Well my girl I wish a BFP for tomorrow.No matter what happens we will be here for u.Try to have a good night and keep busy.I am throwing a ton of BABY DUST your way so make sure u catch it.I will say a prayer for u tonight.Please keep us posted.

Mapia

Yes Kathy, the waiting is finally almost over. I hope you and DH get to celebrate your BFP tomorrow. I am praying for you!: angel:

Holly

You are always so kind to all of us, I hope you get a bfp!! I will check in later to see if you got one!! Good luck.....:blob_fire :blob_fire

Carisa

Deluka Cheeks wanted me to forward her wishes and prayers for a BFP.She is thinking of u and really misses u.:angel:

Mapia

AWWHH!!! Thanks you guys!! Mapia thanks for starting the thread that was very sweet of you!! As for everyone else I want to thank each and every one of you!! You guys really REALLY help me keep it together. I hope I have a BFP and I only hope and pray that all of us will be very soon!!!!

Thanks again!!!!

Kathy-

I vanish for a while to wallow in my own self pity only to realize your 2ww is coming to an end! :blob_fire Here's hoping it's the last one for a good 9 months! Good luck! Crossing fingers and toes (and guarding my last lemon tree...darn things keep disappearing!) :) You deserve that BFP!

Laurie

Army wife!!! Laurie!!! GEEZZE!!! You disappeared on us!! I wrote you on a few posts but you were no where to be found!!! :( I hope your feeling better. I know how this stupid IF crap can get us down. We have been passing around lemon trees sqeezing in people's eyes all b/c of you!! LOL!!! How can we ever repay you!!!! I hope you used those same lemons to cheer you up!!!! If your running low I got a hook up in FL I will send you some more trees fed ex!!!

If your ever down again just make a thread we'll cheer you up!!!! Next time you go MIA on me that is what I will do if I don't see a thread from you!!! Thanks for the post and all joking aside I hope your feeling better. You have really cheered me up on days I was down so let me return the favor ok!!! Thanks again!!!

Good Luck Kathy! Hope you'll start a new thread for your BFP.

Good luck tomorrow Kathy. Sending you lots of BFP vibes!!!:)

Lori

Yes, Kathy good luck, good luck, good luck!!!! So glad Mapia started a threat meant just for you! I hope it works and brings you lots of sticky sticky baby dust!

What's up with the internet today?! I haven't been able to log on to the boards all day. :confused: I was so sure we would've heard from Kathy by now...KATHY...Are you there?? I'm thinking of you girl! And I'm praying you and DH are out celebrating your BFP and you will share your awesome news with us sometime soon...:angel:

Holly

I was just able to get on too. I don't know what is going on :confused:

I'm been so anxious to hear from Kathy too. I've been thinking of you all morning, hoping you have great news to share with us!

Lori

Hi Holly, Lori and everyone I have been trying to log on all day. Darn system was not working when I could have really used some support from my cyber buddies.

Ok guys. Well I did HPT this morning and it was a BFN…..:mad: as I had said before this is not much of a surprise :rolleyes: as it was the WORST cycle I have ever had with 2 cysts, 1st ever High FSH level and only 2 follies and crappy lining. DH sperm count was also not great. The good news is my egg quality seemed to be good so I am most happy about that if there is anything TO BE happy about. Still waiting for BETA but even the Nurse said EPT is a good way to test …. in a nice way she said it probably is BFN. Glad I had acu yesterday as I feel it helps me stay calm :yawn: . So moving forward my biggest concern now is that my FSH is back to normal for next cycle, actually for the next few years please :dizzy: !!!!! and more importantly that when he increases the follistim that I will respond with more egg production. This is a HUGE concern for me as it will determine if I will be an IVF candidate using my own eggs (don’t even want to go there). I asked RE to do inhibin B blood test on me which will give us some more information of my egg quality and production but this test is just a general test for those of you who may want to have it done sometimes one month levels are good and sometimes not so good so I just want to say I am doing it to get an idea….if the test gives me a really bad result then it will most likely be an indication of a problem. But for you guys if you do get it done it may have to be done several times as levels may change. As my RE told me inhibin B and FSH levels that are not good does not mean you won’t get pregnant he has cases to prove it where pregnancy was achieved with much worse FSH as mine and the women being much older too so I just wanted to add that for those who ever had or will have abnormal results in any of the above tests. So really I feel I have more to worry about than just this cycle the BIG Picture is what’s at stake here…. :eek: I am anxious to see how I react to adjustments in medications. RE and DH still want to do one more IUI…. I guess I don’t have a choice since we have to get my egg production going better 1st so this is what I have to deal with :rolleyes: . No sign of AF :mad: but I hope if she’s going show her dumb butt that she better get out here and do it. I’ve got some lemons and limes I’m gonna squeeze on her butt!!! The reality is I have changed they way I pray to god. I will still pray to have my own child but god already knows whether I will or will not. But I have a new prayer I am praying that this IF journey will end soon b/c I just am getting tired of all this pain and suffering and want to go on living again. So I am going to pray that if IVF isn’t going to work for god to help me a little and not let me even be a candidate for it. I don’t know if my egg production is not good if I will use donor eggs. I just can’t even think :( of it right now so I will just take it all in stride until I have more information.


I am going to FL for the christening of my godson in March and have to see SIL that is pregnant w/ #2 and will likely be showing a bit by then. I am already feeling crappy about the whole thing. Crappy for wanting to avoid her and crappy for myself . I know she feels weird w/ us and I just don’t know how it’s going to be when we go. I hate this part of IF it just makes you feel like such a bad person for feeling this way and yet you can’t help it. Anyway I had to vent and let this all out. Sorry for the long e-mail :eek: . Just one more thing….

Questions:

Does anyone know between Gonal F and Follistim is one stronger that the other when measuring the IU’s they give you??? For i.e. Is 75 IU of Gonal the same as 75 IU’s of follistim???

If you are taking progesterone, how long does it take for AF to show up??



Thanks for all the support you guys. I appreciate all the prayers you sent my way. I guess Saint Gerard and Saint Anne are just too busy for me right now.


Oh and a quote for the day…(got it out of a fortune cookie once and I keep it on my wall at work) here it is….” Many a false step is made by standing still.” So I'll keep moving I suppose.

Oh Kathy, I am so sorry. I was really hoping this would be it for you. Sounds like you are doing okay though. I hope your FSH levels out soon and you have a perfect cycle next month. Hang in there, I have a feeling it will happen for you soon. In the meantime, we are here for you when you need to vent.

Sometimes I dread family gatherings too because DH and I are the only ones on both sides with no kids so I know how you feel. It does make you feel like a bad person but just remember we are going through a lot so cut yourself some slack. IF is just a bad thing that happened to us and we're all doing the best we can to get through it everyday. You're going to the christening and you're going to be there for your family so that's what counts.

As for your questions, I've only taken follistum so I don't know but I am on 100iui/day and I've been told that's a low dose. Both times I was on progesterone it took 3 days from stopping it for AF to show up. I'm sending you some extra lemons to squeeze on her to make her come sooner for you!

Take care of yourself today sweetie. I hope you are feeling better soon.

Lori

:mad: Kathy, I am so sorry honey. This is NOT fair! Obviously, we were all hoping and praying for different news. I feel so defeated that we got another BFN this month. My heart truly goes out to you. I can hear your pain in your message, and I wish there was some way to take it away. I know what you mean about praying that this journey will end soon. I've been thinking of praying for the same thing lately, but I am just so afraid it will end in failure and I'm not ready to face that yet. It certainly is tiring though. There are many times I have thought it would just be easier to forget having children and move on with my life. But I just can't. Man, I wish I had some words of encouragement or something to offer you. I hate the stupid BFN's. They suck. Well, I will continue to pray for you honey that the disappointment begins to fade and you can look towards your new cycle with renewed hope. I am so sorry you are still going through this.

Holly

Oh, Kathy that just stinks to you know what. I am so sorry. Sounds like you have the right attitude even though that doesn't make the hurt go away. Holly's right, it just isn't fair. But I'm glad you are going to follow that fortune cookie and keep moving on. We'll be with you every step of the way. ((((Hugs)))) to you. Hang in there today.

Hi Lori, Holly, and Kari,

Thanks so much for the support. You guys always know just the right thing to say to make it a little easier to bare. I hope stupid AF comes soon. I am going red wine her butt to see if I can push her out!! LOL!! Or maybe a little babydance will annoy her and she'll want to leave!!! Holly-I knw what you mean about being afraid of the prayer you still have a long way to go before the prayer should even seep into your mind. I hope you never have to even think it. I just have to be realstic about where I'm at and I do hope IVF will work for me. As I'm sure you all feel I just wish I knew.

Thanks for readinf my whole LONG e-mail and being there for me. You guys really are the best!! :) Happier times are ahead for all of us no matter what happens.

Kathy sweetie I am so sorry I swear I prayed so much for u.Darn cant we get some BFP's.I really feel bad but I am glad to see u will try another round.This board today made me so mad I got up early to go to re for day 3 u/s and b/w and the first thing I did when I woke up was log on to see what happened with u.Stay strong my girl.Go out tonight get wasted let it out.

I feel u on that baptisim so u are baptizing?We say in greece when u baptise its good luck so u never know.

I am glad to hear about ur fsh and all that is back to normal.By the way AF showed next day after I stopped progesterone.But everyone is different.I hope that witch wont make u wait.Take care hun and we are here for u.

Mapia

Kathy!!!

I was thinking about you all morning and am so sorry to hear about yout BFN!!! It sounds like you are being positive though and thats very good to know!! Hopefully this coming cycle will be THE ONE for you!

Lots of Hugs, Dana.

Hi Dana and Mapia,

Thanks so much for thinking of me. It was so frustating not to be able to get on and talk to my buddies :)

Mapia- I hope your right about the batism DH and I are the god parents so I am very excited about that!!! Any word on your b/w and u/s results????

Im so sorry for you... It must have been so disappointing. I hope next month turns around for everyone and we see spring come around with lots of BFPs!!!!

Just got a call but tech told me this morning overies look good and so did lining.So nurse just called I get to start clomid tonight yeah.

In greece we take a baptizing very serious they say u are the second mother if anything happens to the parents the god parents will be given custody of the child.It will be nice to baptize u will feel good.I know I did when I baptized my little godson and we have this real strong bond.I feel like he is mine.When I left greece I cried more cause I was leaving him it felt like I was leaving my child behind.

I really will pray for u.

I just had to second Aymie's post...May spring bring lots of BFP's to us!!!!!!!!

:blob_fire :bouncing: :blob_fire :bouncing: :blob_fire

Mapia, I'm glad to hear your appt went well...

Holly come on we need some funnies for Deluka today.Got to make her laugh.Hey maybe I will send her a picture of me that would make her laugh.:jester:

I wish we could all get together and get wasted with Kathy tonight that would be fun.We would defently be on the 6:00 news.

Ha Ha!!! Yeah boy do I wish I could get toasted with you guys!!! I will def be drinking wine tonight!!! It's so darn cold that is the only thing you can drink around here. So basically I will ingest fermanted grapes. Army Wife had a good idea on that one but she has disappeared on me again!!! Thanks for giving me a laugh Mapia. There should be an IF channel or show. I know they have the adoption stories on TLC but they should have IF stories. That would be really good to watch. I iwll be looking out for a greek girl names Mapia on the 6pm news. You crazy girl you plan for us all to be wasted by then. That's some ealrly happy hour :)

Mapia, you're a trip. The only thing I can think of that would be funny about a picture of you would be if you were squatting over multiple HPT's in the middle of a store...BUT, as much as I love ya girl, that is not a picture I would really want to see. :jester: You'll have to keep it in your archives for you and DH or maybe put it in your future child's baby album...now THAT would be unique.

Kathy, I've been staying away from the alcohol lately, but I just might have a drink in your honor tonight. We can all party together in spirit! I have to admit, I have started checking in with you guys before I check in with my 'real live friends'. I will never be able to leave these boards! :)

Holly

Tomorrows 6:00 news.Yeah what the hell lets ditch work and start happy hour.Lucky DH he will get some action tonight if ur getting toasted......hahahaha.

Mapia

Holly- I have not had ANY alcohol in at least a month. God only knows why I think it will help when my sister got trashed when she was pregnant and she was ok and I wasn't so I guess it doesn't really matter just a mind thing. I will drink a few drink now but once AF comes I will stop again :) It's so true I tell you guys more than I tell anyone about IF. My friends to even bother calling or asking anymore but whatever their happy mommies now so that don't give a crap about me anymore!!! Except maybe one or two :)

Kathy, I know what you mean. I know my friends care for me, they just don't get it. I also secretly feel that they either get annoyed or feel guilty when I DO bring up IF with them, so I really try to limit how much I discuss with them. As for the alcohol, I usually allow myself one or two drinks in the days after AF shows...I figure at that time I know I'm not preggo and it will be out of my system by the time of O anyway. This month I haven't had any though because I'm on all the extra meds and they warn against interactions...I still haven't decided if I will have that one drink tonight or not. Maybe you can have one for me ;)

Holly

I'm sorry about the results, Deluka. I just hope that AF shows up soon so that you can try again. I will be joining you in that drink tonight. I don't drink when ttc, but right now there will be no harm for sure. (Perhaps that is the silver lining??? ;) )

I don't have any friends who can relate to the trouble that DH and I have been having. DH's sister had troubles, but the doc told her to lose wait. She lost 50 pounds (not that anyone could tell) and was sucessful. She says that she knows what we are going through, but she really has no idea.

Take good care of yourself!

- Heather

Hi Blue,

We must have posted at the same time. Thanks for the kind words!! Your so sweet :) I am glad I can be there for you and so glad to have you help ease my nerves. I guess I am just afraid that even with increasing my meds it won't work I keep hearing about all these women w/ 10,12 16 follies and sometimes they still don't get BFP with IVF. So if I ony have 3-5 then what will they say about my chances. I hope your right and that I will have a better response w/ an increase in injectibles. I wish I was joining you with IVF but since I just changed RE's he's still trying to figure out the right cocktail. I do love this new RE so i am hopeful he will be able to help me get to be a mommy soon :) thanks again!!!! I am getting so excited for you and your next steps for IVF!!!!

Kathy I know what u mean about friends.Its so true u see who ur real friends are through the rough times.I have completly cut girls I grew up with out of my life. Not like they care cause most my old friends are married with kids so I dont fit in.They can all go u know where.So just have fun with DH nevermind about friends.

I am not sure if Cheeks will do another she is still thinking about it.I will fill u all in as she tells me.

Mapia

Kathy, I know what you mean. I know my friends care for me, they just don't get it. I also secretly feel that they either get annoyed or feel guilty when I DO bring up IF with them, so I really try to limit how much I discuss with them. As for the alcohol, I usually allow myself one or two drinks in the days after AF shows...I figure at that time I know I'm not preggo and it will be out of my system by the time of O anyway. This month I haven't had any though because I'm on all the extra meds and they warn against interactions...I still haven't decided if I will have that one drink tonight or not. Maybe you can have one for me ;)

Holly

Holly if I don't pass out after the 1st one since it's been so long!! I will have one for you too!!! I'm agree completely about the friends mine react the same as yours and I just don't like to discuss it with them anymore. Since I live far away from them now (friends here I won't even tell..TMI for them) it's just easier not to talk as much. Besides there is always that one who makes an ignorant comment that irritates me b/c they don't have a clue!! :rolleyes:

I'm sorry about the results, Deluka. I just hope that AF shows up soon so that you can try again. I will be joining you in that drink tonight. I don't drink when ttc, but right now there will be no harm for sure. (Perhaps that is the silver lining??? ;) )

I don't have any friends who can relate to the trouble that DH and I have been having. DH's sister had troubles, but the doc told her to lose wait. She lost 50 pounds (not that anyone could tell) and was sucessful. She says that she knows what we are going through, but she really has no idea.

Take good care of yourself!

- Heather

:wave: Hi Heather!!

Thanks for the support!!!! I really do appreciate each and every response I get from all of you it just helps me feel better :) I will be thinking of you when I have my drink and make a toast to all my gal pals on the board :blob_fire I know you have had it rough lately and I really do hope things go much much better in the next cycle to come. Your funny about SIL I know what you mean when people think they know what your going through and they don't have a clue!!! :rolleyes: if only they could feel what we feel for just one hour maybe that would help but then after a day they would forget again. Oh well I don't wish this on anyone so I'll shut up about it now.

Kathy I know what u mean about friends.Its so true u see who ur real friends are through the rough times.I have completly cut girls I grew up with out of my life. Not like they care cause most my old friends are married with kids so I dont fit in.They can all go u know where.So just have fun with DH nevermind about friends.

I am not sure if Cheeks will do another she is still thinking about it.I will fill u all in as she tells me.

Mapia

Hi Mapia,

Some how I missed your post. It is true your REAL friends are the ones that really show it now. My BFF from NY we're still like two peas in a pod. I have known her since I was 5 years old and my BF since 11 years old. She moved to FL 3 hours from where I used to live but you know I don't live there anymore but she still checks on me every week and we even have a few laughs about IF stuff. When I told her about the hamster test they had to do on Dh we were in hysterics!!!! So at least I have her but she is out of town so I won't be able to talk to her until next week. Well at least I have you guys and my wonderful DH. I know he will spoil me tonight :)

Yeah Kathy just like me and my BF in greece she is praying for me everyday I know she does.Gives me encouragement she helped me a lot with this whole chemical pregnancy even though she is so far away.Of course u guys did to.She keeps asking me when I am coming back and how she cant live without me.I say u have ur DH ur little son and another on the way I think u have everything u need to live.She said I dont have u though.Do u know how that made me feel.I can just feel how much she loves me.Through the good and bad times she loves me and I do to.Thats friendship.

Mapia

Kathy-

*HUGS* girl!! So sorry to hear your news. I was hoping this was it for you! One day at a time...it will happen.

I totally feel ya on the frustration. I truly wish there was something I could do or say to make it better. :) All we can do is trudge on...

On the bright side, looks like we are in the same boat (ok, maybe that is not so much a bright side). Lets pickle our insides and force AF to come on!! I know I will be working on a hang-over here in a few hours!

Have fun tonight and lets get alot of BFPs next time!!

Laurie

Kathy,
I haven't been on in a little bit and I wanted to say I am so sorry you got a BFN!!!!! It just sucks:( I hope you stay strong and like the other ladies stated, may the spring bring lots of BFPs to the board!!!!!
cmarie

Thanks Laurie and Cmarie. Appreciate the support!!! This to shall pass. Hoping AF will show herself already!!!!

Hey Deluka my girl how are u feeling?Did u get trashed last night????hahaha.Just be patient AF will show her ugly face she always does.I just hope she wont make u wait to long.You just stopped the progesterone yesturday so give her a few days.I dont want u getting down about IUI not working for u.Just try and stay positive I know its hard but look at me.I have no problems and I still havent gotten my BFP how frustrating is that.So like I have said god has a plan for all of us.

So chin up girl we are all here for u no matter what the next step will be.Just be thankful u have a great DH.

As for me I dont know what I will do if I get another BFN this month I might just take the first plane out of here and go to greece.Maybe I should just go there and do it maybe the stress here isent helping me get a BFP.I figure if I am there cause thats where I want to be then maybe it will happen.I dont know I am just real confused.Anyway I hope u are enjoying ur weekend.

Mapia

Hey Kathy. I was also wondering how you were holding up? Did you make some sangria last nite? :D I actually flew into Denver last nite and went over to an old friends house and we had a bottle of wine. Yes, that is the silver lining I guess when you get the BFN. I have to work here in Denver all week and since I have friends and family here I decided to skip going home for the weekend and come here early to try and have some fun. But ***t it is cold, esp with the nasty wind they had last nite!!!!!! My DH overnited the meds so I'll do my first injection of bravelle today.

And I just wanted to thank you guys for having that conversation about how your close friends handle your IF. I've got a few very very good GF's, or so I think, and they hardly EVER ask how it's going for me. Even a lot of my family won't even ask, which is weird cause my older sis went through this for 4 years before she had her DS (she conceived naturally and never did any stims). I feel like they just don't want to hear about it or it's too uncomfortable for them. And considering it is almost all I think about it is SO hard not to bring it up. But I've learned it's better to keep my mouth shut... if and when they do ask I always open up and tell them what I'm feeling. But they never say anything to make me feel better. That's why I'm so glad you all are here :)

Well I think I'm off to get my nails done. Kathy, keep us posted if AF comes... I'm hoping she gets here fast for both you and Laurie so we'll all be in the 2WW together again!

Well girls its been quite today I see.Kari good to hear u spent somerime with an old friend its always nice.Sounds like u guys got trashed.What I wouldent give right now to see my BF.So u went straight to Denver that was a good idea getting away and seeing old friends and family.SO u planning on having another bottle of wine tonight or what???I am not a drinker but if I were I would have gotten trashed a few days ago myself.I just dont like alcohol.Weird huh:eek: .I read somewhere that 1 or 2 glasses of red wine a day reduces the risk of heartattack in women.Interesting may have to start drinking then.

Deluka my girl are u hung over today???Did u have that bottle of wine last night?

Mapia

Oh my, Mapia, don't I wish that splitting one bottle of wine would get me trashed!!! :D Two glasses is just perfect for me... nice and relaxed but not enough for hangover! That's the one good thing about cutting back on all the drinking since I've been TTC... no more hangovers!!! There were many a night where I'd enjoy 4 or 5 glasses of a nice pinot noir - as much as it hurt the next day, I doubt I was being good to my heart ;) I think it's great you don't drink - it can be an expensive habit! If I could take back all the $ I've spent boozing it up over the years I could probably have paid for a round of IVF! :)

So Kathy, what is the word? How are you feeling today?

Hey Kari if we all knew the money we wasted in our younger years would be needed now then I think we all would have saved it.Cant regret anything we did back in the day we were young and just doing whatever our friends were.Now even though I really dident drink my friends did so I was the driver.Dont get me wrong I have gotten trashed a few times not many but it never took much for me to get trashed.Even those few times I got wasted I think my friends pressured me into it.But its all good its all about growing up and making mistakes and lessons of life.So how is ur visit there I bet u are having a good time.I guess no drinking now that u are starting meds huh.As we speak I am taking my clomid yeah.Its amazing what a pill so little can do.I am looking at how small it is and it just amazes me what it does to ur body.Well hope u are enjoying urself.

Mapia

Yes, I laugh at now at the things I did ten years ago. But the college memories were well worth it!

Was this day 2 of clomid for you, Mapia? I'm about to head out right now to my sister's BF's house across town. She has had diabetes all her life (poor thing), so I'm looking to her now to help with my injections this week!

Hi Kari and Mapia,

Thanks for thinking of me today. Well Last night DH and I met another friend couple of ours and had Indian food!! Yummie!! Never thought I would like it but DH got me into it and I LOVE it now!!! If you ever go you have to try the chicken tikki masala!! VERY GOOD!!! I had 2 glasses of wine and that was enough!!! Not drunk just a little HAPPY!!! Went out shopping with a GF today and that was fun. Still no sign of AF :( but I know it may take a few days. I am feel a little figity I guess I am just anxious to start again.

Kari-I'm sorry that you have to go through the same thing with your family/friends as I do. It's really hurtful and I don't understand why they don't ask. Perhaps they think we don't want to talk about it but they can start the conversation by saying hey we don't have to talk about this but I just want you to know I am here and I care. That would be nice to hear. My sibling barely call me at all. I am the oldest and have spend countless hours trying to help them for any thing they ever needed. I am oe should I say WAS very close to my younger SIL and she has not ONCE asked me how I am about this. After spending countless hours hearing about her man problems you would think she would show a little compassion for me. In fact when she just moved to this country DH and I took her with us on almost all our dates and I invited her to all my friends parties but whatever. I guess we can't aspect people to be they way we are.... but it hurts and it will be hard for me to forget. The ones that are there for me I will forever be indebted to them. That includes all of you guys!!!!

Hoep you all have a great night!!! Kari-try to stay warm and have fun w/ your friends!!!!!

kathy

Kari is getting a little taste of the cold she has been in warm weather all this time so I bet she is freezing her hiney(sp) off......lol.Thats ok keep it cold and numb for her injections this week.Well Kari that is nice u have ur sisters bf to help u.My mom takes insulin as well and does my hcg shot.Oh yes it is my 2nd day of clomid 3 to go.Boy are my overies doing some jumping jacks right about now.Well enjoy ur evening.

Kathy where do I start about friends trust me I know.I had my group of friends throughout HS we are all greek so we could all relate.We went everywhere together.There was 1 friend in the group that was jeleous of me cause back then I had an awesome boyfriend greek as well tall dark and handsome.He was great to me loved me truely.Well she tried breaking us up so many times but never worked we loved eachother so much.We were together 5 years through HS and then during some college years.Anyway she ended up spreading rumors to my other friends that I was talking about them.And instead of comfronting me they all just blew me off after so many years of friendship.The funny thing is they knew I dident say that stuff but dident even ask me if I did.Now they know but now its to late.So they are all married now with kids and still have their fake click where everyone talks aobut everyone behind their back.I was the only true one always there when they needed me running around helping them like an idiot and that was the thanks I got from them.I hear from other people they feel bad for what they did but now its to late.They broke my heart back then and now it cant be put back together.Anyway I have my BF in greece and she is worth 1 million friends.She is priceless even though she doesnt know exactly what I am going through she asks me most of the time she can just sense I am not well.She really hurts for me just like I hurt for her.As for my family my little brother doesnt know anything my older brother does but never asks.My parents are great and so are my inlaws.Very supportive.I sometimes dont want to talk about it so I tell DH to tell his mother not to ask me all the time that if I want I will call her and talk about it.Plus the only one who knows we are using donor sperm is my mom everyone else thinks we are going through IVF and ICSI.Anyway like u said I will never forget u all for helping me through this and listening to me whine.Glad to hear u had a good time last night.Dont pay to much mind to people I always say god saw all my good deeds so thats all that matters that I am ok with him.I never regret being good to my friends I just regret that they were so selfish.Now u have us Deluka I know we might not really know eachother but I feel so close to u all like I really do know u all.U guys are great.

Mapia

Hi Mapia,

I is true, even though we all barely know eachother I really do feel ike we now a very important part of what is our daily life. It's funny I have never posted on a board in my life until I cam ehere for IF. I was desperate to find people that understood how I felt and this board really geve that to me. I keep thinking about starting a support group here where I live and post it at RE office but I get so unmotivated I am afraid I don't have enough energy to do it now. Anyway, I hope you had a good night. Sorry to hear that story about your greek friends that must have been hard. I hate clicks so better for you that your not in that crowd that all they do is compare and talk behind eachothers back.

TTFN!!!

kathy

Well I have been thinking these past few days and doing some research on IF clinics in my city in greece.I am thinking if I get a BFN the next 2 tries I might just leave and go back to greece.I think the insurance will cover 2 more tries.I cant afford to pay out of pocket after that.I figure if I am there it just might happen.What also has me thinking is next month I turn 33 so I dont have much time until my chances drop.I was talking to DH and said to him if we are blessed with 1 I am not going through this again to have another.I told him I am sorry but I just couldent do all this again.My mom sure seems to think I will have twins cause her grandmother was a twin.I said well with the clomid I am taking that might happen.Anyway just all these choices I have to make and I hate when I am in a situation I dident even put myself in.Like coming back here my mom kept crying for us to come back and DH said well lets try maybe its better.I just get so mad for listening to my mom and not my heart.I mean I love her I know she wants us near her.But when u are married and have ur own life u must live it how the 2 of u want.Anyway I keep blabbing and writing these long posts.I am sorry but u guys listen to me.

As far as my friends I am not sorry at all.One of them emailed me pictures of her kids the other day dident even respond to it.She never calls never emails and from time to time sends me picstures of her kids forget that.This time I dident reply I normally do but not this time.None of them know what I am going through and thats how I want it to stay.Ok sorry for this being so long.Hope u had a good evening.Also wishing u a nice day.

Mapia

Mapia - you are in a tough situation. It's hard to live in one place when your heart is in another. And I mean that's tough just on a day to day basis, so I'm sure it's even worse given that you are going through the IF stuff. When and if you do go back, I'm sure it will bring you and prob your mom comfort that you did try... no regrets.

I'm with you and Kathy both on getting great support from people here on this site. It's a different kind of friendship, but it def is a friendship here in this community of support. I wish none of us had to be here going through ID, but that's out of our control. I'm just glad that we found this site and we found each other!

I hope we hear from Blue soon, and maybe even Cheeks too!

Kathy - no sign of AF?

Hey Kari it is tough just got off the cams I was talking to my little godson he is a trip.I just melt when he says godmom.I get so depressed after talking to them cause I just wish I was there.I hope my mom can come around and just not get so involved.I mean I hate leaving her when I am there but in general I like my life there more.Anyway its hard.

Mapia

Hi Guys,

Mapia-I know it must be hard to live where you don't want to live I feel the same way about where I am but it is not another country for me. I hope you get to go back home soon. I am with you one trying this one more time and that's it I feel as if I will do IVF one round (3 cycles) after this last IUI and if it does not work I will stop. YOu and I are the same age and I feel like this is my window but at some point if it doesn't work I will need to move forward with my life. My maternal grandmother is an identical twin and I so wish to have twins and always throught I would. I really do hope so. Anyway we don't know what the future hold but I keep telling myself their are happier days ahead. At least that is what I hope and strive for, for each one of us. Kari- no sign of AF :( but hopefully soon. I hope you had a nice weekend with family and friends.

So we are the same age Deluka dident know that.Its funny how we know eachothers personal things but we dont know the little things like age,etc.Its also more frustrating when re says there is nothing wrong with u all is good but still no BFP.I see women with problems get pregnant faster.I hope that dident come out the way it sounded.I am just saying if there are no problems with me then whats going on.I am not angry that others are getting pregnant before me I am thrilled I wish for everyone who wants a child to be able to have one with no problem.So anyway I guess we can not question like I have said before.

So I ask why do we live to make other people happy I dont know.I guess I never will I am the type who likes to make other people happy before my happiness.:rolleyes:

Kathy have a bottle of wine and AF will have to show.That witch always has to mess with us.

Mapia

Kathy - I'm so sorry AF hasn't shown. Where is that witch when you need her? One more night of wine and some lemons might do it. I hope you see her soon!

Mapia & Kathy, Just wanted to chime in about the unexplained. I too have no reason why DH and I can't get preg. It is so frustrating sometimes because I see people with issues, get them fixed and then get pregnant no problem. I am happy for them but sometimes wish I had a problem too so it could be fixed. Does that sound crazy that I want a problem? If there is no reason for IF than what's the deal? Why can't I get preg? Is there another reason that I just don't understand? Then I start to wonder if it just wasn't meant to be for me. Maybe I'm suppose to adopt instead of put myself through all this but how do you make the decision when to stop treatments? What is enough? I've been thinking about all this lately since IVF is right around the corner for me too and it's all so confusing. I know you don't have any answers but it was nice to just vent about it. Thanks for listening ;)

Lori

Hey Lori glad to hear from u.Well I dont have a problem but DH is sterile so thats why we are going through IUI with donor.So there is a problem but not with me.My point is I cant even hope that I will get pregnant naturally any given month. Without going through IUI with donor I have no chances of getting pregnant and that drives me crazy.Cause even if he had some u can still always hope.I cant do that all my hope is left to RE and if they are doing their job right.It doesnt sound crazy saying that u wish u had a problem.I know how u feel at least u say u know what the problem is.We are always here to listen.We all need to vent so dont feel bad just let it out we are here to listen.

Mapia

Thanks, Mapia. I'm sorry I knew about the donor sperm but forget. But I know you know what I mean. Many of us keep doing these IUIs that seem perfect but nothing has worked yet. Just frustrating. At least we have each other. I am so thankful for that. You girls have gotten me through so many bad days and I'll never be able to thank you enough. That is definately a silver lining in this IF journey :)

Lori

Ditto that Lori u guys are great and helped through some rough times.Its just nice when someone really understands what ur going through saying I know how u feel and u know they really do know how u feel.

So dh tries to take me out for lunch or to the mall to get my mind off things.But all I see is pregnant women I swear it feels like every women in the mall is pregnant and u arent.Or u just see families with children and so on there were a few birthday parties going on yesturday when we were at the mall.It just makes it worst.Poor guy tries to get me out and about not to think about IF but sometimes its worse going out most of the time I would rather stay home.Everyone is like go out have fun blah blah but they dont know the pain I hold deep down inside when I see pregnant women or kids.At least I know if I am home I wont have to see it.Is that crazy?Dont get me wrong I do get out but a lot of times I dont want to.Ok enough of that.

So where are u in ur cycle Lori?I am on cd5 and on 3rd day of clomid so next Sunday go in for u/s and bloodwork.I may have to trigger that night or the next night and go in for iui next day and day after.Yeah I do 2 back to back iuis because using donor sperm.

Mapia

I totally know what you mean Mapia. I went to lunch with my best friend today (who of course is pregnant) and they sat us right next to a family with 2 adorable little kids. No matter where I looked all I saw was pregnant people or families. There's no way to go anywhere without being hit in the face with your IF issues. I was doing good today so it wasn't horrible but still I would love to just go out like a normal person and have a normal lunch with a friend without thinking about my problems.

We are very close in our cycles :) I am on cd7 and have my first u/s and b/w tomorrow. If it's anything like last month I will probably have my IUI over next weekend, then the 2ww!

Lori

Hi Kathy. I have been gone all weekend long and I am just now getting back online. I am so sorry. I think that I have caught myself up on the boards. I am so sorry that you didn't get your BFP this past month. I know that it is late news now and you may not want to talk about it anymore but I couldn't go on without telling you how sorry I am for you. I was really hopeful for you this month!!:)

I think I read that you are doing one more IUI with higher doses of meds. I think this is a good thing. I pray that it will give you the BFP that you have been praying for. I also read what you said about the prayer you pray now to God and I really like it. I can't even begin to imagine how tired you are with IF and I understand that if IVF wasn't going to work, you wouldn't even want to attempt it. But, I don't think that is going to happen to you. I think that either this last IUI will be what you needed for a BFP or IVF will work for you. I think that you will get your BFP someday and you will know how hard it was to obtain so you will be the best mother there is!!!:) :) You won't take any of it for granted!!:)

I hope that you are feeling okay. Have you already started this month off with b/w and u/s? Has AF even arrived?? Good luck this month. I know you are nervous about stronger meds but your RE knows what he is doing and he will monitor you very closely, I'm sure.

Let me know how you are doing.

Anna Leigh

Gosh, it is crazy how every where you turn there is someone who is preg or someone with their happy family just staring you in the face. I think I told you all I sat next to a woman on my flight to Salt Lake who was totally pregnant, and then on my flight to Denver I sat next to a couple with twin 5 month old boys - lap babies of course, so I mean literally they were right in my face!!! But they were so flippin adorable I enjoyed it.... Kathy that'd be cool if you did have twins. I wish they ran in my family, but I guess with the stims it's certainly possible anyway. :)

So I met my parents this afternoon for lunch and found out something interesting. I always knew my parents had trouble getting pregnant, but I thought it was my mom. My dad is totally not a talker, so it was nice that he decided to chat about it. (My mom had MS and died when I was barely 10, so there is so much I don't know about the years when I was just a twinkle in their eye.... my dad remarried and so I was able to grow up with an adopted mom, but I never get to hear stories about me when I was a baby or beforehand.) Anywho.... my dad told me today it was him who had a problem. Apparently they eventually went across the river to a doctor in Virignia who quickly was able to diagnose my father with something (he didn't recall what), but gave him some pills and a couple months later it worked! I don't know how I feel about that. It's def weird. I mean I'm glad they figured it out (obviously or I wouldn't be here :) ) but I thought my mom had unexplained IF and I thought I was just like her in that regard, and now I'm not. Guess that sounds weird too.

Lori - let us know how your appt goes tomorrow. I hope you have some follies that are well on their way!

Well I hope you all had a lovely weekend. I'm hoping this week goes by VERY quickly as I won't trigger till next Monday morning!

Kari that is very interesting story about ur dad having a problem.Isent it crazy that when u get older u just hear some truth to things u never knew as a child.I think it would make me think as well.My parents were both very fertile my mom said the smell of sperm would make her pregnant..........lol.She is nuts.The thing is all of us are very fertile as well I mean my brothers and I.Little brother has a child older brother has one on the way.I also know I am fertile.But they say IF is not genetic so I guess that doesnt matter.I wish I could get pregnant with just the smell of sperm right.......lol.:p

Yeah so I just got back from my GF's house she has 3 beautiful children.We brought the little one home with us she loves staying over and tomorrow she has no school.She is to cute little attitude total women.She knows shes cute.Dh is playing with her right now.It doesnt bother me so much being around gf and her family cause I love being around them I guess it hurts more seeing infants and pregnant women.

The weird thing is I cant believe we will be triggering next week wow time flew.I guess its that darn 2ww that takes forever to get here seems like a few days ago I had IUI.I go in Sunday for u/s and bloodwork I will either trigger sunday or monday.Depending on follies.Boy am I talkative today writing these long posts.Well ladies hope u had a good weekend tomorrow is Monday:dizzy: Well some people have a paid day off lucky government workers.

Mapia

Oh, that is too funny. the smell of sperm making your mom pregnant! Truly laughing out loud. And I needed a good laugh right about now! :D Gotta thank you for that one Mapia. I hope you have a fun day tomorrow with GF's little one.

Hi guys,

Kari and Mapia- I completley know how you feel about seeing pregnant women and families with kids. I get a little sad too when I see them sometimes too especially right after a BFN, and I just wish I had that. My SIL who is pregnant wants to come and visit us in April and we are already going there in March. Given we will only see her for one day b/c they are going to be in Italy when we get there and arrive the day before we leave. But it's hard enough already for me I just can't handle the stress of having the house perfect and preparing food and having to wait on people right now especially... I hate to admit outloud.... besides the fact that she's pregnant she is just kind of a selfish person and likes to be waited on hand and foot when she comes. It's enough to have to deal with on the way she is on normal basis w/o IF, but now I just can't handle them coming for a week. DH agreed it may be too much (thank god) as by then we will likely be doing IVF. I hate all this though. I hate to have to tell them not to come but I just don't see any other way right now. I just hope she can understands, I need to be selfis this time...but that is asking a lot for people who don't have a clue what it's like to go through this.

Anna Leigh_ I hope you had a great time in Gattilenburg!! Thanks so much for the e-mail. It was tough but not the worst I have been more disappointed with other cycles this one I kind of expected. Finally I am feeling crampy with the beginning of AF so she should be here at any moment.

Anyway, I hope you guys are all well.

Oh I almost forgot. Kari- that story about you and your dad I think that's great that you talked. I am sorry to hear about your mother that must be very hard for you at times. I know you said you have an adopted mother and I am so happy you had a mother figure to grow up with. I hope what your dad told you gave you some comfort. I did not know what my IF issues were until more than a year after we started ( I don't know how long you have been seeing an RE) but you may get some answers just keep trucking!!! I hope if it is something.... that it's perfectly resolvable. :)

kathy

Kathy

I am glad that you saw my post. I was afraid you wouldn't b/c there were so many posts after mine. I really have been thinking about you and I thought about you all weekend, hoping that I would come home to you yelling that you had a BFP!!

We had a great time in Gatlinburg. We had about two to three inches of snow in the mountain where our cabin was. DD really enjoyed it!!:) It felt good just to get away.

I am driving myself crazy wondering "am I" or "am I not", you know. My temps looked good and then today there was a dip, 10dpiui. I am kind of hoping that it is implanation dip. Have you ever heard of that? Someone mentioned it to me and I thought I remembered reading it somewhere. Does anyone have any insight?? But, I have to remember that I am 12 days post temp shift b/c my temp shifted 2 days before IUI, so I keep thinking that AF could be on her way today or tomorrow. The longest luteal phase I have ever had, based on temps, was 13 days. I know though that temps aren't that realiable, so I keep just telling myself to stay peaceful b/c God already knows what is going to happen this month and He will get me through. You guys will help me as well, if I have another heartbreak this month. It's just that DH is so hopeful this month and I don't want to let him down. I know you all understand.

Sorry, I started rambling.:)

Anna Leigh

Hi Anna,

I'm so glad you guys had a good time and that there was snow!! COOL! Thanks so much for thinking of me. I am so sick of having to do IUI :rolleyes: I just feel that they don't work for me and I need something else. But AF really did just came full force so I will be getting started again. Hopefully I will respond better this time. I never heard about implanation dip...sorry not sure of that happens or not :confused:

When do you test?? Are you going for BETA??? I know that the last week is the hardest. Like you said it's in god hands so hopefully he put you on the BFP list this month :) and your DH will be so happy. He must be relieved that they did not find he had any issues so that is good :)

Good luck!!! Keep me posted!!!

Hey girls How are u all? Anna Leigh looks like u had a great weekend.Boy how much I would love to go away for the weekend with DH.Just up in the mountains somewhere where there is snow and just not leave the cabin all weekend.That would be so great.Wishful thinking.

Do u guys want to hear the sweetest thing I had to share this with someone.I was talking to my little godson earlier from our cams ok mind u he is 3.Do u know what he said to me "godmom u look so pretty" my BF and I laughed so hard I asked her if she put him up to it she said no I swear.So I said to him u look like ur godmom thats why u are so handsom hahaha.He just giggled.I just wanted to reach through that screen and hug him so hard and kiss him all over his little face.He is so funny I swear.Ok sorry just had to share that thanks for listening once again.

Kathy glad the witch showed up.Now u can get started and only be a few days behind me.

Anna Leigh dont beat urself up trying to figure out if u are pregnant I know how hard it is.Just try and keep busy I know how we take every little thing as a sign during the 2ww.Just pray hard and hopefully god will send u ur little angel soon.I will be praying for u and a BFP.We are here to get u through that 2ww.So keep strong and keep busy.

Mapia

Kathy trust me when he starts talking u will just die.Being a godparent is a great thing u will soon see.We call godmom Nouna and goddad Nouno so of course thats how he refers to me.But lately he will say my name instead he will say Maria and I am like no its Nouna.He just laughs.Oh Kathy I am so happy u will be godparents soon.Its is the most wonderful feeling ever.Did he boost my ego today or what really made my god my little sweetie.He has the other half of my heart DH has half and he has the other.That is so cute what ur sister did.Doesnt it make u feel so good?It makes me feel great.Oh did I tell u I might baptise the baby she will have in a few months.I told u she was pregnant with 2nd one.She said she really doesnt know who to let baptise cause u have to have a good relationship with godparents for the childs sake.So I told her I will be more then willing to baptise this one as well.She said are u serious I didnt want to impose I said ur not if u dont want anyone else I will do it.So we might we will see.

Mapia

That would be great to baptize another child!! I am very happy to be an official god parent very soon. My newphew looks so much like my sister and me it's just so funny!!! poor him he has my BIG feet though. Thank god he's a boy!!!

Mapia... thanks for your kind words. You always make me feel more at ease.:)

Thanks
Anna Leigh

Well they say godchildren do take some things from godparents.Mine has my big eyes and he is a lefty like me:) .Isent that weird my BF was like I cant believe how much he is like u.I said if I were the godfather there might be a question as to who the father really is.......lol.We joke about that all the time.

U know I was thinking we all must have a picture of eachother in our heads.I would love to hear how we all picture eachother.I know its a little off topic but I think it would be funny.Just a thought.


Anna Leigh glad to be of some help even though sometimes I feel so helpless.I love to make others feel good it makes me happy just to know I put a smile on someones face for a minute.

Mapia

Mapia- your too funny!!! Glad there is not a question as to the father of your godson b/c if your are the "father" in question I would have to be very worried about you and the picture I would have in my mind of you would be Freaky!! LOL!!! Anyway that's funny that you say that. I never really thought about it what everyone looked like but your easy...I have this picture of you like old co-worker Andonia who was greek. I guess I have an island kind of look..olive skin and curly hair. My godson also has our hair & eybrows!! HEEhEE!! I love that!!! He doesn't look anything like my BIL!!! I am hoping that if we have a boy some day that he looks just like my handsome DH!!! He the tall, dark and handsome type!! :) If we have a girl I would like her to have my hair and color skin (but DH and I are almost the same olive complexion) and I wouldn't mind if she has my figure but not my big feet!!!! I think I was supposed to be 5"11 with these sasquatch feet I have!! Unfortunately I'm only 5'7. I already had bigger feet than my mother at age 12!!! Got dear old dad's paddle feet! LOL!!!

Thats funny Kathy I pictures u almost like that dark features exotic look.I pictured u a little shorter.Dont know why.Maybe cause I am short.Well I am 5'4 with shoes on not skinny and not fat.I have curly hair brown eyes I would say my skin is more white then olive but I get a mean tan considering I am white.I said hair is brown but I have it dyed red awesome color.....lol.Not bright red.Dh is tall we have same skin tone he is like 6'0.Very handsome just wish he could have his own child.

Kathy I am sure u will have beautiful babies.I love the exotic look.Being greek and all lots of greeks are dark featured.I just wish I was a little darker toned but its ok cause like I said I get close to black in the summers.Wish I had my moms eyes she has blue none of us got her eyes.We all took after my dad no one got anything from my mom.She was beautiful in her younger years long brown hair blue eyes skinny and is about 5'6.We took after my dad he is short especially me I dident leave anything of his.My brothers are good looking especially my younger one he has that true greek look dark hair thick very hairy nice body he got all the looks I swear.Well we all have real thick hair.So u have a coworker who is greek thats funny.

Ok I am going to say I picture Holly as blond and blue eyed.Dont know why maybe cause I had a schoolmate back when I was in school and her name was Holly blond and blue eyes.

Mapia

Mapia,

Your so funny, I don't know if I would call myself exotic that's for the super models and I am far from one LOL!!! Anyway, that is how I pictured you. Greek guys are really handsome so I am sure your DH and brothers are too. My DH is 6'3 and plays rugby but the best part of him is that he is the greates man I have ever met!!!

We all look like my dad too. My mom was, is also really pretty. In fact one of my cousins on my mom's side was Ms. Dominican Republic in 1981 and she was in Miss Universe!!! She didn't win Miss universe but it was so cool to see her on national television!!! My whole family on both sides is tall (except maternal grandma) so we got lucky there. My brother is 6'4 and my sister is 5'9 so I am actually the short one compared to them!! I agree about Holly I picture her the same as you. :)

Boy did we get off on a rampage!

You Girls are so funny! I often try to imagine what you all look like too -- and what your ages are ... i was wrong!!! LOL!!!!

-Dana.

WOW!! You girls were right on...I'm sorry I don't have time to write a long thread, I'm running out of the house right now. Just wanted to say...I am blonde with blue eyes, so you girls must be psychic!! I will write again when I get back in.

Take care,

Holly

Hahaha I guessed it Holly I knew it with a name like Holly you had to be blond and blue eyed.Damn I am good.lol.

Kathy hope ur doggy is ok I know how u feel I have my little puppy I call her she is 16.I know she doesnt have long to live but she is fine still goes up and down the stairs the past few days she has been limping though I think its the cold weather I just give her some tylenol.But she seems so moppy these days and I hate to see her like that.The good thing she still eats normally and still begs when we are eating so on that end she cant be in to much pain.Let us know how ur doggy is.

Mapia

Forgive me, I'm still on the looks thing. I just can't believe you guys guessed it for me. I have often wondered what everyone looks like, and I was close for both of you (Kathy & Mapia), but you both gave information about your heritage, so that gave me something to work with. You guys had nothing to go on for me and still guessed right, so I'm really thinking you might be psychic. Please tell me, when will I get my BFP?! :jester:

Psychic??? Help me out over here...all I need are the winning lottery numbers, date of my own personal BFP, and the meaning of life. :) I wouldn't mind knowing when dear AF was gonna rear her head so I can get started again also. Throw me a bone! :D

Just thought I would check in as I took a break from writing my dissertation. YUCK!!! I needed a few laughs! :dizzy:

Mapia- just a side note, and TOTALLY off the topic. If you are using acetaminophen in your dog, it can cause serious liver problems. I was a vet tech for 7 years through college and grad school. Tylenol has no anti-inflamatory characteristics, only serves as a pain killer. Baby aspirin would be safer- can also reduce inflammation. Just wanted to let you know. ;) My pup is 11 and gets arthritis during the winter (though in South Texas- our winters only hover around 40 degrees) and I was told by my vet to use baby aspirin. My 2 cents~ :)

Laurie

Mapia and Kathy... you ladies are too much!! I had to post here b/c I have often wondered about what everyone looks like. I guessed the exact same for Holly. She just sounds like she would have blond hair and blue eyes.:) I guessed that you guys look sort of like you explained, but, like Holly, I took clues from you talking about your heritage.

I want to know... how do you girls picture me?? I would like to see if you really are psychic like Holly thinks?? LOL!!!

I am glad to see that we can get off topic for a little while. I think it is good for our minds!:)

Anna leigh

Hi Girls!!!

Holly we were right on the money with you!!! ha ha!! It's true I think your name for some reason just reminds me of some-one with blue eyes and blonde hair don't know why maybe we are psychic. I will meditate and get back to you on when you will have a BFP!! LOL!!! Army wife our teacher among the trenches of our rapidly decaying youths. How are ya!!! Let's see I think your average height with brownish hair and light eyes maybe hazel or light brown. How'd I do??? Anna Leigh- Hmm for some reason I am having trouble reading my psychic vibes about you. I see you as petite in nature with brown hair maybe blue eyes but light blue. Well at this point you may all realize that I have no psychic powers or maybe you will verify that I do!!! it has been fun talking about other things though. :) Please verify if I am pscyhic and I will start a psychic hotline for IF users only!! LOL!

kathy

Anna Leigh I totally agree getting mind of IF does good thats why I try to get us going with something else.Well Anna Leigh lets see I dont know anything about ur heritage so I cant guess u with Holly it was the name that just gave it away cause I know nothing about Hollys heritage either.So with u it will be hard.I will guess u are brown haired and brown eyed.Just taking a guess maybe medium height.I dont know maybe u will help me out here.

Laurie thank you so much for advice for my doggie,I just see her limping these days and I feel so bad for her.I will try baby asprin.Our vet is so not helpful all they want is to take our money and just give her medicine but the medicine is to rough on her she just throws up.So thank u so much for the advice.Now lets see the winning lottery #'s humm that is hard.Wish I could help u.As far as when we will get BFP's I think we all will real soon.

Kathy hope ur doggie is ok.Let us know.

Mapia

Kathy~

If you were being psychic on my side, yep, I have "dish water blonde" hair and green eyes. I am 5' 5" and 1/2, so on the short side. You did pretty good....got those winning lottery numbers?

Ya'll have a good night...gotta get some rest to "warp those young minds" tomorrow! :)

Keep us updated on you Kathy!

Laurie

Man I'm good!!! Alright Laurie!!! Hasta manana!!!

Thanks Mapia my doggie has a cold and they put her on anitbiotics. I think she will be ok though. Porr little thing she's a Fla. dog she's not use to this cold weather we've been having. She actually grew thick fur under her paws it's so funny!! I hope your doggie feels better wow 16 years old that is so awesome!!

Glad to hear ur doggie is ok.Yeah 16 my little baby she is totally part of this family.I know she doesnt have long to live and it makes me tear thinking she might not be here next month or next year.But she holds up real good so maybe she will be around for a little while longer.I just couldent bare to lose her right now going through this.I mean I know she cant live forever but as long as we can keep her around would be good.

Kari where are u girl??????Hope u are ok.I dident guess what u look like.I think u are blond and blue eyed as well.Have to read the thread if u havent yet u will know what I am talking about.

Mapia

I was just getting caught up on the days' posts - that's so funny Mapia, that you brought up what everyone looks like... I totally have mental pics and I think I was pretty close for you and Kathy except what's funny is I pictured you as being on the tall side and Kathy much shorter than 5'7"! I kind of got the impression we are all about the same age - I'm 30 and I think I remember you and Kathy saying you guys were 32. And Holly, I totally pictured as blond and blue eyes... I only have known one Holly before and she was also blond. Guess that's where I got that from. Now I thought Laurie had dark brown hair, so I was def off on that one!

Anna Leigh, I pictured you also as tall, thin and blond so completely different from what the other ladies have said... I'm very interested to hear the verdict! And if anyone declares they have the BFP pyschic powers, I want in on that prediction!

You know even though it doesn't have anything to do with our appearances, I found it very interesting that there's a handful of us with dogs who are bit on the old side that we love very, very much. My fluffy boy is almost 10, and considering he's a bit of a bigger dog - half black lab and half chow - that's getting pretty old. I've had him since he was 8weeks, so he is my baby. He waits outside my bathroom door each morning... I snuggle on the floor with him while I wait for my monthly HPT to register. Usually, when I get the BFN, I cry and give him a big hug and tell him that it's ok cause I got him :) Kathy I hope your dog feels better soon. I know how heartbreaking it can be to see them not feel well and them not be able to tell you what hurts.

BTW - Anna Leigh, I really hope that temp dip has something to do with implantation. I don't know anything about temping - that's the one thing I really haven't done or gotten into while TTC. I mean don't get me wrong cause I tried, but I'm not a morning person AT ALL so it didn't work for me. I would fall back asleep with thermometer in my mouth! Anyway, it sounds like you haven't had any real AF signs, and it sounds like this is on the long side for you as far as your luteal phase goes. I'll be praying for you!!!:angel:

Oh Mapia - I must have been writing away when you sent your last post!!! So I think I had you fooled on my appearance - I have green eyes and long dark brown hair (curly - not the good kind of curly either cause it's more wavy and frizzy, so I force it straight every day!).

As for your pup - wow - 16 years, that's impressive. That alone tells me that your dog has been very loved and well taken care of. It warms my heart. If I quit my job, which I see happening soon, I will devote a lot of my free time to dog rescues. They have always been my soft spot. :angel:

Wow Kari u had me fooled yes green eyes brown hair sounds like u are on the exotic side.Dont know much about ur heritage so I was just guessing I knew a Kari a very long time ago and she was blond and blue eyed thats why I guessed that.

Yeah my pup has been loved and well taken care of.She has always been a kind and gentle dog.Very sweet never even growled at anyone just sweet as can be.I love hugging her to when I feel sad cause she knows I am sad so she will lick me but so gently like she wants me to know how much she loves me and cares for me.So sounds like u made a decision about quitting ur job.Sounds like u will be doing a great thing rescuing dogs.Takes a great person to devote their time in doing that.Thats why u will make a great mom some day.

Mapia

Thanks Mapia - it sounds good to hear someone else say that I'll make a great mom some day. I tell myself that all the time when I need to self-motivate to keep trying. I like hearing it better when it comes from someone else... it makes it more real - so thanks for making my night :angel:

As for my heritage, I'm just like my dog... a good old fashion mutt! (not exactly exotic-sounding, huh?!) So much blending I don't really know what I am! The only thing that anyone ever talks about is that I have a decent amount of Amer Indian in me and that's why I get soooo dark when I'm in the sun. And as for the jobby job, I've been saying I'm gonna quit for like 8 months. I don't know if I'll ever have the courage to do it :rolleyes:

U are to funny a mutt.My doggie is a mutt to.I think they are the best dogs.Glad I could make ur night.Plus I truely feel u will make a great mom.I think most of us going through IF will make great moms teaches us not to take our kids for granted.I read an article where they did a study and it was proven couples that went through IF were better parents.Maybe this was gods way of helping us become great parents who knows.

Let me tell u today was a good day for me.Why u ask cause today I talked to my 3 yr old godson on our cams and u know what he said to me?He said godmom u are pretty.That took me and gf by suprise I said did u put him up to this she said no I swear.I was in such a good mood all day cause he said that to me.Dh tells me it all the time but hearing it from a 3 year old was just crazy.I was on cloud nine all day my little baby made my day.I just wanted to reach through my screen and kiss his little face.God I miss him.The next best thing to being a parent is being a godparent.I am so blessed.


Mapia

OMG, Mapia - I read that about your godson earlier and I totally meant to tell you how incredibly sweet I think that is! What an angel :angel: . And I know that his mom didn't put him up to it... kids are just intuitive and I think he just spoke the truth and said exactly what he was feeling when he said that you were pretty. I bet it made your day, I know it would have put me on cloud 9 too!!! You deserved to have your spirits lifted and I think it's awesome that a darling 3 yr old thousands of miles away was able to do that for you!

Yeah he is my sweet little boy.I know his mom dident put him up to it cause she looked just as suprised as I did when he said it.We laughed so much.Anyway hope u figure out what u will do with ur job I know its hard to quit a job.I am sure u and DH will make the right choice.Being on the road all the time is stressful.So I am sure being home more will be great for all of u.

Mapia

Mapia, I'm so glad you have that little boy in your life. I hope you get back to see him and your good friend very, very soon.

Thanks Kari I wish the same cause I feel like part of my heart is empty without him and gf.Well u have a good night hun.

Mapia

Ok night owels!! Are you both sleeping in today??? I missed the whole cont if the doggie talk and I want to join in. My doggie is 15lb and she's a schipperke (all black and has a face like a pomeranian). I am ashamed to admit she's not a a mutt. I was at the pet store looking for salt water fish (back when I was obessed with my salt water fish tank!) and this lady tricked me into holding my future dog!! She was so cute I had to take her home. I was just out of college and had no cash so I actually took out a loan to buy her!! Is that crazy or what!! I love her so much though. She does not replace my need to have a child but she always knows when i am down and sticks by me. If I cry she will lick my tears. I just love her :) Mapia- like you I would take it so hard if something happen to her now. With everything else it would be the worst!!

See when u go to bed early u miss things.I am a late sleeper.I normally go to bed around 2 cause I can get up at 10.But actually last night I went to bed at 1 cause needed to wake up at 9:30 this morning.I have my appt with my shrink today at 11.But dear old hubby dident let me sleep till 2:p and now I am a little tired.I dont know how he does it he gets up at 5 for work and goes to bed at 1 or so everyday.I could never do that.I need my sleep.

That is a real cute story about ur doggie.Taking out a loan that is crazy.I got my doggie from a family friend.I was a junior in HS went to my GF house and her dad had a few puppies he said u want one I said my mom will kill me.My mom really dident want a dog.Not that she doesnt like them just that she had one when she was young and parents got rid of it and she thought the dog ran away and she was devastated so she dident want that to happen to us.She dident want something to happen to the dog and we get upset not that she would get rid of it.So my gf dad said I will talk to ur parents they were friends as well.So I took my little baby home.At first my mom was like no u will not keep her then I said yes I am.So anyway as u see I won that fight.But she is so part of our lives that if anything happens to her my mom would get real upset as well.

Mapia

hey ladies just wanted to join in.. i swore i posted on this thread yesterday about how we shiuld all have little pictures next to our name, it would be more personal.. not that it matters what we look like, but it would make us feel even closer i think.,. anyway... i dont know where that post went!! well im gonna tell you al what i look like anyway, lol! :) im 5 foot exactly.. avg weight (well i use to be avg, now im a lil over that, lol HORMONES grrrr) and my dh is 6'3.. so there is a BIG height difference... i have dark brown hair naturally and very dark eyes, but now my hair is blonde, lol.. i dye it often.. im always looking for change.. and i dont have a doggy yet, me and dh keep talking about it, but for now we have ablack cat, that my my bil;s but they got a dog from the shekter that didnt get alonmg with their cat, so now he is ours, he found a place in our hearts.. he si the friendliest darn kitty ever!! he likes having his bely rubbed and to sleep on you, and his face has to touch your face when he is sitting on you.. we love him!! anyway this is a pretty funny thread, oh and abotu age im 25 and dh 29...

Aimee u are a young one.I thought u were older cause of the way u give people advice u just sounded older.You must be very mature and I am sure going through this makes u grow up real fast.Wow I thought I was short and dh was tall.But u beat me there.Now about the cat I have heard a cat is not good to have around a pregnant women and infant.There is something about the scent they give off and I hear its not good.I know u must love that cat but u should ask the doctor he maybe can help.I am not 100% sure but I heard it a long time ago.Just some FYI.Thanks for letting us know what u look like.It is nicer to have some sort of picture of the other person.

Mapia

Aimee, I don't know why, but I always pictured you as a little short (Don't get offended, I'm only 5' 3", so not much taller than you ;) ). I thought you might have light hair too, do I get credit even though it's dyed? LOL...We are close in age too. Both of us (my BF and I) are 27.

We are happy dog owners too. Our baby Shorty is 4 years old, and she is definitely part of our family. At 65 lbs, it's a little tough that she is such a lap dog. She will literally wait for me to get comfy on the couch and then plop her big rear right on top of me. :jester: I don't mind one bit though, it just means she would rather be close to me than anywhere else, and that is fine with me! She is going to be so jealous when we have a baby...I will have to remember that she will still need love and attention no matter how much energy the baby takes. After all, she's been there for us...

Holly

Hi ladies. I have loved reading about what everyone looks like. I have wondered so much. I had a lot of reading to do, though. You ladies have done a lot of posting!!:)

Ok... so here's the verdict. I don't think any of you got really close to how I actually look. I think maybe Kari did, b/c she thinks I am tall. I am 5'7, which I used to consider tall until all my friends grew taller than me. It is tall though, I guess. I have brown hair and blueish green eyes. They look blue sometimes and sometimes green. Dh has olive skin and dark hair and brown eyes. DD took after him. Most people say that it looks like he just spit her out of his mouth and that I had nothing to do with it. Sounds like most of our hubbies look alike, except mine is the only shorter one, he is only 5'10.

Aymie, I did not picture you as short, but we are close in age. I am 26 and DH is 28, so we are some of the younger ones as well.

Oh, Kari, about the temp. dip,I don't know if it was... but I hope it was implanatation as well. My temp was up again this morning, as opposed to yesterday morning, 11dpiui, so I am hopeful, but I am scared, as well. I am actually freaking out.

Have a good day ladies.:)

Anna Leigh

Ok Anna Leigh we were off about ur looks.But now we all have an idea what we look like.Well girls I am off I will be back on after 1 dont say to much with me gone.....lol.Have a wonderful day.

Mapia

Hi guys!

Aimee, I pictured you with light hair too so like Holly I hope even though it's dyed that it counts, I was way off on your height I pictured you tall like 5'8 maybe b/c your DH is so tall like mine!!! :) Anna Leigh I was completly off on you!! We are the same height. I like that height though b/c there's a 7 in it and that's my luck # :) You and Aimee are the young-ins around here. Can you take some of my years off me and say make me 30 I'll give you each one of my years :) I am two years older than my Dh (yeah I know cradle robber, I was talking before he could even poopie on his own LOL!) but I always say we switched ages so I am really "30" and he is the one "32"!!!!! That sounds much better!!! :)

kathy

im 5'1 (FI is 5'9) I have red hair and hzel-ish brown eyes. Im pretty little all around (wear a size 4.5 - 5 shoe)

my age : 29 ; FI's age: 28 (will be 29 in june and constantly reminds me how im the older woman by 5 months)

Hi Aymie!! I'm jealous!! Your soo lucky you have tiny feet. My feet are so big they used to tease me at school and call me big foot!! :( I don't care though at the 10 reunion I was like ha! Look all you guys I didn't even recognized most of them!!! So I rather have big feet than to have looked like an old lady at my 10 year reunion!!! :)

funny you say that... i HATE my small feet. I mean theyre cute and all but try finding shoes! It is so difficult... I found a store in manhattan by my apartment that only sells small designer shoes but its so expensive. My hands and wrists are really tiny too.

we make fun of my sister because shes 4'10 and has a size 6 which is very big for her height. When she was little my older sister and i would tell her she was going to have to join the circus because that was the only type of shoes that would fit her. HAHAHAH!!!!

youngest siblings really get tortured! i agree with you though... id take looking good and having big feet than looking old anyday!

Aymie... you sound so cute. I have always wanted to be little bitty all over. Kathy... don't worry, I have big feet too, wear an 8 and a half.:)

Anna Leigh

I wear a size 9 and I am only 5'3" :eek: I've always hated my big feet too. My BF is only 5'10" so our kids are probably gonna be really short. I really hope they don't get my big feet! :)

Oh my friends I am a size 10!!! Talk about not finding cute shoes in you size. No size 10 shoe is cute with these huge paddles I have as feet. One things for sure.... I won't ever drown in the middle of the ocean with these babies. I can paddle my way to shore no problem. :) LOL!!! Holly you little thing with big feet like me huh!! :) Join my big feet club!!! We can start a paddling club ha ha!! I hope you don't mind my teasing I like ot laugh at myself!!
They say your feet grow when pregnant and don't go back. That's all I need is to be a size 11!!! OMG!!! I will have to special order!!! Geeze!! I will do it though at this point I will be a size 12 if I have to. But god please be kind and don't make me THAT big!!!

OMG - Kathy, you're going to get me in trouble making me burst out laughing like that when I'm supposed to be working! :nono: I am picturing you floating in the midddle of the ocean with these HUGE feet sticking way up in the air...I didn't know your feet grew when you got pg! :eek: We are in for it! I wonder how my balance would be if I chopped off my toes? Probably not worth it...I would still look pretty funny with boats of feet and no toes at the end...:rolleyes:

Ya'll are too funny. We don't have kiddo's here in my classes today, they are testing, so I had a few minutes.

I was reading a post on cats a few pages ago. I wanted to touch on that subject- just in case people are thinking of throwing out their cats. :) Cats are known to carry toxoplasmosis. They get it from running outside, hunting, eating mice etc. As long as either you have your cat tested and then keep him inside or have DH clean the litter box, then you will be ok. In addition, toxoplasmosis is pretty rare. I just tell my DH he has litter box duty if I EVER get that BFP!

I am both a cat and dog person. My dog, an australian cattle dog, is a 95 model. She just turned 11 in December. Got her at the vet clinic I worked at when her old owners wanted to "put a bullet in her head" because she couldn't have puppies. I sympathized, for obvious reasons, and took her. I had her spayed, and she has been the BEST dog ever!! I think she knows she was inches from meeting her maker! :D

Have a great day ladies~!

Laurie

Hello girls I am back.So I see u guys are carrying on about feet and so on.To funny I have a size 6 foot and very cute feet DH loves them.So I cant say I know how u all feel cause I always find cute shoes in my size.Also a lot of the time I get them on sale cause they cant get rid of size 6.Sometimes I buy kids tennis shoes and they are also cheaper.Love my little feet.They are to cute.

Mapia

hey mapia, i just wanetd to comment about the cat, you are not suppose to clean the litter box because of the fumes if you get pregnant (thats dhs job anyway, lol) and cats can carry diseases from being outside, etc.. i have an inside cat so i think im pretty safe :) noche can stay!!! and yes i am young got married at 22, been with dh since i was 17... started tring at 21 a few months before the wedding figured i wouldnt show anyway, and got sick of the pill... 4 years later and still no baby.. after 2 IVFS i think you start to look at things in life differently.. some stuff that my friends are into jsut dotn seem all that important to me anymore.. i know what i know now, and have to deal with it.. i do work, and i never plan on completely staying home (atleast the first year) but i was never completely career oriented.. i always wanted children young.. my re told me why wait, you want children now, and the younger the better chances, but now after 2 failed ivfs he isnt "as positive" but he tries.. anyway, im all emotional and talk a lot when i am due to lupron.. grrr.. 11 days now on that evil hormone, lol.. oh and about the size of feel.. i wear a 7 which is avg, but i thnik they are big for my body bc im only 5ft.. lol.. so i hpe they dont get bigger.. i never heard they get bigger when your pregnant, i heard they can swell and that your hair grows really fast fromt eh hormone fluctuations.. i can use that, im trying to grow mine out, i love it shorter and flippy, but i love it long and layered too.. i cant stand it to look the same for too long, i guess thats why i change the color all the time too.. lol :) change can nmake us all feel good, a nice haircut, highlight, or getting our nails good, somethnig for us.. we all deserve it!! or a nice new pair of shoes... well i think i chatted enough lol, its my day off so i gotta go get some errands done!! <3 aimee

Kathy I just saw where u said u are older then DH to funny I swear we have so much in common I am 32 and DH is 30.Yeah we like them young so what.That is just to funny.My DH never guessed my age when we met I dont look my age at all.I still get carded even when I go buy him cigerettes I was like damn now I know I look older then 18.One lady thought my id was fake she dident believe I was 32.I was like women please I wish it were fake.To funny.

Aimee sorry I never suggested u get rid of ur cat.I just heard that a while ago and I dident know how true it is.Wow u do have a big foot for ur height.I am sorry to hear u are going through all this I know it is hard.But u have to stay positive.

Mapia

kathy you crack me up! and anna leigh... yeah im a little bitty of a thing. i got laughed at when doing my gown fitting saturday because they have to put double padding in my dress :-(

oh and i forgot to say I have the cutest little dog. Hes a maltese named chubby and he will be the ringbearer at my wedding. Hes such a cutie patootie!

as for growing feet... ive heard that and always pray it happens for me when iim pregnant!!!

There you are Mapia!! Oh so rub it in why don't ya!! Your feet are small AND cute!! ;) Well mine may be big but there mine :p and DH thinks their beautiful (why:rolleyes: ..I have no idea!) you knwo I'm just kidding with you Mapia I don't mind that your feet are probably cuter than mine.

Holly- there is nothing like a good laugh at work. You had me bust'n out laughing over here to :D If you get fired we will just have to get you a BFP to keep you busy!! Now back to our big feet. Yes they are big but I wouldn't say their ugly :) Now my sister's THOSE are big and ugly:eek: haha!! We always tease her b/c she's got funky looking toe nails. but I must add that having big feet has it uses..since my toes are long I can pick things up from the floor w/o having to use my hands or bend!! Yes it's like having extra fingers!! I am sure I can learn to play piano with them if I made an effort or even paint. Hey I saw a guy do that on TV once. Freaky :eek: Now if my children have my big feet and with my father over powering genes it is very likely well I will just teach them these little things that make my big foot an asset. Swimming and picking things up from the floor. I can also pinch some-one with them if you make me really mad :D Ok I am grossing myself out now. I won't talk anymore about my paddles :) It's been fun though :cool:

Kathy u cruel sister making fun of ur sister like that.I wasent better used to tell little brother when we were little that he was born naked and the doctor saw his private parts and me and older brother were born with a diaper on to funny he would go crying to my mom and we would laugh our butts off.We were pretty bad to little brother but thats cause my mom let him get away with anything so we would torcher him.I took no offense to what u said Kathy about ur feet being prettier I dont doubt it and no need to apoligze I can take a joke cause I like to joke.I thought u figured that out about me.

So u will never believe I emailed this IVF clinic in greece and I got an email back from an re there very long email.I couldent believe it.An re took the time to email me and dident get paid to.He doesnt understand why I am not pregnant.From what I have told him about my health and all my results he doesnt understand why I am not pregnant.He said maybe the sperm is not good quality I said it cant be it cause they screen it here.I dont know what to say.Gave me prices on what it would cost if i go there.Pretty cheap compared to here.Well insurance is paying for mine now but I only have 2 more paid cycles then I would have to pay out of pocket here.Anyway I just had to share that I just couldent believe he emailed me.Made me feel good.

Mapia

Wow Mapia! That sounds great. I hope you get a BFP before then but if you don't and run out of coverage it may be they way you get a BFP and go back to the home that you love. Besides the donor will be greek and you will likely find more donor's that look like DH!!! It seems like Re's in other countries have a different more warm approach but I think that's b/c they don't have to deal with the insurance creeps we have over here.

Wow... I've been off for a little while and boy did I miss a lot! You guys are making me laugh so hard I am crying here :jester: I'd say I was picturing about half of you the right way and was totally off on the other half. Here's what I look like: 5'2, average wieght, brown hair, green/brown eyes (they change), & I'm 30. DH is 6'2, with dark hair, and is 32. So what did all you think I looked liked? Were you close?

You were all cracking me up on the shoe thing. I wear a size 7 which I think is average but Kathy I know someone who has you beat. My best friend is a size 12! We've been friends since we were 12 years old and I think she was even that size then, she has to buy shoes special order online. She's pregnant now too which does make it worse when your feet swell :eek:

I also have black cat named Zoe. She is adorable and loves to snuggle. She's indoor so it's not a problem but still DH has been changing the litter box for about 2 years now because of the pregnancy thing. Poor guy :jester: I love dogs too but am allergic so we can't have one.

Thanks for the laughs everyone. I need that today:p

Lori

Yeah Kathy the thing with RE's over there they really care about u and are sincere and not only to out to take all ur money.Doctors are great there no doubt in my mind.I loved my obgyn in greece.Man he was crazy he told my dh when we went to him to make sure I was ovulationAlso I would like to find a greek donor couldent find one here but its ok we found one that looks a little like DH.Dh is light compared to most greeks not pale just light dark.But we greeks get a mean tan......lol.We might be light in the winter but when summer comes and we start going to the beach every weekend boy I tell u.What am I doing here inlaws have a nice beach house so all summer we were there and only 30 mins from the city we live in its great.So yeah hopefully we do get BFP before that but if not then at least I have a plan now.

Mapia

Hi Lori!! Glad we can give you some laughs today. It has been a fun thread to help us get a little boost from all these BFN's we've had on the board lately. Well I think I pictured just as you described but taller :) My eyes are light brown and turn green too!!! So does do my Dh's. So either way our babies will probably have our eye color. :) How I wish I could now what my angel babies look like. One day I will know though :)

Mapia- that beach house sounds so awesome!!!! My IL's (MIL and FIL) live 6 months here (Florida) and 6 months in Argentina they have an apartment in Miami across the street from the beach!! We are going to stay there when we go for my godson's baptism. YIPEE!!! IL's are in Argentina right now and it sucks we won't see them while we are there. But they are going to come to visit us soon. I don't mind when they come b/c they went through IF too and they understand more than anyone else in our family what we are going through. Even more that my mother.

kathy

Kathy that sounds great oh how I wish I had a place to go to and not pay that crazy hotel price.Anyway if we dident have all these IF bills then I am sure we could get away.But what can u do.Lucky il's they are in Argentina.That is nice that il's went through IF and can relate and support u.My parents and Il's try to support us but cant understand us completly.But hey thats ok at least they are loving and supportive.

Mapia

Yeah money get's tight with IF and it sucks. Since I am working DH and I are able to do a little more. We plan to go somewhere this weekend not sure where though. Thinking about going to Atlanta since it's only 3 hours from us. Dh also said maybe the gulf coast (beach oh yeah!) but that's a 5 hour drive and not sure if I want to do that. I can't wait to go to Fla!! I am so pale for me right now. I, like you will get really tan in the summer so I am looking forward to not looking like a ghost in March!!! Have to look my best for my little godson's baptism!! :) So is your next IUI scheduled yet?? Are you using the same donor??

kathy

Yes we are using the same donor at least we know his sperm can fertilize my egg.;) .I am so jeleous stop telling me u are going away.Cause when I am on some island in greece I will be emailing u telling u how beautiful it is here....I will be toasting in ur honor.......lol.Can u take dh and I with u this weekend we promise to be very good.......lol.

Mapia

Ofcourse!!! But only if you take me to the Greek isles!! DH just did really good on the GRE for grad school, he already started but had not taken the GRE so he was so happy he wanted to celebrate by going away. He took this last BFN pretty hard. I was too upset to talk to you guys about it before but I came home Friday to him talking to his dad and I can see he was crying. It hurt me so much to see him that way. This is starting to take a toll on him too so I think getting away together will be nice. With work, school and studying we have not had any time to spend together. So I am looking forward to do something nice with my sweetie :)

P.S. I am about to leave work and I am wiped out!! I think I'll take a nap when I get home since DH is in school tonight...

Yeah that is nice Kathy my dh tried to act tough for me with the chemical pregnancy but finally admitted that it really hurt him and he is sorry he cant be strong for me he tried but couldent.I knew it killed him he dident have to tell me I know him better then myself.I feel so bad for him my little cutie.I told him I will give him a child not to worry.

Mapia

By the way Kathy I forgot to write this earlier I was in a hurry to leave work.U are more then welcome to come to greece with DH and baby.I will be more then happy to take u where ever u want to go.I truely mean that.We can go visit some old churches and thank the saints and god for our babies.:)
I hope all goes well tomorrow at ur appt.I will be waiting to hear how it went.
My IUI should be Monday and Tuesday or Tuesday and Weds.I go in on Sunday for day 12 u/s and b/w and I will probably trigger that night or Monday night.So I will know on Sunday exactly.

Mapia

Mapia - wow, Greece is starting to sound even better than I ever imagined... not just for the obvious reasons... who knew the doctors there are so awesome and personable! What a great RE you found. So how long were you in Greece before going to MD?

I loved that everyone talked about their pets... Aimee, your kitty sounds so sweet, and Holly I know what you mean about having a big lap dog - we let our 70lb chow/lab on the couch, in the bed, pretty much wherever he wants to go! And Kathy, my SIL has a sckipperke!!! His name is, what else, Skipper! All the pets sound so wonderful - I know they somehow make this struggle to get Preg a bit easier for all of us.

Kathy you can sign me up for the big foot club. I'm either 5'7" or 5'8" depending on my posture :p , and my feet are a size 9. I love when shoes run a little big and I can wear an 8!!! Anna Leigh, I get the impression we look quite a bit alike. Same hair color and eyes (most people say mine look blue but they are def grn), 5'7"... funny. Oh, and Kathy I'm cracking up about the mental pic of you in the ocean flippin your feet to shore!!! I mean that's right up there with imagining Mapia in the family planning section peeing on all the HPT's at the drugstore! Good stuff. :D

Hahahaha Kari isent our board the best to funny.I like that it gets our mind off IF for awhile.

You are all welcome to greece and I really mean that.Well I was born and raised in MD. I left here in 2002 moved to greece met dh a few years later there got married.Came back to see if we could do something here but the only thing we have here is missing greece and our life there.We just talked about it again tonight.Dident u say u grew up here?What area?I grew up in Silver Spring.

Isent that great about the RE in greece trust me he took me by suprise I never thought someone would respond I just emailed the clinic with hopes that a nurse or someone who worked there would answer my question about cost etc.To my suprise RE responded and even wants me to forward our records and dident even ask for money.

Mapia

So Mapia, are you forwarding your records??? That is so awesome they didn't even ask for money! Sign me up seriously... that is just the type of professional that I want to give my money to, ya know? I bet they want to get familiar with your history first, which I think is so ethical. I hope you get BFP with one of these next two cycles so that you don't end up having to use this RE, but if you do, wow, you found a good one.

My DH and I have these awesome friends from Vancouver and they are total world travelers. They spend a minimum of three months each year traveling the world. Last summer they were in France and Italy for 8 weeks, and I'm telling you they take trips like that every year (those Canadian employers need to have a talk with the HR execs at my company about work-life balance :) ). Anyway, my point is that their favorite place of everywhere they've ever traveled is Greece. They talk about it all the time, and I know this is coming from a very reliable source. Besides our Canadian buddies, you will be the first to know when DH and I do decide to go to Greece! And hopefully it will be with tot in tow!!! So it sounds like you really haven't been back in MD that long, huh? like a year? BTW - I was born and raised in Bowie, but went to HS in Laurel... both pretty close to where you are at! My friend has an art studio in SS. I used college as my ticket outta there. Not that I totally didn't like it, I just wanted to live elsewhere. And then I moved to NYC a couple years ago when my DH was dragging his feet on marriage... it was awesome and I really loved the big city. didn't take DH too long to come out there and propose - I should have worked NY in the equation somehow. Missed that one when I had all the leverage I could have needed to do so!!! Now it'll never happen... oh well, AZ is not a bad place to be stuck :)