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bpd_bipolar
03-11-2007, 09:54 PM
Well, here I am. I have Biploar and Borderline Personlakity Disorder and my boyfriend has ADHD and Bipolar. I believe you have heard most of this before, but I have a lot of trouble and I would like some opinions on how to work through this problem I am having with trying to get through each and every day of "changing" myself for the better, well at least in his eyes. To me, I am becoming a less mean, sarcastic person and that is a good thing, but for him, I seem to be some one that he wants to mold into (and this will be an eventual process) of a better person for myself (as he says).

I work very hard to please him daily. It is very difficult to keep my emotions inside every day. He does not want me to display them out right. I am not to cry because that would be a sign that I am losing control. I am to be in control and think as he says.

So, to you I pose the questions. How does a Bipolar/BPD person hold everything inside and not explode eventually?????


I hope to hear back.

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goody2shuz
03-11-2007, 10:39 PM
Hi, I am glad that you started another thread because I have wanted to respond to you but your thread seemed more as if you were journaling for your own therapeutic necessity and I am sure that others thought that as well.

I know that you really love this guy and I give you alot of credit wanting to help him and at the same time help yourself.

I think that in reading your last thread, I see alot of controlling going on in this relationship. It is not right of him to tell you that you can never be upset, mad, angry, frustrated or hurt. That is basically telling you that you have to be happy all the time and NOBODY is happy all the time.

That would be like you telling him he can never have a drink or smoke again....that bothers you....right??? Thing is, neither one of you would be loving if you are expecting the person to be the way that you want them to be. You decided to enter into a relationship Knowing that there were problems and that he was a smoker/drinker and him knowing that you had BP and BPD that would involve some sadness and problems controlling emotions at times.

I think that each of you needs to focus upon yourselves and making the changes in yourselves that you each would want to see....not because the other person has to have you that way in order to love you. You need to each be supportive of one another realizing that nobody can change another person except that person themself!! And that loving somebody is not controlling them...it is accepting them good points and bad points and supporting them through the changes that they want to see for themselves.

I am sure that you will admit that your boyfriend has a drinking problem as well as weed problem. Apparently that is not going to change and you must decide if you can live the rest of your time with him having to drink and smoke every weekend and whenever he needs to. You are not going to change that in him....he has to want to change that for himself.

You cannot hold all your feelings inside just to please your boyfriend.....it is like he is asking you not to breathe. You need to have the freedom to express yourself otherwise you are conforming to the person's needs which is so unfair for anybody to ask of another person to do.

I know that you love him and that there is alot for the two of you to deal with. It would be so much easier if he would address his issues and you address yours, and each of you offering the other praise and support along the way.

I hope that this helps out in someway.

((((HUGS))))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
03-12-2007, 12:42 PM
Thank you for your reply. Yes, the other thread was more of a self fish thing and I apologize, but when I get upset or have any type of emotions stuck within I write, that is my therapy. I write to get things out of me so I don't explode.....lol.

Well, some times it works. I have many journals that fill up rather quickly.

I just think that if I keep writing that eventually I can write all my feelings away and then all the things that sit inside will be gone and then I won't be negative and then, well I will somehow magically be oh k.

Guess things will wrok out the way they do,, but see when I got on this site (and please anyone on here take no offense to what I am about to say), but I thought I could use this kind of as an outlet so I didn't do anything silly or stupid to myself to do any harm. This is my outlet. I kind of need it.

People give opinions when they can and I am truly appreciative.

Hopefully in the process others can learn from anything I type from my life as well.

I just don't want something else taken away from me, so I hope that I am allowed to continue writting here. whether it is looked at as I am journaling or however, this is keeping me from harming myself or just going and doing anything that might be regreted later in verbal arguments and such.

Anyhow, my bipolar is so unpredictable at times, typing is all I can do to try to even myself out. It just calms me a bit at times when I get my fingers moving on the keyboard at what seems so quick that they are going by themselves at non sensical rants......

Sorry to those that might not understand my problems. Sorry to those that might not understand my BPD and bipolar and my problems with my ADHD and bipolar boyfriend, but I am trying so hard here to keep it together and I guess I have done it once more and gone off on a tottaly different rant fromw hat a simple statement has been made to me.

I guess I am just sorry..............I know you are trying to help me.

goody2shuz
03-12-2007, 12:54 PM
Hey BP/BPD ~ You needn't apologize, I truly understand how therapeutic writing can be...just ask everybody around here who have to put up with my rather lengthy posts!!:D

So you keep on writing...I was just apologizing for not responding too much knowing that you needed this outlet and totally understanding it's importance to you and the benefits it serves.

I hope that my advice doesn't offend you. I guess alot of what you are experiencing I experienced with an ex fiance who was extremely controlling and took away alot of my self worth and so I reacted to that since it seemed familiar to me. I know that you are struggling with alot and that your self esteem is already low....I just don't want to see your boyfriend make it even lower. Try to focus on YOU, that is important.

I hope that you feel better soon. We are here for you....just ask if you need support and keep on writing away.;)

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
03-13-2007, 12:13 PM
I think it to be a little odd actually. I have even talked to my psych doc about it. When I was married I was the one who was rebellious so to speak. I wanted to do things and be my own person. Not be as responsible as I am now. So much role reversal, I mean maybe I deserve this to see what he went through. I had so much self respect and now it slips out of me, I can feel it seep away out of me. I am losing myself to try to keep this relationship. When my boyfriend and I first kissed, I had never felt anything like that. I actually felt true love. I mean it felt like the room spun and almost as if past lives flew by me. I truly believe I found my one true soulmate in this life time. Not many find that ever and I was lucky enough to. This is why I am trying so hard. This is why I am hurting so much inside and wanting to cry so long and hard. This is why................
I am just not sure what else to do. I am not sure what else can be done. I mean him nad I talk and talk. He has troubles, we all do, but as he said yesterday to me, it is hard with 2 people that have bipolar in the same relationship because you never know how you will feel that day, let alone how the other will too.

He said he knows he is very difficult to live with and he is an a**hole. I told inspite of that, I love him. I deal with that. I told him that I am doing my thinking and yes, I still react emotionally but I am still learning. You can't just throw me in the deep end and expect me to swim, give me a little time here to adjust.

He wants it NOW. I have to change, and he siad I haven't gotten him super angry at all for 4 days in a row which is a good thing.
Anyhow, I have to go for now, but Just please keep trying to help me, I can use it. I have no one else....except the doc and the doc and boyfriend have permission to talk if need be, I gave it. Pretty dumb now that It hink about it.

marshmallow
03-13-2007, 03:52 PM
I have read many of your posts and almost all of them you are "trying" to please your boyfriend. I think you should find what makes you happy and not try to always please him. What about this soul mate thing you mention? I am confused you said when you kissed him the room spinned around I am not trying to be harsh but that does not mean love or soul mate. I guess it's passion. It really is not the thing a relationship is built on. Sometimes we are in a relationship and think how much we love the person but we are so miserable with them. What else is it about him that you love? Sometimes we mistake love for need. I just think love should make a person feel good to be with the other person and you can be yourself without always having to please them or make them happy. I think everyone has to be happy within themselves before they can be happy in a relationship. I hope this is not coming off wrong because I do not want to hurt you in any way just make you stop and think. I realize you struggle each and everyday and for that I am so sorry. I know that you are dealing with a lot on your plate. I want to be supportive so please do not take this any other way. Thank you.

goody2shuz
03-13-2007, 04:32 PM
Hi, BPD-BP ~

I had so much self respect and now it slips out of me, I can feel it seep away out of me. I am losing myself to try to keep this relationship. These are very powerful words and you really MUST read them over again. Look at them and if anybody else but you were saying them what would you have to say about the relationshi???. Then add BP and BPD to it and try to imagine how much that would affect how somebody could get better. Can somebody who needs minimal stress and already has a poor self esteem do well in a relationship like this?? These questions are important because they will tell you what value the relationship holds and if it is good for somebody trying to get better and stable with BP & BPD.

When my boyfriend and I first kissed, I had never felt anything like that. I actually felt true love. I mean it felt like the room spun and almost as if past lives flew by me. I truly believe I found my one true soulmate in this life time. Not many find that ever and I was lucky enough to. This is why I am trying so hard. This is why I am hurting so much inside and wanting to cry so long and hard. This is why................ If I were to take a guess you would have most likely completed that sentence with, "......I can't let go!!" You are doing what most people would do in an abusive relationship whether it be physical, emotional OR both. Kids who are abused remember their mommy who abuses them as the one who read bedtime stories and took them to the park. Who bought them their first ice cream cone and played hide and seek. And then the abuse comes and the child remembers the good and keeps on hoping it will come back and protects the memory of the good mommy who loved them. That is what we all do with somebody we loved....we keep alive the good times and all the good moments that made us believe in the "happily ever afters". But suddenly that changes....and as much as we see the bad in the situation day in and day out, we are hoping that the good that we first saw will return. But it doesn't and it leaves us feeling empty and void because we are still giving and the other is still taking but giving nothing back to refill our inner core, our inner being. And we feel much like you described above, everything seeping out of us and lost in the relationship. When really the only thing keeping it alive are the memories and hope that it will be as it once was but isn't anymore.

....as he said yesterday to me, it is hard with 2people that have bipolar in the same relationship because you never know how you will feel that day, let alone how the other will too. I can't even imagine how that would be....living with my daughter isn't easy and definitely takes it's toll on me almost making me feel emotionally stressed and drained. So I could only imagine how this affects you AND your boyfriend....if I would venture a guess I would have to say that it probably makes it worse than better....all the stress. And that all that you work on in therapy cannot be worth much when there is somebody else with their own set of issues to work on too.

You can't just throw me in the deep end and expect me to swim, give me a little time here to adjust. Somebody who is emotionally stable may understand this but not somebody who is not equipped to.

He wants it NOW. I have to change, and he siad I haven't gotten him super angry at all for 4 days in a row which is a good thing. And that is leaving you with inner turmoil to deal with and we know that holding things in is not good and only leads to self destructive behaviors....you have been taught to mainstream things in a healthy way and having to conform to somebody elses standards in not only unfair but unhealthy.

Anyhow, I have to go for now, but Just please keep trying to help me, I can use it. I have no one else....except the doc and the doc and boyfriend have permission to talk if need be, I gave it. Pretty dumb now that It hink about it. We are here for you and it isn't too late to have a change of heart regarding your decision to allow him to talk to your pdoc....your pdoc is your lifeline to hold onto and your security to stability. You may wish to rethink that.

Sending you some (((HUGS))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
03-14-2007, 11:52 AM
To both of you above..........

Thank you for your words. I do not take offense to anything that has been said.

Goody, as you broke the quotes down tears fell from my eyes. As I read each thing seperate and I took everything in with each seperate thing, I understood it more and more.

I just fought for so long after my marriage ended that I wasn't going to 'fall in love'. It took a while for me to tell my boyfriend that I was in love with him. heck, it took him a while for him to tell me that he could trust me and love me because of all the hurt and broken trust that women had done to him.
I felt special because I was trusted. I was loved. I am still trusted and still loved. I know this.

Maybe this is just sounding worse than it is. Maybe this is the bipolar/BPd of grandureness here. I mean maybe I deserve all of this.
I could be looking not from any perspective but my own (sorry, that is an obvious one), of course, that is what I am doing, I just seeing my side of it. I am not seeing the whole picture. So, maybe this is 1/2 my fault here. Oh k. So if I fix my half, then..... then what? Then I do not know. What will happen if I work hard on my half of the problem here? Does my half get better and the other half stay broke? or is the other half not broke, is it in my mind? no, it isn't, ...maybe it is?? See, confusion...that is a problem here for me.

Oh k, so my 1/2 is broken, I am responsible for 1/2. I take full responsiblity for this. I can look at it this way.

Then there is the other 1/2. Not my half.

Maybe my doc is just right. I mean he sees it. Heck, he has been seeing me since '99. He said that no matter what I will find something wrong with the most perfect thing. I am just not happy.

I don't even think I deserve to use the word.

goody2shuz
03-14-2007, 12:06 PM
BP-BPD ~ I understand what you are saying and you know what....I am not in your 2 shoes and honestly couldn't even imagine let alone know what it is like. But I have felt the emptiness and void when somebody takes away your self worth and self esteem after going through an emotionally abusive relationship...and alot of what you described was how I was feeling at the very worst of it. And NOBODY deserves to EVER feel that way.

I just wanted to explain where I was coming from.

You are such a beautiful person who I see really wants to work on getting better. I say focus on that and do what YOU see needs fixng along with your doctor....don't do it for your boyfriend, do it for you.

I will give you an example. My cousin was in a bad marriage....where all she wanted to do is raise her kids and be home with them. She took various jobs to help out but it never was enough. Her husband constantly told her that other women worked and she should too. Eventually she went out to work and met other people who showed her respect and how special she was. Her self worth grew and she lost alot of weight (which her hubby always told her she had to do). She did it for her and as she did her self worth increased and she felt better. OTher men from where she worked told her husband how wonderful a person she was and how lucky he was to have her. He then started to realize that for himself but it was too late....the damage had been done. Emotionally he had severed all the bonds of their marriage by the way he had treated my cousin and she just couldn't go back...there was too much pain. She told me that she had emotionally divorced him years ago and she couldn't fix the damage without losing herself again. She said that it was when she started doing things for herself that things got better.

I think you are right...you need to fix your half and then when that is done reevaluate things for yourself. When your self worth is restored you will be strong enough to make any decisions that need to be made in order to maintain it.

You may be right...the BP/BPD mays be distorting things, who really knows. But in time you will know.

So go work on you for YOU and nobody else and see where that brings you. I don't doubt that you really love your boyfriend....but do you love yourself???? That is where I see the work must be done. And I have every faith in you that you will do it!!;)

(((HUGS))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

marshmallow
03-14-2007, 09:53 PM
When I saw you all alone in the other thread I asked if you wanted input and you said yes. I am going to let Goody do it she is much better at works than I am but I wish you well. Thanks.

goody2shuz
03-14-2007, 11:50 PM
No, no, no....Marshmallow...don't you go putting me on a pedestal here!!:nono: You have alot to offer here too....I know you do because I have read your posts and they really are so wonderfully supportive. I think that BP/BPD needs all the input/support that she can get and you have lots to offer in term of compassion and support. So don't you go anywhere...okay???

I hope that today was a little bit better for you BP/BPD.:angel:

(((HUGS))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
03-15-2007, 12:05 PM
Marshmellow, Goody....you are the 2 constant ones that have responded to me and have given me parts of your wisdom, please do not take them from me.

I appreciate everything you both have to offer.

I apologize if I have ever seemed ungrateful at all. Marshmellow, please do stay and please do continue to speak with me. I can use all the support I can get from you and everyone. It is greatly appreciated. So I do say thank you to you now and for future posts that shall occur.

As for yesterday, well it was a difficult day/night, but we helped one another get through it. I hope that I was of great help to him. I did the best I could for him. It was the 2 year anniversary of the night his best friend commited suicide. We were across the street from him at the bar, he was having a drink and I had a gut feeling we should of gone across the street to see the guy, to say hello, but I shoved it down and my boyfriend drank, I figured we would see the guy the next day. The next day never came. I feel bad that I neevr spoke up and said we need to go and go now. But how was I supposed to know. I am just not going to ignore my gut feelings anymore that is all. This is the third time I have total and the third time was when I would of won $500. LOL. Guess I have learned....I should of after the death.

I am just trying and I know that he is trying and with us both trying, that is a good step in the right direction. We love one another and that is a good thing.

Oh k, so yes, I might be stretching things on my end, but then again he is on his end too. Of course we are both biased, I mean we are ourselves.

So......as I have babbled and gone from one end to the other it seems......the point I am trying to make is that we are here for one another and I think that if I work on not being mean and work on not being sarcastic, he eventually works on excepting who I end up being in the end of it all after that mean and non sarcastic person is, then that will be that. BUT if he thinks that there will be him trying to mold me into things going on, then well, there might be a problem. I will figure that one out when it comes to that though.

Oh k, talked your ears off enough for now.

Sorry to dump this all on you.

Again, please, both of you stay, I can use all the input I can get.

marshmallow
03-15-2007, 04:37 PM
Bpd bipolar, you have never been ungrateful to any post. The reason I said that is because I think Goody has the right words for everyone. I really mean that and I am so afraid of hurting someone with what I might say. I know my husband always said that my words hurt him and I would be standing there shaking my head wondering what I said to hurt him. He always reacted with anger and rage so that has made me want to be extra careful. I do hope your feeling better today. I know it has to be hard dealing with so many emotions and differences in both of you. I hope it gets better with each day.

bpd_bipolar
03-15-2007, 06:51 PM
Marshmallow, please understand that when I told that I am mean and sarcastic. This is what sparked the whole 'you think about everything, you have been told by me a million times over and you still haven't listened, so I am not telling you anything, you just think from now on before you speak'......whole thing that my boyfriend has told me and I am going through.

You have not been mean or perhaps I just do not take the things that you guys on here advise me in a wrong way. See, I take things you guys advise me as an open minded person as I believe that we all have our life experiences and if each of us have lived different things.......then the conclusion to me is that we all can share our seperate experiences with one another and hope to help each other out.

So, I do not take what you say as you being mean or angry, I hope you continue to speak with me and advise. If I have a question about something you write, I shall ask. As you can see, I am pretty open here.

:)

Oh k, so as of right now, I am oh k, I think. I had laid down earlier and wanted to take a nap. I was in bed for 2 1/2 hours and got (when my boyfriend laid down with me) a cat nap in about 10 minutes for about 1/2 hour time.......I am just so exhausted. body and mind. Now his friend is over. I have to be out of bed and awake because they would just keep me up anyhow because of the noise. The talking. I just want some silence. All I want is some silence.

Boyfriend and me, together in bed. sleeping, holding one another...no time limits, no back pain, no pain of any type, just laying and relaxed. no time limits. No phone, no doorbell, nothing but us. I just don't see it ever.

Tomorrow is Friday. The day...well night I dread. Where his friend comes over and we go to the bar. His friend comes over and stays the weekend. Goes home sunday. Then his other friend will probably stay over saturday evening into night and I will have to contend with then both. At least I know I can get the bed time at midnight on Saturday because the one guy has to wake at 5:15a on Sun. to work. But still. I just don't want people here.

Am I self fish? I am working hard on being this un-sarcastic person and un-mean, I have a lot of trouble with one of his friends, the one that comes over friday and stays the whole weekend. he is the one (26 year old) that I have talked prior about. we just annoy each other and I have trouble being nice some times, but I have no choice. I have to be because of this whole new thing I am doing. Last week. I was told I did oh k over the weekend, like I got my progress report like a kid.

Ugh (I say ugh in place of a few words...lol).

Oh k, sorry to talk your ear off, but this is what I do......I write to get it out. Saves me from doing things that are unsafe to myself.

nataliejo
03-15-2007, 08:02 PM
Hey you,
I am new, but I totally understand what you are going through.
My bf wants me to be a certain way and if I am not, than he will dump me.

BUT I am rebelling. I am doing what I want to do, with compromise and he is still here after three years. I realized this year, through much prodding of therapists and friends and family, that I need to take care of me, before I can love another, I need to love myself in order to survive and people have to accept me for me. I need to better myself for my own selfish needs, but also in the hopes our relationship will get better.

BUT he has his faults and I point that out to him, so he may work on his own things and to show him that not only do I have things going on with me, but he tooooo has to delve into his own baggage or selfishness and stop judging me.

My self esteem is slowly coming back, I excersize everyday...and I have bought a couple shirt and nickers in the past week... but I am not top shape, but I am doing so much better since I have started thinking of myself and not what he exactly wants ...
If one only trys to be like the other wants than the relationship wont survive, because he will never be satiated. If you become who you want to be and compromise with him, and let him know you want changes in him toooo, maybe there can be a compromise reached and the relationship will blossom...


How long have you been together?

It was a real battle with Alex and I ..he always put me down and I blame myself for letting him do this to me and I blame him for not taking responsiblity ... but I have shot back at him his qualities I dont like and now he is accepting me ..sometimes it takes the ball in your court feel to get back your inner strength and yourself and your self esteem...

Do for you ... do for him a little ...but you live in your mind .. in your body ... you dont want to have low self esteem and I think you know why ...

so good luck in getting through this tough time ...

You may not know what to do ...but simple things ... like taking a walk ... taking a bubble bath ... bettering yourself for you ...can bring so much more to your life and I mean your life and can actually brighten up the relationship ...
listen when he says your bipolar is acting up ...because thats a good indication you need to focus on yourself and need to work on your episode and trying not to go through an episode ... but this is for you ...not for him ...because if he is the central theme to everything in your life ...than you are in danger of losing yourself ..

good luck hun

always
nataliejo

marshmallow
03-15-2007, 09:04 PM
bpd bipolar you seem to be working on yourself so much and I commend you on that but do it for yourself and it will be icing on the cake for you bf. The important thing is to be happy with yourself and don't live for another person. Believe me when I say I have been there and you end up depleted and unhappy. But as I said anything any of us can do to better ourselves benefits others too. I admire you wanting to change the things you find unpleasing to you. Keep up the writing and I understand it to be therapy for you. I hope you have a good weekend and can get along with the guy you mentioned.
YOU saidthe following:
Boyfriend and me, together in bed. sleeping, holding one another...no time limits, no back pain, no pain of any type, just laying and relaxed. no time limits. No phone, no doorbell, nothing but us. I just don't see it ever.

I can totally understand your wanting to be alone with your boyfriend and share special time without others around. I hope you get it.
Marsh......

bpd_bipolar
03-16-2007, 12:20 PM
I thank everyone for typing to me. I gather I say that a lot, but I mean it.

I stood up for myself.....it felt pretty good, see, I gather I ened to explain some things here to you guys, I don't think I am giving the whole picture and that may be a bad thing in the end of it all. Here we go.

My boyfriend wants me to be happy and do things for me. He wants me to make friends and he knows it is hard for me to trust people because a long time ago a best friend of almost 20 years slept with my boyfriend in my home while I was out working to pay our bills. It happened in my house not sure if it was in my bed or not. This is why I do not have trust for people. I do not trust at all actually. I mean I try really hard to with my boyfriend and he has
never given me a reason not to, so therefore, I guess I trust him, but that is scetchy in itself.

Oh k, now you know some things were in the last big thing on here. So, That is hard for me, I mean really difficult for me big time, so I only have one friend, and I can't even say I trust her, but she hasn't given me a reason not to trust her and I have known her for about 6 years or something like that. Still, I can not be sure of anything. I thought I could trust a best friend of 20 years.

I really got things messed up for me. So, even though my boyfriend wants me to make friends, it isn't as easy as that for me.

I'll leave it there for now. We can discuss that one and move on from there later.

goody2shuz
03-16-2007, 02:39 PM
BP/BPD ~ It is quite common for us to lose trust after somebody betrays our trust. However, it is wrong to judge somebody else based upon another person's faults. So, not trusting somebody who has never really given you reason to distrust is somewhat unfair. But we all do this and must learn to trust others knowing that they are not necessarily carrying the same flaws as somebody else did in our past. It is human nature to be a little apprehensive of others after being hurt in such a way. Like a child or animal who has been abused and knows nothing else...it takes time to rebuild that trust that they once had.

Anyway...you also shared with us here how this new friend use to be your current boyfriend's girlfriend. I don't know if that is such a good idea to become friends with her when there are already problems going on in your relationship as it is. For me, personally, I would much rather find a different friend....it just seems like another potential problem....your boyfriend already has people that you don't particularly care for coming and staying with you. I just think that you should possibly go about meeting a friend who has no past ties to your boyfriend...just my opinion.

Marshmallow gave you some wonderful advice too....it is good that you are working on yourself. You sound really motivated to do so....just do so for yourself and NOBODY else.

Well I just wanted to say hello and tell you to keep up the good job!!

((((HUGS)))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
03-17-2007, 12:00 PM
last night I was about to explode and just about throw those two guys out of here literally. they tested me pretty badly and my boyfriend knew it. he felt how bad it was and i was at my breaking point rather quickly towards 11 something at night, only about 5 1/2 hours after they both were here.

the 2 left to go to the bar and we were here for all of 5 minutes before he wanted to follow to the bar to drink more.......ahh, the following and getting drunk more thing, just neevr ceases to amaze me....like a child. if no one was here, we would of staid inside. he even said he didn't want to go to the bar, but NO. UGH.

Anyhow, today is calmer. but how long will that last for. the 25 gets back from work at 3.

then I have to deal with them both again.

I am not sure how long I can hang in there. I hope this justs go quick.

make it go away. all away. make them both go away.

help..........oh yeah, happy irish day people. me, well for me, I am just going to hope that others leave me alone and I can hide.

bpd_bipolar
03-18-2007, 11:51 AM
Well, yesterday....the day was oh k actually, it was the evening into the night that the guys drank and it began to be horrid for me. oh k, not horrid, but I became the old, sarcastic me.

I couldn't take it anymore. being nice to people who were acting like idiots to me. I broke. So I tried to keep my mouth shut as best as I could most of the time and it worked pretty well, but when I talked a bit at certain times, some sarcasm came out and I couldn't help it. I was sick of hearing the drunken mouths of these guys.

the 25 passed out early (10:15p. he had to wake at 5a for work) oh k, but the 26 that doesn't get along me with sometimes and my love that follows him like a puppy because the guy gives him a beer and says here boy.......

So, my love is drinking and not stopping. great, so now two nights of drunken idiots. yay me. I deal. Yay.

Oh k, so I manage some how to get my love to bed at 1:20a. Not sure how. Make sure he feels oh k after he lays down. then he acts different. This is a good thng (I have hypersexuality with my bipolar, so I am just glad when he actually wants to touch me, but he is drunk and the smell is bugging me, but I am not turning him away because this isn't an everyday thing. anyhow, so you are getting the picture here).

We end up going to sleep at 2 something.

I wake at 9:55a. He wakes at 9:55a. 25yr old is at work (I heard him get up and leave and all. I had got up for a moment too). 26 yr old is up too.

guys are in other room, me, in here typing, then I will take shower, wash hair and then go in livingroom and wait for the clock to move real quick so everyone can get the heck out of my house.

I put up with a lot this weekend. I do not want this crap. I do not deserve to have to put up with it. I make sure the bills get paid and 99% of my money pays these bills.

I am so self confident right now..............to bad teh computer can't translate to telling him that, huh.

nataliejo
03-18-2007, 06:36 PM
Your bf and his friends sound like they have no common courtesy and they sound like complete drunks ..

I hope you find your way
and its good you are growing confidance ...
I wish you all the best
I know I am new ...but I have been through a similar thing ..
always
natalie jo

bpd_bipolar
03-19-2007, 09:58 AM
Well, yesterday at 4:25p everyone finally left, it was the nicest thing. peace and quiet. him and I laid down and it was so nice. the time I wanted. just us holding one another.

I got through it. It was real tough and it wasn't working real well, but he made up for stuff when we went to bed at 1:20 something in the morning of ST. Pat's day whatever and then after all the guys left Sunday things were fine for us.

As long as we are alone, we are going to be oh k. They need to stay just, be away from us with this over night crap. I don't like this stuff with these 25/26 ones staying here over night and he knows that and they are the ones who bring the beer. I don't give him money for beer. therefore he buys none and has none. Friday we go to the bar if he feels like it. that is all. if no one is around, then we don't go.

simple, but this damn kid thing around him, they are the ones he follows and it bugs the heck out of me.

he is 32 going on 33.

UGH.

oh k, we will see how today is. I have to go change the laundry to the dryer at the laundry mat.

marshmallow
03-19-2007, 11:40 AM
I keep wondering what you are getting out of this relationship? It sounds like your frustrated most of the time with him and his friends. Do you ever go places that are fun for both of you and not the bars? I think you should make a list of what you love about the relationship and what you dislike and see how it tallies up. Give the relationship a good look at and see if this is something you want in 5 yr, 10 yrs and so on.

ErylFlynn
03-19-2007, 11:54 AM
From my experience being in a relationship with some one dealing with bipolar, I have some suggestions. I assume you love him and want the best.

I think you need to consider some space and a bit of seperation. It will help you get some perspective, and decide what you want. It will also help you get things straight with your boyfriend if that is what you want. This disorder hurts the people around you also, and in your case his disorder is hurting you. Some space will help you heal.

bpd_bipolar
03-20-2007, 10:21 AM
I thank you all, per usual, but I want to take a moment to thank the male that responded, I haven't had a male respond before and it was kind of him to. I believe that it helps out when a guy gives an opinion because it is from a point of view I just don't have and no one else does that we all have been talking from (no offense ladies).

Oh k, well I go see my doc here in a few minutes, so this will be short, but to sum things up, yesterday no one came over, things were fine. I was a little manic from doing laundry in the morning. Other than that, I calmed and was pretty well oh k.

I just think if the influence (of which I don't think a 32 year going on 33 should really let a younger person have on them) wasn't there then things would be oh k.

Also, the other ones, well they might be getting an apt. today, so that would mean they do not sleep here anymore and that would be my problem gone.

I will re-post after I talk with the doc today or I will post tomorrow. I will think about the advice though, maybe it is a good thought here and I kind of have thought about it, but there is really no where to go.

ErylFlynn
03-21-2007, 12:10 AM
You don't seem to have any control over who he has over, and that worries me since you need the peace it seems. If your environment is not good for you and your health, wouldn't it be a good idea to do some thing to change it? It seems your boyfriend is in a rut and is unwilling to get out and make life better for himself and you. I will check see how things are going tomorrow night, turns out this site is now blocked at work so I can only hit it after work and Kung Fu.

bpd_bipolar
03-21-2007, 11:31 AM
I vented to the doc. I pretty much let out all of everything that I could to the doc. Poor Dr. diddn't have much of a chance to say anything back to me, kind of funny...

Anyhow, well, I did stnad up mroe for myself, see there used to be a much longer thread on this site by me. they had to close it because it got to long, guess it was slowing downt hings, I can understand. But it would of let you guys know so much more, more day to day stuff so you were not coming in so "fresh" so to speak on things now. you would know more about the past, but goody remembers, goody has read a lot of the past hundreds of posts.

NO OFFENSE to anyone out there at all. Just I know for myself the more info. I have, the more it helps me give out advice to others, but anyhow, so I just stood up for myself. I used to you know. I had self respect as the doc calls it. I use skills. Umm, quick explain:

Doc ran a group and I used to go, then we would study a woman's teaching's (I still do) cnamed Marsha Linehan. She has coping skills. smart woman in my opinion. I still do the diary cards and work sheets. So you use these copings kills and with your daily meds you can cope through situations better, well I am just slipping with the skills. So, I have to get back on track. I was doing pretty good with my work sheets and I got away from them and figured I would be able to just go ahead and do my therapy of writing. Just writie everywhere.

I do. I write 3 blogs. I write in journals. I write in notebooks. I just write. I write poetry. writing is my thing, I even got an award for my poetry. It was cool.

But anyhow, back to last night. So I said what I needed to and it worked. I said it wrong at first, but I stood there and fixed it the way I needed to say it. All worked out the way I wanted it to. Not that I "won", but that I was heard.

A respect thing. it was a good start.

So, hopefully this will be something that we can work on together. I have him starting a diary card with me on the 26th. See if he can handle it. I hope he can, maybe the skills can help him and us working together on them could be to our benefit.

marshmallow
03-21-2007, 05:47 PM
bpd/bipolar your posts are all there if anyone wants to read them. They just have to click on your name and then more posts by It goes back to 2005.
How are you today?

bpd_bipolar
03-22-2007, 11:35 AM
Today is a new day. boyfriend's mom is on her way up here to take us out to lunch before she gets his daughter for driver's ed stuff (his daughter will be getting temps this year).

I just thought of something. Maybe I am getting a little freaked out about stuff also because of the kid thing. I mean I know that my kids when this whole thing happened with them being gone were only like 8 months and almost 2 years, but even though he doesn't get to see his son of the same of my oldest (who would now be 9 this year I think, born in '98)....he gets updated pics, I am jealous of that and he can see his oldest daughter who is 17 this year. I told him that I hurt about my girls and he says you did the right thing, do I agree, I said yes and then he said I have to get over it, like it is the flu or something, like it is nothing. Maybe I am just mad at him deep inside because he wants me to just live for today and not the past.

I think I am starting to figure some things out here. Maybe I get mad at him for simple things that he does and deserves, but also for stuff that he represents.

the past that I can't let go of and that part is my fault.

oh k there is a storm coming here and I got to log out. be back later or tomorrow.

bpd_bipolar
03-23-2007, 11:15 AM
Quickly...as we have to leave for our family doc.......

we went and got his daughters temp license stuff done yesterday (got her pic and all he did his first official parent thing for her by signing the paper for her, which is a big thing, but that is not a thing about him on this board).........anyhow...

ME.......um.....I am frazzeled todday, anxious. I get blood results back, which shouldn't be a bad thing, I mean I am oh k, but it is Friday and I did stand up to him again last night about the 25 staying over tonight and tomorrow as they got an apt. I am the one that gave the last reference, ironically that got them the apt. it was funny, but I want them to stay the heck out of mine. SO, um, let me see........even typing really anxious here..........just, am not looking forward to tonight again, it is a friday I am going to dread like all the others. I want it over with. the guys haven't moved in yet and some how this is my fault I guess and they are going to stay here again like usual. NO. I told him I didn't want it and then he said well, what is the big dealand I just didn't want to argue. you know......

anyhow, I just don't want to fight. So, 26 yr. old will stay the whole weekend and 25 yr old will stay sat night. but hopefully they won't get all stupid drunk...yeah right. I really need to get over it.



or something.............. oh k, gotta go to the docs, sorry, really anxious, REALLY ANXIOUS. Type later or tomorrow.

bpd_bipolar
03-24-2007, 12:46 PM
sigh.........

last night was what I thought it to be. One giant huge, mess. they were drunk. the youngest one was puking and I had to clean it up of course. Why me. Really, why me? It is his friend. He should of had to.

I got all of 5 hours of sleep, they got a lot more than that, except the young one, he had to go to work probably hung over which is good, but he is young, he can take it.

I was just angry last night, but pretended to have a nie time. hid all the unhappiness except when it became 2am and the boyfriend turned the computer back on and said 'oh, I am only going on here for a minute', then went and said he was getting a beer, I lost it. I yelled, not caring the drunk kid was sleeping. Said, you said a minute, several times, then he came back and said, I guess I am on here for a minute. I am going to bed now. I said good.

I HATE THIS.

I want them out of my house, BUT here we go, there is today.

I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS NIGHT AHEAD. I am sure that they will get beer. Not my old man, but the kids (I call them kids, but the younger ones).

I hate this.

I want this to end.

They have a place, get the heck out of mine.

just in a bad mood, but have to pretend once I walk out of this office that everything is oh k.

PRETEND.

word of the day for me.

you know, if I drank, then I could hide in it, but no, I do not drown my problems and make things worse, I am sober. I am diseased in the head and sober, my boyfriend, he is diseased in the head and smokes and drinks.

a butt. if I cuold type other words, I would, but they are not nice to post here.

Had to vent, sorry about it guys, but the anger side of the mania has a strong grip on me and I have to get it out before I go say something that I can't take back and ruin all the imaginary progress I am making or real progress I don't know anymore, I know I am really angry right now, I think I might actually need a valium though to calm down. Not for anxiety but to calm down the anger.

sorry to you guys again. post tomorrow.

marshmallow
03-24-2007, 01:25 PM
I do not mean to be harsh but this just goes on and on and YOU are the only one that can change it if you really hate it. You are not thinking of what could make you happy only what you dislike. This is not going to change unless you change it. Please think about that.

deedeehurtn
03-25-2007, 01:10 AM
I do not mean to be harsh but this just goes on and on and YOU are the only one that can change it if you really hate it. You are not thinking of what could make you happy only what you dislike. This is not going to change unless you change it. Please think about that.
is there really a light at the end of the tunnel, i read several post and new to this tonight can you tell me how to post

deedeehurtn
03-25-2007, 01:16 AM
From my experience being in a relationship with some one dealing with bipolar, I have some suggestions. I assume you love him and want the best.

I think you need to consider some space and a bit of seperation. It will help you get some perspective, and decide what you want. It will also help you get things straight with your boyfriend if that is what you want. This disorder hurts the people around you also, and in your case his disorder is hurting you. Some space will help you heal.

hi, in your response have you seperated from a bi-polar spouse? i have been livning in a pure night mare for 3 months now and my husband just left again. i feel as if i can't breathe and him moving out he will get the divorce papers going and cause more damage to our marriage cause he's in a manic mood now- we really haven't tried he blames me and says hurtful things and he reacts so quickly, when i tried talking to him he got defensive and ran out the door, he's been gone for 3 days and i haven't a clue of where's he's at??? this is killing me so much. it's as if it consumes my everythought and emotion??

bpd_bipolar
03-25-2007, 01:04 PM
Dee, when people are manic they do spur of the moment things. They do not usually think, they just "DO". They run off of emotion. No rationality there what so ever. He needs to see a psych doc and see what the doc says about meds and about perhaps skills training and things to that effect along with the meds if that is what is deemed fit by the doc. All you can do is hang in there, if you love him, be there, try to hang in.
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Marsh, I know that post was complete bipolar at it's best, but as you can see, right now I am calmer. I was rather angry last night, it got worse as more people showed up. There was no drinking at all last night by the guys. I was very very angry at one of my boyfriend's friends because he comes over all the time and if I have a bottle of Marsala cooking wine (this guy is a chef), he always grabs a glass, a double shot glass and pours some. He asks my boyfriend and ignores me completely, well I over heard my boyfriend say I am not an enabler and I spoke up in front of a whole house full of people (little apt. full) and said loudly, do not drink my marsala. He said how he would buy me a bottle of good marsala to have and I said I do not care, do not drink any of my marsala. Well, I walk in the kitchen later on, because that is when I happen to need to go in there and sure enough the jerk had drank some.

I told my boyfriend I am tired of your friends treating me like I do not exist. I pay bills, I live here and I exist. I am not invisible. They will respect me. I had put my foot down, I told him I love him and I respect him, but with each seperate case, especially this guy, who is older, I think 37, thinks he knows everything and doesn't listen to anyone, he will respect me in my house or get the heck out. I will put my foot down to him.

Anyhow, just showing to you, that not all nights are about the boyfriend, things with him and I are oh k at times, it is the outside influences 90% of the time. They are the ones that ruin things. I then let things build up. I HOLD IT ALL IN. So, even though he does stuff wrong, I hold it in and make it boil up, so we both need to work on stuff. I do not want anyone to think that he is a bad guy. He is just who he is. I am trying to get out of the habit of being the parent and maybe he will get out of the habit of being the kid if I do not treat him like one, you know (doc agrees with me on that one).

Oh k, anyhow, Ihope you aren't mad at me. I like you talking with me. You are a good person and post thoughtful things to me. :)

Just trying to show that everyday isn't a drinking one. or a bad one. but I need to slow down because I am starting a manic thing. I think I need to eat. How easy I go from calm to manic......not good I don't think.
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goody2shuz
03-25-2007, 05:53 PM
Hi, DeeDee:wave: Welcome...the best thing to do is open a thread of your own coming up with a title and then posting what seems to be the problem that you need the most support for. You will see once you come to the Bipolar Board at the top left hand corner there is a tab that says something like "New Thread". Click on that and type away....looking forward to seeing you. There is another poster, Marshmallow who is going through something very similar and will be of great support to you.

BP/BPD ~ You just keep on working on yourself. The thing that I think most of us worry about is the day to day stress that you are under and that perhaps you would do better on your own without all that stress. But who is to say that not knowing everything....all in all you MUST do what is best for you and for your overall health and well being. Sometimes it sounds as if your boyfriend doesn't take any of your feelings into account and just makes your life harder....that's all.

Just keep on doing what you need to do for yourself.

(((((HUGS))))))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
03-26-2007, 11:58 AM
Some times I think that I get the full hit of bipolar and end up on the up side of the manic hill and that is when I am typing, therefore I type to release and things come out that make things look bad. They seem that way because my emotional mind is, of course, acting on impulse of everything is horrid (ie: complete judgements), but in the reality of things, they aren't as "horrid" as the level of bipolar/BPD is making them out to be.

Do not get me wrong, I do know that things are not peachy keen here. There are a definite 50/50 thing of probs going on and yes, I do have to stop acting and start thinking, but that is something I have been working on for almost a month now. The time that those people sleep over on the weekend make things 100% worse for me and then I get all the mania and stress.....BOOM a bomb is created. This past weekend it wasn't even drinking of any kind on Saturday, it was the fact that one of his friends made me feel invisible and, well read above about the 37 (the older guy, who thinks he knows everything).

I just hated it and do hate it.

I am not into being ignored especially in my own home. I won't be and I have never been before. I used to be the one in the lime light so to speak back in the day, you know. now, my leo signed boyfriend is. This gemini isn't. I have become introverted to a point. I want to stay away from people and now...one of his friends came over, the one that lives in the past. one with diabetes. that drinks all the time and doesn't think he can get through the day without partying. oh boy.

Something new everyday, you know. What are you going to do though. Guess, just deal with it as it comes along, But the sleeping over people, well they have a home now, one not that far from here that they can walk to. They do not drive, and walk to work and every where, so that is all good. When they are real drunk, nope, they can walk drunk to their place, no staying here anymore.


I am done with it.

bpd_bipolar
03-27-2007, 11:48 AM
Today is our 4 year anniversary. You know, I actually sit here and am not sure what to type. I mean right now, as of now, things are mellow.

I like it now. No qualms, no nothing. I might be back later with some dilema, but for now, my bipolar and BPD are in check. outside situations are oh k as well. Hope it stays this way.

bpd_bipolar
03-28-2007, 12:10 PM
Greetings to all. Well, I am back. I didn't get back on here yesterday to write, but dilema's arose. Boy, did they ever. I got offline and then, after he woke, it all hit me. I said happy anniversary, he said it back, we gave each other a kiss and then, well, the day went to hell.

We spent about 10 minutes together, then he left for his friends (which I said, oh k to because his friends just moved in together and his friend had his 16 month there and needed a spoon to feed the kid with so of course I said go ahead and bring him a spoon, it would of been self fish of me to say no...that would of been mean), then after a bit, I think about 20 minutes - 45 he came back (he was walking), well he came back with his friend and the 16 month old. If you guys have read the past whole thread thing, then you know I am not easy around children because of the thing with my own little ones being gone.

Oh k, so they hung out for about 2 hours, around. I ended up raising my voice at one point for the kid to stop grabbing my glass dish and I stopped. I realized what I was doing and stopped, I couldn't take it, floods of memories came back to me about my girls........this was only the begining of it all.

So, they left and then iour other friend came over. No time for us yet. Oh k, so our friend and him go in the office and they work on his online page. Me, just sitting alone in the living room. Oh yay. Oh k, so hour or so goes by and then he is about to leave when the door bell rings. Another of his friends is here and the other leaves. A freaking revolving door is needed now. So, now someone is here still. US??? NOPE, not alone yet. Oh, except that first 10 minutes. Anyhow, so the kid stays for about an hour. It is now about 5 I think. So, I came in the office, sat and wrote him an email because I know he'll read that sooner than talk to me, he is just going togo straight online, know this. What happens, he comes in the room, I log out and he goes straight online, ME, I AM DEPRESSED. BIG TIME.

So, I say, I am going to lay down. not even 10 minutes goes bya nd the doorbell rings, I am about to burst into tears. It seems that mroe ******ing people are showing up on our anniversary than ever that whole week plus weekend combined. It was the kid that used to stay the weekend. I get out of bed, now I can't even lay down. I am furious, but have to fake that being oh k, doing a lousy job of it, but am just not doing to well here. All I wanted was a nice anniversary. Anyhow, so that guy leaves at 6:50p. boyfriend finally begins to cook dinner, I am really hungry and we are in the kitchen, that is when we talk.

I told him, I know this probably doesn't mean much to you, but this means a lot to me. he says he didn't think we were one of those couples. I asked what kind? he said material. I said what??????? I said I am not a material person. All I wanted was to be with you, not everyone that showed up today, just you and me out walking ALONE or just together watching a show, but not bothered ont his, the only day we have for our 4 yr. anniversary. He comes back with, you know what though.....I look at it as we have a lot of years for us to have many anniversaries, so this one is just another day to me. we'll have more.

After he finally said his feelings, I didn't know what to do, except start to cry. I was floored because it is so hard for him to get his feelings out to me. I know he loves me, but to finally say what he feels deep inside and to say that we will have more than this anniversary.....we'll have more. I mean I don't know whether that was to appease me or if he meant it, but that was the sweetest damn thing on earth and I needed it at that moment, I was ready to break down.

Then, after dinner and we lay down, we made love (sorry, trying to tell the story here),we get up and then he gets to the phone and says, well we have been together alone for 2 hours, so I can call and have the guys come over, right?

I was about to scream, guess the look I had scared him because he put the phone down really quick.

My bipolar is hitting hard...................go figure. There, process that and tel me your thoughts.

bpd_bipolar
03-29-2007, 11:52 AM
Last night, I'll cut to the chase, we went to the bar, he got drunk. We staid till 1am and walked his friend out. all fine. we got back home, everything was shut down for the night, Iwas ready for bed, he turned the damn computer back on. said 'just going to check my email then come to bed', he lied to me. Gee a drunk lying.......I never thought it. He went to that damn ******* page. everything was fine beore he made a ******* page. I am fine with my ******* page, he stares at it, like a magic page.

Anyhow, so he finally comes to bed at 2:09a. I finally fall asleep (he passes out right away of course) at 3a. Then I am jsut awake and loooking at the clock about every hour. I am SO tired. Well it would be oh k if we had nothing to do today or tonight, BUT tonight is the Mushroomhead concert. So, not only do I have to drive (which driving in the day I am oh k), but I'm sober, so I trust it............but I have to stay up until 2am then drive us home in the dark, no lights bu mine and whoever the drunks ont he road use their lights. I have trouble seeing in the dark driving. NOT FUN.

I am so tired. I want to cry. He kept me up knowing I am going to be tired, I barely and I mean got broken up barely any sleep. I want to break down and cry. I figured I would get my online stuff done and then just go back to bed all day, try to eat something and take a shower then we leave for the concert at 6:16pm. I know people will call and people will come over, people always bug me when I need to sleep. I NEED TO SLEEP.

I hate this, he says he is sorry, but I don't know if I believe him, maybe he iss orry that I am tired, but maybe it is because I have to drive him and his friend. probably the only reason I am going because I am the one to drive and be sober.

You know, some times if I matter, I wonder ......I mean do I matter? maybe I am so tired that I am not thinking straight. I don't know.

Sorry, I can't even tell if I am manic or depressed, wait, yes DEPRESSED.

talk later or tomorrow or is I am around whenever, have to figure out what to do if I can even fall backt o sleep which I take sleeping pills to fall asleep, so I doubt I will be able to lay down and just fall asleep.

HELP ME. I AM OVER REACTING???????????????? AM I???????????????

I NEED HELP

bpd_bipolar
03-30-2007, 01:09 PM
Yeah.......Here we go........Yesterday:

Basic of it all I was working on about a total of 9 (out of 31 hours of sleep) and then we go out to the car and someone had dumped motor oil all over the seats and dash..pretty much the whole front of too...steering wheel and such (then upon arriving, we got out and I found out that the oil soaked through the towel and I had oil on my butt through the whole show).

So, as you can see I wasn't too happy (and needless to say my boyfriend wasn't either)....keep in mind this was our 4 yr. anniversary gift, his to me (the concert).

There ya go. I was sad, I held back tears for hours, but you know what?? I saw the lead singer of the lead band there, Mushroomhead. Anyhow I got to meet him, summoned the courage to walk up to him, motor oil on my butt and all and talked to him and shook his hand and then talked to him later on and got his autograph and then when they played I had some fun. I even got hit on (I did sit down for a good portion of the time we were there though).

Anyhow, the point of me telling you all of this..............I was super I mean super at the end of my rope, I was losing tears left and right and I held it in. BARELY. My boyfriend tried to help me. He tried to comfort me, but knew he couldn't get past my anger that was inside, I was yelling the whole time we were outside and trying to figure what to do at first . Then we got towels of which I only HAD good ones, but now, NOW things are ruined, my only pair of jeans, ruined and my good towles, ruined. I don't know why, I mean we keep to ourselves, we do nothing to these idiots in this building we live in and they concentrated the oil throwing on my side of the car.

Someone was mad at me. I denied a ride to someone earlier in the week because it was at night and I have a lot of trouble seeing at night. That is the only thing we can think of.

I am tired, sore and getting I don't even know. angry, depressed, gonna cry, not sure. Talk later.

bpd_bipolar
03-31-2007, 12:10 PM
I have only gotten about 6 hours of sleep last night. Didn't go to the bar, his friend didn't work, but his friend made it known that he is working tonight, so come on down......this is really what I need.

Anyhow, so, still can't figure out the car thing.

a girl I know, she is coming over to take me to get some dish soap (Dawn) to get for my boyfriend to try to get the oil out of the car seats. Also to get his meds for him and I found out that I am out of my topamax, but I found some 25mg ones.....which I take 200mg, so I will have to 8 to = that much, but that is oh k, it is better than none.

I am talking to the doc when we go on the 2nd. think that is Monday.

I have a headache and just want to curl up and hide.

no one has posted here to talk to me, am I babbling????? did I get anyone angry at me?????

I can't be concerned I guess, it isn't my boyfriend that did this to me, manner of fact he is holding me together right now. weird how he is being my glue right now. I am afraid to go near my car for fear something new is going to be wrong.

oh k, have to go.

marshmallow
03-31-2007, 08:12 PM
I know I am not mad or upset with you but I don't know what to say for sure. I guess I just don't see much happiness in your relationship that lasts for long. I am glad at this time your bf is supporting you and helping you.

bpd_bipolar
04-01-2007, 12:48 PM
It's oh k. Just wasn't sure if I offended people away from me. Last long thread I had I was the only one writing and then I got asked why I was journaling......lol, just making sure that I didn't get asked that again.

Anyhow, the anger about my car is still inside. My boyfriend wants me to let it go, but I just have it inside even though there is nothing I can do about it, I just have it inside.

Good that I have my psych doc appt. Monday (tomorrow).

Anyhow, things with the boyfriend n I are oh k. that is a good thing. he just got up though, must be nice for him to sleep in. I never get to. I have to get up and do laundry tomorrow morning no matter what then we go to the docs in the afternoon.

My headache is fighting to come out and it was really really bad last night. I hurt.

he is turning up music out in the livingroom. great. See, the little things. it is where I get upset. my fault I guess.

marshmallow
04-01-2007, 05:35 PM
It is not all your fault when 2 people live together they must show respect for one another or it will not work. If you have a headache he could respect that you need quiet and other times you are the one to forgo something for him. Its give and take both ways I think.

bpd_bipolar
04-02-2007, 11:07 AM
I am starting to wonder if something is worng with my brain....let me re-phrase. Something other than the bipolar/BPD.

I have had severely bad headaches all weekend, but it hit really hard saturday, calmed sunday mid day, but came nad went. I have it today. I am wondering if it is stress though.

We see the psych doc today at 2p. I am doing laundry now and I'll be going to get it soon.

Cause of this motor oil thing I have been so angry. Stress level perhaps with the headaches??

Not sure, but I am just pretty much down to my last thread on things.

I just got done with a small discussion which could of been a big argument with my boyfriend, but I told him, this is silly, (all about saving a photo, he said was small and I said, I could see the pic, so I saved it....a pic of my favorite WWE star). I mean, come on. My head is pounding here. We are talking about silly things here.

I have to go kill my back on getting the laundry. I have to deal with other people at the laundry mat, a bunch also in about 10 minutes if not shorter and he is just getting in the shower, which is cool, but my pain is just sucky. I know he is in his own pain too.........but this still sucks.

oh k, my head is flaring, gotta go. maybe the psych doc can help a bit later with the stress stuff.

bpd_bipolar
04-03-2007, 12:11 PM
Talked to the psych doc. stress is the major cause of my headaches. go figure (sorry for sarcasm). sad thing is is that when he left yesterday my headache went away too. he was gone for about 3 hours and so was my headaches. gee, can't be coincidence.........

anyhow, we are upping my topamax again, so now I am 225mg. heading upward more.

oh k, have to go, pay bills and do other stuff. talk later, but my bipolar and BPD, well that is in full swing and I am fighting and keeping my emotions buried so deep down and being so soft spoken and nice it is sickening. if you would knwon me before him, well you would of known a woman that spoke her mind and did it loudly and was the funny one and the life of the party, not anymore, now I am a freaking doormat???????

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

bpd_bipolar
04-03-2007, 07:44 PM
He was gone for 2 hours earlier, came back, then he leaves again after cooking me dinner at 5:40 (well he wouldn't of, but I said...umm, can you cook me dinner, please). I finally took my head ache pill (Amitryptilyne...something to that effect on spelling). he left and boom, stress is reduced and pill kicked in and I am feeling better, I gave him $5 to make sure that he would eat at McDonald's, he said I can't promise that I won't buy beer, I said this isn't for beer, this is for food and pop, I said no, I want you to eat food and drink normal beverage. He said I can't promise anything.

I told him whatever. I am tired of this. I am done. If he doesn't eat with the money or bring the money back, he is not getting any extra money from me ever again. that will be the end. for good.

Stress. I do not like that it is my boyfriend, the one I love. pain in my butt is what he is but I love him.

he was just so happy to leave to go to the young ones house (they moved in together about 6 blocks away now, which is good because I have alone time and he get out and walk), but he is now going there all the time and when he comes back he brings one back with him....come home alone. don't come back with anyone I don't want them here. He goes there to smoke anyhow. I think he uses them sometimes, but I really don't care, I am at that point.

UGH!!!!!

oh k, well I had to get that out. bipolar is hitting, per usual, but I need to practice my one in the moment skill.

by for now.

bpd_bipolar
04-04-2007, 11:47 AM
Got an email fro a girl who I thought was a friend for the past almost 6 years now. she said she never wants to talk to me again. she is p*ssed at me and hates me. She said that she read my **** and I ruined our friendship. I never wrote anything in my **** , not her name not anything. the only thing I ca think of is that day I wrote that I was super tired, I had gotten no sleep and it was the day of the conccert and I had to ddrive and stay up till probably 2am and would have trouble staying awake and have trouble driving in the dark, well she took it as, she wasn't a taxi service and I am a horrid person.


she ended a friendship in an email. I am so p*ssed off about this. now I have no friends.

See, friends never stay by you, they all leave you. this is why I don't have any, they are worthless................

marshmallow
04-05-2007, 08:46 AM
Real friends are a blessing but hard to find. Maybe she is having a bad day and will change her mind. Are you a teenager? Some of the stuff you say makes me not know how old you are. I don't mean that in a negative way.

bpd_bipolar
04-05-2007, 12:15 PM
Actually, I am 31.....but I am not sure if we are allowed to give out our ages on here........

In any case. the BPd and Bipolar does make me write rather quickly, obviously emotionally, so I tend to type without thinking of the correct words most times, apologies for not picking the correct sentencing at times (I can understand where you could think that though).

After a a while, I did go to her house (later in the day) in a wise mind (again, thanks to Marsha Linehan's teachings.......from my psychiatrist) and spoke with her and she and I had discuused the fact that she has a lot going on in her life with her g-pa on his death bed and her fmaily leaving for Florida Friday and so on and such. she read something and mistakingly thought it had something to do with her (which I told her it had nothing to do with her and it had everything to do with my boyfriend)...she said...basically, oh.

then, we both agreed that it was written in emotional mind and that she should of called me or emailed me when she was calmed and not in emotional mind.

Point being, she knows to speak with me because if I question something she has done, I always ask her what is up. I clearified that to her. She agreed. So, things are settled, but whatever trust I began to have in her, is now dead.

So, for me, I have no trust in anyone........the boyfriend, well he hasn't given me a reason not to trust him, but he pushes it a lot at times, so I am not sure about him (not that he would go out and do something like cheating, but on other things, like saying things to other people....a game of telephone if you will. can't repeat the same thing twice.

BUT, oh k, age established....how old are you??

:)

thank you for taling with me and I hope we don't get in trouble for the age thing.

Take care and thank you for asking and caring

marshmallow
04-05-2007, 08:51 PM
I am glad you had a chance to talk to her and make things clear. Maybe in time you will learn to trust her and others again. I hope so. I know it is hard sometimes when life has disappointed you. I know that has happened to me too. I had to learn to look at the person apart from what others had done to me. It takes time though. I won't mention what you said you shouldnt.
I hope your doing well tonight.

bpd_bipolar
04-06-2007, 11:48 AM
Ready to leave in a minute here. Take a shower first actually. Boyfriend is getting a cd with his money. He is exceited about it, me....it's snowy out and I am just not in the mood to drive, but oh well, I lost the right to vote on things...I have to grab my muscle relaxers anyhow.

bipolar is o hk for now, but it is only begining. be back later or tomorrow. just taking deep breathes

michael178
04-06-2007, 06:20 PM
It is difficult to deal with relationship issues on a bipolar board. Are there specific disease issues that you want addressed. If not there is a relationship health board that would probably be a better place to address your concerns.

bpd_bipolar
04-07-2007, 12:51 PM
My bipolar and BPD which is Boderline Personality Disorder (and I mean no disrespect to you at all, Michael...please take this as none given), has everything to do with what I "have notions of" my problems.

I do see and thank you for what you have said though.

I write my thread here and have been getting advice, which is grately appreciated......always stated to all I post to.....

My issues are bipolar/BPD. Yes, my boyfriend is envolved, but I am basically with him 24/7. It has been to where he has actually been going out to his friends a bit more now, walking up to their house, so I have had some alone time, in the previous posts on other past pages..........

But I do not expect all people to go back and read everything written within a thread, I am sure you guys have better things to do then to understand the entire situation, if that were the case, then well, honestly, everyone would of began with the first thread ever written by me that was closed because of so many posts (they closed because it had over 6500 view and it slowed the system....something to that effect).....Again, I am not trying to be a smart butt or anything, just understanding things from your side of how you can not possibly know all that is happening here.

Anyhow, my bipolar/BPD stems with moods, rapid cycling as I am begining now. Today my Aunt Died (in 2005, so it the 2 year anniversary), it was my father's sister. I broke down yesterday. briefly. Then I feel myself going into a tail spin here, but am trying to keep it together. Yesterday I found myself outside beating my car, well the ice to get it off with the plastic snow brush. My boyfriend got me back inside and asked me what was up, to just wait until his friend got here and he would drive us where we needed to go and it would be oh k, then he hugged me.

Oh k, see, right there, back in that paragraph, I mention my boyfriend. No matter what I am writing.......good, bad, indifferent he will be in it most likely. My mental BPD/Bipolar issues have him in tow. ALWAYS.

Anyhow, today I am depressed of course. My aunt died without me being able to say goodbye to her, she had breast cancer, but she beat it, she was ona lot of meds for it, but she was on real tough meds, strong meds. my uncle went bowling this very day in 2005 during the evening and when he got back about 2-4 hours later, he found her dead. She had taken 2 doses of her meds, she forgot she took the first dose..............I questioned if she was in a lot of pain, I questioned if this was no accidental OD, but I was assured and I knew her, she would never cop out of life, she was tough, she told my boyfriend over the phone that if he ever hurt me (she is a tough NY woman) that she would have to come kick his butt. I miss her. I love her and I couldn't even go to the damn funeral. I didn't have the money to go. no way to get there to NY. I couldn't even say goodbye to her in anyway shape or form. I have no closure for her, the woman I loved and admired.

So.......................for today.............I am asking one thing from everyone here on the board and that is to reply to THIS POST, what I have written about my aunt ONLY.

not about anything else, I can't handle it. Thank you and again, no disrespect to anyone. Just can't take much without breaking right now.

marshmallow
04-07-2007, 12:56 PM
I am so sorry about your loss. I know how hard it is losing a family member. My thoughts are with you. Hugs. Take care.

goody2shuz
04-07-2007, 02:06 PM
BP/BPD ~ I know that with both BP/BPD losses are a big thing...my daughter still talks about every loss that she has had in her life and when she does it is as if it just happened yesterday. I know that you have had your share of them which haunt you and I don't want to tell you to not think about them but if you could believe that each and every person in this world has been given to us on a loan to experience life with, perhaps thinking of it in that sense will allow you to feel less of a loss. There is no knowledge as to how long they will be here in the physical sense but the real GIFT is in the knowledge that even though they physically are no longer a part of our lives they will always be a part of our lives with the memories that we have shared with them and that are now carried within our hearts forever. Nobody could ever take that away from us.

It sounds like your aunt loved you dearly and that you share some great memories of her. Perhaps you can take what she has left you in terms of her strength to battle through her cancer and use it in your life so that her legacy lives on in you as you carry on her fine attributes knowing that when you are able to do so her life and time that she shared with you wasn't all in vain.

I read your posts everyday.....even when there isn't much time and I just wanted to let you know that each day I am thinking of you and hoping that you are gaining more and more strength to lead a stable and productive life. Eliminating as much stress as possible is so important as you are beginning to see.

I hope that I have helped in someway for you to see that even though there are losses in our lives there are also many gains. It sometimes comes down to how we look at things....you may have lost an aunt but in having her as part of your life even for the short time that you have you have also gained some strength and wisdom that had you not had her you may not have had the opportunity to.

I hope that you can find some love and peace in that.

(((HUGS))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

deedeehurtn
04-08-2007, 12:23 AM
My bipolar and BPD which is Boderline Personality Disorder (and I mean no disrespect to you at all, Michael...please take this as none given), has everything to do with what I "have notions of" my problems.

I do see and thank you for what you have said though.

I write my thread here and have been getting advice, which is grately appreciated......always stated to all I post to.....

My issues are bipolar/BPD. Yes, my boyfriend is envolved, but I am basically with him 24/7. It has been to where he has actually been going out to his friends a bit more now, walking up to their house, so I have had some alone time, in the previous posts on other past pages..........

But I do not expect all people to go back and read everything written within a thread, I am sure you guys have better things to do then to understand the entire situation, if that were the case, then well, honestly, everyone would of began with the first thread ever written by me that was closed because of so many posts (they closed because it had over 6500 view and it slowed the system....something to that effect).....Again, I am not trying to be a smart butt or anything, just understanding things from your side of how you can not possibly know all that is happening here.

Anyhow, my bipolar/BPD stems with moods, rapid cycling as I am begining now. Today my Aunt Died (in 2005, so it the 2 year anniversary), it was my father's sister. I broke down yesterday. briefly. Then I feel myself going into a tail spin here, but am trying to keep it together. Yesterday I found myself outside beating my car, well the ice to get it off with the plastic snow brush. My boyfriend got me back inside and asked me what was up, to just wait until his friend got here and he would drive us where we needed to go and it would be oh k, then he hugged me.

Oh k, see, right there, back in that paragraph, I mention my boyfriend. No matter what I am writing.......good, bad, indifferent he will be in it most likely. My mental BPD/Bipolar issues have him in tow. ALWAYS.

Anyhow, today I am depressed of course. My aunt died without me being able to say goodbye to her, she had breast cancer, but she beat it, she was ona lot of meds for it, but she was on real tough meds, strong meds. my uncle went bowling this very day in 2005 during the evening and when he got back about 2-4 hours later, he found her dead. She had taken 2 doses of her meds, she forgot she took the first dose..............I questioned if she was in a lot of pain, I questioned if this was no accidental OD, but I was assured and I knew her, she would never cop out of life, she was tough, she told my boyfriend over the phone that if he ever hurt me (she is a tough NY woman) that she would have to come kick his butt. I miss her. I love her and I couldn't even go to the damn funeral. I didn't have the money to go. no way to get there to NY. I couldn't even say goodbye to her in anyway shape or form. I have no closure for her, the woman I loved and admired.

So.......................for today.............I am asking one thing from everyone here on the board and that is to reply to THIS POST, what I have written about my aunt ONLY.

not about anything else, I can't handle it. Thank you and again, no disrespect to anyone. Just can't take much without breaking right now.
my thoughts are w/ you as well. i'am so sorry for your lost

kidd123
04-08-2007, 08:21 AM
HI, Like Goody I try to read your posts every day. It is so helpful to see the world from your point of view and the way it affects you. Please write some more about this awesome aunt of yours. I too lost my aunt almost 2 yrs ago & I couldn't go to her funeral because I was in another state taking care of my sister-in-law. My aunt loved me unconditionally and was a real lifeline for me, as my own mother is bipolar and I had a very stressful childhood. My aunt's name was Merry and she was always smiling--even though she lost her youngest son in Viet Nam when he was only 19 yrs old, she experienced major loss in her life.
So share some more about your aunt and what she did with you and for you.
Writing is theraputic and you are a great writer. I hope you are smiling today.
God bless you!

bpd_bipolar
04-08-2007, 12:09 PM
Marsh, Goody, Dee, Kidd......Thank you. I just read everything. Thank you.

Yesterday after reading what michael had said...basically telling me to 'go away' (especially being the anniv. day of my aunt's death and my bpd and bipolar hitting harder then usual...I wanted to write a lot meaner than I did, but I some where inside knew he just read one post or maybe 2 and dropped a note to say don't b*tch here, there is another place for that.....to be blunt about it), also, I am sure he wasn't going to come out and say go away as this board is for Everyone and I have used it as I am supposed to and the 2 mistakes I have made, were in fact mistakes and I didn't know....so I did learn over time. ANYHOW..........

Kidd........My Aunt Sherry. Well, she was (is) a beautiful New York woman. Tough as hell and the breast cancer should of never came near her. It might o fmade her sick, thought it could win, but it had no chance.....she is 20x's the toughness of some cancer. She came to my wedding back and told my husband (before we got married) that if he hurt me she would hunt him down.....when we got the dissolution, I told her that it was all peaceful and we were still friends and she said are you sure because I'll go take care of it. I laughed. Then I got with my boyfriend and she told him on the phone that if he hurt me, she would kick his *ss. He handed the phone to me and laughed a little I looked at him (this is when she had the chemo to still do and radiation for the cancer) and said what are you laughing, she'll kick your *ss. Cancer or none.

Last time I saw her eye to eye and even have a photo was when I was 8 months pregnant with my first kid and my brother got married back in 1998. I have that photo, but didn't even take it out to look at yesterday.

Anyhow,so........my boyfriend took off yesterday to his friend's. he asked me first, I told him to just leave, I mean honestly, was he going to sit and watch me be depressed all day or be away from me? When his best friend hung himself (which was the anniv. came up 2 - 3 weeks this happened before my aunt died) I staid with him, bu his side and never left, but hey, that is just me, I am the loving girlfriend)....ANYHOW........SO, I called the one person, the one man in my life that never shows emotion, that has not once, well yes, only once cried and I saw it. when I was 6 years old and he took me, my brother and my mom into the garage in NY and said that me and your mom are divorcing, he cried for 20 seconds.

Anyhow, so I called him, all I said in a teary voice was to tell me it will be oh k. that is all I wanted, my father to tell me it would be oh k. He said, so what is up. I told him, just say the words. He said.....what's up.

I told him it is just hard for me about aunt sherry (this is his sister by the way).

He told me something that I will never forget. He said that well, you two had stuff in common. You both have names that begin with S and end in Y. you both have (had...he switched for her) big hearts. Then he said she was a bit better cook then you I think though. I was about to pour tears.....he was being the dad to me he never was for 31 years. then he asked me if I was there, well actually he said...hello? I said, yeah.....a low teary voiced one that is.....anyhow, so I said I just can't seem to get past this anniversary for her and he said, well she couldn't get past Rory's either, so that is something else you two have in common. Rory is their youngest brother that died. I never met him (a suicide on a motorcycle......not going into detail, but not how you are thinking, it wasn't pretty or riding). Point is my father had turned into dad for a moment. then he had to turn to the sarcasm and say that well, if all holds up then Kevin should be next because it seems to go from the youngest and he is the next youngest (there are 5, well were).

Anyhow, after hanging up. I was along for 5 hours. laying on the couch. I wrote a bit in my journal. but found laying on the couch crying the best for me.

----There, told you more, hope I don't get a message about talking about family so go away to the family board.-------SEE, that is a BIPOLAR/BPD REMARK.

sarcasm too I guess..........anyhow, sorry, moody as heck, need to take an anxiety pill pretty badly here too.

deedeehurtn
04-08-2007, 12:32 PM
Marsh, Goody, Dee, Kidd......Thank you. I just read everything. Thank you.

Yesterday after reading what michael had said...basically telling me to 'go away' (especially being the anniv. day of my aunt's death and my bpd and bipolar hitting harder then usual...I wanted to write a lot meaner than I did, but I some where inside knew he just read one post or maybe 2 and dropped a note to say don't b*tch here, there is another place for that.....to be blunt about it), also, I am sure he wasn't going to come out and say go away as this board is for Everyone and I have used it as I am supposed to and the 2 mistakes I have made, were in fact mistakes and I didn't know....so I did learn over time. ANYHOW..........

Kidd........My Aunt Sherry. Well, she was (is) a beautiful New York woman. Tough as hell and the breast cancer should of never came near her. It might o fmade her sick, thought it could win, but it had no chance.....she is 20x's the toughness of some cancer. She came to my wedding back and told my husband (before we got married) that if he hurt me she would hunt him down.....when we got the dissolution, I told her that it was all peaceful and we were still friends and she said are you sure because I'll go take care of it. I laughed. Then I got with my boyfriend and she told him on the phone that if he hurt me, she would kick his *ss. He handed the phone to me and laughed a little I looked at him (this is when she had the chemo to still do and radiation for the cancer) and said what are you laughing, she'll kick your *ss. Cancer or none.

Last time I saw her eye to eye and even have a photo was when I was 8 months pregnant with my first kid and my brother got married back in 1998. I have that photo, but didn't even take it out to look at yesterday.

Anyhow,so........my boyfriend took off yesterday to his friend's. he asked me first, I told him to just leave, I mean honestly, was he going to sit and watch me be depressed all day or be away from me? When his best friend hung himself (which was the anniv. came up 2 - 3 weeks this happened before my aunt died) I staid with him, bu his side and never left, but hey, that is just me, I am the loving girlfriend)....ANYHOW........SO, I called the one person, the one man in my life that never shows emotion, that has not once, well yes, only once cried and I saw it. when I was 6 years old and he took me, my brother and my mom into the garage in NY and said that me and your mom are divorcing, he cried for 20 seconds.

Anyhow, so I called him, all I said in a teary voice was to tell me it will be oh k. that is all I wanted, my father to tell me it would be oh k. He said, so what is up. I told him, just say the words. He said.....what's up.

I told him it is just hard for me about aunt sherry (this is his sister by the way).

He told me something that I will never forget. He said that well, you two had stuff in common. You both have names that begin with S and end in Y. you both have (had...he switched for her) big hearts. Then he said she was a bit better cook then you I think though. I was about to pour tears.....he was being the dad to me he never was for 31 years. then he asked me if I was there, well actually he said...hello? I said, yeah.....a low teary voiced one that is.....anyhow, so I said I just can't seem to get past this anniversary for her and he said, well she couldn't get past Rory's either, so that is something else you two have in common. Rory is their youngest brother that died. I never met him (a suicide on a motorcycle......not going into detail, but not how you are thinking, it wasn't pretty or riding). Point is my father had turned into dad for a moment. then he had to turn to the sarcasm and say that well, if all holds up then Kevin should be next because it seems to go from the youngest and he is the next youngest (there are 5, well were).

Anyhow, after hanging up. I was along for 5 hours. laying on the couch. I wrote a bit in my journal. but found laying on the couch crying the best for me.

----There, told you more, hope I don't get a message about talking about family so go away to the family board.-------SEE, that is a BIPOLAR/BPD REMARK.

sarcasm too I guess..........anyhow, sorry, moody as heck, need to take an anxiety pill pretty badly here too.
i know it maybe hard but try to relax and give your self much needed time to reflect. and have a happy easter

marshmallow
04-09-2007, 12:42 PM
I am sure Michael doesn't mean any harm by saying to go to another board on relationship issues. He told some of us spouses of bp almost the same thing. Our issues are about bp/ bpd so I think its appropriate to be here especially since so many get so much out of it. None of us want to hurt anyone or be critical but sometimes it might come out that way. I hope your doing well today. Hugs.

bpd_bipolar
04-09-2007, 01:44 PM
If he reads just this post then he will probably tell me to go there after he wraps me in a straight jacket......heh. Last night after arguing aboutit for a few, we went downt ot the bar, I gave him $2 to get a beer. Well, thankfully we went because a guy, a mutual friend that I havent' (we haven't) seeen in 7 months because he moved away was there, as soon as we walked in, the man walked up to me and held me, I mean I ehld on to him so tight and I didn't let go and vice versa. he said can you breathe and I said I dont' care. I held him as much as I could. He kissed my cheek a bunch and I kissed his back. It was like we had been seperated forever and it felt like it. I miss him so much. His new girlfriend didn't say a word about it and my boyfriend neevr said a word about it. They didn't care, they both actually understood. I needed to hold Roo. I had to. It felt like he was taking away all my pain, all my hurt and my worry, all my anger all my everything into his arms. I didn't want to let go, I would of held him for the entire night if (actually I do not remember why we had to let go, but there was some reason).

Through the whole time though we hugged and he kissed my cheek and I just hung on him. I needed to cling to him, he made me better inside. (odd thing, he is a drinker amongst drinkers. I don't like the drinking thing......)

Anyway, so if mine wouldn't of been so darn persistant about being a jerk about the bar, I wouldn't of seen my Roo. I took pics of him on my cell phone and I was just so glad to see him, but even I knew that I had to wake up at 7a, so I needed to go sleep, but no, not my boyfriend, he was getting drunk for free and didn't want to leave, well that was it. we walked home after the first bar closed at 1am. got in a big argument and he told me basically he hated me, well disliked me intently. and told me to F off a lot. he said he had had it and blah blah.......he was leaving to go back to the bar and I was to stay here and go to bed and be alone. Then he walked out, last thing I said to him, ludly was that I love you. I sat on the couch and waited for him. he got back at 2:30a. Super duper drunker than ever. He was the "old nutt" as the old days would call him.

asked me why I wasn't asleep, he stumbled and knocked into things, barely speak straight. didn't matter. he told me that he was tired of stuff and I told him to get away from me then, ask Roo if he would take him for a week or two, see what it would be like without me. bring your meds, but I won't call, you take them or not, you remember or not, act like an dult or not, you decide. Never got an answer, just stumbled and fell. said I was going to bed. then I followed, left a path, made sure he could get to the bathroom if he needed to and that was it.

I am feeling right now........not sure, anger? fear? lonliness? emptiness? broken inside? Just waiting for the bipolar to take me one way or the other, waiting for the ride to begin.....................

bpd_bipolar
04-10-2007, 12:47 PM
Yesterday........we had a couple hour talk. Actually I was calmed by my valium. We listened to one another. We told one another that we love one another and that we want things to work.

We set up some new rules so to speak. We are going to live together.....but seperately. As in do things for ourselves. We both kept saying how we are trying to make the other one happy that we are making ourselves miserable. lol, ironic.

So.......right now I am actually calmed a bit, but I did take an anxiety (valium) pill. I was a little depressed, but came up to just blah. No particular reason either. Just a blah day for me thus far, no one did anything.

Anyhow, he said how he bites his tongue to me, but I told him, I bite my tongue to him too. He makes me angry, I want to yell at him and it slips out at times, but I clean up after him all the time and I am treated like a maid when his friends are over and stuff. I don't like it. I have to act a certain way. Then I get my surge in my bipolar and either become so depressed I want to cry or I become manic and want to scream n yell. Not healthy for me.

So, we are now doing things differently.

I will lay down when I am tired, I will try to fall asleep without him in bed with me. Hopefully it will work, but on the night before doc appts., he will come to bed with me at the time I want to go to bed. We agreed on this. We go to the bar and I want to leave to go home, I can and lay down and go to bed, not sure if I can mange it because he won't be here, but I can try.

Oh k.........

It is a start.

Bipolar/BPd for me and his ADHD/Bipolar for him be damned, we take our meds and we work through this, we both want to be together for a long time, he said it and I did too. We can do this. Work through our diseases........

I feel a little depression hitting though, so I am going to go before I slide down lower here.

marshmallow
04-10-2007, 09:20 PM
I hope your doing better today. Thinking of you.

bpd_bipolar
04-11-2007, 12:44 PM
Today....I am a little annoyed, but getting over that. Just tired and hurting physically a bit. My back is always in pain, but it is stiffer today. Weather I gather.

things with the boyfriend and I are all right thus far. I think I was going to snap at him earlier, but I am not sure if I stopped before I did or not. I think I did. I know I wanted to get done online because all he does is get annoyed with me when I am online. He doesn't like when I am online. It is oh k for him to be online, but me....nope. I have to be as quick as possible.

My bipolar tells me to (emotional side) jump up and yell, but rational side says no, calmly say I am working as I can. I will done when I get done, I can only go so fast, especially when you have me log off to use the phone and then I had to shut the computer down for a problem we had with it.

Oh k, enter wise mind. The middle ground....rational and emotional mind together = wise mind.

I think I might of been a little snappy though, not sure.

anyhow, other than that , I think things are oh k. Who knows anymore. He came to bed with me because he chose to. It was a little weird, he was gone for 6 hours yesterday, I was alone. Took 4 valiums total all day long. anxiety badly. wasn't handling things well for some reason. don't know why.

then had to take a head ache pill (amitryptilyne)...sorry about the spelling.... later on. I didn't really eat dinner, but he ate at his buddy's house. I was pretty bummed, depressed, but I talked to myself. told myself it was oh k. I was oh k. BPD.Bipolar be damned. I got through it fine. some times are easier than others being alone. Some times I can't get enough alone time and then there are a few times where it feels like hell. Strange. VERY strange. Haven't figured it out yet.

bpd_bipolar
04-12-2007, 12:33 PM
Last night. We went to the bar, he had 1 22oz. beer. no problem, all is oh k. then we got back and he played his game on the computer. it was midnight, he asked, after I said I was going to lay down if I would mind if he went tot he bar, I said well honestly, if he went I would probably go with him, he siad, well forget it then, he wouldn't go. I said, is that ohk, are you sure. He said, yes, it is oh k, he is sure. No problem, well I get into bed and no sooner thna that at 12:20a, he goes to the bar. He lied to me. He says he isn't lying, but it was a freaking lie, sounds that way to me anyhow, said he wouldn't go, no problem, then boom, waits till I am in bed and then goes.

SO, I get up and after 10 minutes, I go to the bar. Not to yell or drag him home, but to just go and be there. He asked me what I was doing there. I said just came for a walk. saw it was pretty dead in here so came in. He was drinking. he said I was coming home atfer this drink, well it had been 20 minutes, so his telling me before he left that he would be gone real quick was a lie too.

We came home about 12:52am and I told him to NEVER tell me anything to the effect that he would be quick about anything to do with the bar or leaving me again. I hate liers. I hate drunks.

He got the point, but still said he didn't lie. I didn't want to fight, I never raised my voice, I said it lightly and quietly, I just said, well are you in for the night? Then waited for him, then went to bed.
I fwell asleep around 2am which means laundry got done not at all this week AGAIN. Tomorrow I have to go to a doc appt. in the morning, so it won't get done unless I get up at 6am.

I should make him come to bed with me at 9pm tonight.

bpd_bipolar
04-13-2007, 01:53 PM
we went to bed at 10:15p. I fell out at midnight. I never got laundry done, but anyhow, my bipolar took over this morning badly.

I was yelling in the car, he was at home so it didn't matter that I was yelling and letting go of my anger. I am just so not on a good way today or in a good way today.

UGH, just gonna go.

marshmallow
04-13-2007, 09:56 PM
I hope tomorrow is a better day for you. I know it has to be hard dealing with the ups and downs but I know I cannot really imagine how hard it is. My thoughts are with you.

goody2shuz
04-13-2007, 10:27 PM
I also would like to tell you that I have been thinking about you. I am sorry that things are so tough. Did you talk to your pdoc about it and did he make any adjustments in your meds???

From the looks of it the stress of your BF's drinking and behavior seems to trigger yours. Perhaps if you just try to focus on you and allow him to focus on him it may be easier??!!:confused: I think he's a big boy and needs to assume responsibility for himself and then that will leave you able to focus on you.

I also think that if you were to do some things independent of your BF it would be a good thing for both of you. Is there something you could get involved in that might help??? What about attending a support group in your area....that way you may meet others who will understand some of what is going on and that will leave you less dependent on your BF. Just an idea I am throwing your way.

I hope you have a good weekend....I know that you don't look very much forward to them with all the visitors you have and the drinking/smoking that your BF does. But he needs to be able to control that and learn how to on his own....just don't become a co-dependent in the situation.

((((((HUGS))))))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
04-14-2007, 12:54 PM
No sleep overs anymore...thankfully, so that isn't a problem and now, well I guess he is teaching me to stay up later.......but last night he only had 2 beers and one shot (well a double shot), but that was it, he wasn't drunka nd wasn't mean. All good. Some drunk chick bumped into me while I was standing and talking to some one...I almost threw her across the bar room, but I didn't, just took her arm and helped her a little roughly but she thought I was polite..... away from me. I wanted to throw her and beat the hell out of her.

Then I went (I was sittin gon the end of the booth and we were with other people that his friend worked with, so I volenteered to get drinks for them, a pop and a beer....can handle it), walked to the bar, talked to my boyfriends friend and he went to get the drinks and I gave him the money and all, well the drunk chick, same one was getting in some guys face and hit him and I was near her and she was violent and I was standing there, waiting for her to hit me, if she would of I would of beat the heck out of her. I wanted a reason to beat the drunk. Take all the anger for all the drunks that I hate so much and beat the heck out of one..................BUT, she walked towards the door and I was behind her, so I was out of the line of fire so to speak.

I went back to the booth and gave them their drinks and that was that. Told my boyfriend that was the drunk chick I almost threw across the bar floor when she bumped her drunk butt self into me. Her name was the same as his ex wife too. Just perfect.

But he was fine, not a problem with him at all. We crashed at 2 something and I finally fell out at 3a. Of course I am up at 7 something and he is just woke up now at noon. MUST BE NICE.

bpd_bipolar
04-14-2007, 05:40 PM
Just sitting here for hours on end, alone. I have been rapid cycling horridly today. My boyfriend asked me earlier before I gave him a ride to his friends (he didn't feel like walking) what wa wrong with me. I told him. I can remember a silly, dumb few thigns I said to his friend verbatim a couple of days ago, but a simple thing I have done a few times over I can't remember how to do (back up my files on the computer).

I feel useless and I feel like others (his friend who openly makes me feel like an idiot in front of my boyfriend, who of course my boyfriend said that his friend does not do this) make me feel like an idiot because I repeat questions because I just can't grasp them after they are answered and shown to me how to do. I am just so depressed, then oh k, then I was even showing so much love for him on a **** today, then he snickered and I looked at him and asked him why he thought it was funny, then I said I know, I know it was to mushy........

UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just can't catch a break with my moods. I want to just curl up in a ball, but NO I am using my opposite to emotion here. I wonder if he;ll be back anytime soon, I have been tying up the phone line (we have dial up) for the past 3 hours being online as something to do. heh.......I have gotten so much done with getting pictures on my sites and stuff that he was mad about earlier this morning, but if he tried to call oh well, well I doubt he tried anyhow, he doesn't care.......but yes he does........damn bipolar/BPD. I want it to go away, I want us to be normal in the brain, to have what ever a normal relationship is.

WHY US???????????????????

Why can't we have the oh k without the screwed up diseased brains?????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????

bpd_bipolar
04-15-2007, 01:02 PM
Well, he came back just to leave 45 minutes later last night, but was only gone for a couple hours then we spent the rest of night alone. It was nice. Went to bed early. Had a couple of VERY nice times last ngiht.

It was ncie last night. Anyhow, today, I went from content to disappointed about a 'famous person'. It is just that this person told me how they are in it for their fans but obviously isn't, but I could of been the one bothering....who knows, I don't care actually anymore, I said my piece and that is it. So be it.

Oh k, well I am a bit up and down.

Off to end the online thing so he can go online. I am off to do my homework for my psych doc.

bpd_bipolar
04-16-2007, 11:52 AM
oh k, have to go, but wanted to check in. lots of back pain......need to go with b-friend to do laundry. he is helping.....nice of him. last night really, really great with him.

umm, about it for now. bipolar, well getting manic.

bpd_bipolar
04-17-2007, 01:01 PM
Let's see.......he was gone for a while last night. about 6 hours. after the day of running and b.s. I had of manicness I had and so many rapid cycling moments, gather he deserved a break.....

anyhow, now, well now I am just in back pain and getting depressed.

the end..........for now anyhow.

bpd_bipolar
04-18-2007, 12:22 PM
Things were oh k..........he just seems so 'not in a good mood', I mean he is always about me on this computer, MY computer. now that yesterday we are getting broad band, he will be the one on here and I will lucky if I can use my own computer.

Iw ill be putting my foot down and telling him that I will using my own computer.

He will be paying the bill for the broad band. I told him that. straight out because he wanted it so badly, but it is still MY computer.

Anyhow, all morning, EVERY morning all I hear is I want to use the phone, wah wah, get off the computer so I can use the phone. when we get the broad band he can be on the phone while I am online. he will be happy about that.

Now he can just plan to leave me earlier. oh boy.

my bipolar is kicking me hard in the head today.

I am hitting depression hard here. I was oh k, then he woke up and I then hit bottom, well am hitting close to bottom for no apparent reason.

he hasn't said anything to me to make me do it either, I don't understand.

If anything I talk about how he is good. Well I guess I am going to go and do other stuff here so I can go eventually, but eventually........I am going to tell him to ***** off, I usually do. about MY COMPUTER anyhow. when he can afford his own, then he can tell me different.

my back hurts bad, he is crying and whining about using the phone which he talks dead and I am stuck not being able to talk to anyone I want to.that gets me angry......an a*s.

I am running on about 3 1/2 hrs. of sleep.
Not doing to well right now.

goody2shuz
04-18-2007, 01:33 PM
BP/BPD ~ I am worried about you. Seems that something has triggered a relapse in your Bipolar and that you should perhaps call your pdoc ASAP so that it doesn't get too bad. The quicker you address it the better.

I think that your living arrangements really add much unneeded stress which we all know is not good for BP. I think that drinking and smoking relieves your BF's stress and using the computer relieves yours. He seems to think that he can go ahead and drink/smoke (which I feel is a more negative way to channel stress) and you use the computer to find support here or write to relieve yours which is more positive. You must not allow him to take away something that allows you to relieve your stress in a positive way. There has to be a compromise.....perhaps you can have some type of designated times that the computer is yours to use picking times when you most need to relieve your stress. I think that is fair enough being that it is your computer and you are allowing him to use it.

Most importantly, you must get your sleep and find ways that you can channel your anger and frustration in positive ways. See if you can make a list of how you might be able to do that. Journaling, taking a walk, listening to music, doing some exercising, taking a warm bath/shower, are some things you can do.

I am sorry that things are not going well for you....you are somewhat in control as to whether they will get better or worse by working with your pdoc and tdoc to either adjust your meds or formulate some better coping strategies to help you through the rough points like you have now.

We are here for you and you are in my thoughts and prayers ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

marshmallow
04-19-2007, 08:26 AM
I am sorry to hear you are not doing well. I wish I had some magic words but I don't. Just wanted you to know I was thinking of you. I do think your relationship with your bf keeps you in turmoil and you should realize that. Take care of yourself.

bpd_bipolar
04-19-2007, 02:02 PM
Thanks guys. Just tired..not sure why I am not getting enough sleep here. this week has just been lack of sleep. Need to speak to the doc about the sleeping pill part I gather.......I can't get the extra Ambien (used to take 2 of them)....but insurance won't pay for them.

Anyhow.....just want to cry..........all I feel like doing is crying...nothing to do with my b-friend today, just tired, want to cry and hitting depression.

write later or tomorrow..

bpd_bipolar
04-20-2007, 12:01 PM
I think I got more sleep last night than I did the two nights before, but not much. I need to talk to psych doc and find out what is going on if there is something going on with the meds. Maybe they are wearing off or something.

I am just so tired lately. the only thing that has changed is me doing the whole thing after my b-firned got that whole drunk scene and we changed to his way of things and our relationship is better now. I mean I stikll have my little out bursts, but he is mroe tolerant and I stay up with him later and all is cool. I mean I can go to bed if I want, but I still can't fall asleep without him...I keep trying........it doesn't work......sucks really bad actually.

Last night I think he actually tried, but to no avail, he didn't catch any hints I was throwing and Iddin't want to be outright get the heck in bed right now or I will hurt you.

Anyhow, I just want this done with. Why can't he just go to bed with me like he used to and then Friday night be the night we stay up late. It was so much easier, but then I was in control..........he had none so to speak and that isn't right...............he wants to be a big boy, a man.........so I am going to teach him how to be.

Slow process..............just really tired, sarcasm coming off my fingers instead of out of my mouth that man got up at 8:55a. then laid back down after he made sure that I was on the computer. See, we got that dumb broad band thing HE wanted. Well I was on the phone 7 different imes all day and night with those people yesterday and I talke dwith 7 different people. I was the calm one. I want to get the money back and not be charged..........he was angry with me because I wouldn't let him talk to them. I told him, you will not be rational, I will. I was so close to tears, but held it together for the purpose of not being stuck with losing money, MY MONEY.

anyhow, so a tech is supposed to be here between 8a-5p of course we can't let him inside or we get charged. if they check the outside line and it is fine, then oh k. we tlel him thank you and he walks. We are not charged and then that is it, I call and say, please take this back.

Poof, b-friend sad again..........WAHHH, not my problem anymore and oh freaking well. Then all the crap I went through can go away, right??????? well he is back laying down because he got out of bed while I barely get any sleep ever. ahhh poor thing.

I want to just scream.

Wait, here I go talking about my relationship.....my bipolar is nuts and BPD is real bad here, but relationshiop talk, that will get you kicked away............

Sarcasm again.............just this diseased brain of mine.............just need to rant get it out...........needs to go some where, this is my release, my doc says it is good to have one and mine is writing. Well, I write, I mean I have note books and journals, I mean I type here and then I will write in a journal and then a notebook for my doc. same day, variations of same stuff kind of.

you guys, well most of you guys are real cool about things here......goody, mars.........you've been the constants, dee I saw you once, I can't remember the other supportive ones, but thanks anyhow.

oh k.......gonna go. depression will hit when I get the pain out.......some how.
some way..........................ahhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

bpd_bipolar
04-21-2007, 12:55 PM
went to the bar last night. all oh k. then he went back, helped clean...oh k, no prob. then came back with 2 friends. not good. ended up staying up till 3:15a., well after they left then laid down at 3:45a. Fell out around 4 something am.

I was up at 8a. then fell back asleep till 10.

my body can't take this. he syas sorry for keeping me up. I told him for someone who says his gender has trouble apologizing, he sure says the words alot to me. he said nothing to that response of mine.

I physically can not handle this much mroe, I told him that. We talked yesterday and he siad to me that part of him hates to say it, but that he does want to leave at times, I said I have never held you here, you are free to go, I love you, I always will, know this, but you are free to leave, I understand, but you need to know, I have never had to deal with a bipolar/ADHD person so everytime I want to run away from you....I stand and deal with it. I write to get things out........he said also that I am the worst girlfriend he has ever had because all the other woman in his life had excuses of drinking or drugs, me, I have none.........he wakes and wonders what is it going to be today with me. what will I find wrong with the day today.

Today I told him, you know what, no need to guess today, today the problem is I am sick and tired of not being able to sleep more than 3 1/2 to 4 hours. there is today's problem and I got in the shower.

Also told him it makes you very emotionallly reactive if you get lack of sleep and a lot of other things too.

funny how he has bipolar and we are not experiencing the same symptoms.

oh well, he self medicates with drinking and drugs. he also takes his medications too though. ME, I take my scripts as prescribed and that is all. GO FIGURE, I go and do things right for a change and I am the one who suffers for everything.

I've given up so much now.

Oh yeah,. forgot.....................


THIS IS BIPOLAR/BPD feelings along with lack of sleep issues right now......just getting it all out so I don't do something stupid that I will regret.

that is what this forum is for, right???????? Come on guys, goody?? Marsh?????? help me here....................words of help, inspiration?????????

something??????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????

not leave him, I have no where to go. he has no where to go. I already know the whole he has the problem stuff, we haveall establishe this and I I am not being mean, I apologize if the words seem mean on the keyboard here, I am so exhausted here.................sooo tired, just need some sleep.

anyhow, just talk to me, I kep writing to myself here, come one, let me know how to get back my body of normalcy here. wait, ummm, normal sleep cycle???? something like that

martavee
04-21-2007, 08:01 PM
Hi bpd_bipolar.

My heart aches for what you are going through right now. Before I found out that I have BP 2 I dated someone that was BP type 1. Our relationship was quite destructive/chaotic.

Because of his condition I had a had a hard time accepting I suffered from the same, albeit slightly different.

My most serious/recent relationship was with someone that has a family history of BP. I find it a bit odd I was attracted to these people with the same disorder before I knew I was affected myself. Once I decided to take responsibility for this he wasn't supportive at all. The point of this blurb is that you need someone that supports you in your wish to being better. He's not doing that.

I know where you are coming from about needing a normal cycle. Insomnia = my enemy.

It's good that you're getting out all your feelings here. I made a crass decision a few months ago in a manic? state where I ended a good three year relationship. Le sigh. I wish you the best of luck.

teresa2007
04-21-2007, 11:39 PM
Maybe you 2 need to separate for awhile, get your head together, get some sleep:yawn: Do something for you for a change! break this cycle.
I hate to see you suffering like this. :) Tee

seashells3
04-22-2007, 12:25 AM
HI,
I hope you are sleeping better. I am BP also since age 19 I am now 38. I take anti-pschic(mispelled) for sleeping it helps alot.Also sleepytime tea, can help.

seashells3
04-22-2007, 12:26 AM
:) :) HI,
I hope you are sleeping better. I am BP also since age 19 I am now 38. I take anti-pschic(mispelled) for sleeping it helps alot.Also sleepytime tea, can help. Maybe U can resaet your body clock my Dr told me to go to bed by 9. I try around midnight. Also if you can go walking in the daytime it will help get You tired. It is really not good for me when I stay up till 3. I hope things get better for you. I also PRAY alot.

marshmallow
04-22-2007, 08:29 AM
People tell me if I want to change things then I have to do things differently so maybe Tee was right about you separating for a while just to see things from a different view.Change is hard but often needed. I just see you struggling day after day and wish you could feel some peace. Thinking of you.

bpd_bipolar
04-22-2007, 12:41 PM
First I want to thank all of you that posted for me. I know that last post was majorly irratic and sarcastic at most points amongst pretty rude (to those who have mentioned relationship boards to me).

To those who do not know......I have a severe problem of sleeping without my boyfriend, I was married for 5 years and even though he worked swing shift, well I was having trouble sleeping without him in the bed as well. Hence sleping pills entering my life. so, I have been taking sleeping pills (with the exception of my pregnancies) for 9 years. I take my 1 ambien (10mg.) n 1 seroquel (25mg.), well my boyfriend has this thing where I shouldn't have to have him in bed with me to sleep, it aggravates him actually n for 4 years he has been coming to bed with me whnever I want to go to bed so I can sleep (around 10:30p - 11:30p), I did not know this was a horrid thing until we had it out about it and I found out how much it bothered him, well I gather I can't do it anymore, so now it my turn I gather for the 4 year torture test as I call it. The past week has been hell on my body because he knows that I could neevr lay down with people over, that is an agreeable fact, so if he wants to stay up and play his computer game till 3am, then oh k, no one here, I lay in bed and he is up,then oh k. I am in bed. fine.

PROBLEM........I lay there, can't fall asleep without him in that silly bed with me. I was so exhausted yesterday that I couldn't function well at all. I couldn't go get his script for his cholesterol or anything. I was dozing in and out on the couch all day, but people kept coming over all day. I was a zombie from the lack of sleep. I felt horrid, I barely ate and I was just icky feeling, well last night it was 10:35p and I laid down, figured Iw ould pass right out, took my sleeping pills, even took 2 seroquels to knock me out mroe. NOPE. He said he would be in.....12:30am hits and I said, Listen, you have kept me up all week, you are th reason I am like this, FIX IT.

He came to bed and what normally takes me an hour to fall out with him in bed took me 5 minutes as soon as he laid down.

I only got about 5-6 hours, but that is oh k....bettter than 3 1/2.

I was fine until I got married, then everything went down hill. got a dissolusion. then got with my now boyfriend. it is just all over with any indepedence I ever had. I used to work, sleep alone, do a lot. I was fine, but I was undiagnosed and running a little wild and partying, I am getting old, I am old in my eyes and my body can't take it now. Reg. doc says I am healthy all the tests say so.......but I feel like crap. run down because of his staying up late and his habits. I am the clean up crew for him and shopper and the taker care of.

I love him. he loves me, but is it really enough.?????????

marshmallow
04-22-2007, 03:44 PM
Only you can decide if it is enough. (Love that is) Maybe you need more.

bpd_bipolar
04-23-2007, 12:27 PM
Last night was different, see everyday and night is different and I just never know what type of mood I will be in because of the rapid cycling and then what mood he will be in.

Guess it keeps it interesting...... ha?

Anyhow, a guy that I talk with that I went to high school with said to me last night you don't sound so good, I said yeah, lack of sleep thing and he said you sound like you're losing your mind, I said I just needed to vent and he said that you sound like you need to be away and I said, well I just need to get away for a minute here, but I just feel like I have to live up to something I may not be............I don't know anymore.

Maybe I am just confused.

Who know's............

I saw Roo last night and I was happy though. He makes me happy, when I see him. he is a person that I like to see, I can hug him and he hugs me. He gives me kisses on the cheeks and just lets me hug out my problems. he and my old man go way, way back. all is good with that don't think that there is a "cheating" thing there, there isn't.

Roo just makes me feel better even though he drinks horridly, he got out of the other drugs and that is a good thing, he has a girlfriend now and he is happy, but lives about 45 min. away from us now. don't see him much, but when I manage to, I just want to hold him to hug out my problems and it seems to work nicely. Roo understands and I think he talks to my old man and gets through my old man's thick skull at times............(that my old man doesn't listen to me). a guy thing, you know. Anyhow, Roo is MY friend and I have known him over 4 years when old man I got together when I was introduced, Roo n I automatically got along. Like I said he is a heavy drinker, but he is such a great guy. Nice to see him once in a while and he just makes me feel better. He makes me smile and takes my problems away with a good hug..............

to me, my old man should be able to do that...........THAT IS WHAT is weird.

oh well.

goody2shuz
04-23-2007, 12:41 PM
Hi, BPD/BP ~ I am sorry that I was not here when you were going through such a rough time. I was away with my brother who is very sick spending some time with him.

Anyway....from reading your posts it seems to me that you are a bit too dependent on your BF and perhaps others to make you feel good. You need to work on being able to see that nobody should become your source of happiness and that it all comes from within once you develop good self worth. You may need to work on that some more and as your confidence gets better and stronger you will be able to feel a little bit better about things.

I must admit....it sounds like in between the lines you are saying that your BF is not as supportive as he should be and he probably isn't. He probably is incapable of that being that he has his own share of issues to deal with. I think that you should work on being able to independently manage your BP/BPD because in the end that is what you should be able to do. Being dependent upon somebody often becomes draining and also inhibits the growth that you need to develop. I know that men really dislike somebody who is clingy and are more attracted to somebody who is self confident and able to stand on their own. I just saw a recent Dr. Phil and he said that it is very unhealthy when a relationship denies a person to grow individually and becomes focused upon being dependent upon the other for happiness or identity. You need to identify yourself separate from your BF....that is so very important. Otherwise you are just an extension of him......the best you can be for one another is your own being with your own interests and your own set of strengths.

I don't mean to say anything that may offend you but I think that you need to make it your priority to look at YOU and work on YOU instead of seeing you and your BF as needing to fix one another. The best support you can give one another is to focus upon what you need to individually work on otherwise you will forever be living as an extension of one another rather than two separate people who compliment one another.

I hope this makes sense.

Thinking of you ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
04-24-2007, 11:46 AM
I hear ya......actually I am trying to find out who I actually am.......

I do thank you for not being afraid so to speak to tell me that though.

Doc and I are working on it, just takes a lot of time, especially when you've been a part of something for over 9 years, I mean the whole wife thing and then the mom thing and then the girlfriend thing..........you know.......I hold inside the mom thing and I have to learn how to let that down and put it away.............all that stuff.

Anyhow, I hear ya and thank you.

Doesn't mean just because today is an oh k day thus far I won't break in about 30 seconds after I hit post....BUT right now I can understand.

:)

goody2shuz
04-24-2007, 12:13 PM
Good for YOU, BP/BPD (BTW we have to find a better name for you because we shouldn't refer to you by your disorders....there is sooo much more to you than that;) ) I am glad that you and your therapist are working on finding you.....it sounds like you have become an extension of your roles in life but not your own entity. You must find yourself and learn to be true to yourself before you can be a part of anything else....if you don't have a self to bring to somebody else it isn't good or healthy or wholesome.

You need to see yourself outside of your disorder as well. You have BP/BPD but you are not BP/BPD. You need to come to that realization and accept your disorders but don't identify yourself by them. So a good start would be for me to start calling you Butterfly....I pick that because you are emerging from a cocoon soon to become a beautiful butterfly.:blob_fire

So.....it's time to work on YOU. You need to be able to sleep on your own even if you get yourself a big stuffed animal at first....do not depend on your BF for sleep.....you have to be able to get the sleep that you need alone. So starting tonight you need to establish a bedtime for yourself. I say by 9:30-10pm you should be in bed. Can you do that???

Let's work on that for now.....going to bed at the same time each night and getting some good sleep. Sleep is sooo important to stability and you need to accept that as part of taking care of yourself and maintaining your stability.

We will talk some more....but for now work on sleep. Okay??? You can do it....I KNOW you can.:)

Love ~ Goody :angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
04-25-2007, 11:45 AM
Oh k....first, please don't call me butterfly.........if you need to call me something other than my screen name here, then just call me vamp. that is my nickname from god knows how many years back. you know, I can't even remember who gave it to me anymore, but it just stuck and it is what it is..........ty though for the thought. :)

Next.......been trying the sleep thing. boyfriend and I (it is part of our talk we had back when the whole thing happened) are doing that thing. I still can't sleep without him, I lay there. I keep trying, it still doesn't work. I refuse to eat more pills to sleep so I can just pass out. Isn't safe for me and I am not going to jeapordize my health for anything or anyone. (I know you're not asking me to.............PLEASE don't think I am being rude here, just SO TIRED, fell alseep finally at 1am and up at 4:19a then at 5 then at 7 then at 8:25a then got out of bed at 8:39a).

Anyhow, so I am trying.....just not working, not yet anyhow.

See, I do try things here. old man knows I try. It just isn't easy. you know, I keep blaming the fact I got married and all that part of my life with the kids and hubby. If that part of my life didn't happen (which I mean really, look now, it ends up being like it never did), then I wouldn't be like this.

So, in the end, I have nothing to show for it except a totally *****ed up co-dependency on a boyfriend who is b-polar and ADHD who needs me as much as I need him, but wants his freedom of movement and I am a convenience, but he loves me............UGH.

bpd_bipolar
04-25-2007, 09:22 PM
Hello.........oh k, so I am here. Sitting and typing on the computer of which I have the faster hitng here dsl or broad band whatever u want to call it, broad band technically.

I am tired, we napped actually and then we woke up after about an 1 - 2 hour nap for us and I said that I was so beat and he said that he was beat and then I told him if he would just go to bed normally and not stay up during the night and sleep all day long then he would be fine. that his body wouldn't be al messed up. I have stuff to do during the day and he has nothing and that screws me up, not him, so it makes no sense. He needs to just go to bed normally with me and then he would be fine. Then I could get normal sleep and I would be oh k and get stuff done and he would feel better and all that stuff.

Anyhow........so, he just walked away and didn't finish the conversation, but he didn't storm out or anything he went and was going to cook dinner, but still, he never finished the conversation.

Just annoying.

Right now he is at his friends.

Me, I have been sitting here, online just going around the net, doing anything I please online because I can. I will watch a tape of my soaps (all 15 minutes of them that is on the tape when I feel up to it). After that I have a phone call to make and that is pretty much it. He will get home when ever and not much else.

I'm tired. I can lay down, but it doesn't matter becuase if he comes back, he will bring someone back with him and if I actually manage to fall out, then I will just be awoken by the noise.

*Sigh*.

I need to do laundry.....it doesn't matter to him. See if he needed things done, then it would, but since nothing seems to, then it doesn't. I asked him in my daily email if he would go to bed with me tonight around 10:30p or 10:45p. Let us see if he does. I am up and down on my cycling with the BPD/bi-polar right now, but oh well............we'll see.

goody2shuz
04-26-2007, 12:59 AM
Vamp;) ~ I sure hope that you got some better sleep tonight and wake up all refreshed in the morning. I know that you are trying to help your BF with his sleep schedule but he is going to have to figure that out for himself....it's time for you to figure out a way to sleep without depending on HIM. I know...it isn't easy but you have got to keep on trying. I don't expect you to take more meds but perhaps one of your meds times can be changed to help you out. Do your think that one of them is keeping you up or you can take one closer to the time you go to bed so that it helps you out???? Also, there is a natural supplement called Melatonin that is a chemical your body produces to help with sleep that you can take to help out and it is okay to take with your meds because I checked it out with my daughter's pdoc and he said it is okay. It can be found in the vitamin section of your drug store and comes in 1mg and 3mg tablets. I took it myself to check it out and started with taking a half of a 3mg tablet. That seemed to work well enough and the good thing is that I was asleep within 20 minutes and didn't wake up groggy or anything. So you may want to give it a try.

Well...I just wanted to check in to tell your that I am thinking about you and hoping that tomorrow you will wake up to a good day.

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
04-26-2007, 11:56 AM
Thanks.

I still waited up for him, then he got here late of course.......total disregard for anything I said in my email.......I don't know, maybe this just isn't right, maybe this isn't for me, my self.

Again, my best time was un-medicated and un-treated/diagnosed and just working second shifts at a job I loved doing (monitoring alarms) and being independent. BUT I know I NEED to be medicated and NEED to have my doc and all that stuff, so that won't change. I just need to figure things out.

I can swear all I want that the old man is my soulmate, but unless something changes here, maybe I have to love him enough to let him go for my sake because if not I am going to end up hurting someone and I can't back slide more than I have for myself.

Love sucks some times.

Oh well. Not much else to do........except the laundry that never seems to get done....one more day here.

bpd_bipolar
04-27-2007, 10:17 AM
Well, last night, it was quite amusing as I pretty much gave up on being nice about things and just plain stopped. I have been trying like crazy to be adjusting to all these new things we are trying and I just said you know what....I've been doing my part, you can see that, please come to bed. It is 10:08p. Please just come to bed. I mean we didn't end up gong to sleep until around 11 something anyhow, but we were in bed and that is what mattered and I have the laundry in and I will be going to switch it to the dryer in a little bit here and then grabbing our topamax and then getting milk and the stuff I used to do in the mornings before I got all derailed.

See, I actually stopped doing for him, and said a little bit of my own words and he just pretty much saw it..........

anyhow, have to get moving, even with broad band..........

back hurts like crazy...of course lifting a full...real full clothes basket will do that to you....................I just hope he stays in bed through this whole thing.

bpd_bipolar
04-28-2007, 11:33 AM
*sigh*, well, it was Friday night last night and we crashed at 2a. I fell out at 2:30a and got up at 6a. (=3 1/2 sleep).

He was on the computer. Not from drinking........that is a good thing, actually since they put cameras in the bar.........YAY cameras..........not drinking, barely at all. I am so happy about that. like I got some magical wish answered or something.

NOW it is the computer, SO I look for something though??? I mean honestly here guys.........do I look for things???

I got the laundry and stuff done yesterday so that is all good, but now I am running barely and so darn tired....but maybe my body witll just get used to it???? Who knows.

We talked about it last night, trying to figure out why I can be on the couch druing the day and doze a little while he is on the computer and me in the livingroom. I know in my brain he is in here and I am in there. But at night, it's like a switch flips and I have to have him there in bed with me. Something just clicks over.

Anyhow, my bipolar hasn't flipped out yet. I hope it doesn't. I am trying real hard to stay mellow right now, no reason to flip out. no stressors yet. Nothing. He just got up. I've been up.

So far, so good........Hope it stays this way. PLEASE....just no triggers today.

marshmallow
04-29-2007, 10:47 AM
While I understand you wanting him in bed when you go to bed you cannot control a grown mans bedtime. I feel like your life revolves around him too much and that is not really healthy for either of you. What else do you do together besides the bar? Do you take walks, shop, go out to eat, go on picnics, etc? I am not being critical but I know what can happen when a women's life revolves around a man. You can lose who you are and just try to please them all the time. I wish you well.

bpd_bipolar
04-29-2007, 12:30 PM
Actually, he pretty much goes to his friend's house. He'll walk (I am the one with the license and it's my car). I am the one who will stay in if I chose or I will be the one who runs out by myself. I have to practically pull his teeth to get him to leave with me unless it is to go to a doctor's appt. (which I make them for both of us, because we see the same doc's, so the appts. are at the same times or like for our psych docs, I see the doc for an hour, then he goes in next for 1/2 hr.). That is it.

We might see a movie, but we really can't afford to go out and do anything.

The bar is something we walk to and now that they have camera's in there he can't drink for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!! (hey, I will be happy about it for a long time now!!!! but his friend now gives him chips, which can get him free drinks)

Anyhow, back to what I was saying here. Point is we walk there and that is it. We are in the house together, but in seperate rooms at what seems to be 1/2 the day, if he is here.

So.......I don't think we spend as much time as people think we do really. Something is just hard wired in my brain that I have to have him in my bed to sleep. He came to bed at midnight 09 for me last night so I could get some sleep. I put my foot down actually and I am going to have to do that from time to time I gather.

I am trying to fall asleep on my own........sucks that I can't but maybe if I keep at it, I will be able to. Who knows?? Can only try, that is all.

Anyhow.....hope I answered the question and didn't ramble off the subject or anything.........lol.

marshmallow
04-29-2007, 01:18 PM
My husband and I are separated and he always says that the part he cannot take is sleeping alone. He says he needs someone there so maybe your not the only one that feels that way but because of his behavior we had to separate.
I don't know much about bars but what does a camera have to do with drinking free?

bpd_bipolar
04-29-2007, 09:56 PM
Well, at the bar, my old man's friend gave him free drinks. We don't have the money to spend, so he would have to drink for free, hence him getting drunk (me not liking the drinking/drunks)......well his friend would keep giving him drink after drink after drink....(you get the point), well the cameras monitor everything there, so no one can give out drinks or do anything illegal like that. The person would lose their job.

So, he can't get free drinks now and therefore does not drink........which is a good thing for me.......his friend will once in a while give him a chip (he will come over and do it at our place), which a chip is basically a free drink pass to use at the bar in place of money, so you hand it to any bartender and they have to give you a free drink....but it is legal to do.......so therefore, nothing illegal is happening and everything is above board.

He drinks a lot less and a lot less often. Works for me.

That is why I am in a better mood about it.

Point being, the drinking is a better thing now and now all him and I have to figure out is the sleeping thing. I did take a cat nap on and off for about an hour today on the couch while he was in the office this afternoon, so that was a good thing........but, what are you gonna do.

marshmallow
04-30-2007, 08:28 AM
I get it now. I didn't know the friend that gave him drinks worked at the bar. Maybe things will be better with him not drinking. I hope so for your sake. Take a teddy bear to bed with you. lol just joking and sorry because it may not be funny to you. I know how you feel about going to bed without him.

leomia
04-30-2007, 11:04 AM
Bpd, I can totally relate.
I am BP, and not that it really matters because what I am going to say I think I would feel if I wasn't.
My hubby would drink and drink all the time. He has cut down significantly but now its the computer games. SO I am still all alone.
And we also have NO money to hang out and do things together. I cant get him to hang out with me. We could take a walk or a picnic when its nice, but last time we had a picnic he insisted on getting wine all the time and we spent way too much and did not have enough for food that month. It really is that tight.

So now its the games, and he has to be coming back to bed all hrs of the night. I also need him there to fall asleep at the very least you are supposed to give your wife some attention ya know?

Well that part of my life barely exists because I feel like he doesnt care if it does. (what kind of guy thinks that?)

and I have these talks with him and he seems so understanding and willing to change or help me out in whatever i need then the next day says, I never said that!

Its so confusing and an emotional roller coaster.
I know I am hard to live with but at least keep your word, ya know?

well I guess we are similar in that respect. I am glad the bar got cameras for its sake as well as yours!
But you guys need to do things to hang out together to improve the relationship - we all need that in relationships. so when money is tight time to be creative but you need that other person who is 50% of it to do their part.

very frustrating I know!
good luck!
Hang in there
:angel:

bpd_bipolar
04-30-2007, 11:43 AM
Marsh- things are open with us, I mean we communicate. we talk all the time. one of our good things, you know. I mean I kind of instilled that and even though some times he doesn't like it, I push it and he does follow the lead if I do it the right way. We communicate every day......... just think we mght of actually figured something out last ngiht, but I think I might of screwed up things again though, not sure. I mean I think I twisted things back to where I am controlling him again.........not my intention. I don't want to be the 'mom', I want to be the girlfriend, that is who I am. I am not going to be the door mat though. I felt like that last night. I want to smack him for acting like he did and I can't, but doesn't mean I can't "not feel it inside". just teh bipolar/plus the way he acts like a kid. go figure............anyhow, at a few points I am the one starts to think, money or love, which one do I want to deal with more..........I chose love over money.......left my hubby, even though our marriage was pretty gone. but thought love was mroe important to me and now look at me. gee, how happy am I (feel the sarcasm). anyhow, thanks for the words.



Leomia- U n I......well we have our similarities with both the bar n the computer games. Don't get me wrong, there is no constant drunk, but it was drunk once in a while and now it is computer 97% of the time. the ******* page of his. not doing anything wrong on there, just loves the darn thing. counts his bands on there, wants to see how many bands add him and every second he is checking to see if a friend is adding him. literally. he will sit here and stare. Nice life. He will leave as said in before this post by me, check that post out.

Anyhow, I feel the headache creeping in now. Nothing u guys did, just me, my body. bipolar now comes with lovley side effects........starting to wonder if I have something more than a small brain inside of my head growing.......kind of scares me from all the emotions that get pent up.

leomia
04-30-2007, 12:11 PM
Bpd,
well definitely dont be a door mat. you have to say what draws the line. Marsh knows! And you will feel better because of it. Someone has to stick up for you. Can you tell him how annoyed you feel with no attention? I mean your not even married yet (if you ever wanted to be whatever...) and already your not hanging out and doing fun stuff that couples do. I guess for me I felt like I had more fun before I got married , in the sense that we hung out and did stuff. Now its so pathetic. I love him and its not his fault he is a computer geek. He is playing games online with other people around the world and I tried to act interested I did, (only so he will act interested when I want to talk about something I like) But I cant do any 'hobbies' as it all would require money. Well I can read but not all day long that is ridiculous!
so as for that page, that sounds so lame I don't see what the attraction is, these people who add you don't even know you! I have a few friends who are into it, me, I would rather do something useful , or make REAL friends! ( I hope that didnt offend, if so sorry!!!!)

and dont give your happiness up, you can still find it!!! Because if you 2 can work it out and be on an understanding then it should be ok if you genuinely love e/o right? I hope for your happiness!
take a nice advil and feel better. BP can cause Headaches with stress of thinking of things that piss us off! :)
take care!

bpd_bipolar
05-01-2007, 12:09 PM
I hear ya. but, we have been together for over 4 years now and it has taken us time, well that long actually to find how we are doing things with one another, I mean we have done things together....all the time and that just isn't us. Our psych doc sais it is time where we need, well I need my independence back. SO.....I need to take small steps, and be alone.

This is why he goes to his friends and he is gone for 2 hours up to 8 hours....he will call me and check in on his own, which I think is nice of him.....or if we set a time for him to be back, he is.....pretty cool, but there will be that one or two times that he is a little late, but he'll call or try to (well try is not the word, he has gotten reall 99% better at things).

He is afraid deep down that if he leaves when I am depressed that I might do something stupid, so he calls to check up on me or he is super punctual.....nice of him, but he doesn't want to get sucked into my void.

May 4th...coming up is my daughter sarah's b-day.......LONG STORY, not going into it, but I don't have my kids (yes, 2 of them, older daugher, Selena be 9 Nov. 13th-2007 n Sarah will be 6 May 4-2007), not sure if he will stick around here that day, which is Friday.

I don't know how I will be that day, if I will cry or freak out or what I will do.....not sure if he will go to his friends or try to drag me out of the house or what he will do...........some times he wants me to be alone and cope with stuff and some times he doesn't want me to suck him into my depression, well that is just pretty much it. He told me that he wakes up each morning and thinks "hey, Iwonder what will it be today".

love him so much. you know some times I think, 'hey, I wonder how much money I can save if he wasn't around".

oh k, well I am off of here for now.

leomia
05-01-2007, 12:26 PM
Bpd, not sure I am understanding what you meant. Why do you have a hard time when kids are around, do they just stess you out and you cant take it is that why you dont get them full time, and does your BF get stressed out that you are stressed with the kids?

Also If your having issues at least he is calling and giving you space that is good of him to be considerate like that. But why do you say you wonder if you can save any money without him? Do you not want him around by saying that or is he a drain on finances or what?

Maybe you can explain better. Well hang in there! take care! :)

goody2shuz
05-01-2007, 02:00 PM
Hey Vamp aka BPD:wave: I am glad to see that you are coming to some realization that you and your BF need to work on your individuality knowing that it is unhealthy to live totally for another person. Your uniqueness and individuality of strengths, weaknesses, interests, talents, gifts are all sooo very important to present when it comes to relating to anybody else whether it be as a friend, daughter, mother, or girlfriend. And it is also important for your BF to bring in the same when it comes to a relationship. I think that you are beginning to see that and that is a good thing.:blob_fire

Leomia...Vamp decided with her exhusband that it would be in their kids best interest to place them up for adoption....a very difficult and loving thing to do realizing that they would be better off. She cannot forget them as any mother would agree so the monumental moments in their lives are understandably very difficult for her. I am sure that she will explain more about that but it is hard for her so I thought I would give you an idea so that you would have a better understanding. Also, I believe her BF doesn't work or have much of an income which puts most if not all of the financial burden on her....Vamp I need you to clarify this for us, is it that your BF can't work or doesn't want to work?? Is he eleigible for or has he applied for Social Services Disability Income and how about you??? Are you able to work....you don't mention anything much about a job so I thought I would ask.

I know that you are struggling day to day with all that your diagnosis entails but I think that you are doing a pretty good job of it. You are very much self aware of what is going on and it's just a matter of coming up with some ways of facing the issues and putting the stress down to a minimum in order to go through the difficulties that come your way. I hope to see you coming up with different ways of developing a sense of self outside of your BF because I think by doing so you will find a healthier balance of self worth and coupleness. I know you can do it....I see how strong you are and what a great person you are who wants to manage things as best as she could with the resources available.

Have you ever considered joining a support group in your area. I think that would help out in terms of being with others who could support you and take some of the expectation you may have of your BF being your main source of support when he has his own issues to deal with as it is. Just a thought I am throwing your way. And what about a hobby....can you get yourself out there and join a class of some sort where you will be around other people??? Or volunteering to help out with children....I know that you miss your daughters but perhaps by giving to other kids you may fill that void you are feeling in your life.

Okay....just brainstorming here...I just would like to see you looking at positive things for YOU that will strengthen your self awareness and allow you to identify your strengths and purpose in life. I think you can do it and it may just be what you need to do in order to turn things around in your life.

((((HUGS))))) and cheering you on ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
05-02-2007, 12:12 PM
Goody, ty for letting leom know about the girls, well the jist of it anyhow.

I do not want to be around kids.......I mean do not get me wrong, his friends have kids, one of his friends has a 16 or 17 month old (I forget), I can only handle it so long before the memories rush back and I begin to cry or break down. Just to many memories for me. I don't want to deal with that pain. No point putting myself through it........so I try to stay away from spending to much time with little ones. I mean my friend Kim has a 9 (I think....or 8, something......basically her kids are basically the same age as mine are......) and a 5 year old......I am not really sure..........but the point it is that I don't spend much time around them because it gets to me.

As for around this area for groups, been there for years and done that......as soon as I left the group because I pretty much did all I could do in it (4 years of it, my psych doc (which I had no idea, it was ironic) stopped running it and now someone else is (teaching the same things.........the Marsha Linehan stuff I tell you guys about.

I do the work sheets still (doc and I work on stuff to hopefully better me so to speak).............

Ummm, hobbies.........I just have music, but that is something that I have pushed into a business (which I make no money, so is it really a "business"?) for almost a decade, but I calim it to be something even though it isn't....I will keep trying to make it something.........so I am persistant on that.

We are both on SSD.

My girls: Goody told it pretty much as it lays. My ex-husband and I gave them up for adoption. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life. I love them more than anything on this earth and I hope that one day, when my oldest hits 18, she hits 9 this year, that I get a call on my cell phone saying hey, where do u live. I want then to find me, I want them to yell or scream or ask why or something. I'll take a smack or anything. I have the baby books, the photo albums, everything I could keep. I try to get through each day and I miss them like crazy. Selena was almost 2 and Sarah was only 8 months.

There u go, hoped I answered your questions.

leomia
05-02-2007, 12:20 PM
bpd, wow that must be so hard for you! Are they allowed to know why?

well good luck to you and I am sorry you have such an enormous sadness going on!
Here are big ((HUGS)) from me!

bpd_bipolar
05-03-2007, 10:19 AM
It is all on if the "parents" tell them. anyhow, ty for the concern there, but I just can't get past calling them my girls...........kind of sad sounding, but I gave birth to them and that is just the way it is.

Tomorrow is Sarah's birthday. 6 years old. like a countdown. But, it's cool, we have our doc appts. today. in about 45 min. we leave for the family doc, then have a little bit of a break for lunch inbetween. then we go to the psych doc.

did it on purpose this way, day before and all.....her b-day.

waiting for my breakdown, happened for about 2 minutes on the 1st I started cleaning uncontrollably...then I just stopped, dead in my tracks.........told myself I couldn't do this, I sat and just took breaths and that was about that. went back in and sat with my old man in the office while he played his computer game (he does not play online games, just the offline games).

anyhow, see, I don't do the crying thing in front of him unless there is no possible way to hold it in...........I mean NO POSSIBLE WAY at all on earth.

he knows it, I tell him, he just says to me, you can't change the past, you have to live in the present, each day as it comes.........

oh k, off to the docs.

leomia
05-03-2007, 10:32 AM
Well it sounds like you are managing and coping the best you can! :bouncing:
and if you gave birth to them then they are your girls you're just not actively the mother and I hope someday they will find you.
My brothers ex wife was adopted and she went and found her parents when she was 18. (she herself is a royal pain and then some so I wont get into that...) :yawn:

anyways it sounds like you guys plan what you need to and are hanging in as best you can and thats all you can do, and if you feel emotion then of course that is normal. As long as you know you do all you can to stay happy and healthy! :angel:

:)

goody2shuz
05-03-2007, 12:17 PM
Hello....seems like you have most of this under control. Thing is, you shouldn't feel bad if you get upset tomorrow...you have made such a sacrifice and truly loved your girls enough to allow them to have a better life with another family who would be better equipped to raise them. I never asked but did they place your girls together???

Tomorrow will be a difficult day for you....I would see if you can do something that will somewhat take your mind off of things. What about taking in a movie with your BF??? There are lots of them out....if they still have Wild Hogs out I heard that it is quite funny. Try to get out for the day even if it is to get a bite out to eat and break up the everyday routine. Do you think you can ask your BF if he can do that for you???

I will be thinking of you tomorrow....you are a great mother who did what not many mothers could have ever done and for that you should be commended. I pray that one day your daughters WILL find you and show you that what you did was right for them.

Be good to yourself and if you are having a difficult time come here and surely one of us will help you through. I will be out most of tomorrow but promise to check in as soon as I get back. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers and have you tucked in my heart knowing how difficult a day it will be for you tomorrow.

((((HUGS))))) to help carry you through ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

leomia
05-03-2007, 12:22 PM
BPD,
I agree with Goody, those are good ideas. She is full of great advice!

:)

:wave:

Awww, Goody that was so sweet of you ! :angel:

PS I have a question on one of the meds if you can hop on my thread soon I will post it there ...

bpd_bipolar
05-04-2007, 12:11 PM
As I sit here, full of thoughts of what if's from time to time.....even though I knowI did the right thing, I still can't help but wonder what are they doing now.

What is my youngest girl doing on her 6th birthday, right at this moment, is she in school, will she show up back at her house to a party this afternoon and what shall she receive for gifts? Will there be balloons? What does she play with? What toys does she like? I have no idea because she was only 8 months old when she was given.....to those who take better care of her.

What about my oldest daughter, is she taking care of her sister, are they close? Is she protective of her younger sister, she was so close to her when I was pregnant with her........after I ahd her she wanted to hold her, to feed her, to help with her. She was only about to turn two when she was given with her sister to those who could take better care of her as well.

I mean it has been so many years........7 years this year...........I can never forget my girls.....I will never forget, I love them so much I gave the altimate sacrifice, most of heart, part of my soul to make their lives better. A mother who loves so much broke her own heart by being so selfless.........but I am no martyr, I am nothing, but someone who thought of her children first, who wanted them to grow up without the chance of being around any Bipolar or BPD, yes, genetics are genetics, but their father had nothing mentally wrong, so the 50/50 split is there and they are being raised and I hope raised happily..........maybe they can turn out without the yelling out of no where for no reason (that is all that I was concerned about, I loved them so much, but I would yell for no reason......silly, huh. I gave my girls up for adoption because I would yell at them for no reason, I felt that if they were around me they would think that yelling was the correct way to get things in their lives and that is not correct, so I and my husband at the time decided that it would be best that they be raised by a loving couple who didn't yell at them for no reason to take care of them..........).

I hold a pure darkness inside on anniversary dates of their birthdays.

I miss them everyday. I love them every second of everyday.

Happy Birthday to Sarah today, on her 6th borthday.

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Had to ge tthat out. Oh k, well umm, yes, they did place them together and at one point I lived 10 minutes away from them. one day my ex (before we were ex's took me by the house, but I can't remember where it is, which is a good thing).........but I just know they were about 15 minutes away from where I live right now....not sure if they moved though. Anyhow, I think I am oh k.....boyfriend is being supportive in his own way, I feel the tears well up, but nothing has come out yet......I want to cry, I feel it build to the point where the tears are wanting to drop, but I seen to just take a breath (plus the valium I took) and they stay inside, Iw ill cry I am sure, but I think the writing's have helped me. I even wrote a music **** and a happy birthday a bunch of times to her. think it made me feel better doing that. Who knows, maybe we should scrounge up money to see a movie or something. or walk the mall or something. I might ask him if he wants to. Thank you guys.

~Me

leomia
05-04-2007, 12:39 PM
Good luck ! I know this must be hard, but you sound like you are holding up as well as anyone could expect, even better than that!
It is good to write and get feelings out if it helps! relax a bit and do something fun to take your mind off of it.
But I am glad they are placed together ...

:)

bpd_bipolar
05-05-2007, 01:13 PM
I got through yesterday, all though it was the longest day of my life, or so it seemed since we didn't go to sleep until after 2am because Friday nights are the "late night". we did the bar thing, someone bought him one beer, which was fine and I socialized, which was a good thing...........but I was so tired.......and there were people over, drunk people............UGH, but I knew that if I just let it go, that it would be over soon, it was kind of amusing because I kept gently kicking him as I sat on the couch and him on the floor, he caught the hint I wanted them to leave and they finally did at 2a.

Oh k, have to eat, my head is wanting to ache..........

goody2shuz
05-05-2007, 03:50 PM
Dear ME:D ~ I am sooo proud of you....you got through the day and you did like a champ. What you thought about and felt is all perfectly normal....I am a mother and believe me, probably would have done the same exact thing and be feeling pretty much the same way so PLEASE do not feel bad or guilty....your heart is aching for your girls and wondering if you did the right thing by them. I KNOW you did because usually the best things that happen in our lives take GREAT sacrifice. And what more of a sacrifice is there than a mom to think about her children's best interests even if it means giving them up. I am sharing in your pain but want you to know that I really believe that one day your will see the rewards of your sacrifice when your daughters show you what happy and fulfilling lives they lead.

How are you doing today??? I hope that you are enjoying some of the great weather that we are having. I suggest that you go out and get some flowers....even one hanging basket that you can have to look at for the spring/summer season. I got a few to put out on my dack....I even put together a flower pot that is about two feet in diameter and planted a few different plants and it really looks beautiful and brightens my day.

Well I just wanted to come and check in on you and let you know that I am here thinking about you. You were in my heart all day long yesterday and I was sending positive ***** your way hoping that they were helping you through the difficult day.

((((HUGS)))) and happy thoughts being sent your way ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
05-05-2007, 03:57 PM
Well, he is at his friends, he has been gone for....wow, been 3 hours or a little more now. Me, I ate lunch, been at this computer, not even realizing it.....been trying to get offline for the past 2 though, but new messages keep popping up and I go to answer them then one thing leads to another and I am then off on a page randomly.........BUT this is the last page (so I hope), then I will take some ME time. I think I need it.

Didn't go to bed until 2am a little after last ngiht actually, but can't remember if I typed that above.....trying to get moving so not bothering to look above.

Oh k, well thank you for posting, goody and so far, so good........who knowsx, maybe I can go break down and cry now. I think I have been holding it in long enough to try to be "tough".

A good cry is something that migh actually relieve some stress and my headache that I think is trying to peak out from my left temple. Maybe I am starting to bottle up my pain of my girls again and be tough, so while he is gone, I have free reign to lay down or to let go..........maybe I should.

Take care.

bpd_bipolar
05-06-2007, 12:07 PM
Tired and sore.......story of my life. Actually laughed for a moment, well a smile...half smile that turned intoa kind of a smile, I think..........point is is that I am oh k for now. Nothing that has depressed me yet.

Good thing. Let me see how things go today. I might be back.

bpd_bipolar
05-07-2007, 12:22 PM
last night wasn't bad. we hung out, staid in and just relaxed a bit. his friend came over and it was oh k. I was oh k I gather. I got a bit manic. I have found myself going from (3 months ago where I took no valiums - maybe 1 to 5 valiums a month to taking 2 valiums a day now this month)..........................

I am just stressed and need to be calmed from my mania which is part anger and part worked up over nothing so to speak.

he has to tell me to calm down and if I don't then I need my "time out" which is me being told by the old man to calm down and be quiet, then I listen and realize that I am manic. I sit quiet for 5 - 10 minutes and I am calm again.

I take deep breaths and all if better, for a little bit, but it drives him a little batty in the process. Not sure if all of our prgressis back sliding.............hope not.

Oh k, well we are going out today with a friend, the friend is driving, yay I get a break from it. taking a scenic drive in 70 degree weather to a nice place. only about a couple hour thing, but it isn't couped up inside you know.

~Me

marshmallow
05-07-2007, 08:03 PM
In an earlier post you said you hold back tears its ok to let them go tears have a way of cleansing the soul. I wish I had been on to comment earlier when you needed so much support but Goody always knows what to say and I am thankful she was here. Leomia is a sweetie too and always has kind words and is understanding. I hope your feeling better now. Thinking of you.

bpd_bipolar
05-08-2007, 11:26 AM
marsh, you help me out too you know......... :)

I am trying to help out others on the board too. I posted for a seroqueol post, read about something in it and kind of typed a bunch to give advice, hope I did some help for them.

Anyhow, today I am tired, but I think I am oh k. feeling inside, well just drained. don't think I am sad.....haven't given myself time to be sad, not yet anyhow...........

I'll drop back in if I am though, you know that.

thank you guys though and marsh, you better still help me out. I like when you do, it's nice to have as much support as I can get and besides everyone says things different and everyone has different things to say. Makes for more interesting ways to make me smile at times......yes, at times it actually helps me get centered and smile at times.

geez, now you know a secret......I am so busted.

oh k, off to take a valium, not doing to well with some soreness here...........

marshmallow
05-08-2007, 08:13 PM
I am glad you are not sad today and hopefully your not as drained. You made me smile when you said now we know your little secret. Take care I'll be back.

bpd_bipolar
05-09-2007, 01:12 PM
I am finding that trying to help other people on here is some times not the right thing to do as I think I make things worse.........

oh well, maybe I will just come back and stay in my own post.

Starting to get a headache here and tired, but feeling emotionally oh k this morning when I started out, but now, well now I am a bit blah........not sure what triggered it. guess I will be "something" at some time in the day.........

leomia
05-09-2007, 03:17 PM
BPD why did you say you make things worse if you are trying to help? well I have been away sorry.
Not away as in vacation just not on here other stuff to do ya know how life gets in the way. I am glad you were able to get your mind off stuff the other day and feel a bit better.
Marsh said something good about how tears help you release the bad enegery and cleanse the soul.
Not too much you will have a headache! But your body knows when you need to cry.
Maybe you feel it is draining on you to try and help? I guess I see that I sometimes get that way and others I feel it helps me to help someone if I am helping,. well I try.... I am busy missing home and on sites of moving and planning to guess how much rent we will pay and all that nonsense... even though it could take a while I am too much of a plan way a head type of person... oh well :wave:
ok take care !

goody2shuz
05-09-2007, 04:48 PM
Hi, Vamp....yesterday I was going to post telling you how great it is to be seeing you reaching out to others here on the board. I saw your posts and think that they were very informative and even though the original poster hasn't acknowledged it doesn't mean that it wasn't of any value. In fact I believe that the original posters haven't even seen them yet. Fact is, your reaching out and the more you do the more you will be helping yourself as well. So PLEASE don't stop doing so....I am happy to see that you are doing so.

You actually seem to be doing better than usual, I can see it in your posts,...seems that you are more self aware which is a good thing. So don't take the lack of response personally....keep on posting so that others get to know you. You have alot to share and offer to others. Besides, I find that helping others helps me too and I am sure that you will find that out for yourself as well.

I have been thinking about you hoping that things continue to improve with you.

(((HUGS))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

marshmallow
05-09-2007, 07:53 PM
Oh, don't feel like your not helping people. I read your posts and they were really very well written and helpful. I always feel no one is reading what I write then someone will mention it much later when you least expect and say it helped so don't stop posting.

bpd_bipolar
05-09-2007, 09:14 PM
Thanks guys. It is that some times that I get the feeling that I feel like I say the wrong thing when I get sorrected, but I just mention the things that I know, you know what I mean.......the things that I go through and that is all I can do for others.

Just go off either experience or off of what I have seen people close to me go through.

Now I sit here and deal with idiots of his (his little friend (the 27 eyar old, he sin't 25...but that doesn't make the know it all thing within him any better).....but now I will go and deal with it all.

leomia
05-09-2007, 10:35 PM
Feeling any better today?
And Marsh is right - even I read stuff and it doesnt sink in till later or I skip something accidentally or it doesnt "pop" out at me. But I know you posted on my thread about seroquel. I have been bad about this board lately. Been doing other things that wont happen for a while (daydreaming about moving home and the like!)
But I asked for info on what meds did so you gave them and that was all I asked but that is all you can do. No one wants to have you make up stuff, so of course you can only help on what is been your experience ya know? we all have that.
Main thing is if we are all here for each other here and that is great. SOmetimes I dont know what I would do. Lately I am falling apart because I am sooooooo homesick (did I mention that?) so I am hypothetically planning how much we need to move and how long it will take but I cant really plan since I have no idea how long hubbys visa will take. It cant take too long, he has been stateside before, lived there, and we did not get a re entry clearance. Oops! (Big oops!) so have to do this dumb thing again. But have been maried 3 1/2 yrs so its the less than 2 they scrutinize... either way my head is in the clouds and I am really sad and mad at the same time and get taking it out on him and dont know why so I have felt not right in giving advice If I am in a bad state.
well so now I am trying to catch up little by little and check in instead of advise since I need my own but am being too lazy to start a thread as I dont know what to say. (ya cant make me up, could ya? I am silly I know! and then some!)
Oh well hope all you gals are doin good?
talk later
:)

bpd_bipolar
05-10-2007, 11:40 AM
ty for posting and lettting me know you are oh k and I still thank everyone for being here to post to me.......I just don't mean to tell anyone stuff and then they correct me when I am on the meds that I know for one thing...........but the med is used for 10 other things, but I am only taking it for one specific thing and only am allowed that one specific dose, you know? I just tell what I know about me taking the dose for what I take it for, that is why I try to tell everything in the post, but it drags out and people skip over things when they read and they don't even know who wrote it and then it's like, why didn't u even look at my name and refference me...........UGH.

Anyhow, today I am having the boyfriend, yes you heard correct help me with laundry and food shopping. He is coming with me. He is oh k with it and I am kind of wondering why, but I don't care and am not asking, think he is trying to meet me half way on things to work on our relationship and I love him for that so much. I know I have been eradict with emotions, but mother's day is on the 13th....this coming sunday and I think I will feel the empty hole inside of me.........we made plans to go to a cookout at a friends to get out. But it doesn't change the day. plus even though I have been divorced for over 4 years, my 9 year wedding ann. (would of been is may 23rd). ugh,.

oh k, gonna go do this other stuff talk later or tomorrow,.

leomia
05-10-2007, 03:59 PM
aww... well at least you tried. DO your best and that is all you can do, and know for yourself that you did right...
oh if you were upset I didnt reference you on my post (I cant remember if I did but I have not been on it as no one has written lately and anyways I was in a few posts at once and got confused. I am sorry!)

if anyone has an issue with what you do or say (if you are trying to help I mean) that isn't your problem but I think mostly they are all good peeps! maybe we all have a mental issue blocking what we read who knows. I am better today.... although I stayed up till 10 am and slept till 5 pm dont ask! I was hyper and excited for no apparent reason just surfing the net.
I did get bored eventually!
Anyways back to you -
At least you realize when you are gonna have bad days. Well that is nice your BF is helping you. Hubby did dishes last week that was nice... I know it is usually far and few between. why don't they help more?
:D
well take care and keep that chin up

bpd_bipolar
05-11-2007, 01:07 PM
yesterday was just a day that I finally broke down to a friend that has been hanging out for a while....years, he used to live in the building we live in, the apts..

I lost it. cried, got angry, threw a remote, but softly so nothing would break because of course I would have to clean it (I still kind of think when Ia m p*issed).

Just let it go. I had to get it out. I was furious, angry p*ssed off and a lot of other things too. old man just made me so mad and I had let go on hte first person to come in (old man was upstairs at the neighbors at the time). Poor buddy of mine.

Anyhow, my father is oh k with his leg thing and me, today I am all hurried to do stuff here for right now and I am going to eat I think soon.

leomia
05-11-2007, 05:04 PM
why were you so upset, what happened?
well as long as you know what sets you off and you end up being ok, at least you have a friend who was there for you. I think we all take things out on the people who are there at the wrong or right time... unfortunately. I do too. Just be mindful of it and try to talk to him about things that bother you, else it will stay bottled up and as you can see that is dangerous.
hang in there.
:)

marshmallow
05-12-2007, 08:52 AM
I hope your feeling better today and that the letting go and crying helped to release pent up feelings.
Leomia how are you? I missed ya. I wrote a thread asking where you are but no response from you. I hope your not as homesick as you were.

bpd_bipolar
05-12-2007, 10:56 AM
ty guys. Just stuff w/ bf. I think I posted it up in the other thread somewhere...to much to re-hash and I don't want to think and re-type it all, I still have a bunch to do today....not that I want to neglect you guys, but I am on a time limit this morning and have to get moving, I think I actually slept in...even though I only got about 6 hours of sleep and I feel so tired and run down.......weather change.

oh k...I will try to get back on later. I have to go help out his friends wife (she is not a friend, but an aquaintance...she is really cool, but she works so much (she works at a nursing home and actually haves a day off which is weird, usually she works 12 hour shifts, so I never get to see her)...........so I get to get out and hang with her and help her on the computer for a couple of hours which will help me out.

later guys, now I am emotionally oh k.......for now, just bodily run down and tired,.

leomia
05-12-2007, 01:24 PM
hey BPD hope your holding up. I dont have time today either, I have to work on my website so it looks good for me to do freelancing. And hubby is finally giving me space on the computer wow!
well try to do things that are happy for you so your mind will focus on the positive. I dont know if any of this helps. I have been putting off putting a thread because I have beed in a bad way myself, So i hope I can still help you even though whatever I write must sound lame I jsut cant think or do anything lately. oh well. Its one of those cycles, ya know how it is.
hang in and good luck!

marshmallow
05-12-2007, 07:23 PM
hope your both having a good weekend. Not too good here. Leomia, good luck with the web site. And bpd I hope your feeling perky soon but not tooooo perky. Just right

bpd_bipolar
05-13-2007, 02:08 PM
I have to go soon.......yesterday: I was PURELY HAPPY. not manic, not anything but HAPPY. it has been what seems like forever since I felt it, but I took valiums to calm down, they did nothing, it was HAPPINESS. I didn't let anyone or anything take it away either. I WAS HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also did something for me!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did it alone (well I had my friend Andy drive me to a cancer benefit last night at a tattoo studio 50 minutes away and I was so excited, PURELY HAPPY.), it was great. Independent. I asked my old man if he wanted to come with and he said no thanks, so I didn't care, I went and had an excellent time, donated to the cancer fund and even a couple bonuses.........I took some pictures and I got my yearly tattoo (now 15 years I have gotten one eevry year since I have been 17 years old) and I also got to meet the 3 members of a band that is one of my favorites.......talked with them, got my old man's cd signed for him, my hoodie signed and all that cool stuff. Had a great time.

Even though today is mother's day I am oh k so far. I am not happy about my mom, she is up from NC and said that she can't drive to me and she is leaving monday, I think it is a hit to me because of the kid thing........but oh well, whatever...........

anyhow, what ya gonna do...............oh k gotta go for now.............think I am manic today, but I had a great time yesterday and that is what I will remember.......exactly one month before my b-day I had a great time in honor of my aunt's death..............right on.

leomia
05-13-2007, 02:18 PM
yay I am glad u are HAPPY! that is good to finally be w/o help ya know! so go, you! glad you had fun last night, that is always good. keep your chin up and stay happy! as long as you realize that about your moods you should be ok. and also is good that even today is moms day you are still ok. :D

goody2shuz
05-13-2007, 03:12 PM
Vamp....I am glad that you are feeling happy, that is what we all wish for you. I just am hoping that you are not swinging up towards mania....it's difficult to tell on these boards but getting a tattoo can be rather impulsive....I know that when Erin is hypomanic she self pierces and does impulsive things like color her hair. So I am hoping that what you are describing IS happiness and not signs of mania. Just keeping an eye out for you.;) I am sure that you will let us know how you are doing.

I know that today is a difficult day for you because you are a mom and there is no denying that. And you are a loving mom who really does love your girls. So I wanted to honor you for that and wish you a Happy Mother's Day hoping that you treat yourself well today in a special way.

Have a wonderful day and know that I am thinking about you today.

Sending MOther's Day (((((HUGS)))) ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

marshmallow
05-13-2007, 03:16 PM
Bpd I wanted you to know I am thinking of you today and hoping you are doing well. I know this could be a hard day for you. Hugs and great wishes.

bpd_bipolar
05-14-2007, 01:12 PM
Well I thought that yesterday would be a real tough day, but my boyfriend took me over to his friends for a bbq and I was oh k. we had a nice time and I was pretty well about things.

Well, about the guiness thing I mentioned OH. is now going to be in the Guiness book. I think it is so cool. I was there the first night. The Cancer Society part is more important to me, but this part is pretty nifty too.

As of 9:39 and 41 seconds (am) on May 14, 2007 (This began on May 12, 2007.......ran a total of over 2 days-refer to May 12th **** for the begining of the whole story). ALLIGATOR INK STUDIOS in Willoughby, Ohio has OFFICIALLY beat the Guiness Book Of World Records Set by Glen Keizer and Paul Blackhall from New South Whales, Australia back in 2005 Sept. 16 - 18th (their record time being 42 hrs. and 10 minutes).

The Artist that tattooed the entire body of client ADAM KEMPT is named MARSHALL OLSEN.

I am very proud of these guys, not just for breaking a world record, but for raising over $5,000 in one night for the Cancer society as an estimation was given to me before I left on May 12th, the night I was there and got my 15th straight year tattoo (as my May 13th **** read)........they will continue through out the week with receiving donations for the Cancer Society.

There, I left out the rest of the **** I posted on my site for *******, but that should give you info. on all the stuff for Guiness.

Oh k, well I think I am getting a cold, sat outside at the BBQ all day and it was 62 degrees, but I was chilly. My head is getting an ache once more, I think I need to eat and I am a little sad, but not sure why.......

marshmallow
05-14-2007, 07:16 PM
bpd do you mean you have 15 tattoos? Are you still feeling sad? Sometimes a person feels that way after being with a crowd and then they are alone. I hope you feel better soon.

bpd_bipolar
05-15-2007, 11:16 AM
No, not 15 tattoos...........I have both legs (under the knees), 1 tattoo on my upper left thigh, left forearm up until the elbow (one of my favorite's it is mickey mouse with my oldest daughters name in the banner he holds, so many colors and very birght), then I have my upper left arm with 2 seperate ones near my shoulder. On my back I have on centered right beneath my neck, even with my shoulder blades, well as even as it will be....lol, then on my Right side: Right shoulder halfway until my elbow then below my elbow I have a couple (closer to my wrist, but not on it....the mickey is from wrist up and it hurt like heck...wrist is ouchy!!!)........then right leg "sleeved" below knee all the way around my leg, but not to the bottom of my ankle, stops a little above, but not much.

I just get work done every year since I was 17, which I found myself adding on and on..........so pieces have become full ones.........some years I have ended up with a full piece finally.........but I think all of my "full tats" have been pieced together......lol. it has just been 15 straight years that I have been getting at least 1 tattoo per year. Kind of something that I do for me. (I don't buy myself anything unless it is a neccessity, like bathroom items or socks if I need them, stuff like that, so it is my gift to me).

Umm, the crowd, well there really wasn't one, so that was oh k, I staid to talking with people and being friendly and if I got feeling weird, I just walked away, but poilitely.

I do have to go to my psych docs, but I ahve to do my music ****, so I have to go for now.

Talk tomorrow. IfI am not here tomorrow, just means the fix for my computer for the virus that my b/f got on here we are still working on the computer......that would be the only reason, that and I forgot the link at the library......... :o)

bpd_bipolar
05-16-2007, 12:35 PM
Oh k, well my computer has this new Norton stuff in it, supposedly fixed, but running weird still...........oh well, my b/f opened a virus when I was gone with my night of happiness and it's almost like payment for it by my computer being ruined with a virus that is screwing it up majorly and won't go away........

ugh.

But I haven'tyelled or anything. I almost blame myself I think for not being here but I wouldn't take it back for anything all I would do different is tell him about all the possible things to look for on ******* and what not to click on.

anyhow, today I feel oh k and am a bit tired, but I think this cold is going to be a bit icky for a while.

other than that, ehhhh. keeping me not manic for now I guess.

oh k, well gonna go and do some finishing up so he can use the computer.

leomia
05-16-2007, 12:50 PM
For your computer issues, use Firefox with a NoScript / Java / Flash blocker add on.
If you look that up in a search engine you should find the site you want I think, as long as you use Firefox because that is more safe than any other browser.

basically it does not allow any site unless you temporary allow it and or a script so that makes it totally safe. at least for me, I have a mac, which there are less mac - compatible issues out there!

I will ask my husband he knows more about this, if you are interested ... :) then it will work good again.

other than that you holding up ok? :D
take care!

bpd_bipolar
05-16-2007, 11:05 PM
well, ty for the computer advice.

As for am I oh k....the b/f is being rather an a*s about me not giving him money for a beer so he huffed out of the house and walked to the bar anyhow to pout. I am so tired of him. I mean because of him I had to come up with over $60 to buy a program to get rid of a virus on my computer to get rid of a virus he put on there and my side of the computer is still slower and my yahoo messenger is working like crap and he says it is me that doesn't know what I am doing (when he talks to his friend....)I mean really......what a jerk.

I made a point by not giving him $2 and I am sticking by it. I am just tired of it all. This whole month is one big disaster except the one day I had of happiness and now it is a total tradegy for me. and the one day I leave, that night I got my tattoo he clicks a virus on my computer, like some sick karma or something for me being happy at the same exact time.........werid, ya know.

UGH!!!!!!

So, he is at the bar, I am here and I am just not caring anymore at this point. I really don't want him to come back right now. I want to be alone for once and I am just content with the silence here. I actually want to go to bed by myself and try to fall asleep alone. INDEPENDENT. I need to be and he can just go the heck away for once. I think I am starting to get tired of it all....

The whining and all the crap.

I love him, don't get me wrong, I truly do, but the money thing and him being a pain in my butt about things is getting me really annoyed at this piont. He seems ungrateful more and more and I am getting sick of it.

So............maybe it is time that I just go on my own while we are together, you know, just do my own thing as we are a couple, you know. Be independent together. Like my psych doc says. Be my own person and he be his and we be together as us.

We are not attached at the hip. We are two people together in a relationship, but are seperate people.

oh k, gonna go.

bpd_bipolar
05-17-2007, 11:13 AM
well, let us see. I took my sleeping pills.......eevn 50mg. iof seroqueol with my 10mg. if ambien when I usually take 25mg. of ser. and laid on the couch at 10:30p, I tried to sleep............I guess I dozed in and out. he walked in, he was drunk of course.......................see, he found someone to leech off of at the bar. his friend to buy him drinks and then of course his bartender friend put him to work a bit so the cameras couldn't lie and no one could get in trouble.....and he got drunk.................OH BOY. anyhow, he got in around midnight 20.

I was up. I then went to bed and laid there, he went on the computer per always, he said he was buzzed, but I KNEW.........whatever. I just wanted to go to bed, I have a cold, throat is sore. he didn't bother until 2am.........gee how nice and freaking considerate................so, as he keeps laying back down, I am still being really loud so I am annoying him a lot..............he's a jerk so hey let me give it back.

I am just in a bad mood and will nicely take it out on him............politely of course.................

bpd_bipolar
05-17-2007, 12:41 PM
sweet revenge, he is now puking his guts out. sorry guys, but I am loving this.

called karma.

anyhow, I have been keeping him up.
oh k, well thought I would share. I am feeling a bit annoyed with trying to figure out my computer, but other than that, now......I feel a bit better.

bpd_bipolar
05-17-2007, 06:27 PM
Oh k........so turns out that my b/f isn't getting sick from drinking but has a real bad case of the flu or food poisoning........

now his other friend has it today as well and then the other one had it yesterday.......the other one's ex girlfriend has it too. So........my boyfriend has been real badly sick all day today and I had been kind of mean and blaze to him about it because he is always saying how he NEVER gets sick and did drink last night..............

I do not feel bad, but am being nicer to him.

Oh well, guess he'll survive, but what gets me is that he is asking me to get him smoke and I am just not happy about that. UGH some things never change, not even when he is indescribably sick.

hopefully he will just lay down and stay there and I will not get whatever it is he got.

oh k, I want to go sit on the couch for a change and get off the computer, I am sleepy and need to eat somethiing and don't want to eat in front of him.

bpd_bipolar
05-18-2007, 12:21 PM
well, last night he finaly hled some crackers down, which is good, but his friend dropped smoke off to him.

he's better today, asking for mcdonald's.....I said nope. 'baby food' diet, you know, start off kind of bland and all, but ehh, ease him back in.

anyhow, me, I am a little annoyed today. My emotions haven't hit any platos yet. I want to hit angry or depressed or something, but I am not feeling it. Kind of feeling a bit disconnected.......sort of, not sure how to explain it...maybe the seroquoel isn't all out of my system from taking it for sleep last night, I don't know.

or this cold on top of things is just kicking my butt, who knows. I am annoyed a little because he was hovering a bit, then he wouldn't let me speak, he thought he knew what I was trying to say and kept interupting me.....it was really irratating me and I let him know too.

Just want to be alone, but with him, you know. feel strange emotionally today, not sure why. maybe I need something I haven't taken? I mean I took my nrmal meds, so I am not missing anything. I haven't taken my valium, but I am not anxious so I see no point. I never took them unless Iwas anxious....not like I am hooked on them ya know. Never was on meds like that type.

Even when I was younger (back in the teens) and a pill eater, I stopped one day I didn't have withdrawl or anything, I just went on with my days/nights without any effects. Same with other drugs I used to do back in the day, especially the powdred kind. Went 8 months then stopped. no nothng off of it. withdrawl just didn't exist for me. guess i was just a lucky person like that...but anyhow, enough of the past.

guess I am on to other stuff here, point of stuff I guess is my mind is getting a little scattered again. obviously here............

bpd_bipolar
05-19-2007, 01:26 PM
well, last night we went to bed at 2am, but it was oh k. I mean I was pretty conflicted abut a few things, but things are oh k (confliction within me).....anyhow, he went with me for errands and now we are back today.

anyhow my brain is scattered bad right now, so I won't try to write anymore.

talk later or tomorrow.

marshmallow
05-20-2007, 09:11 PM
Hope your feeling better today. I had kind of a sad day but not much anyone can do about it.

bpd_bipolar
05-21-2007, 12:56 PM
u oh k marsh????

I can't even remember if I posted here yesterday.........so scattered brained sat. n sun. and now today my tummy kind of feels weird and I am trying to do way to much at once.

oh k, gonna go...........

bpd_bipolar
05-22-2007, 11:57 AM
well.......yesterday at 6p that was it fo rme. flu hit me hard, super hard. me who barely goes out ever.

so me, the non-night chile has taken her meds like a good girl, but has been up every hour, twice an hour. Idon't know how I am even on the computer.

gonna go. so tired n drained.

bpd_bipolar
05-23-2007, 12:33 PM
k......the flu is gone.....my head is still a little fuzzy I think, I am tired a bit still, I know I have to eat more and get more slep to catch up what I lost out on, but other than that..........I am oh k here.

So.......even though I had the flu for 2 days and had to take my meds.....make myself take the meds......I was just blah. This morning i had gotten about 6 hours of sleep. which after having no sleep the night before, is better than nothing, so I just need something more.........so hopefully tonight I will have more sleep.

ugh. anyhow, I guess I should go and see how this day runs for me. I ate already, but I need to try to eat more. nothing to heavy, but something more. plus drink more water.

marshmallow
05-23-2007, 07:30 PM
Glad your over the flu and hopefully feeling lots better. How are you otherwise? Do you like to do anything outside like gardening? I love making things grow. Right now I am kind of down because of my husbands behavior so I try to keep busy and work outside. It is therapeutic.

bpd_bipolar
05-24-2007, 11:24 AM
I don't do gardening.......I'm at an apt., so couldn't even if I wanted...but not my thing.
Today I am feeling a bit scatteredin the brain, but other than that and yesterday would of been the ex n mine 9 years wedd. ann., I think I am oh k so far.

hope u r oh k......what happened, Marsh????????????? Your turn........

bpd_bipolar
05-25-2007, 01:41 PM
marsh....? you there????


man, I am so off kilter today. my head is just so not here on this world. I am having such problems thinking today. I actually fought to sleep. then I got sleep, 6 hours, then fought for 2 more, then fought for 45 more mintues. so got up finally at the late 9's. didn't take a shower yet cause it was late. I got some stuff done then it took so long for me to do my work to write my music ****......I had so much trouble with concentration, it was unreal. the tv was way to loud and I told my old man to turn it down n he just was on the phone n basically doing what a teenage chick would do.......awful for my mind as it wandered off into nothingness. I haven't even showered yet and I am just off in nowhere land.

oh k, my head is too confused, but MArsh come back.

marshmallow
05-25-2007, 05:09 PM
I am so sorry your having such a hard time today. Is it the meds that cause you to have lack of concentration? What kind of music do you do?

bpd_bipolar
05-26-2007, 01:09 PM
I think I just had to have the whole week to recover from the flu and also I think I have to start trying to not get so freaked if I wake up late.......need to calm a bit more or I will get burnt out on stuff.

I can't give out my site or I am sure I'll get in trouble here, so ummmm, well I am a liasion, well been doing for 10 years...make no money at it, so it really isn't a job, ya know, but I call it my company since my buddy who ran the company gave it to me. I can't give it up. I work with all types of music as long as it gets "passed" by me and the vp. so if its deemed good and label worthy then we do all that fun technical stuff ya gotta do.

anyhow, how are you????????

marshmallow
05-26-2007, 09:38 PM
It is good you have that to do I think especially if its something you enjoy. You asked how I am doing well not great my husband keeps pushing me away and we are separated as you may know but he started meds but is being really mean and irritable to me. I wanted to see how the meds would help and hopefully someday get together but they way he is treating me makes me wonder. It seems to be all about him and my feelings do not count.I reach out to him and he pushes me away yet says he loves me. I cannot figure.

bpd_bipolar
05-27-2007, 01:23 PM
what is he diagnosed with? Also what meds is he taking? Maybe it is time I help u a bit here, you have been helping me..............

Today, I am tired, exhausted rather. Was annoyed with the old man a bit but am getting over it. I love him and it's no secret, he knows it and now he is off with his aunt n uncle (he hasn't seen in 14 years) n his mom. Me, I get to try to relax a bit, which I desperately need.......after I am done with things on here I want to lay down again.

Oh k, your turn.

marshmallow
05-27-2007, 04:06 PM
He has only been on the meds 2 weeks lamical Spelled wrong maybe . He was diagnosed bipolar but we saw 2 tdocs that thought bp/bpd so I dont know but he is sure sending me mixed messages. When we first separated he wanted to come home so badly but I knew he needed meds as he could get violent so I waited and waited but now he is pulling away from me. I dont understand but I know its his unmedicated self talking as the meds have not kicked in yet. Thanks for listening

bpd_bipolar
05-28-2007, 12:47 PM
it's oh k and I am bpd/bipolar, so I know what it is like. See, it is hard when u first get started on meds and then, it takes 3 1/2 weeks up to a little over a month for the full effect of the meds to get into the system and begin to work completely, BUT sometimes the first meds aren't the correct meds (I have gone through many different meds and finally arrived on ones that are working......took a while, many years actually).

So, he will go through many different changes and it won't be because of you it will be the meds and the circumstances. All you can do is support him the best u can and that is only if u want to.

I mean u have to think of your health too.

me, today, well I am oh k, I think, yesterday evening through 11pm I was raging mad and wanted to hurt myself, well actually my old man and his friend becuse of the drinking............but that is not for now, this is your time.

Talk to me more here, let me helpp u out.

marshmallow
05-28-2007, 02:19 PM
Thank you. Did you see the post I made asking if anyone coudl explain the difference with bp and bpd? It is hard to know because they are so similar. If you read what I wrote after Eyes posted it tells you what his behavior is like on a small scale.

bpd_bipolar
05-29-2007, 12:26 PM
Welp, all I can offer here is that you can tell him one final thing or write it to him or make sure he knows it somehow and that is I love you.

I have told my old man that when we get into it. No matter what it is said, you know.

Just make sure he knows. Tell him when he is ready to come to you, you will be there, but that's basically all u can do.

Yeah though, with the bipolar n bpd...I have both n basically one just (the bpd) is amplified with symptoms for me anyhow.........

talk to me more, you sound like u can use it......

marshmallow
05-30-2007, 08:37 AM
Thank you for your concern I do appreciate it so much. Since your bp and bpd can you explain some what the difference is? I have some that tried and I have read a lot but they seem so much alike to me. Is it true the meds only help with bp?
I shouldn't burden you with questions I know you have a heavy load to carry yourself so if its too much just let me know ok? And I will understand.

Dee-nah
05-30-2007, 10:35 AM
Hi bdp bipolar...

I just found out not too long ago that I have Borderline as well as Post Tramatic Disorder... Right now I'm on Tregretol, Lithium, Trazadone and Xanax.. Do you do well on your meds?

bpd_bipolar
05-30-2007, 01:23 PM
Marsh-- I can try to help u out sometimes too, ya know. :) well, it has ben a long road for me, kind of like forever actually n I was correctly diagnosed in '99 (when I was 12 I was given lithium and then valium for anger, cause all teenagers are angry, you know.......heh, I was into that, I mean what the docs told me I believed.......whatever I was angry, but didn't know why), then again '99 hit and I found a doc that knew what he was doing n got the help I needed.............so imagine being bounced through different docs that didn't know what the heck was truly up, then finally getting the right help!

Oh k. umm, for me, My bipolar symptoms are enhanced by my BPD. the hypersexuality is extra strong and the emotional responses to things are "super strong" and everything is just amplified more in my case of having it. my doc just told me recently because of the book I wrote (about myself) that when he first met me back in '99 that he had never seen and diagnosed someone with such severe bipolar in his career before me. then after a year, I developed the bpd. So I didn't have it both when I first got there, but after time I had then developed it (so I am thinking that time plays a factor, BUT that is for a doc to decide, AGAIN this is my case). Hope that helps you out a little. u can always talk to me..........

Dee-- The meds I am on took a while to find for me. Well, the Valium I have always been on since the first time I saw my doc in '99 n was correctly diagnosed, and the ambien too for sleep.........but other than that......things have been changed, taken out, added in and replaced. So, just a guessing game and a mixture of things. There were times that I thought things worked and then we would get a side effect and took it away then come to find out, it wasn't working at all due to no withdrawl from it. So.......ehh, never know.
ALWAYS consult your doc.

Dee-nah
05-30-2007, 01:44 PM
Thank you and I wish you the best of luck with your disorders!

bpd_bipolar
05-31-2007, 12:51 PM
thank u as well.

today.....mind is a little confused, but just because people weren't leaving me alone to do my work on the computer. I am tired, but that is just something that is seeming to be what I am now a days.

I gather I should eat, but after I am finished online. ohk, talk later or tomorrow. oh, tomorrow we go to the reg. docs n get labs.

Dee-nah
05-31-2007, 12:55 PM
I'm going through something myself, can't get out of these mood swings and it's beginning to take it's toll on me!

bpd_bipolar
06-01-2007, 03:50 PM
i only have a sec here, but i can understand that. last night i thogut i would rip the tv out of the wall because i wanted to sleep n the guys were watching the game. it went into double ot n i was getting very angry.

gotta go, but tell me more about the mood swings...n marsh u around n oh k?

Dee-nah
06-01-2007, 06:05 PM
Ugh, my swings are horrible right now. I don't know if I'm maniac and now that I'm on my new"cocktail" of meds i'm having a hard time dealing with it OR my meds aren't working anymore and I either need an adjustment or new meds? I've had this episode for over a month...

My triggers are... my dad was just diagnosed with cancer a while ago, broke up with my boyfriend and was called twisted and crazy..

bpd_bipolar
06-02-2007, 02:42 PM
Dee: If you have given your meds more than a month to set in your system, then talk with your doc. Actually with any concern speak with them as it usually takes a month or a bit longer for their full effect to get going, but sometimes reactions can occur with the mixing of them.........don't take chances, that is what they are there for. As for the triggers, it is good you can identify them. That is the first step to dealing with them. Words are something that you can not let hurt you and it is HARD to do, but you have to try to let yourself know inside that they are words. I am going to stop right here though for words of help for you................

My best friend, well I guess I can not call him that anymore as he walked away from me in an email this morning. Long story but to be summerized, the girl that he married and cheated on and re-married and had a family with, took him away along witht he army n he has changed n is just told me that he does not want to be freinds with me anylonger after 16-17 years. My bf n I are low lives because we are not working and are getting ssd even though we worked our butts off for a long time (and he knows I did because he knew me when I held the jobs and I busted butt to pay all the bills and support myself and all)............he told me I went from the good to the gutter (meaning married n the hubby working, to my bf that we both don't because we are ill in the head)...i told him that i chose love over money and we are ill.......but he knows and army just screwed his brain up, but he was a screw up back in the day and I was working n responsible, so what he was the lazy one back then and I was good? anyhow, sorry just upset n in pain and all that.

oh k, had to let some out, hope i helped u a bit above, but i need a little break, talk later.

Dee-nah
06-02-2007, 09:03 PM
Are you okay?

bpd_bipolar
06-03-2007, 01:30 PM
things happen for a reason, it is accepted.

going to go for now.............be back later or tomorrw, just can't type right now, not in the frame of mind. thank you though

goody2shuz
06-03-2007, 04:45 PM
Just wanted to say that it'll be okay....friends who are that judgemental aren't deserving of the title "Friend". Please don't let this knock you down too much (I know it probably hurts terribly that he could do and say such cruel/hurtful things).

You will get through this....try to let it out and not take it deep within where it will burrow and fester. You have come too far for that to happen now.

We are here for you and I am sending positive thoughts your way.

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
06-04-2007, 12:23 PM
last night was pretty much the anger part that took me over the edge of trust with the old man. I am thinking that i am not sure if i love him and that is hurting me now. i mean i love him, but i wondering the reasons.

am i convincing myself each day i say it or what? he has kept me up till 2am every night sionce thurs with his crap and i am angry at him. he knew i had to do laundry this morning n food shopping n store before we left for docs at noon n plus i had to do internet n pay electric bill...................we were at bar till 1am n didn't go to bed until 2am cause of him. he is selfish and i am p*ssed.

see psych doc today n i am just so angry n it made me cry last night i was so p*ssed at him.

he cares about him, my birthday is this month n he probably thinks cause he bought me something that it makes it better, it doesn't. he pleads for smoke money and that justifies things. he is an a*s and i am sick of this. i was better off with my husband i knew where i stood emotionally. this is just so freaking messed up.

Dee-nah
06-04-2007, 12:32 PM
I know how you feel, I was/still am in love with a recoverying drug addict who has underlining problems as well.... Put your foot down, I know your a smart women, Bear. Deep down inside you know what is best...

bpd_bipolar
06-04-2007, 06:05 PM
well, I saw the doc.....found out that he is upping his abilify 5 mills, so he will be on abilify 25mg. n topamax 200mg. now. I hope that helps him, but this other crap has to chill.

I am just not in the state of mind for this. I never thought that dealing with another bipolar would be this diffiicult n I tell u, I give the kudos of a lifetime to my ex-hubby for dealing with me for as long as he did. I do not know how he did it actually. I think he was pretty understanding and just plain amazing for putting up with me.

it is very difficult to deal with someone who is bipolar and being one and loving one/ living with one..........let me give advice to the world here: ANYONE out there please, you guys have to just be patient, but with my case and one that wants to be a kid at age 32 hitting 33 in a couple months, that smokes and has a couple drinks a week and I am treating like I am the mom at times because I know I am not perfect here.................sorry got off the line here............JUST if you are bipolar n r in a relationship with a bipolar, be patient it is one of the most difficult things to deal with.

if u love them, it is not easy. see the doc with them, because you will not know what tehy go through even if u r bipolar too, does not matter, u r not the same person n go through the same thing, you know.

anyhow, he had his friend pick him up from the docs, so he has been gone from me since i went in to see the doc at 1pm. it is 5:10pm now. i needed the break. good thing.

gonna go for now. need to relax a bit before he shows up again.

goody2shuz
06-04-2007, 09:22 PM
What you say is probably very true....I have been following your posts since your last thread and I think that the reason you posted on this forum was because of the difficulties you were facing being BP/BPD and living with somebody who is BP himself. I couldn't even imagine what that would be like....a part of me would think that you would have a better understanding of one another but another part of me would think it would be almost impossible for each of you to work on stabilizing yourself when you are with somebody day in and day out who has their own issues. I would imagine that just makes it all the more difficult to move forward.....reading your posts it seems that you have so much more stress living with your BF and we all know what stress will do even when you are pretty much stabilized.

I think that you are beginning to realize on your own that if you were to continue like this that your overall well being may be affected. Perhaps you would be more stabile and happy if you weren't having to be around another person who doesn't seem to want to work on getting better when you do. You need to be in a supportive environment with minimal stress, where you can get rproper sleep, eat right, be compliant with your meds and that just doesn't seem to be the case most of the time for you.

Becoming self aware and doing all that you can do to figure out what is the best way to remain stable is so very important. I think that you are beginning to do just that and it is great to see that you are seeing things a little more clearly. What do your tdoc and pdoc have to say about your situation???? Perhaps it is time for you to figure this all out with them.

Hoping that you are doing okay....please know that we are here if you need to talk.

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
06-05-2007, 02:11 PM
k......ty for your words. I am not being dismissing, just so scattered n been so busy this morning and now it is afternoon.......been running by myself n doing laundry n food shopping, just want to get offline n eat for the first time today. going to take a valium to calm down in a second here before i eat so it will work.

i will write later or tomorrow but maybe later when i can think.

sorry if this sounds rude, but i will take more time around 3pm or a little after, I will.

bpd_bipolar
06-05-2007, 04:42 PM
What you say is probably very true....I have been following your posts since your last thread and I think that the reason you posted on this forum was because of the difficulties you were facing being BP/BPD and living with somebody who is BP himself. I couldn't even imagine what that would be like....a part of me would think that you would have a better understanding of one another but another part of me would think it would be almost impossible for each of you to work on stabilizing yourself when you are with somebody day in and day out who has their own issues. I would imagine that just makes it all the more difficult to move forward.....reading your posts it seems that you have so much more stress living with your BF and we all know what stress will do even when you are pretty much stabilized.

I think that you are beginning to realize on your own that if you were to continue like this that your overall well being may be affected. Perhaps you would be more stabile and happy if you weren't having to be around another person who doesn't seem to want to work on getting better when you do. You need to be in a supportive environment with minimal stress, where you can get rproper sleep, eat right, be compliant with your meds and that just doesn't seem to be the case most of the time for you.

Becoming self aware and doing all that you can do to figure out what is the best way to remain stable is so very important. I think that you are beginning to do just that and it is great to see that you are seeing things a little more clearly. What do your tdoc and pdoc have to say about your situation???? Perhaps it is time for you to figure this all out with them.

Hoping that you are doing okay....please know that we are here if you need to talk.

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:


Apologies once more for not being able tor ead this post thoroughly, but now I have and I do agree with some points here. The psych doc thinks that the 5 year mark which I ever so lovingly call the doom mark for the relationship is heading closer and if I am not careful it is the one mark that will be engraved in my life as the end of relationship time for me.

I try and try to be the loving one. To do things for him n to be there. sometimes I wonder if being the friend has more respect n time for him then being the girlfriend, but not sure if i previously said that, it sounds familiar to me.....but i could of emailed that to someone.

anyhow, i feel like i am settled for at times and at other times just majorly taken for granted. i am expected to take care of him as if he is a child n then at times i am the one who is put upon the tasks of doing it all so he can just party away times and have whatever he wants. I am the atm for him n i matter not at the other times or maybe i am the calendar or the reminder of things..........then i am the clock or the buzzer. i am the driver, i am the mom i am a lot, but when it comes down to it in the end, even though he says he lvoes me, i am a convenience and i am a person he can have sex with that is safe for him. i put up with him. he puts up with me. we drive one another mad and love one another. what is worse though???????

there are the pros n cons............how do u weight them all out n still come out with the right choices n answers without wanting to hurt the other person or lose your mind??????????

oh k, well again..........here ya go, this is the real answer to the post you left for me goody. sorry about the quick one i left prior.

bpd_bipolar
06-06-2007, 12:14 PM
today i was oh k for a while, but then was writing my work n it disappeard. i was mad about it n of course the ever loving bf said it must be my fault or ******* but everyone says my fault with the computer i was angry abotu that. i mean they think i mean his friends think n him that i can not use a computer. i hate that.

jerks. anyhow so my oh k day is now my anger. i will calm i ahve to take a valium in a minute here, but i willt alk later or tomorrow

goody2shuz
06-06-2007, 02:02 PM
(((((HUGS)))))) thinking of you today.....I don't really have any sure answers for you but I guess what it really comes down to is asking yourself one question, "Am I better off with him OR without him????" Not an easy question but it would be like taking a piece of paper and listing all the positives and the negatives.....some things will cancel others out and then look at what is left. If it is mostly negative then there is your answer. I once had to do that and when I had a visual it was clearer for me to see that I was much better off without him......I could see it but the difficult part was having my heart see it too. Perhaps this will work for you in truly evaluating how good this relationship is to your overall physical, emotional and mental well being.

I am hoping that you have less anger when you post next and that you are feeling somewhat better.

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
06-07-2007, 12:00 PM
I've done the pro/con thing, but it just comes down to me talking things out with myself and with him all the time. I get to the point where I want to mother him and then he acts the kid role because I mother him........but when i step back n do not mother him, he falls out of the kid role.........then again some times he falls into the kid role alone....i have to mother him to keep him in line.

ugh.

just a thing. I do lovehim, he does love me. he is loyal, does not chea ton me. 2 pluses, but we talk about stuff n i make myself clear about things, yes he pushes me and i push him.....we r both mentally messed up n we both tell one another that we both would like to be mentally stable to see what it is like so we can live "noraml' lives.

this bipolar/bpd thing for me n bipolar/adhd thing for him, we are both just having to still learn to get used to............hard for both of us. his answer is to selectively hear what he wants to avoid my constant weird ranting which is cool with me because half the time is is that...weird ranting for no reason, so i know he does it n am oh k with it. lol. he needs to know when to hear me n i have told him that n he is understanding that though.

there r things............always will be.

but oh k well gotta go for now. talk tomorrow. or later or something.

--ty

marshmallow
06-07-2007, 04:32 PM
Sorry you are having some rough days. I hope it gets better for you soon. I am thinking of you.

bpd_bipolar
06-07-2007, 08:51 PM
Thank you. some times I think that I would be just content if I were alone, but then again I would be ALONE. Who knows...........

I mean I was so independent........I worked my butt of when I was younger, you know. I was so the work a holic and came home to an empty house and took care of everything and did what I wanted to, usually after a 16 hour day of a job I really loved to do and had fun at. But now I am here. co to dependent and feel sometimes as if I am dragged down to a level of something i know i deserve better.

worst part is I realize this and am doing nothing to better myself.

that is the sadest part.

love is the one choice I was so proud of making for myself and that is the one thing that i just should of gave up on maybe..........but then i think that i shouldn't of. but i digress.

I think i am off of here for now. night to you guys.

goody2shuz
06-07-2007, 11:13 PM
:angel: (((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))) ))))))):angel:

I think that you are actually coming to realize that you need to focus on yourself and working on your own stability so that each day you will make positive strides in terms of your overall happiness. It is very difficult to do this with somebody else who has their own set of problems and isn't able to support you but rather places you in a more stressful environment. You cannot manage somebody else's life in addition to yours.

I know you know this already but the thing you must think of now and work out with your pdoc and tdoc is how you can get out of this codependency and be able to stand strong on your own two feet.

I see you making lots of progress in terms of becoming more self aware of what you need to do in order to get yourself to a better place in terms of your BP/BPD. It shows how coming here and writing allows you to see things more clearly. Now all you have to do is figure out what steps you need to take to making that into a reality.

Keep on writing and venting and know that we are here for you.

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
06-08-2007, 11:20 AM
Thank you, once more..........I seem to thank you a lot....LOL.

oh k, well I actually need to get going as my car is basically an oven with the windows not going down and all.

take care n be back later or tomorrow

bpd_bipolar
06-09-2007, 03:40 PM
my mind is not completely here right now, tired, but awake...which is kind of weird.

went to sleep at 5am this morning n got up in the 7's, then took another seroqueol and slept until 11 something, then got up and that is pretty much it. 6 hours of broken up sleep. I want to rest, but am beat.

I am trying to get the old man to understand that life moves on for everyday life n not standing still for one person...........he is so obseesed with his little 23 year old friend. a guy that is annoying but respectful to me. ugh. anyhow, long story.

bpd_bipolar
06-10-2007, 02:52 PM
hi there guys. today I practiced my skill of one in the moment.........something on my skill sheet that my psych doc and I go through on my diary card that I have been doing since (well, I began with seeing him in 1999 n then we did the group therapy in 2000.....so that is when the diary card were introduced)......what seems a long time here, but I gather is only 7 years, so it does work when you are willing to let it.

Anyhow a way to be one mindful is to eat and just enjoy each bite of food you take in. Do not inhale it, but bite it, close your eyes for a moment and taste it. To yourself describe the tastes and just enjoy it. My old man and I were eating bar food (here at home), but I was taking a bite of a mozzey stick and just enjoyed it. I was calming down from my annoyance with him. Man, he sure does annoy me really easily some times with the attnetion span ADHD thing.........I should say lack of attention span....

So........at times it is the little things, you know. Also, some deep breathes. Meditation, I always have enjoyed lighting scented candles and closing my eyes and just breathing while listening to Apocalyptica (an instrumental band).....they did an album called four chelloists do Metallica.......but they are 3 chelloists now, basically just some nice music that is not to slow and not to heavy, very delightful for me............when I am in the mood for instrumental music (with their album Reflections that I have, but towards the end they have some lyrical ones, but nothing heavy, you know, mellowed out tunes).

Anyhow, I am doing oh k. Mind is kind of tired of dealing with all the drama that is my life, but nothing I can do. I however an trying to go ahead and have a day for my birthday which is tuesday, the twelth..............that will be oh k, but hey I can not guarentee someone won't screw it up for me.

bpd_bipolar
06-11-2007, 10:35 AM
k...have to run n do stuff here, but wanted to drop in n say hi and that i am a little racked for time.

be back later or tomorrow probably later

AussieTam
06-11-2007, 10:46 AM
Really wise words there bpd!! This is something that bipolar folk need to do, my pdoc says, is learn to enjoy "natural highs" and the "small pleasures in life" - and I have found it to be very very therapeutic. I miss the manias less and less as I learn to appreciate normal things like cuddling my cat, eating a beautiful meal, and looking out to the ocean. Natural therapy that doesn't give me stomach cramps, yay!! :D

bpd_bipolar
06-12-2007, 11:43 AM
Thank you.

Today I have turned 32. Ahhh....I have determined already as of yesterday that I am to have a good day today. My mind is set on this, so therefore I am set for what I shall be doing and be with my love, no one else is going to ruin this for me. I am sticking to that.

I am seeing how determinanation can rule over mood swings and all that good stuff. Mind over matter, let's seeif it can be done for a bpd/bipolar? Well, let us see about two of the bipolar people.....my bf is one as well, but he has adhd.

It is my day and He got me some really cool gifts and I am just in awe of a bottle, a gothic one that is engraved.....just gorgeous, something I would of never thought he would get, but I was so thankful, it is an incense holder.

Amongst a cool t-shirt and a keychain of my favorite band, stickers of bands n pin of my favorite band. He also made me a playlist for my b-day.

Wonderful of my love. This will be a good day. I'll get back to you guys n let you know how today went for me. State of mind right now = pleasant n contently as close to happiness as I can be.

munchie11
06-12-2007, 02:51 PM
A big happy birthday. I hope you have a great day.

Munchiexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Dee-nah
06-12-2007, 03:47 PM
Happy Birthday!!!!

marshmallow
06-12-2007, 04:36 PM
Have a Wonderful Day.

goody2shuz
06-12-2007, 05:43 PM
:bouncing: :bouncing: HAPPY 32ND BIRTHDAY:bouncing: :bouncing:

Hope that the rest of the day goes as wonderfully as it began!!!:D I LOVE your positive attitude....I think that it is going to make a BIG difference on how the day goes!!! I can't wait to hear all about it!!

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
06-13-2007, 11:45 AM
Well, yesterday was a really, super positive, good day for me. my old man n i had a great time, well i had a great time. it was absolutely fun as heck. got some really good gifts and just enjoyed myself, he was good to me, then we got back and we laid down at 8p, thought he was a little tired from running during the entire day and a big meal....................he n i talked n he said he was emotionally drained from keeping me happy. said he had kept his mouth shut, that he could of been mean n said that he didn't appreciate me keeping him from his friends and telling them not to come over at all.

I just laid there and dropped a bit of tears. everything was fine for me, but that did it for me a little, then all was getting a bit poopy for me. No........he said ooo i shouldn't of said anything and I told him i am glad that he talks with me. so i told him to just go upstairs if it makes him happy, not to worry about it, it is all oh k.

then he just said don't worry about it. ahhh the selfish boyfriend. then we got up a little bit later as sleep was not what we did. anyhow.........so we were sitting n talking in the computer room. he was online and i sat as i never went back on the computer and it was just something i blew out of my mind. so i was ehhh..........not so happy n positive anymore.

just content now.

then he whined a bit about wanting to go to the bar to a friend of his on the phone. I looked at him and said no. well, he got a little whinyer and i just told him to get out. if I couldn't have one whole damn day, then get out. take a couple of dollars and go away.

he walked out of the room, I sat there and I was quiet, he completely ruined it all at 9:30pm. I was so close to a great birthday.................self fish ba**ard. I love him, but he just wanted a buzz. he wants his friends who will give him a buzz n his buzz is first I think who knows, priorities are all screwed up. maybe I should just give him back what he gives to me.

i am not like that though. maybe i should start? still isn't me though. anyhow...............just angry about it, but don't care u know. don't have the energy to be angry.

so, that was my day, fine until i ruined his life at 8pm for emotionally draining him..............i gather i am the worst for putting him through such a heck, you know.

so, there u go......................my 32nd birthday.

thank u all for the wishes.

have to go post my music review. later.

bpd_bipolar
06-14-2007, 10:42 AM
Yesterday was just there. we went back to "us". he said so we have one good day then we r back to this...........I wanted to say at the end it wasn't so good...but kept my mouth shut.

anyhow. he left to go to his friends which he kept whining about walking, so I finally drove him to, plus he kept saying how he wouldn't eat, so he knew I would want him to, so I just brought him some darn food, then got him there to his buddy's. he was drinking of course and there ya go. he staid gone, but I called n reminded him to take his meds. it was very short lived with talk. worked fine.

I was alone for 5 1/2 hours n I was oh k. I thought about what it would be like............I was oh k with it, but subconsciously I knew he would be back.......so I do not know anymore if it is about that i am just fine with him gone and can be alone with a good, enjoyable time or that i know deep down he'll always be coming home whenever to me. Anyhow, he actually wanted to go to bed around midnight 20. on his own without me asking him to. weird about that though.

my head was cluttered, the bipolar was a little raging, but i held it together. which, I kept my tongue in my mouth, but him........see he was just in a weird mood of his own bipolar self, like he was trying to catch up on all the hanging out n drinking he could of done on my birthday if I wouldn't of taken him from his precious friends that day.

i fall second or third. don't know yet, but i am here. convenience. love? guess more the first. ehh, guess if u live with someone who treats u like a king even though they mother u at a lot of times, it still shows a lot of love n attention right???

now, as of this moment, I know I have to go to the credit union to deposit a check. my brain is semi-clear, but I am depressed. I feel sad, I want to cry but I am unsure if it is because i feel alone and empty inside or because i want to be alone and empty.................I just can't tell.

bpd_bipolar
06-15-2007, 11:53 AM
my head is oh k for the moment as I have had my shining moment in the sun with a company that is completely incorrect and I have a paper trail of proof that I am right, so they are not knowing what to do with a customer that stands her ground and won't give in!! Yes, I am so using my skills with this one, my psych doc will be proud on it, heck, I am proud on it. Self respect I have is amazing for this.

I am proud of myself on this thing here. that is what matters.

other things, I am ehh on. let ya know what else happens later or tomorrow...famous words by me.

bpd_bipolar
06-16-2007, 12:20 PM
hi. last night I actualy thought things were gonna end all nice n peaceful.

the day began good as u read. then bf n i talked about his thoughts and feelings on how he is going to weedd out his real friends from aquintances, which is a good thing in my book. I am glad. So this conversation with him was a real good thing. then him n i had a bunch of people in n out of here all day.. my mind was at mellow, but then hit the mood swings.

i was not manic feeling but got a little annoyed at a few times, for no reason that i saw in an obvious way. no trigger there. but u never know the trigger somtiems. anyhow, so things moved on and then the 23 year old shows up drunk with his friend at 11:45pm. I was mad. asked him who is knocking on our door this late. he came in and i was even not happier as we just got back from the bar and were about to head to bed. i did the talking. not sure if that put the bf in a bad mood.good mood or tolerate me mood but he was good with me none the less. I told the kid after he asked me what we were doing and he was heading upstairs to uupstairs neighbors part where there was a bunch of alcohol that I said we r going to bed most likely super shortly.

he goes well since u r kicking me out then we will go. bf said in a small, quiet voice i am not kicking u out, it wasn't like my old man to be so quiet with his voice, so there was a weird #1 thing. this is why i think he was mad at me, but is trying to keep the peace with me last night.

anyhow so we get ready for bed and then he goes, i think i am going upstairs, well i looked at him n said that i thought we were going to bed and he said well oh, u don't want me to go then i won't.....i was like, well i am not your mom i can not tell u not to, but i know that if u do, you will go drink for hours, then u will come back down n bring the drunken guys with u n i am stuck awake for 3 more hours (it was 12:39 or 40a by then). he goes oh k i won't..............i babbled a bit, but then shut up quickly n we went to bed.

yeah, lasted for about 20 minutes or a little bit more as phone rang 2 times n 2 messages got left. his bartender friend saying he had a mess at the bar, he had slipped n he needs help stocking beer n he'll take real good care of him.

i felt guilty because i could of lied about the second message, but was honest as always and we went to the darn bar. helped out and then got back and ended up in bed at 2:30 something. I fell out around 3 something.

just always something n i told him only reason he calls u is because we live a block away and he can bribe u with free stuff to give u a buzz.

he said he knows, but i also made sure that he knew i wasn't being mean n he knew that too.

anyhow this morning i am just here. bland n tired as all heck as been up since 9's.

veljul
06-16-2007, 02:48 PM
Are both of you on meds? I thought alcohol and the meds most of us take did not mix. Maybe I am wrong.

Dee-nah
06-17-2007, 11:16 AM
Correctly if I'm wrong and I'm not trying to be mean or anything like that, I think your used to my postings by now, I never attack so please take this as constructive critism, okay!

When is all this going to take it's toll on you because it's only a matter of time. I know you love this person so IMO you need to do 2 things, get him to completley understand you with out him holding it against you or just get off of it... Your health is paramount right and it's seems it's working on over load since it's not only healing/helping you but for another as well but he need to actucally hear it register... If I'm wrong please explain otherwise so I can better understand it... I just want the best for you since I think you have a lot to offer...

bpd_bipolar
06-17-2007, 11:17 AM
We are both medicated, yes. I take Trileptal, Valium and Topamax, he takes Trileptal and abilify (which they moved his back up to 25mg. from 20mg., his choice).....

yes, meds and alcohol do not mix, but he is not going to stop drinking.........he is not going to 'stop living' for diseased mind so to speak.

Me, I did not stop drinking or smoking because I was on medication, I chose to stop because, well honestly, I drank a lot when I was younger and I just do nto have a taste for it..........plus the fact that I had problems with other aspects of drinking from other people in my life, dealing with them. So.....that is another whole realm...lol.

I do not smoke because it is a choice as well. the cigarette part is because I used to smoke a bunch n now it just disgusts me. I will take a hit off of a cigarette to remind myself once in a blue moon of how icky it really is to me plus the other "smoke" I wrote a contract n signed it with my psych doc that I will lose my valiums (for anxiety) if I have any drugs in my system that are illegal............that is how serious I am about being clean of that stuff.

He smokes all the way around n it calms him. it goes against the ADHD n works really well with the meds n I just don't understand sometimes, ya know. it never has been a problem ever. just the drinking. hate the darn alcohol n everyone around that drinks it. the smell of it especially n the young kids (that little 23 year old is just so ungodly ignorant n annoying) because he gets all hyper n stuff or the guys want to fight when they fight n I have to scream at the kids..............not my old man, but when that 23 thing is around, he brings out the hyper (ADHD) part of my bf.

it sucks bad.

the drunk bf side is sometimes mellow, but if he isn't around younger people. it is like he has to be in majorly controlled certain situations, and it is near impossible to keep him that way......................

just want this to be fixable, but it isn't, at least it doesn't seem to be, but our doc gets through to him, then the smoke makes him really think. that is what is good.

ahhhhhhhh, makes my brain want to scream,. ya know, kicks in my bipolar/bpd harder and i get very angered or depressed or both.

oh k have to work, but be back tomorrow or later.

bpd_bipolar
06-18-2007, 11:09 AM
Correctly if I'm wrong and I'm not trying to be mean or anything like that, I think your used to my postings by now, I never attack so please take this as constructive critism, okay!

When is all this going to take it's toll on you because it's only a matter of time. I know you love this person so IMO you need to do 2 things, get him to completley understand you with out him holding it against you or just get off of it... Your health is paramount right and it's seems it's working on over load since it's not only healing/helping you but for another as well but he need to actucally hear it register... If I'm wrong please explain otherwise so I can better understand it... I just want the best for you since I think you have a lot to offer...


*I didn't see thsi pop up until today....lol. I had posted to answer the other person's question, not yours Dee, so here is my response to yours, although I guess it would kind of be the same......but ironically, he got drunk last evening..........so, gee, how do i justify that one? I am done with it actually. I mean he is a grown man and he takes his meds, if he gets sick, he cleans it up as per our agreement, I am not his mom and I need to try to stop treating him like I am in certain situations, you know? But, again, to the drinking, I hate it...................he knows it.................can't control it.

If I controlled every aspect of his life, then he wouldn't be a person, his own entity, he would be a puppet, a toy or robot to me and I want an individual, so I HAVE to take the bad with the bad with the good..........................I just need to vent because if I don't then I will break inside and my psych doc said that getting things out in writing (again, I have many journals, the computer and my homework for him) is a good, healthy form of constructive therapy.*

I mean no harm towards you guys, you've always known that and yes, the drinking, well it is unhealthy for him and I want him to be around, but I can not do anything about it............so, I am trying to just relax and not make a huge deal to see if reverse psychology works.........................less of deal I make, maybe more of a chance I get of him not doing it so often..................he has only gone down to the bar 2 times a week with me instead of 5. progress in my book.

Take care all.

bpd_bipolar
06-19-2007, 09:56 AM
just here real quick to say hi. have to change laundry to dryer n also have to finish up work so i can go to my doc appt.

psych doc that is.

get back with u soon today or tomorrow.........not sure which.

mind is usually manic on laundry day, but i am trying to keep it under control...not easy..............

2fast
06-19-2007, 11:19 AM
Is your bf's BP under control? I mean, I hope it's not a situation where he's expressing himself while not letting you. Being BP himself, I would think he might understand the need to let your feelings out, not to take these things to heart, and that people around him at times have to grin and bear it as far as he's concerned. I know for me of I had to keep everyhting in, I would explode (I, too, have ADHD and have way too much energy to know what to do with...hence my screen name). I hope this makes sense, I'm in rambling mode.

2fast

goody2shuz
06-20-2007, 11:10 AM
Just wanted to pop in and say that I was thinking of you....reading your posts shows me that you are doing alot to increase your self awareness and look at ways in which you can bring more stability in your life.

I know that you are not quite sure how your BF fits into that picture, but I am sure that over time as the meds work and you work things out with your therapist you will figure that out.

I see some progress and just wanted to tell you that and that you are in my thoughts.

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

bpd_bipolar
06-20-2007, 11:16 AM
Thank you. I went about 20 minutes one day with an 'experience of adhd' because of a medication mishap and let me tell you if it was anything like the real thing................my mind racing, I couldn't concentrate on anything, I couln't sit still, I was pacing, had to do everything in 2 seconds time.........I do not know how he handles it at all. I could not stand it.

I give absolute kudos to anyone who can live with and deal with adhd.

He is medicated with Abilify (25mg.) and Trileptal 1200mg. because he has bipolar as well as ADHD and Topamax 200mg. (the weight loss thing, the abilify when it was first coming out, he was a 'guinea pig' for it).

So.......he is just feeling like he is programmed by me and his friends now as we have talked (him n I talk and are honest with one another, a great things for us). he misses his 'screw u attitude', which to me is there, but he has lost his edge in his artistic abilities n does give in to other people..........i do not like it, but with ME, well..........I have a control issue as well as me being less sarcastic (which he has worked on with me and I am doing a darn good job of it. it isn't easy for me since he knows the family i grew up with and sees it when i speak with them or they actually come around and how they treat me.........i am the youngest n instead of being the babied one---oo, he is the only child for his mom, but was treated comppeltely different as his dad beat him physically.............but that isn't really relevant, well it can be, but see, I am scared to play fight with him as i do not want to bring back flashes for him or anything, i treat him like a child a lot.................but he acts like one.......then he acts like an adult and i treat him like one of those too.......but mostly the kid part...............)

u know, I forgot what i was saying, see u thought u were adhd, me, I am simply bipolar and borderline personality disorder (BPD).........a tiny ocd in there too...............and i just ramble manically, even though i am not manic right now........................

point of this i think is that we love each other, but we both have our limits and i think we are both trying to draw the line in the sand and we are both trying to see how close we can walk n tip toe to the line without actually crossing it...................however I have this hatered of drinking and he drinks . My past, my problem n i have to learn to acccept this or i will be miserable n then we will either break up or i will explode like i feel it boiling over inside so many times.

his friends, well some i can not stand because they are enablers and others are 23 or mid 20's. I am 32 n he is hitting on 33. they are kids to me in their actions and mental status. i can not handle dealing with more kids in my home. i have to watch n scream n yell at them especially when they drink.

sorry to have gone off here on a major rant, but see......................adhd doesn't matter when u have a bipolar who can keep up---LOL

bpd_bipolar
06-20-2007, 11:18 AM
Just wanted to pop in and say that I was thinking of you....reading your posts shows me that you are doing alot to increase your self awareness and look at ways in which you can bring more stability in your life.

I know that you are not quite sure how your BF fits into that picture, but I am sure that over time as the meds work and you work things out with your therapist you will figure that out.

I see some progress and just wanted to tell you that and that you are in my thoughts.

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

----------i posted to 2Fast in the last post, then yours showed up........if u would of seen it before u wrote this one...........LOL.

anyhow, today, well read above, or below, or you can figure it out. oh k, have work to do and my mind needs to calm........................i need my valium actually. i need to calm with my breathing and a v. the extra is in case the breathing isn't enough, but hopefully i will not need the pill.

2fast
06-20-2007, 08:49 PM
I'm glad that both of you are trying to figure things out.
I totally understand where you're coming from as far as your bf's friends. I am 34 and my bf just turned 33, most of his friends are early - mid-twenties. He goes out to the bar EVERY fri or sat and usually doesn't come home because he's had too much to drink. I wish he would move on, he does coke when he goes out as well. I partied a bit (way) too much (actually I had a coke problem) a few years ago, but I thought it was just a phase for both of us and that we would both move on together. I HATE it.
Anyway, I just wanted to share our similar bf situations (drinking and young friends).

bpd_bipolar
06-21-2007, 11:36 AM
more similiar than you think...............

I am not going to write abook, but last night was pretty much the breaking point for me and i am not sure that i can be here much longer as his drunkenness was a little more for me than i can take.

he was a littel physical towards me and i won't take that. he had to pull the 2 fingers out that he jammed in when he pushed me back and knocoked me off balance into the towel shelf. my back isn't good with the bulging discs anyhow, but i gave no satisfaction of anything to him except telling to him to reset the pushed in fingers. he flashed to his wife n i just flashed to the reasons i hate alcohol n drunks.

i do not think this is going to work and i think that we are not going to be able to continue this much more.

after i am finished on the computer with things, i think i am going to leave for a while.

not sure where to so, but i think i need to get out.

drive in my burning up car to anywhere. sit in the park or something, but not be here.

be back at 3p to do my work again, but that is it.

maybe leave again after it.

i just don't want to look at him, he is sleeping of course, i was scarred all night, i got baout3-6 hours, can't remember. just know i was not like this with anyone in the recent past.

drunks have no place in my life.

goody2shuz
06-21-2007, 01:01 PM
WOW....I am a strong believer in signs and if I needed a sign to get out of this relationship then I believe that you just got it.:angel:

You have been tormented about how this relationship will affect your maintaining/attaining your stability. We all know that alleviating stress as much as possible is the #1 rule no matter how well the meds are working. And it looks like your days are pretty much full of it. Stress is the #1 factor that causes a relapse and it is sooo important that you are in a tranquil environment in order to function at your best.

I am somebody who shoots right from the hip when there is reason to and this just seems to be one of those times. I suggest you go back to your old thread and look at your very first post when you came here...look at the date and then ask yourself one question...has anything changed since you first posted about your problem or has it worstened??? That will be a good gauge of how the future will be in terms of running it's course. The second question that you must ask yourself is "Do I want to remain in this situation knowing that the likelihood of things staying this way or perhaps getting worse will be what my life will be like and do I want to look back on this moment and wish that I had done something about it to turn it around in a more positive direction????"

You do not have any control over your boyfriend and what he does or decides to do but you DO have control over what you can do and decide in order to make your life better.

I guess that's enough shooting from the hip....I certainly do not do so to knock you down or hurt you....sometimes you just have to say it like it is in order to best help somebody through a difficult time.

I hope that your time away has helped a little. That can be another thing that you can look at whether being away from the situation causes you relief or torments you.

We are here for you....I have a pretty busy day ahead of me but will keep a close eye on things. Please know that you are in my thoughts as you figure this all out.

Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:

2fast
06-21-2007, 04:39 PM
bpd_bipolar,

I am so sorry to hear about your SH***Y night. My bf and I have gotten physical as well, and most of those times it was initiated by me. (That would be my explosive behavior coming out.) I think you should get away for a long while/permanently. Funny, the advice I give usually pertains to my life as well, but don't listen to it.

Take care of YOURSELF and hang in there. :)

bpd_bipolar
06-22-2007, 10:48 AM
I took off yesterday after I finished up on my computer work. I drove, a two minute normal drive to a park that my exhusband used to take me to to clear my head, our heads and talk. look at the waves coming and take walks, tranquil. took me about 15 minutes and just cried on the drive and got there and parked and cried. just lost it. i talked out loud to myself and couldn't figure things out, composed myself a bit and the tears stopped mostly and then I saw a guy on a motorcycle, I watched him drive past me, he stared at me. I kept watching him, staring, I just said out loud to myself that that is how it should be, be free. nothing to restrain you, to hold you back. he then turned halfway past my car (i sat inside the whole time under a tree in the shade) and he smiled at me and waved. I waved back and he drove off.

i talked and cried mroe. i kept saying that is how things in life should be. to just be free. nothing to hold you back. no restrictions on how you feel, nothing to hodl you back and tell you how to be or act.

i am just so sad, angry.....................so angry.....................so want to lash out, but wat good is it, well finally after his friends left, you know the most important things , oh wait, no the buzz is the first thing in his life. anyhow, so later in thenight, after he kept walking on egg shells with me, he kept asking me if i felt better, i told him not really. he was so nice to me, not sure why, i mean what did he grow a conscience here or well i found out what it was later.

after everyone got the hell out of my house. he said to me.....he thought he may of over reacted a bit.

words from the mouth of a drunk. oh wait, that is right, he wasn't "drunk" he wa just buzzed. no drinks over 5-6 shots of jager and over 4 beers (2 22oz n 2 12 oz plus whatever else he had after i left) and isn't drunk without food in him!!!!! anyhow, so after he got side tracked again with his damn adhd.........i asked him as i was most polite and quiet worded at that point because i had no choice but to take 2 valiums together................it was that or cut myself and i was NOT hurting myself because of anyione"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the effects were wearing off from me laying on the couch n napping for a couple of hours n he said that he just thinks he over reacted a little and that he could of been a little less in my face about things so to speak. well that wa it, he said that i said thanks and that was all i walked away.

he said wat does that mean i said that i am not explaining my words anymore. (cause he said nuff said at the end n i took it as he was finished talking but he never apologized for getting in my face nose to nose , I do remember clearly what happened with that though, he DID NOT shove me.........he stood in my face nose to nose, i did lose my balance, but HE DID NOT help me when he saw me start to go backwards, so whatever on that one, point is that i told him in no uncertain terms is that there is no third time here with physicality, he had it twice, no three. number 3 and that is it. he is gone.

oh k, I am done typing here, i cna't do this anymore, but he neevr apologized for anything and whatever about that you know.........................i am ME and that is it. he can go to h#ll with his friends and his drinking and stuff. he wants it he can have it.

if he wants a chick like he had married that would party with him and get all screwed up and deal with his crap and get walked all over and get drunkw ith and drugged up, I am not her.

I am responsible and I will try to help him. that is who i am .. i love him, but he is making it near damn impossible here for me to continue this stuff.

i'll catch u guys later'

bpd_bipolar
06-23-2007, 11:52 AM
Tell me how bipolar/bpd this is???????

after everything and I mean EVERYTHING that I typed to u guys................

yesterday things go along oh k. we even sleep together, I was hesitant and told him when we laid down that i was hoping he thought i was not going to have sex with him because i did not want him thinking it would be something that would be a band aid on this relationship of ours.

well he got offended and said that he wouldn't do that. oh k, well fine. then he gets back from other room and more or less wasn't rough with me, nothing like that at all, actually was gentle, but passionate, something he usually isn't. he waits for me to do things, and he took control this time...yadda yadda.....................i asked him afterwards when time had moved on about 20 minutes when someone had called and needed to run somewhere, which it was a guy that is his friend, BUT the guy calls ME his friend and him and I talk a bunch about everything and i get along with him...............if i would run all of us over this guys house. Well after he hung up the phone because we had to wait to see if the other person was home (he screens his calls.........hey, it would be nice to do.................his dad works at home, so the kid calls back after his dad tells him the phone was for him after u leave a message).

anyhow, waiting for the call, I asked, cause it seemed convenient to me........if why we had sex. he said that because i was his girlfriend and he wanted to have sex with his girlfriend. i siad oh k, see then he started getting mad and before i asked i told him he might get mad, but this isn't meant in any mean way, just want an honest answer, think i know the anwer, but want to hear it from his lips.

k, so after a bit, i decide to drive. we go, things r fine................blah, we get back, yadda...............fine. I work online again and then later in the night........bar night, it was friday after all.......................we go. I was there not in automatic anger mode, but thought of what is going to happen, take it as it comes mode.

talked to people, things will be as they are mode. oh k, no problems occured.

he was oh k. i was oh k. he drank, but not like an idiot. i felt a bit uncomfortable at one point, but not his fault, i was just standing at the wrong place...........two people talking n i walked away. that was it.

then later ...... time moves. well one of his friends, this guy he has known for a super long time, i mean beyond 10 years...........way more. he is drunk, a little paranoid seems (I think is on something, pretty obvious) and tells me (he always hits on me, but brings my self esteem up and we have some really good talks too.............weird how he lsitens to me when he is plain drunk, but he was weird last night, different)...........he has a wife about to pop their first kid out..........anyhow, so the guy tells me (as i was talking to him, which is oh k, never told not to, as i respect what my bf asks me to), guy says he isn't sure why he trusts me more than he trusts my bf. he hasn't known me as long, but he trusts me more.-----i told him that he couldn't mean that, well he said he did.

(personally, I thought, oh k, guys is trashed, u go ahead n talk.........but no offense to the man i love............but he is a hypocrit.............so i can understand to a point why people trust the sober person more. i try to hold respect for people and talk to them not like they are kids or idiots at times)......but i sat down and was talking to my bf, well i was honest n i did not mean for it to come out.........but i told him what he said (even though there was more said after that), i told him what he had said n he got up all mr. badd a*s and was stepping to him, thankfully he walked back to me, cause i looked at him and said, please sit and listen to what else was said before you do something stupid.

after coaxing my bf sat....all in the bar this is happening..............my Bipolar is killing me here..................I am not doing well in the brain, but keeping my self together. BPD is about to fly people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO, won't let it happen, hold it together. Have to be rational, stay in wise mind, it is what it is. PR it!!!!

oh k, so I hold myself correctly and spin away with the rest as quick as i can, he settles. Then bf goes over to the door I keep watch and see the friend walk out, bf is near the door, but talking real close to some chick that is pretty much a leech to any guy that walks near her (he did it for my benefit, I thought it wa sa cute show for me..............I was more concerned with the confrontation stuff, not him trying to hit on some chick he alwyas tells me he can't stand the site of.................).

anyhow, kept a level head, only trouble and it would of been my fault.

Finally after closing with his bartender friend we get back n with his friend, then finally his friend leaves and he is just all ADHD. I said, l;et's go to bed it was 2:36am. he is no, i said what the heck is wrong with u, he siad i have ADHD, i said, no............you r just tired, you'll fall out when u hit the bed. well I was right as usual.

k, well now I am in pain with my back of course, my mind is sooooooooooo bipolar towards the not manic but the ugh side.

marshmallow
06-23-2007, 06:47 PM
Ever heard the song Looking for Love in all the wrong places? You are so looking for something your not getting in this relationship. I am not being critical just what I see. You struggled so much and try sooooo hard but something just isn't right. I hear pain in your posts.

bpd_bipolar
06-24-2007, 11:17 AM
I can see that as well, then there r those moments.......those few moments when i get peace n quiet n learn to get myself back to being independent again. maybe I just need to stick this out,get back to my independence slowly then do what i need to do which is either leave or stnd up completely for myself.

our doc says to both of us we both bow down to one another. which is kind of funny cause we do to a point of me more than him as i am more of the relationship give inner than he is, but he is the one who has the priorities most screwed up. if doc only knew the buzz problems with him.

bpd_bipolar
06-25-2007, 09:16 AM
it was ohk until it hit after 4 when he went to the bar with Jer. he came back then things were spoken loudly and I took off in the car n I got back and he left a note that he went to jer's, well he got back at 7 something n said now he was going to jer's.....he had been at the bar drinking the whole time.........yeah.......so, needless to say I wasn't to happy, but kept my mouth shut and just said things very quietly n a lot of oh k's n a bye came out, but got no I love you from him as he shut the door behind him. He finally came home around near 10p.....

yeah, had to copy n paste my **** from my 360 page, so that is why it is so light n edited, but ummm, that was the jist of it yesterday. see, he is so darn self fish..............freaking drinking. whole things started with a I'm going with jer to have one beer and ended on a whole nother level. him walking in the house here and me on the computer, I was trying to put together a musical puzzle, only second time and u need silence for it, u have to listen to each n every piece of it. i kept shushing them as they would do to me everytime I would ever bother them and said sorry when I could as the thing is timed and u can't pause it n then all he wanted to do was make a disc for his drunk buddy at the bar.........................an argument about the drunk a*s bar people. UGH!!!! SOOOOOOO, I stood up and couldn't hack it, you know, I moved out of the way because he was getting hard on my computer n I told him if he broke my computer I would break him.

then I said, I am not doing this again, I will not be near anything like what happened last time n I left. I got my meds, put his on the table and told him in a hoarse voice that his meds r there n he is old enough to take them himself and then I am leaving. last second he goes where u going, I said park, i have no friends, i have no where to go, not sure if it was that order.

so i drove off. he was back at the bar....read the super begininning.

anyhow, I get back to a note that says at jer's be back later. hope you feel better. love nutt. (it's part of his last name, but it is also what everyone back in the day called him and he is known by everywhere in this town because he did such insane things..............he keeps saying how he wants to get rid of it, the persona of it.......................i call him by his real first name..........he only uses that name with me when he is acting strange or out of sorts...............GO FIGURE). AGAIN go the the begininning on what happened after i read note, then he comes back from BAR, then goes to jer's.

out of here, doc appt.

bpd_bipolar
06-26-2007, 11:16 AM
My mind is in despair as I was watching WWE, wrestling last night and they announced that Chris Benoit and his wife and son were found dead in their new Georgia home that afternoon. I was sadened. they did a 3 hour tribute to him and his family. I was so sad..........today I had learned the cause of their deaths and I cried as soon as I read it.

not sure if it is proper to post teh article, so i shall give it a short tell: Chris had killed his wife n child over the weekend n then himself on monday afternoon.

police were called to chek on them after some curious messages of the texting kind were sent to friends n family that day. I can not believe that this happened and I am so borderline depressed.

other things happened last night before i knew of this 'what really happened' thing. i had taken a pretty bad fall and sprained my right forearm, hard to explain, but my big toe curled under my boyfriend as I stepped over him as i have a hundred times it has seemed to put my water bottle away, the bottle rolled my wrists n shoulder n just was painful............but i digress, this whole death thing can be read at the wwe site. don't want to get in trouble for saying that but i feel that people have a right to know about this as it is a part of the public knowledge and i did not post the article here as a kind of non depressing way for people. I do not want to trigger anyone.

right now i am going to go try to work, I am in a lot ofpain with my wrists and i am needing to get the typing done as soon as i can to rest my forearm of the right side and my wrists, both of them.

i have both hands in carpel tunnel gloves, but they aren't giving much support n my mind iss not really here to much.

i will go on with trying not to be to depressed, but this is just sadening.

bpd_bipolar
06-27-2007, 12:02 PM
my head is in a place where i thnk i am obsessin about this whole chris benoit story. i am a little involved with the wwe story stuff and want to just KNOW what really happened and i am just calling my contacts to find out as much as i can without getting them in trouble n they are helping where they can which is cool, ya know.

anyhow, i am going to go as i have to work, try to, but my mind is set on a project n i have been one mindful on this, so that is a skll my doc can be proud os, but the pbsessin g thing isn't do good, so ehhh......but i have beenm clumsy lately, hitting my arms, my wirsts are still spraine da bit, soreer than anything and back is hurting and all. anyhow mind is getting scattered have to work.................k have to get in one mindfullness and concentracte on that..........................sorry about spelling, typing is so quick here n think manic is hitting me hard biut too late for thta one..............u guys have to decipher this one.........

bpd_bipolar
06-28-2007, 12:07 PM
today i am just tired n my head is starting to ache a bit. not typing much. i have to do my work n my head it just cluttered n i am a bit anggry with this whole being a part of a group online for almost 7 years with them n one person is not happy with this whole WWE story thing with Benoit n they deleted my posts n I am not happy about it n i just ahve tio go. work to do n my wrists r really achy n shoulders r sore.

maybe i will coe back later or tomorrw. don't know. bipolar is just flying. not even manic, guess a bit. anger them sadness...........hard back n forth mmere seconds. bpd amplidfys it.

marshmallow
06-28-2007, 08:33 PM
Sorry your feeling so upset about what happened. Sometimes I cry when I hear the news it is so sad but we must not dwell on it for our own good. I hope our arm is healing and your not in too much pain.

bpd_bipolar
06-29-2007, 10:53 AM
I don't know why this story bothers me so much. I mean everyone judges him to be a murderer, which as it stands has not been proven incorrect. As of every thing thus far, it is a murder-suicide by the facts given in the news sources of trust worthy places. the officials at teh place of his work and ABC news as well.

but I need to know for some reason. I feel like i knew him but i wasn't family and i didn't know him on a major personal level. it bothers me as well that i am not automatically emotional on the band wagon with people calling him a child murderer, I am the one who is stating that we need all the facts, ME the bipolar/bpd woman who is against harming innocent children here.

something wrong with me???????? I am trying to rational in this irrational time. There are these things that happen ALL THE TIME and because he was a famous superstar that kids n adults alike idolized, that is the ONLY reason such national attention is held to it!

ridiculous in my eyes.

I just want to figure out with all the facts then I shall understand what happened along with everyone else, but I do not want to judge, I mean new facts r an everyday thing with this case, BUT the biggest fact will be the toxocology report. NOW that is the Biggest piece of the puzzle. I have everything posted, but I am not allowed to give out where on here n I do not want to get banned to help out everyone with facts,............all I can say is ****** things people. ABC is realiable news station u know. WWE took their facts down already, so I am the only one with them, that bugs me because they are the most detailed. how can u read them when I am the one with them??? don't know what to say.......... GOODY???? U OUT THERE? NNED TO TALK TO YOU...............FIND ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

my wrists r hurting pretty bad, but I neevr let them rest to heal, so they will.

k, gone for now.

goody2shuz
06-29-2007, 04:43 PM
Hi....I am sorry that you are feeling so badly in regard to Chris Bonoit....I am not a WWE fan so it is not something I am up to date with. It is a sad story from what I do hear but the report that you have you can summarize here in your own words if that will help. In any case....the entire thing is tragic for the entire family.

I am worried about you and how this is all affecting you.....you were already having a difficult time before this all happened and I am sure that it is making you feel even worse which you should be aware of. There's alot of stress in your life between what goes on with your boyfriend, your instability and how the things around you affect you. Try to realize that this situation is going to hit you alot harder than somebody who is not BP or has BPD.


So the best advice I can give you is to take care of yourself....you need to do this so that you don't get any worse. Perhaps you will need to talk with your therapist or pdoc about this as well.

IN any case....know that my thoughts are with you and that your wrists and back will be feeling better soon.

Love ~ Goody:angel::wave:

bpd_bipolar
06-30-2007, 01:43 PM
my head hurts, angry at some idiot that brought up the past with working with my company n he just drags stuff up after me emailing him for 5 years n he is just a jerk n i am in pain with my back n wirsts n i am missing the first time annual party n chris is going which is god n i am just not doing to well here.................tlak later.........

bpd_bipolar
07-01-2007, 01:21 PM
hi there. so he went n had fun, came back at 1:26a, i was on the couch, i took my sleeping pills at 10:49pm n i tried to sleep on th couch, my bak was hurting pretty bad n i dozed in n out, but woke up n wathced the clock n he got in n then i went to bed n he came in n he was drunk n passed out n that is it. told him he needs to do laundry today. wrists r so bad i can't lift basket n i need clothes to wear tomorrow for doc.

he said he'll do it, so he will, i will make sure. k well gnna go.

my mind is ehhhh

vanessa2318
07-01-2007, 07:01 PM
I can honestly say that with Borderline on top of Bipolar, you will end up exploding. Borderline basically amplifies all emotions in a person. So, if a balanced person is a little happy, a person with Borderline will be estatic. Bipolar being so extreme at times just gives the borderline something already strong to amplify more. Plus personally I think it is unhealthy not to express emotion in one way or another, if you bury it, then it tends to build up and fester. Once I started letting my emotions out when they actually happened, my crying jags lessened quit a bit. I use to just bury everything and keep on going, but it kept building up and I would find myself breaking into hysterical crying for absolutley no reason.

As far as him "helping" you change... that worries me a bit. You may have learned to control or change somethings, but good can come even from bad situations. I was in a highly abusive relationship for three years, I myself learned to control my explosive temper from the fear of being hurt, then. So yes I did get something good out of it, but the relationship itself was not good. Anytime someone tells you that you need to change this, that, and the other you should always question it somewhat. My ex was always trying to "change" me for the better and at first I went along with it to make him happy and to better myself. But eventually I realized that no matter what I changed, he would not be happy and would still tell me I need to change. It was all about control.

The whole problem with it is the Borderline Personality Disorder. People who have Borderline often have abandomnet issues and cannot stand to lose anyone close to them, especially if they are the ones to leave. Even if the person is terrible to them, the person still feels abandoned and can panic. Also the Bordeline can intensify the "love" feeling as well, making it more intense.

Is he in therapy for his BPD? I think two people that are ill can be great together if they are both getting good help, whether with meds or therapy or both. If the two people can understand their illnesses and support each other, then it maybe able to work. But then it can also backfire as well. Mutual stress can effect both of you at the same time and set both of the people off into cycling. If one goes into a mania, while the other is depressed, the manic could resent the depressed for not going and enjoying life together. I think it just depends if both are getting effective help. If one is trying and the other one isn't or is in denial, then they can bring down and discourage the one who wants help.

bpd_bipolar
07-02-2007, 11:05 AM
I thank you for your opinins and expression on this view.

There is one correction that I do need to make though, on my bf's end, he has ADHD n Bipolar.

I have BPD n Bipolar.

I have found out through the year that I do have the controlling personallity, which readin waht you just wrote, makes sense now through the examples given, well life examples anyhow........

He has gone through many things, as that is not an excuse, but I can see where my speaking out loud to myself, does seem a but "crazy" to him, annoying, yes, so I am attempting to lessen that to where it ceases in his presence. I have found out, lol, in a discussion with myself that I talk things out with myself because I have no friends left, therefore I rely on ME. I only have myself to talk to, even though there a few people who I can call to speak with, they do not fully understand the babbles I go on, the rants that I can go through when I hit mania for seconds then depression then back again............actually there is only one man I know that can keep up n his phone is screwed up, so I have only gotten to speak to him one day, a full day...........it was strange, but it was a day I needed him most, a guy (I do not trust people, long story short, back way back when chick i have known...heck now it would be about 22 years or so slept with my then boyfriend in my house while i was working to pay the bills...blah blah, I left the state, found out later, tried to o.d., blah blah, broken trust, just do not trust people NO ONE), anyhow, so i can call him a friend, but he understands n keeps up with me on my rants i go on. holds a concersation with me nicely and that is it. the only one I can talk with..........to bad that 99% of the time when I need him on the phone, there is no way to contact him except leaving a message n I think he is a bit tossed back at the fact that i did have a crush on him when i met him (married at the time, about 8 years ago) n now bf n i dating for over 4 years n all this drama going on with the old man and then i think he got the feeling that i was using him for support n then i am blowing him off even though i am not.

anyhow, as u can see, ranting n babbling, not meaning to. not sure what the heck the point is either here, just trying to say that my few things that i do like needing to be in control is something that i have done with every guy i have been with. my bf deals with it because he loves me, but because he has been dealt a messed up hand for a life prior, n guess he thinks that he is going to not deal with this chick being controlling anymore, so he put his foot down about certain things, WELL, I put my foot down back.

we love one another, we agree that we are soul mates, just i don't like the drinking. i hate that part. the drunkness of it with him. it isn't something i want to be around. or like last night with him being an angry person towards me because i would not drive when it was getting dark so he could go get smoked up by his friend because i felt a bit of a light headache coming on, PLUS the fact he knows i do not like to drive at night, i have trouble seeing.

i make exceptions for some super rare concerts we attend but that is about it.

anyhow, i have ranted n rambled long enough here. we see out psych doc today, I have to get things finished on here............

thanks for posting n hope your eyes don't bleed while u try to read all of this.

-me

barma
07-02-2007, 07:34 PM
Hi bpd bipolar-

I've read a lot of your posts and (sorry if I'm being presumptous) but it seems like a lot of the time you're just not happy at all with your bf. Is that true? It's kind of the same for me, except then there will be times I'm really happy with him. I flip flop so often, it doesn't make sense. I kind of see that in your posts and I'm just wondering if you ever question leaving him and what makes you stay? It's ok if you don't want to answer.

bpd_bipolar
07-03-2007, 11:37 AM
I thank you for asking, as I did actually ask myself one night not to long ago.

First time though I did though. I love him. I consider him my soul mate as he does me. I have never had to live let alone love a bipolar before. (he is also ADHD). I mean I have always been the bpd/bipoalr one so others have dealt with me n my symptoms, I have never had it shoved back at me to deal with.........

(saw my psych doc yesterday n we are taking me off of the topamax n have me on keppra 500mg. 2 times a day.......so, it will help me with the losing weight, but we are hoping the horrid mood swings go away, as my boyfriend said as soon as I started on the topamax I began with the most terrible mood swings n my memory was failing where it shouldn't of been..........so even though I lost weight wonderfully, it was in fact a major CON to all the PROS).

Back to the bf though. Him n I have had a rough bout n I have to put my inner demons aside with alcohol, it is VERY VERY difficult, but I think that if I can n he is willing to realize that he needs these outer drugs less, and recognize his priorities of a buzz, friends, then me, need to be switched a bit, then we can go on working well together.

he is where i used to be n I know he is a good soul, I can not walk away from someone who needs help, as he has taught me things that, I truly needed to learn I have done more introspection within over 4 years than I have over 28. ya know...........(I'm 32, but u get the point).

main thing, I am getting a dose of the adhd n bipolar life from the perspective of a person who never got it from anyone, just gave it to people, maybe we need to change his meds? have to figure it out. just need a bit of time, need to see in a few weeks if the topamax is what has caused some of the outburts that have been horrid, but see, i blame things automatiicaly on alcohol, what if it was the topamax??

I haven't thought of that yet until this second. clearity hit me as I typed to you, so THANK YOU for the question you posed n please, type more.

as of now, I fel oh k. i have bills to pay, a few bands to take onto my company, perhaps??? not much of a company when u do stuff free, but it takes up my time n busy is a good thing if it is constructive, ya know. n then myw rists need a break cause they are still sprained from my clumsy fall--LOL, I am so ungracefull.....heh

bpd_bipolar
07-04-2007, 01:05 PM
started Keppra 500mg. 2x's a day yesterday n am getting off of the topamax.

not sure if i told u guys this. anyhow, wrists hurt, so not gonna type anymore now.

later guys.

Dee-nah
07-04-2007, 01:12 PM
hey you, I have a thread called Intrusive Thinking... I want to know your intake on this since I like what you have to say on issues with BP... When you feel up to it take a peek, okay!

Hope all is well, I've been thinking of you...

bpd_bipolar
07-05-2007, 11:29 AM
Not a problem. Thaks for thinking of me n I am oh k, I think I am getting used to this med...well I am trying anyhow. I was getting manically rather upset a bit at 2am this morning when I was wanting to go to bed at 1:30am n bf was on the computer cause he said it would be real quick, famouse words from him n i tell him not to ever say them cause they are a lie. it bugs me cause my parent will be here today n they make me crazy in that case just cause i feel like i have to please them.....he sayd f-them, they can't love u for u then what the heck witht hem, but it isn't that way with them. mom n step dad aren't him n his parents, just a lot of different stuff, but he is there withm me at dinner n he lets things fall upon him, it is nice the way he buffers things, i vacuumed at 1:30am while he was on the darn computer n got the couch sprayeed since the guys all got smoked last night n then swept the kitchen flor. i was so beat, then we got to bed at 2am n i fell out after around 2:10a n was up around 8a or a bit after.

i am whooped, but oh boy.

still hurt wrists n i know they will be saying i look high but the new med is making me this way n i just am not at the caring point here. bf is not making it easier with the if they say something i will tell them i am not coming with u guys..................he is copping out n then it will be worse for me, just what i need, self fish on his part, but ya know, whatever i will deal with it if i have to, i always do what i need to.

haven't seen them in a few years.

k, well off to finish work before i go n rest a bit then try to relax before they show.

ugh, if i don't get thread today, remind me tomorrow. maybe i will look now.





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