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carlon923
02-13-2007, 12:01 PM
Just wondering if anyone has gotten a second opinion and if that doctors had told them something different. After several failed IUI w/injectables, my RE is basically saying that he doesn't think i'll get pregnant unless I do donor egg / IVF....he says everything is good, but that i am not getting pregnant due to my age...(ok, I'm only 38, nothing like making you feel old). I produce eggs, which last time was 5 very good follies, but for whatever reason they are not meeting w/my DH sperm (he's been test and is fine). I mentioned that I might want another opinon and you would have thought that I had three heads the way he looked at me. I know it's my right to get a second opinion, but just wondering if anyone has had one and if that doctor helped them or am I just getting desperate to have a second child...my first daughter was no problem.

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lahc1
02-13-2007, 12:18 PM
Hi Carlon,

I'm starting IUI cycle #4 and am getting a bit frustrated with my RE too, wondering if he's doing everything he can. I have a second opinion with another clinic scheduled for 2/27. I haven't mentioned it to my current clinic yet but need to soon as I will need to get a copy of my records. I'm sure they won't be pleased either but it's my right and I'd rather know now if there are other options out there than find out years from now. Good luck on your decision and let me know how it goes.

Also, I don't know anything about your situationbut why would they say you need donor egg without trying your own first? At 38 I would imagine you still have good eggs to try IVF w/icsi with your own?

Lori

deluka96
02-13-2007, 12:27 PM
Hi there,

Well I am all for a 2nd opinion. My 1st RE that I was w/ for 8 months had told us that I ovulate too early in my cycle and that DH had midly low sperm count. After 3 failed IUI's he recommended we do laparscopy b/c his attempt to do HSG failed and then IVF. Before we did surgery we decided to get a 2nd opinion. We only have one RE in our county so I had to travel the the one at a bigger city 90 minutes away. After two visits with new RE he found did sucessful HSG that confirmed my tubes were clear and he found that DH had normal count but poor motility and morhology as well as porr penetration. Very important information!! I just had my 1st IUI with this RE (but had cysts so not sure if it worked this time due to FSH not being good this cycle) I am still waiting for BETA this friday. So yes I think if an RE is saying to you due to age and to get donor egg especially after you did get pregnant on your own once, I def would seek another opinion.

My 1st RE also took it bad which really made my decision to switch all together. During all the time I was in treatment with him I never got a phone call from him always was the nurse calling with results. Well, when he found out I was getting a 2nd opinion he called me and basically questioned with an ATTITUDE!! why I felt I needed another opinion. I was offended and felt that his reaction was all the more reason for me to see some-one else and never look back. So that's my story sorry it is so long. Good luck!!

ALM
02-13-2007, 12:43 PM
I would definately get a second opinion. Like you said, it is your right as a patient. I am sorry that you are having trouble getting pg. with #2. I know, all too well, about that. Our DD wants a sibling so badly and we just keep telling her that God will give her one day. I pray that you get your second child that you are longing for. No matter if you already have a wonderful blessing, it doesn't mean that your desire to have another one goes away any. Good luck! I hope your second opinion gives you more options.

Anna Leigh

carlon923
02-13-2007, 02:57 PM
Hi everyone, thanks for reassuring me to get a second opinion. I have wonderful friends who were telling me to, but i didn't know if they were just trying to make me feel better.

Lori - my re said that since I've only had 5 mature eggs during any of my cycles that I wouldn't be a canidate for regular IVF - he wants a lot more eggs, with some dying off and all.

Kathy - you mentioned that your DH had poor penetration issues...is that a different test they do than when they spin the sperm before IUI.

ALM - I know what you mean about your child wanting another sibling. She says special prayers every night and doesn't understand why everyone else has a brother / sister instead of her. It breaks my heart all the time. She's 4 1/2 going on 12 and the questions just keep getting tougher.

I'll keep everyone posted on the second opinion....thanks again

nancy

deluka96
02-13-2007, 03:14 PM
Hi Nancy,

The sperm penetration test SPA or somtimes called Humster test is a different test. It is when the take hamster eggs...:eek: yeah I know.....and they add some stuff to them to make them more human like and they put your DH's sperm in a dish and see how many eggs he penetrates w/i a certain amount of time. Some will also test how fast they move and the head shape of the sperm. Mine did all that but it depends on the lab. Insurance does not cover and ti cost us $350 which I find to be well spent now that we know and RE treats the sperm before IUI is done.

As for your RE telling you that you are not producing enough eggs for IVF...DON'T WORRY. I just discussed this w/ me RE as I have the same concern since so far I have only had 5 the most and usually just 3 at the right size. Each RE will have a different approach for this and you want to find the one that is willing to do all he can. Some are more worried about ruining there percentage rates for IVF so they opnly use the very best canidates for "their" standards. :mad: My Re told me that he is going to double and even triple my medication for this next IUI to try to get me to produce more eggs. I too will not be able to do IVF with own eggs if I can not produce at least 3 good ones. But RE is optimistic that the increase in medication will help. Perhaps that is all you need to and ofcourse another RE to tell you so. :) Things are still looking good for you so hang on to hope!!!! :D Good luck I can't wait to hear about your appt for 2nd opinion. Please be sure you post about it.

ivana27
02-13-2007, 06:30 PM
Hi,
I don't have experience with ivf, but I came across your message and saw your age, 38. Just wanted to give you a little hope, you are not too old! There are so many women out there who would prove it and I know one of them. I have a friend who conceived exactly at 38 and now she has a beautiful baby boy. Not to mention that the oldest mother in the world in 67, that's old!
I think you should definetly get a second opinion, your doctor is just human and he can be wrong. Maybe you didn't get lucky with IUI, but IVF can work miracles nowadays.
Good luck
Ivana

 
 
 




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