight giving others support and hope. I really believe everyone will make it to 100% if they try hard enough with VRT and getting themselves moving around!!!

Another thing, since you are 100%, do you go out for drinks or did you cut that out of your lifestyle???? Sorry for so many questions, but this helps me to think positive, and Im sure others as well!!!!!

Muddygurl

Hey Subs, recovery stories are great to hear! And you havent had it back....that is so awesome. I also had BPPV! That sucked!

Thats where I feel like I am at...all Vision now! Was your eyes super fast when you moved your head. Mine were and they are almost there! I am glad to know that they work. When you were doing them, did you ever have tingles in your legs and feet! It seems it is happening when I do my VOR exercises....I think its the brain sending signals to my feet for balance.

During your finally recovery stages, during the day, would you get a short bad period...not really bad, buy annoying? Thats whats happening to me.

My woobly eyes I can say is just about gone, my depth perception is back, and that tells me I am on the way to recovery! So what do you thinnk???

Its really great that you are still on the sight giving others support and hope. I really believe everyone will make it to 100% if they try hard enough with VRT and getting themselves moving around!!!

Another thing, since you are 100%, do you go out for drinks or did you cut that out of your lifestyle???? Sorry for so many questions, but this helps me to think positive, and Im sure others as well!!!!!

Muddygurl

Hi Muddygurl

..."And you havent had it back."...

Nope.

..."Was your eyes super fast when you moved your head."...

Can't say for sure---but don't think so.

..."When you were doing them, did you ever have tingles in your legs and feet"...

No never had that.

..."During your finally recovery stages, during the day, would you get a short bad period"...

Yep---quite often===but most of the times did not last too long...

..."My woobly eyes I can say is just about gone, my depth perception is back, and that tells me I am on the way to recovery! So what do you thinnk???"...

Yep---that is the way it was for me---sounds like ur doing all the right things---and well!!

..."since you are 100%, do you go out for drinks or did you cut that out of your lifestyle???? "...

No---was not doing that at all prior to any of this junk---used to do it---but just stopped being fun---about 10 years ago---but for those that do---most seem to have a hard time doing it....but for me---just don't seem to have the urge...any more...

No prob with the questions---I understand...

:cool:

I hope these days are ending soon, like today, i felt great other then a really weird period...Sometimes they only last for 5 minutes....or up to an hour...yesterday was longer though...i think maybe it was from the exercises...My funny legs feelings come and go...I really think it is part of my healing process...I thought it might of been from barometic pressure, but I never had an issue before so why would I get it this weekend...it stopped for awhile but picked up again this weekend when I started back up doing my VOR exercises...

Also did you notice throughout your recovery that one symptom would go and then another one would come up???

Did you ever fly when you has IT???

muddygurl75

Other questions??? Do you anyone else who fully recovered from this????
Did you get you inner ear disorder from being sick, or did it just happen one day?? I got mine from an upper respr. infection. That was horrible. I never got dizzy, but I woke up one day with unbalanciness...

Other questions??? Do you anyone else who fully recovered from this????
Did you get you inner ear disorder from being sick, or did it just happen one day?? I got mine from an upper respr. infection. That was horrible. I never got dizzy, but I woke up one day with unbalanciness...

Hi Muddygurl

The one that stayed until the end was the vision one---the rest would come and go

---yep---made a number of trips(flying)....

There have been quite a few people who used to post here(no longer)that have recovered...most peope---when there better---just want to foget it---don't like to be reminded---normal!

I just woke up one morning---got up---and fell down----vertigo---u name it...do not recall being sick with anything----but---must of had some type of viral infection,i.e., the Lab then VN Dx---it was a rough time---Doc's were not much help---finely ended up at Univ of Penn---where they figured out---that vision---was holding up the compensation....

:cool:

Hi Subs,
thanks for all this info...basically this THING gradually fades away??? Have you had an problems with flourescent lighting...i was okay for awhile, but recently came back when i started up again with my VOR exercises. At work, thats all we have...and if I go out for a walk, WHALA...my symptoms are gone...So wierd, my days are so much clearer now..i can even wear sunglasses, before it was a prob...any other info you can give me would be helpful. I did have a set back in Sept when my hay fever plugged my eyes and my BPPV came back...Even during Hay fever with no plugged ears I was fine! This just made everything super worse..and I was almost there too!!

I just hope I get there soon! I live in Socal, but my family lives in Chicago and I miss them and I would like to fly home to see everyone. I even missed my grams funeral because I felt too horrible to fly! When you flew, any problems??? I am happy that my mom and dad are flying out here on x-mas eve and spending a week and half with me. I feel like now is the time I need them the most...I def. live the CA lifestyle, mt biking, cycling, yoga and so fourth...but lately Ive been feeling like I want to move back home or closer, maybe CO to be near my family. This illness really puts things in a different perspective.

Thank you so much for all this info!! I will be having alot more questions for you...

Muddygurl

Its me again Subs!

Okay, have you've been sick with colds since you've been recovered? If you have any symptoms come back???? Do you take any vitamins now to keep you healthy? I am taking multi-vitamins, garlic pills, grapeseed and grapefruit seed pills. I feel it is helping! Did you do any physical activites for VRT besides you eye exercises??? When you were ill, what were your symptoms??? Did you have incresed night blindness?? That comes and goes for me....

Also, I know a few people who had this too personally, both fully recovered...one only had it for 8 weeks and the other 6 months...My friend from CT called me yesterday, she rescued an english setter that I was fostering and she said that a woman from her work came down with vertigo and dizziness this week. Some people has it from a few days, to weeks, to months..and sometimes years....Also, she knows someone's husband had it for awhile too, but fine now...

muddygurl-let me know if i start getting annoying!

Oh, another thing subs....When you started your VOR exercises did more symptoms start coming on...this one is new for me...now only at night, i have increased night blindness and my feet feel heavy, but when I wake up, its gone.....any ideas....I know that my brain is using my eyes now for balance...to u think my brain in recalibating??? I also feel a little off balance...and i havent felt that way in a long time....

muddygurl

Hi Muddygurl

Yes---the VOR exercises---brings on a lot of symptoms--but--there designed to do that---i.e., force ur brain to compensate.

That could be---that---by the end of the day(going to sleep)---ur brain's equilibrium center---which has been running at---an unimaginable processing speed---is wore out---and not handling things---as good as when u first wake up---its kind of thought---that u commit---to memory--all the maneuvers---u learn during the day---when u sleep---that is how the compensation process---re-corrected for the---vestibular deficit---eventually.

Compensation is two steps forward one back three forward....etc...so ur going to---feel all kinds of stuff---while the compensation process takes hold---thought to be about two years---on the outside---much less for most.

No colds, etc...have no bothered me---at all---since recovery---and very little during recovery---but for most they do---its causes a decompensation---for most,

No take nothing in the way of vit's etc...did(and still do) VRT exercises/walk(day/night) just about every day---MEP when I think I may need it(never really have)---when I was recovering---first part---vertigo, unbalance, dizzy, eyes all over---second part--then vertigo got less and less, unbalance remained, eyes bounced less---third(and last)part---less unbalance, more control of eyes, last vertigo(working under car)---till it was gone---13/14 months---abt 4 1/2 years ago...

Yes it is all over the waterfront---some 4 wks, some 2 months, some 6 some 2 years, some never---it all depends on what---the virus infected/how bad--the easy one to cure(if u can say that) is BPPV---the younger u are....

Yep---it fades away---for most---fluorescent lighting---never was a problem---...."any other info you can give me would be helpful"...yes I would read everything I could---from the Information Archives" (sticky) first post on the board...plus---defently down load the videos---by the Harvard Doc---also in the "Sticky"---there are a number(by the Harvard Doc)---on what to expect and compensation....

Had no probs with flying at all----Socal---is really nice---hopefully u can dump this junk---and get on with ur life---shortly---great that ur parents---can make it out there---hopefully u be ok to make it back there---shortly...



..."muddygurl-let me know if i start getting annoying!"....

No prob.

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Hi Subs, today is a down day for me...but I know the more i move around the better I feel. I had an ENG test done back in April and my dysfunction was mild...Near your end of recovery did you get some down days too??? Someone told me that doing these exercises will hurt myinner ear more. I am confused. Yesterday was a great day for me, woke up feeling so close to 100% and now today I feel wierd. Do you think I should take a break today from doing them, or should continue on....I just havent been feeling that great since I started these exercises again....its making me mad.

I am 31 years old and how old are you??? Is there any way I can talk to you over the phone??????????????????

Muddygurl

Hi Muddygurl

The exercises will not hurt ur ear---that's kind of dumb---to say that---absolutely---many down days---but they get few and fewer---as u progress---that is one of the ways---u know---how it is going---would not hurt--not to push it---just try to do something---walk, etc...something for the brain to work on---tonight---while ur asleep---the ENG test---is not---a very good indicator---it only tests---the posterior canals---in fact---most of the tests are indirect tests---for this junk---since there is no way---they can get in to the inner ear---short of an autopsy---what a piece of work---huh!

No---posting/rules//guidelines do not allow any direct one on one contact---u get "banned"----know its hard---but for this board---that's the rules....

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I totally understand.....The month of Nov thats when I started seeing improvement....I had many almost symptom free days...Dec had been okay....thats when I saw that my depth perception came back and my wobblies are going away...I feel alittle better since Ive been walking around at work...it helps....so it took another 4 month to see improvment when you did you VOR exercises??? I have that retinal slip problem, where I need to increase my VOR gain....It was getting great, but today it seems to suck!!!

When you were at 10 months, how were you feeling...did you still have up and down days???

muddygurl

I know I have made alot of improvement because just having my depth perception back is huge..and how my wobblies almost gone...what do you think??? I guess seeing improvement is a good thing...if there wasnt any, i should be worried...right?

Sorry Subs, another thing....when you say that you were unbalanced, do you mean marshmellow feet, mine were gone, until I started my exercising again..At what month did you start seeing improvement??? At any point during recovery, did you feel that 100% recovery was impossible??? I know everybody is different, but hearing from you really helps me to get more determined...How were you when you go this THING??????????????

Hi Muddygurl

I think about 12th month---until that time---had a really bad time---with my vision---I never thought that 100% was achievable---in less then two years at the earliest---with three years prob--more the norm.

When I got it(this thing)----I was just---moving along---no health probs---at all---then---wham!

You bet seeing improvement---is a good thing---like most---u do improve---just takes so darn long(for me)---and---those slip back(decompensation)--it was a heck of an experience...

When I was at 10 months---I was sure---I would never make it---but the VOR exercises started to kick in around the 12th month---big time---and---from that point on--it just got better and better....

Have u looked at the compensation video from the "sticky"??

:cool:

Hi Subs! Maybe things are going to start happenig for me soon, since my vison is really kicking in! In month 12, did you still have a few bad days???? I havent seen the video yet, I will do that when I get home from work. I also worked the whole ENTIRE time I have had this...at first it wasnt eays with teh brain fog, but it uplifted and everything started inproving for there...things are still, but SLOWLY!!! What was wrong with your vision????

You're great at responding, I appreciate it so so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some of this stuff i might have already asked you. Did the VOR exercises give you symptoms at first?? Did you have any support from your family??? When there are bad days, is the brain recalibrating itself, do you think??? I wasnt really having many bad days until I started the VOR exercises again hard core....Did you ever get a period for 2 weeks where you didnt feel good....

I can understand the vision aspect. I have trouble when I try to switch from focusing on something up close then far away...

Seems like I do better outdoors...indoors so many objects to look at. Eyes seem tired...tired of working so hard.

I can understand the vision aspect. I have trouble when I try to switch from focusing on something up close then far away...

Seems like I do better outdoors...indoors so many objects to look at. Eyes seem tired...tired of working so hard.

Hi Charoltte67,

I hope all these posts are helping you as much as me...Before my eyes couldntrack very well...and I just came form a walk and I watched the cars go by and it seems that I have made progress in that area...With my job, I am constantly moving around because I work on a printing press...when I forst got labs, it was quite difficult, but not its breeze!!! I take 5-10 minute walk every hour at work...Everybody wants me to recover and get back to my crazy...I used to take the train to work and cycle home...I was in the middle of training for a cycling race before all this has happen. And this summer my sister and I were going to start racing our mt bikes here in socal...but, couldnt do it!! But I have been feeling good since this week...but feel alot better now...the tingles in my legs arent bad...i have gotton them before when i had marshmellow feet. I think it is a part of my brain seeding sigals down to my legs and feet to help cordinate balance with my eyes......Hope you are feeling better and that the exercises are working for you.............

muddygurl

Subs, how long did you do VOR exercises for???

Muddy...this thread is very helpful.

Subs...it was interesting to hear that you thought you would never make a full visual recovery. I feel that way sometimes. Funny, I forget all the symptoms that have gone...and just remain frustrated with the ones that stay.

Muddy, I had terrible trouble with Flur. lights in stores. I use to have to limit my time in stores...now, although it makes me feel a bit "off"...I can shop and have much less problems.

My visuals are my main problem..and I am focusing on gaze stablizing exercises now. They can make me feel icky at times....but that too is getting better.

Subs...your stages mimick mine...the only additions I have had are fullness in my ears minimally on and off, and problems with lighting. Other than that..I felt fine...and then SLAM ...vertigo.

I can't tell you how much your feedback means.

In addition, it is nice to see Alicia Molik returning to great prof. tennis after over a year with vestibular neuritis...

It does show we can all heal.

Subs, how long did you do VOR exercises for???

Hi Muddygurl

Did them the whole time(14 Months)---still do them---if I think---something---I did---could lead to a decompensation---but that has not happened...

:cool:

Hi Charlotte

Yep were pretty close---although---no to people are alike---there are similarities---all ways nice to hear--of someone---who makes it--back from VN...

:cool:

Hey guys!

Just went to the grocery store, wasnt too bad...i think some of it was in my head...just a little heavy feet, thats it...i feel good right now...noticed my wobbly eyes more, but not to bad....Lets keep up our VOR exercises and we'll be where SUBS is soon!!!!

Muddygurl

Tomorrow I am going to Target to buy wrapping paper...its not really the flourescent lights thats freak me it fear and anxiety. Today i took at break from my exercises, but tomorrow Ill get back right in too them...I have seen tremendous about of improvement since I started them mid-end of OCT...the day i really saw things change was on Halloween, how everytime I moved my head, my eyes started to slow down. In the last two months I have seen alot of great changes...and when you see great improvement you know your brain/CNS is doing its thing. I always hate when I have a bad period during the day, because I usually come down from feeling 95%...I am usually at that, but sometime during the day I shift....but thats okay, because I always see inprovement!!

Muddygurl

Subs...

Another question for you if I might...

My woozyness is like this...I look down at my baby while I give her a bottle (very close up)..then I look up to answer a question from a family member...I feel woozy. I close my eyes...I have no prob. sleeping....
as soon as I wake up...woozy.

It feels more like woozy, than dizzy. I know it is a form of dizzy...but it makes me nuts.

Did you feel like this? Do you ever get a woozy/off balance feeling from any turns, anything...anymore? Thanks so much subs.

Subs...

Another question for you if I might...

My woozyness is like this...I look down at my baby while I give her a bottle (very close up)..then I look up to answer a question from a family member...I feel woozy. I close my eyes...I have no prob. sleeping....
as soon as I wake up...woozy.

It feels more like woozy, than dizzy. I know it is a form of dizzy...but it makes me nuts.

Did you feel like this? Do you ever get a woozy/off balance feeling from any turns, anything...anymore? Thanks so much subs.

Hey, I think I know what you are talking about....does everything seem faster then normal??? Did you get VN when you were pregnant???

muddygurl

I did get VN during my 8 month pregnant. I am not sure what you mean about everything moving fast...could you try to explain a bit more? Thx.

I have a decreased in my VOR gain....8 months preg. I cant imagine having VN too...My heart goes out to you...The recovery phase I am in now, is only for a short time either am, late am, or early pm, I get some symptoms...I woke up this morning feeling great! keep up your exercises and you'll get better...

...I think theres alot of people ouy there that are diagnosed wrong as welll...Sometime a certain diet makes all the difference in the world...check it out!

Muddygurl

So you are pregnant too? You noticed VOR was affected? What do you mean by things moving fast?

What VRT's are you working on? Did you have the crazy harsh vertigo to start?

Thanks Muddy..

Im not preg...how did you get your VN...mine was from an upper esp. infection...the vertigo I had was BPPV...i never had dizziness it was just vision and balance problems....

when I move my head everything is faster...The VOR execerises that I am doing are the ones where you focus on the traget and move your eyes left and right then up and down....also, where I stand between two tagets and just move my eyes to right and left...and the tracking exercises....

Thanks Muddy...

Could you tell me how to do the tracking exercise? And explain how you do..the stand between two targets?

Subs..I feel like my eye symptoms are getting aggravated right now..is that typical?

Thanks Muddy...

Could you tell me how to do the tracking exercise? And explain how you do..the stand between two targets?

Did you post on that sharp sight as Muddy? I will have to read some posts.

Subs..I feel like my eye symptoms are getting aggravated right now..is that typical?

Stand between two targets and just move you eyes from one target to the next w/o moving your head....keep the targets about 20 inches apart and stand back about 3 feet....Tracking is keeping your head still and move your eyes on a target in front of you...I use a small wooden stick and put a letter on it...move the stick left and right and make sure your eyes follow the letter w/o moving your head...I will also track moving cars while i am out walking...

30-40 times....repeat 5 times and do it 4-5 times aday!

muddy

SUBS,

what exercises help the wobbly/bouncing eyes go away????

Thanks Muddy..

You said do this 4-5 X's a day right...so do 20 reps...4-5X's a day...

Just wanted to make sure I understood you. I know marching when reading was told as a good VRT. Also shaking your head back and forth and trying to read.

Thanks for your help.

Move you head each side 20 times!!! Go for it!!!!!