i am a vegetarian who is trying to loose some fat and building a bit of muscle. i have been recommended protein powder mix supplements. can you please tell me what are the main differences between soya and whey in terms of risks/benefits?
thank you
Lenin
02-16-2007, 05:03 PM
There's almost no difference in the amino acid composition. But of course, anyone who is a VEGAN can eat only the soy protein...and of course, there are some who think the SOYBEAN was created by Beelzebub himself to poison makind:rolleyes: .
The soy tastes a very little more bitter to my taste buds. A couple of the whey products had a disagreeablly grainy testure that was hard to break up even in a shake.
But basically I buy for price and sometimes the bargains are in soy, sometimes whey.
6foot3
02-18-2007, 07:36 AM
Soy Vs Whey a few points on health and not muscle building.......Soy has Phyto-Nutrients to fight cancer and anti aging. On the down side its Phyto-Estrogens may not bode well for us men and also thyroid questions.
Whey is very high in Cysteine which raises Glutathione in the body which is the master antioxidant in our body. On the down side it has Gammaglobulins which some believe could cause Multiple Sclerosis and other auto immune diseases.
ferro
03-03-2007, 09:08 PM
I prefer the whey, personally. I just find it to be a better, more complete source of protein. Soy contains estrogen, and being a man, I try not to overdo that hormone. I do eat my share of soy though, as it does have many benefits.
Of course, like Lenin said, a vegan would not take whey, because it contains dairy.
Isis498
03-07-2007, 10:32 AM
Soy Vs Whey a few points on health and not muscle building.......Soy has Phyto-Nutrients to fight cancer and anti aging. On the down side its Phyto-Estrogens may not bode well for us men and also thyroid questions.
Whey is very high in Cysteine which raises Glutathione in the body which is the master antioxidant in our body. On the down side it has Gammaglobulins which some believe could cause Multiple Sclerosis and other auto immune diseases.
Sorry, but I can find nothing to verify the statement regarding Whey and Gamma Globulins. In fact, nothing to connect the 2 at all. Sounds very odd to me.
It is however connected to Immunoglobulins, however which is a very POSITIVE thing. Perhaps you got the 2 confused.
Whey proteins also have all the essential amino acids and in higher concentrations compared to various vegetable protein sources such as soy, corn, and wheat gluten. It is a complete protein containing all 8 essential amino acids as well as 7 non- essential ones.
Unfortunately soy shakes are processed using hexane and other toxic chemicals to make it usable in order to drink it, which are dangerous. And..the body does not absorb the protein in soy as it would whey.
If you are a body builder, whey would be preferable, but.........if you are a vegetarian, all this would be moot. ;) Although some do eat dairy, and you may or may not.
All in all, it's a choice of taste, too.
6foot3
03-08-2007, 11:11 PM
Sorry, but I can find nothing to verify the statement regarding Whey and Gamma Globulins. In fact, nothing to connect the 2 at all. Sounds very odd to me.
It is however connected to Immunoglobulins, however which is a very POSITIVE thing. Perhaps you got the 2 confused.
No i'm not confused at all as Immunoglobulins and Gammaglobulins are they SAME. These are Antibodies.There is tons of research and info on whey and immuno(gamma)globulins.
Are they Positive as you stated......well medically they are used in only CIDP or MMN as these demyelinating neuropathies are the only thing they help. Secondly they are so dangerous that they can only be administered as an IV drip for about 6 hours in an hospital setting. If given by shot or oral you will go into Anaphylactic Shock.
Yes i use whey and think it is safe and great for bodybuilding and its high Cysteine raises Glutathione better than anything on earth but some people can't handle the Bovine Antibodies (Gammaglobulins) and some research points to possible Histamine release and autoimmune but i admit more research is needed.
Jenteal
03-10-2007, 04:21 PM
I choose "soy" mainly cause that's the only one besides the egg protein powder that I could find that had no cholesterol.
In some of those powders they have enough cholesterol in one serving that is recommendation for the entire day. Since high cholesterol runs in my family I have to watch how much I consume.
I like the vanilla cause I can add strawberries or banana's. I also put in a packet of Stevia (Sugar sub that's very good in fiber) to make it sweeter.
Jenteal