Ive recently seen a few adverts, 1 on this site today, for a product called
"Strauss Heartdrops".
Says it can dissolve plaque build up in the arteries? and so return blood pressure to normal.
Its fairly expensive, but if it would work the way it says it can, i would have no hesitation in trying some.
Has anyone tried this, or know of anyone who has tried this? and if so, did it seem to work????
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Lenin
01-22-2007, 08:31 AM
Pure quackery at $72 a bottle.
Mr. Strauss should be tossed into prison even though he has a disclaimer saying that he "can not make any medical claims!"
And then he goes ahead and DOES SO!
northman
04-09-2007, 05:14 AM
Pure quackery at $72 a bottle.
Mr. Strauss should be tossed into prison even though he has a disclaimer saying that he "can not make any medical claims!"
And then he goes ahead and DOES SO!
Well I don't usually comment on wither someone should go to prison but I have seen what Strauss Heart drops do. My uncle was in bad shape. He had stints put in and was on tons of medication. He got worse and sick on some of the medication. His wife got him to start taking the heart drops...I thought since he stopped taking his meds he would be dead within six months. I was wrong...after three months he started feeling better and after a year he was even better. Now five years later he still takes it but at a lower amount and is healthier than I have ever seen him. He was on the same diet and even though now he exercises ( he could not 5 years ago) the only change was him taking the drops. He swears by them. I know the medical field hates this guy...then again for years they hated midwives.
He recommended it to a young Italian friend who had high cholesterol and the guy says his doctor now says he has good levels.
I believe in doctors but I am starting to wonder if some of them should not be put in prison. Instead of working with someone they persecute anyone not in the society. So unless you have direct evidence that herbs cannot help then you should watch what you say. I saw the results so I can say you have no idea what you are talking about.
bethsheba
04-09-2007, 07:15 AM
If this was a cureall, believe me, the press would be all over the story...and they haven't been yet. I'm with Lenin on this one. If you want to spend $72 to reduce your blood pressure, use it to hire a personal trainer!
Bethsheba
Lenin
04-09-2007, 09:47 AM
So unless you have direct evidence that herbs cannot help then you should watch what you say.
That kind of thinking turns logic on its head. Let me give you an example. I have a couple lovely Chinese Evergreen plants. If I assert that just by waving a single leaf over one's head, a lottery win and a long life are absolutely certain. But it is only MY plant that works this way.
So please send me $1000 and I will send you a leaf.
According to the quoted statement, until you can PROVE by DIRECT EVIDENCE that my plant leaf will NOT work this way, it must be assumed that it WILL.
See what I mean?
When one makes an extraordinary claim, the onus is not on the universe to prove it incorrect, but rather on the person MAKING the claim to prove it CORRECT.
To make an unproven assertion that a product will cure disease in order to sell such a product is a CRIME in the United States, whether it is prosecuted or not.
Mike In NY
04-09-2007, 10:17 AM
You may want to consider this product: Vitamin C with Bioflavonoid, Quercetin, Green Tea, L-Lysine and L-Proline based on Pauling-Rath recommendation. It's made by NSI. A two month supply is $12.00.
northman
04-10-2007, 10:04 AM
That kind of thinking turns logic on its head. Let me give you an example. I have a couple lovely Chinese Evergreen plants. If I assert that just by waving a single leaf over one's head, a lottery win and a long life are absolutely certain. But it is only MY plant that works this way.
So please send me $1000 and I will send you a leaf.
According to the quoted statement, until you can PROVE by DIRECT EVIDENCE that my plant leaf will NOT work this way, it must be assumed that it WILL.
See what I mean?
When one makes an extraordinary claim, the onus is not on the universe to prove it incorrect, but rather on the person MAKING the claim to prove it CORRECT.
To make an unproven assertion that a product will cure disease in order to sell such a product is a CRIME in the United States, whether it is prosecuted or not.
I am not selling or buying. I just told you what happened with my Uncle. Personally I don't give a rats **s what anyone does. I can tell by your comments that you are one of the types that believe what a survey or study says. With a degree in math and another in Economics I can tell you I can change a few variables and make anything look good or bad. Delve into some of the statistical magazines and you will see a ton of studies that have been put out by medical journals that are not valid because they dropped a dependency or discounted a variable. So unless you are doing the study yourself you cannot make claims about anything. These are the same people that control the medications that you take and later you find it destroys your liver etc. You can go ahead and believe what they want you to believe. I don't buy into everything Naturopaths, Doctors or the AMA says. If a person accepts what someone else tells them at face value then they are a fool. As I stated that is what happened to my uncle. I called him last night to talk about it and he says his doctor agrees that the herbs in the drops are traditionally used for blood and heart. Will the doctor go on TV and say that?? I doubt it as he has to toe whatever the Medical society and the Meds companies want to keep their business interests solid. If you think the AMA is out there for your benefit I WILL say you are a fool. It was set up to maximize the benefits for the doctors. It has nothing to do with the benefits of the people.
northman
04-10-2007, 10:13 AM
Will the drops work miracles....I doubt it. Can it help? Probably. Will it fix years of misuse of a persons body? nope. I know that garlic is one of the best things you can take for your blood. You can say what you what but that has been used since Roman times for infection and for blood issues.
As far as claims go just look at what the AMA says before saying someone should be put in jail. If we sent all the doctors and Med execs to jail for the bad drugs and misuse they would have to build new prisons.
Lenin
04-14-2007, 07:56 AM
I am not selling or buying. I just told you what happened with my Uncle. Personally I don't give a rats **s what anyone does.
That would be fine but it isn't true. What you actually POSTED was:
So unless you have direct evidence that herbs cannot help then you should watch what you say.
I pointed out the serious error in logic of anyone who thinks like that. I very carefully "watch what I say" and, unlike some, would never dream of touting unproven nostrums, aka QUAKERY, as cures for anything...much less something so deadly serious as heart disease.
I repeat, anyone who makes a claim of herbal cures for heart disease has the onus of proving the claim. It is NOT up to the world to disprove every snake-oil cure.
ontopofit
06-03-2007, 03:26 AM
I personal can say they do indeed work. I could not walk from my house to the street without chest pains before and out of fear of have a heart operation I tried the Heartdrops. Within 6 months of using them I was hiking mountains and feeling like I was twenty years old. I also had people who knew me buy them and they all had a very good response. I started to use them because I was scared to death and it worked a miracle for me.
Machaon
06-03-2007, 12:15 PM
I just did some research on Strauss Heartdrops. One article stated that a company selling Strauss Heartdrops was ordered to pay a $1000 fine to the State of Iowa, and ordered to refund $35,110.43 to 288 Iowans who made purchases since 2001. The article also stated that this same company was also fined by the State of Iowa $10,000, in 1992, and ordered not to sell their products in Iowa.
Another article had a warning from the FDA about the claims of Strauss Heartdrops.
I have read enough negative articles about Strauss Heartdrops to have serious doubts about their claims and I would not take the product out of worries that they could cause more harm than good.