Hello everyone!

I have a problem that I'm rather puzzled about. Okay, I was diagnosed with internal and external hemmoroids around November. They also did a colonoscopy because I was having severe pain after having a bowel movement. Nothing was found when they did the colonoscopy besides the internal hemmoroids.

Anyway, my doctor told me to just not ever strain when I use the restroom and to use the preparation H Suppositories when needed. Well, I haven't been straining, but still have to use the suppositories all of the time. It hurts so bad. I have one hemmoroid that extends all the way from my rectum almost to the edge of my vaginal opening.

Another thing that confuses me is that when the hemmoroids are at their worst, I have severe cramps (only after after a bowel movement). Even if my stools are completely normal, after I go to the bathroom, my abdomen hurts. My doctor told me there was no way that hemmoroids can cause cramps and told me to get more fiber. I've been using benefiber for several weeks now. Still no improvement. And I swear I only get the cramps and pains after having a bm...and when my hemmoroids are worse.

Has anyone else experienced this? What in the world can be causing this? Can hemmoroids in fact cause cramps??

Thanks,
Vers

Hi V, I've dealt with hemmoroids for many years also, finally had my 3 internal ones removed last year. it wasn't fun for a few weeks but I got through it just fine. i have been very happy since then.

Yes, i too always had bad lower abdomen cramps when they would flare up, even while using the prep h and citricel every day. my gp said it went along with having hemmoroids, go figure huh, depends onthe doc i guess.
I found relief with a heating pad most nights. i tend to have more problems with diarherra(sp?) so i would also take imodiam which seemed to help the cramping.

sad thing is i just had a colonoscopy yesterday and they found another internal hemmoroid. I was kind of groggy after procedure so didn't question gi doc about it, but am having endoscopy in 2 weks and plan on finding more info about the size and why it came back so sooon. I am not a happy camper.

in a brochure they sent home with me about hemmoroids is a paragraph about a new procedure they do in their office called IRC; infrared coagulation for internal hems. i might look into that before it gets too large.but then again, it will have to wait because i'm having gallbladder removed on the 6th o march. when it rains it pours huh!


but back to the cramps, try a heating pad or a hot bath with epson salts and alcohol. that might help a little. hope you feel better soon.

Thanks for the response. I too have diarrhea more often than the usual constipation found with hemmoroids. I had my gallbladder taken out two years ago, it's amazing how much better you'll feel when it's out ;3

Anyway, thanks again. I don't feel so alone now knowing that someone else is dealing with the same thing...I just thought I was wierd..lol

Peace,
-Vers

I know what you mean. I've been reading everything i can on board concerning gall bladder trying to feel that i'm doing the right thing having surgery. it sure helps to hear what others are dealing with and if it gels with what you're going through.

I don't have stones, i just go through periods of r and l abdominal pain, nausea and terrible fatique. i had all the tests also which showed nothing until i had a hidda scan, gall bladder functioning at 19%. so i guess out it comes. I am relly hoping this will be the answer, i just always feel slightly ill and my eyes look terrible, kind of yellowish, but doc says no jaundice.

I've been watching my diet very carefully the last month and have had no major attacks, just don't feel well. so in 2 weeks will have endoscopy done to make sure there is no problems there and then 2 more weeks, gall bladder surgery. I am a bit nervous but still hoping for the best so will be glad to get it done.

At 59 i still got a lot of living to do, lol . busy chasing grandkids and loving it.

take care Verse, star

Hehe,

hello Stars. I'm am actually only 20, got my gallbladder taken out at 18!! I had a congenital defect though. My gallbladder was functioning around 9% on my scan. When they were doing the test, my gallbladder swelled up to the size of a baseball..much larger than normal. And I feel so much better without it!!

As far as the surgery went, I had few problems. I mean, I was obviously sore coming out of the surgery, but it was less pain than the actual gallbladder problems. If you have the laprascopic procedure, you'll be back to regular activities in about a week. I actually went for a short walk the same day as my surgery ;) . If you have the regular, open surgery, you'll have a longer healing time, but you'll feel so much better it won't even matter. :3

Keep us updated. I'd love to follow you through this and hear how things go.

-Vers

Vers,

I have taken psyllium for 23 years and have hemorrhoids. I am not familiar with how Benefiber acts other than It is a soluble fiber.

To have normal BMs a person needs 25 to 35 grams of fiber daily. And, it needs to be a combination of both soluble and insoluble fiber. Along with 6 to 8 glasses of water daily.

I think some day you may have to have surgery on the external hemorrhoid. As you may know -- hemorrhoids are like varicose vein--- i.e.-- veins that have lost their elasticity. Once you have them -- they never go away w/o surgery.

Your cramping is probably caused by lack of magnesium in your diet. Lacking magnesium at the cellular level will cause cramping as well as spasms.

I suggest that you read the some of the Sticky Thread at the top of this page -- "GERD Sufferers- I Feel Good Let Me Tell You Why" started by bluepumkin --
It is about bluepumkin suffering with hiatal hernia problems for 9 years because of lack of magnesium. Although GERDs is very different than cramping after a BM -- the effect is the same-- pain!!

Every cell in your body contains magnesium and 67% is in the bones. But, lacking it can cause cramping in muscles anywhere in the body.
I suggest you try an excellent homeopathic remedy for cramping--- Magnesia Phos-- use as needed. If it relieves the cramping --It indicates that your system lacks it--
The remedy is readily available at health food stores and causes no side-effects and it act in about 30 minutes or so.

I wish You well---Harry

stars,

My wife had her gallbladder removed 11/16/06 and is doing fine. She had stones but never had an attack-- until we ate a very greasy meal the day before. She was 70 on Dec, 16.

Her gallbladder was removed at 9pm and the next day she came home. Other than eating light for a few days -- there has been no changes in her eating habits or BMs.

After coming home, I never fixed her a meal. She did every thing-- ate soup, yogurt, jello, and fruit for several days. She never missed a day taking oil vitamins like A, D, E and Omega 3 fish oil along with the other vits and minerals she takes-- except for the day she was in the Hospital.

With a HIDA scan function rate of 19% you should have your gallbladder removed.
Your gallbladder is responsible for eliminanting alot of toxins from your liver but also cholesterol, bile and bilirubin--
It sound like the bilirubin that causes your stool to have the darker sort yellow color is not being eliminated properly-- it may be the problem with your eyes??

Are your liver enzymes OK?

God Bless---Harry

Harry,

Hello and thanks for your response and advice. I may have to try the magnesium thing. I do take multivitamins tho, would that interfere? just a plain 'ol multivitamin. I've been having a lot of digestive problems, pretty much my whole GI tract seems to be affected, so I hope this will at least help a little if not clear it up completely.

Thanks again! I'll keep you updated. If it works for me, I'll post it here for others :3

-Vers

Wow Verse, 18 huh? it astounds me how many young people have had gallbladder surgery. You must have been one sick cookie. I'm glad it went so well for you. yes, i'm also suppose to have the lap technique done. i'm really not too worried about the surgery itself, i'm just hoping it is the answer . i'd hate to go through this and still feel the same way.

i too have many gi problems and i think alot are caused by meds i take. i have been reading on board about ppi's for gerd causing false hidda scan results. well, i've been on nexium for 6 yrs. i mentioned this to all 3 docs, gp, gi and surgeon and no one cared about it. so , here i am, hoping the surgery does the trick.

after this is over i am going to try to get off the nexium. i'm going to talk to Harry about this.

I hope you find an answer for your cramps, i hope the magnesium helps.

i will definetly keep you updated . it's nice to have someone to talk to who's been through the same thing.

thanks for caring, and you stay well too, stars

Thanks Harry for your reply, i truly appreciate your knowledge . i've been reading many posts on both gallbladder and gerd and i can tell you know what you're talking about.

First, concerning my surgery, The gi doc said my liver numbers were very good so i guess that includes my enzymes. I'm glad things went well for your wife, i'm hoping for the same results.

Harry, i think i read every post on the gerd thread. i have been on nexium for 6 years and i think it is causingme joint pain . I've tried to stop taking it and just take the calcium/mag/zinc pills someone said they took from walmart, but didn't work. my heartburn was awful and it gave me terrible diarreah. i did this for about 6 days , also was taking tums which only worked for a few minutes. finally had to stop and go back on nexium. when i had the colonoscopy i asked doc about this. he said most people get constipated from mag/calc but being i also have ibs that yu can never tell how things will react with that.

what do you think, did i do something wrong. should i try again. i sure wouldlove to get off nexium.

for some reason, i'm having trouble posting this, i will try again. thanks for your help.

stars

Harry, also about the liver enzymes.... I am not able to take statin drugs. they just make me horribly sick and in pain. I am worried about the cholesterol after surgery. do you think it will cause me liver problems. maybe i should start a new thread, i'm not sure.

thanks again, stars

Hello Stars,

It is nice hearing back from you. Ironically you say you have GERD and other GI upset? When my gallbladder was really bad, I had reflux too. I now have it very rarely :3. I think it would do a lot of good for you to have it removed. As far as the cholesterol, another thing is that cholesterol is a big cause for gallstones. If you have high cholesterol, you have a higher risk of gallstones.

I would say that after your gall surgery, you should be able to come off of the Nexium shortly after. Having that nasty little guy out of there will make you feel so much better that you won't even realize how much it was actually affecting you until it is gone and healed up.

Ya, I was pretty sick when I had mine. I had problems for years, but never imagined it would be my gallbladder at my age, but it was a birth defect...it would fill up and not empty, so I'm rather glad it is gone. I take everything in stride tho and take one day at a time ;3

Again, it is nice hearing back from you and thanks for your reponses!

Take Care,
Vers

Stars,

I think you should start your own thread-- it sounds like you have enough problem areas to write about.

As you may know statin drugs change the way your liver handles cholesterol and when your gallbladder is operating at 19% -- it certainly could be a problem? And, statin drugs by them selves produce side-effects in
many people with normal functioning gallbladders.

I agree with all that Vers said in her message.
Your LIVER opertion is just so very important by working on everything we eat & drink. I think problems will go away when it is empting alot better.

When is your surgery?

I wish you well--- Harry

Thanks Verse and Harry, You have both made me feel alot better about surgery.It's scheduled for March 6th Harry.

I'm just going to stay on nexium till i'm done recuperating and then hopfully things will look much better. If not, then i'll try tackling thenext issue.

Having your advise and life experiences has been so uplifting and helpful. Thank you both so much. i'll keep you updated. i have the endoscope on feb. 20th. we'll see what that produces.

thanks for caring
stars