munchie11
03-16-2007, 08:01 AM
I haven't drank in like 2 years and tonight I made the decision to drink. Life sux and is just so boring lately and very depressing. I feel better now, but I know I'll be even more depressed when I wake up in the morning and have to face things againg. But why not say f*** it sometimes and just give in??????????????? Life just sux dosn't it...........
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sharonamy
03-16-2007, 09:44 AM
I haven't drank in like 2 years and tonight I made the decision to drink. Life sux and is just so boring lately and very depressing. I feel better now, but I know I'll be even more depressed when I wake up in the morning and have to face things againg. But why not say f*** it sometimes and just give in??????????????? Life just sux dosn't it...........
MunchiexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxYes, it sure does. I am undiagnosed 30 years waiting for diagonis. Have been on anti depressants over 20 years and also selfmedicating every night !!! since then to calm down.................am now on librium and finding it v. hard
MunchiexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxYes, it sure does. I am undiagnosed 30 years waiting for diagonis. Have been on anti depressants over 20 years and also selfmedicating every night !!! since then to calm down.................am now on librium and finding it v. hard
gortian
04-14-2007, 03:38 AM
I haven't drank in like 2 years and tonight I made the decision to drink. Life sux and is just so boring lately and very depressing. I feel better now, but I know I'll be even more depressed when I wake up in the morning and have to face things againg. But why not say f*** it sometimes and just give in??????????????? Life just sux dosn't it...........
Munchiexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
As long as I take my meds on a daily basis, I don't have a desire to
self-medicate (alcohol and drug abuse).
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As long as I take my meds on a daily basis, I don't have a desire to
self-medicate (alcohol and drug abuse).
jgr01
04-14-2007, 08:01 AM
Well, since I've been on my meds initially i had no desire, but with a house move, and birthday (mine) i did feel the need to have a drink. Sometimes i choose to have a drink because i like it - btw when i say have a drink I mean proper drink. I generally have a small glass of wine everyday with dinner, but plenty of water too. When I get extra stress the meds don't seem as effective - that's well documented. Of course I have already built up an unhealthy relationship with drugs and alcohol over the years even on meds (didn't realise the comorbidity) not so that i am an alcoholic, just alcohol dependent in certain situations.
In short, I have a day or two binge, know exactly how I will feel afterwards and then have to struggle for a couple extra days not just to fall back into drinking and stopping the meds being effective.
You know you shouldn't drink/drugs; if you do don't kick yourself even more, just get back on the wagon to sanity.
Juliet
In short, I have a day or two binge, know exactly how I will feel afterwards and then have to struggle for a couple extra days not just to fall back into drinking and stopping the meds being effective.
You know you shouldn't drink/drugs; if you do don't kick yourself even more, just get back on the wagon to sanity.
Juliet
Dee-nah
04-14-2007, 09:45 AM
Wow.. I hope everything is okay! I never self medicated but I do see why one would... When you wake up in the morning act like it's a new day and don't go backwards!! If you beat yourself for something you did you are defeating the whole purpose of moving on and thinking positive. This disorder is a lot harder to handle then I thought especially when your so caught up in either the depression or the mania, give yourself a break, what's done is done....
cellerby
04-14-2007, 10:28 AM
i drink alot and for a few years i thought this was actually the cause of my problems. so as a little experiment i stopped drinking for a month since ive been back from uni on easter break. it hasnt stopped me from overdosing and having a short temper though
the only slight difference has been that it is less extreme. when i start drinking my moods can change in a drop of a hat. one from extreme happiness to suicidal thoughts.
it gets really depressing sometimes because i dont want to give up socialising and drinking. My friends think that i am just generally nuts and i have done a few stupid things in the past like writing on their fridge on permanant ink about how much i hate men and then suddenly pull every man in the nightclub which is ridiculous when i look back on it lol.
the only slight difference has been that it is less extreme. when i start drinking my moods can change in a drop of a hat. one from extreme happiness to suicidal thoughts.
it gets really depressing sometimes because i dont want to give up socialising and drinking. My friends think that i am just generally nuts and i have done a few stupid things in the past like writing on their fridge on permanant ink about how much i hate men and then suddenly pull every man in the nightclub which is ridiculous when i look back on it lol.
jgr01
04-14-2007, 11:03 AM
i didn't know i was BP at Uni....I was the BIGGEST animal on my year (Sports Science) generally knocking back 10 pts with diamond white/elephant beer snakebite plus mad dog chasers....Day in day out. Started cocaine and vodka outside Uni. I actually 'get' the levelling out feeling from cocaine and vodka when i'm manic which helps me understand why I use it to medicate myself.. I know you don't want to give it up - just be aware alcohol is a mood alterer and if you must, have a pint of water with every drink....you don't get such a hangover and deep depression the following day. You will only learn the damage it causes by experience. I can only advise not to do it....
Artemis9
04-28-2007, 04:28 AM
Hello Munchie,
Everyone on the thread gave you good advice, but do not beat yourself up. (I hope I don't get flamed for typing what I'm about to type) We all self-medicate. The fact is that we live in a drug culture, and whether it is caffeine, alcohol, energy drinks, pot, or chocolate, we ALL have self-medicated at some point in our lives. I don't want to advocate risky behavior, but I work for a psychiatric, scholarly journal and I just read a study that showed that chubby folks with major depression are at a much lower risk for suicide than thin folks with major depressive disorder: the reason given was good-old fashioned self medication, in this case through comfort eating and foods that are natural mood elevators, like chocolate.
Again, I don't want you to do anything that might imperil your life, but I do want you to know that I understand. My husband and I are both on pharmacologic therapy, but we still feel the need to self-medicate with alcohol or (in my case) Xanex when everything gets a little too heavy and/or stressful for our psychotropic meds to handle.
You are an adult, you know your limits. Just be careful and know that you shouldn't feel ashamed. If you start to feel like alcohol is hurting and/or impairing your life, then stop using it. I just want you to know that you are not alone, and that this board has lots of compassionate people on it who will offer advice without judging you.
Be Well,
Artemis
Everyone on the thread gave you good advice, but do not beat yourself up. (I hope I don't get flamed for typing what I'm about to type) We all self-medicate. The fact is that we live in a drug culture, and whether it is caffeine, alcohol, energy drinks, pot, or chocolate, we ALL have self-medicated at some point in our lives. I don't want to advocate risky behavior, but I work for a psychiatric, scholarly journal and I just read a study that showed that chubby folks with major depression are at a much lower risk for suicide than thin folks with major depressive disorder: the reason given was good-old fashioned self medication, in this case through comfort eating and foods that are natural mood elevators, like chocolate.
Again, I don't want you to do anything that might imperil your life, but I do want you to know that I understand. My husband and I are both on pharmacologic therapy, but we still feel the need to self-medicate with alcohol or (in my case) Xanex when everything gets a little too heavy and/or stressful for our psychotropic meds to handle.
You are an adult, you know your limits. Just be careful and know that you shouldn't feel ashamed. If you start to feel like alcohol is hurting and/or impairing your life, then stop using it. I just want you to know that you are not alone, and that this board has lots of compassionate people on it who will offer advice without judging you.
Be Well,
Artemis
Artemis9
04-28-2007, 04:30 AM
Cocaine levels out lots of folks in a manic state...think ritalin for ppl with ADHD.
marshmallow
04-28-2007, 07:47 AM
Artemis what you wrote about cocaine bothers me. Not really good advise but I guess its not my business.
bipolarbear
04-28-2007, 05:00 PM
Cocaine levels out lots of folks in a manic state...think ritalin for ppl with ADHD.
I'm not a doctor; however, from a common sense point of view, I think what you said is absurd and irresponsible. Where and how did you come up with this pearl of wisdom? Give me a break.
I'm not a doctor; however, from a common sense point of view, I think what you said is absurd and irresponsible. Where and how did you come up with this pearl of wisdom? Give me a break.
munchie11
04-29-2007, 12:05 AM
Hi everyone
I wrote this thread about six weeks ago I think, so just giving you guys an update. I haven't had a drink since that night and I have been stable and feeling great ever since. I began taking Seroquel to help me sleep and now I sleep every night and can function really well during the day. I don't feel the need to drink at all, as I normally want to when I'm depressed, then the alcohol contributes to my depression as well, and it becomes a hard habit to get out of, but at the moment all is well, (great actually) and I hope it stays this way.
Munchiexxxxxxxxxxx
I wrote this thread about six weeks ago I think, so just giving you guys an update. I haven't had a drink since that night and I have been stable and feeling great ever since. I began taking Seroquel to help me sleep and now I sleep every night and can function really well during the day. I don't feel the need to drink at all, as I normally want to when I'm depressed, then the alcohol contributes to my depression as well, and it becomes a hard habit to get out of, but at the moment all is well, (great actually) and I hope it stays this way.
Munchiexxxxxxxxxxx
goody2shuz
04-29-2007, 12:22 AM
This is great news, Munchie:blob_fire Congrats on taking your meds and staying away from the alcohol....and for having a knowledge of what it is that you need to do to get closer to stability and maintaining it.:D
I am happy that the Seroquel is working for you. Thanks for sharing the good news with us.
Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:
I am happy that the Seroquel is working for you. Thanks for sharing the good news with us.
Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:
martavee
04-29-2007, 01:52 PM
Hi Munchie - what dose of Seroquel are you taking and are you taking anything else? Sorry if you've written about it elsewhere, but my attention span to read/look up things is quite low these days. The reason why I ask about Seroquel is because I have started this medication as well and only this medication. I'm a bit frustrated at the moment because I've gone backwards in how I feel, if that makes sense. Initially I was doing better. Le sigh, so it's just frustrating that I had a glimpse of feeling better only to feel bad again.
zader
04-29-2007, 02:54 PM
I too have stopped drinking and it makes a world of difference. Interestingly, I am now on seroqual 50mg, and I sleep very well. It also helps keep the mind chatter down during the day.
zader
04-29-2007, 02:59 PM
I'm not a doctor; however, from a common sense point of view, I think what you said is absurd and irresponsible. Where and how did you come up with this pearl of wisdom? Give me a break.
I can understand why people do not like this quote, however; I have used cocaine excessively in the past, but do not now, but I can tell you first hand - it did have a calming effect on me. HOWEVER...although it may have properties that help the brain temporarily like other drugs, the eventual effects of use and abuse will destroy your life and not in ANY way help you. You cannot control the dosage of a drug like that, nor can you rely on it balancing you in any way. If that were the case, we would have time released coke pills.
Hope this makes sense.
I can understand why people do not like this quote, however; I have used cocaine excessively in the past, but do not now, but I can tell you first hand - it did have a calming effect on me. HOWEVER...although it may have properties that help the brain temporarily like other drugs, the eventual effects of use and abuse will destroy your life and not in ANY way help you. You cannot control the dosage of a drug like that, nor can you rely on it balancing you in any way. If that were the case, we would have time released coke pills.
Hope this makes sense.
zader
04-29-2007, 03:01 PM
I experienced the same. How much seroqual do you take? It's amazing what not drinking and the right drugs will do for you.
Sorry, this was from Munchies quote.
Sorry, this was from Munchies quote.
zader
04-29-2007, 03:09 PM
I haven't drank in like 2 years and tonight I made the decision to drink. Life sux and is just so boring lately and very depressing. I feel better now, but I know I'll be even more depressed when I wake up in the morning and have to face things againg. But why not say f*** it sometimes and just give in??????????????? Life just sux dosn't it...........
Munchiexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
life only suxs when you embrace that perspective. It's easy to fall into the downward spiral. There is no simple answer, but you must stay away from drugs and drinking - they will take you down fast and hard.
Munchiexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
life only suxs when you embrace that perspective. It's easy to fall into the downward spiral. There is no simple answer, but you must stay away from drugs and drinking - they will take you down fast and hard.
CASSIE711
04-29-2007, 06:05 PM
Hi everyone
I wrote this thread about six weeks ago I think, so just giving you guys an update. I haven't had a drink since that night and I have been stable and feeling great ever since. I began taking Seroquel to help me sleep and now I sleep every night and can function really well during the day. I don't feel the need to drink at all, as I normally want to when I'm depressed, then the alcohol contributes to my depression as well, and it becomes a hard habit to get out of, but at the moment all is well, (great actually) and I hope it stays this way.
Munchiexxxxxxxxxxx
Great job, Munchie!! And you said you went 2 years without drinking before, which is great! I've only gone 2 weeks so far without drinking (after drinking pretty consistently/heavily for 3 years) , but I already feel soooo much better than when I was drinking. I've noticed I have a lot more energy, I'm more likely now to do the everyday things (wash clothes, pay bills, etc) that I neglected before. I've started doing random home improvement projects as well, mostly to keep myself busy at night. I'm also on Seroquel, which I feel helps me sleep a LOT better (hence I'm no longer drinking to "get to sleep"/shut my brain off like I did before!!) Anyway, enough about me, I just wanted to say I think you're doing great, and hopefully I can keep it up like you are :D Take care!
Cassie
I wrote this thread about six weeks ago I think, so just giving you guys an update. I haven't had a drink since that night and I have been stable and feeling great ever since. I began taking Seroquel to help me sleep and now I sleep every night and can function really well during the day. I don't feel the need to drink at all, as I normally want to when I'm depressed, then the alcohol contributes to my depression as well, and it becomes a hard habit to get out of, but at the moment all is well, (great actually) and I hope it stays this way.
Munchiexxxxxxxxxxx
Great job, Munchie!! And you said you went 2 years without drinking before, which is great! I've only gone 2 weeks so far without drinking (after drinking pretty consistently/heavily for 3 years) , but I already feel soooo much better than when I was drinking. I've noticed I have a lot more energy, I'm more likely now to do the everyday things (wash clothes, pay bills, etc) that I neglected before. I've started doing random home improvement projects as well, mostly to keep myself busy at night. I'm also on Seroquel, which I feel helps me sleep a LOT better (hence I'm no longer drinking to "get to sleep"/shut my brain off like I did before!!) Anyway, enough about me, I just wanted to say I think you're doing great, and hopefully I can keep it up like you are :D Take care!
Cassie
munchie11
04-29-2007, 06:18 PM
Hi guys
Thanks for all your support. Yes, I agree, I believe we should stay completely away from alcohol and drugs (it does get hard, when you're not well though, I've been there many times). Zader, I started with 400mg of Seroquel, just to knock me out at night, after I had no sleep for ages. But, now I only take a maintanance dose of 100mg, which works wonders.
Munchiexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks for all your support. Yes, I agree, I believe we should stay completely away from alcohol and drugs (it does get hard, when you're not well though, I've been there many times). Zader, I started with 400mg of Seroquel, just to knock me out at night, after I had no sleep for ages. But, now I only take a maintanance dose of 100mg, which works wonders.
Munchiexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Artemis9
05-01-2007, 11:57 AM
I can understand why people do not like this quote, however; I have used cocaine excessively in the past, but do not now, but I can tell you first hand - it did have a calming effect on me. HOWEVER...although it may have properties that help the brain temporarily like other drugs, the eventual effects of use and abuse will destroy your life and not in ANY way help you. You cannot control the dosage of a drug like that, nor can you rely on it balancing you in any way. If that were the case, we would have time released coke pills.
Hope this makes sense.
Thank you, Z. I did not intend to advocate the use of illegal narcotics, but this post was about self-medication...so I thought my comment about cocaine was germaine to the thread. I apologize if I offneded anyone. However, I would also ask folks to keep in mind that just because someone states a fact, like behavior she has observed, does not mean that she is advocating that behavior.
Thanks,
Artemis
Hope this makes sense.
Thank you, Z. I did not intend to advocate the use of illegal narcotics, but this post was about self-medication...so I thought my comment about cocaine was germaine to the thread. I apologize if I offneded anyone. However, I would also ask folks to keep in mind that just because someone states a fact, like behavior she has observed, does not mean that she is advocating that behavior.
Thanks,
Artemis