ricksan
04-04-2007, 12:13 PM
Since it only received FDA approval a month ago, I'm assuming that nobody has any experience with Tekturna yet.
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brownie2
04-14-2007, 01:59 PM
Since it only received FDA approval a month ago, I'm assuming that nobody has any experience with Tekturna yet.
My Dr. on Thursday gave me 16 week supply of Tekturna for when my Tarka runs out . I feel like a lab mouse. He said they are not making Tarka anymore.
I can't find anything about them stopping Tarka. If he is not telling me the truth it's time for a new Dr. My BP on Tarka is very good.
My Dr. on Thursday gave me 16 week supply of Tekturna for when my Tarka runs out . I feel like a lab mouse. He said they are not making Tarka anymore.
I can't find anything about them stopping Tarka. If he is not telling me the truth it's time for a new Dr. My BP on Tarka is very good.
stars13
04-14-2007, 03:43 PM
My endroconologist wants to put me on tekturna. i havn't heard from my dr. yet about it. endro is suppose to suggest it to him. i'm having a heck of a time on my meds right now, benicar hct and cardizem.
endro seems to thin k i will do very well on teckturna. i hope so.
Brownie, please let me know how you'r doing on it. i think i'm calling my dr. monday to find out what the delay is. it's been 3 weeks since i've seen the endro dr.. i expected to hear from my dr. by now. i'm so sick on what i'm taking now.
stars
endro seems to thin k i will do very well on teckturna. i hope so.
Brownie, please let me know how you'r doing on it. i think i'm calling my dr. monday to find out what the delay is. it's been 3 weeks since i've seen the endro dr.. i expected to hear from my dr. by now. i'm so sick on what i'm taking now.
stars
bethsheba
04-20-2007, 01:25 PM
I've just read that this drug was tested on 1250 people for more than a year...(although about 7000 people tested the drug) and it "seemed" to have fewer side effects that other bp meds.
Bsheba
Bsheba
stars13
04-20-2007, 03:22 PM
Bsheba, yep, i got the script filled. haven't tried it yet. it really wasn't too expensive. the company took 25. off and i paid 50some. i thought it would be much more then that.(this has not gone through my insurance yet).
When i have some time, today's not a good day, i'd really like your opinion on some things. you seem so knowledgable about so many meds. and i believe we have been on some of the same meds.
you see, right now my numbers are great on benicar, hct, and cardizem, but i never feel good. pains and nausea , can't sleep........... just can't figure out which one is doing it, if any...
so confused.......but will talk to you later, thanks in advance for listening to my rants.
stars
When i have some time, today's not a good day, i'd really like your opinion on some things. you seem so knowledgable about so many meds. and i believe we have been on some of the same meds.
you see, right now my numbers are great on benicar, hct, and cardizem, but i never feel good. pains and nausea , can't sleep........... just can't figure out which one is doing it, if any...
so confused.......but will talk to you later, thanks in advance for listening to my rants.
stars
bethsheba
04-21-2007, 12:15 AM
Oh Stars,
You're not ranting to me...we speak the same language, me thinks. Am glad you picked up the new medicine...and I am surprised at the cost. I think my current rx is about 85 bucks a month and I pay all out of pocket. This is for a drug that will go generic, next month so the cost for new drug is expensive but not outrageous, right?
I would be happy to offer my opinions on drugs that I've been on (which includes hydrochlorothiazide, benicar/hct, lisinopril, atenolol, and now Norvasc) not that anyone wanted to know, groan.
Confusion and exhaustion I understand. Anytime you want to talk, just let me know. I'm usually on the computer early in the am...rarely at night.
Hope you'll be feeling better.
Bsheba
You're not ranting to me...we speak the same language, me thinks. Am glad you picked up the new medicine...and I am surprised at the cost. I think my current rx is about 85 bucks a month and I pay all out of pocket. This is for a drug that will go generic, next month so the cost for new drug is expensive but not outrageous, right?
I would be happy to offer my opinions on drugs that I've been on (which includes hydrochlorothiazide, benicar/hct, lisinopril, atenolol, and now Norvasc) not that anyone wanted to know, groan.
Confusion and exhaustion I understand. Anytime you want to talk, just let me know. I'm usually on the computer early in the am...rarely at night.
Hope you'll be feeling better.
Bsheba
stars13
04-21-2007, 10:34 AM
OK Bsheba, let me try to condense this, i could write a book:eek: .It's so good to have someone to talk to.
i'm 59 and have been on bp meds for about 16 yrs. been on accupril,hyzaar, norvasc, dynacirc, diovan, and now, for a few years been on benicar, hydrochlorothiazide, and cardizem la.
problems started last june, and at the time i was also on lescol for hc. have had the same problem with hc meds, have been on many and have sworn off them all since june.
Problem is i have just felt sick every day, just not right . and it seemed every4 or 5 weeks i would start having such muscle/joint pain and nausea.It would last a few weeks then slowly go away. Would complain constantly to doc., would see him almost every 3 weeks it seemed. he put me through tons of tests, tons of tests. everything fine. and then, as i told Paul in another thread, he sent me to gi doc. put me through colonoscopy, endoscopy and hida. found out about gb, took care of that. but now i'm still having muscle/joint pain on and off.
Now, let me go back a bit, bear with me, i'm trying not to be too confusing:dizzy: . Since june, i've been telling him that i think it's meds doing this. also i was having sever fatigue when i would have these episodes. this of course is also a side effect of both meds. ok, first thing he did was take me off lescol. the lescol was giving me a deep pain in my armpit/chest:dizzy: . that pain went away within a week but left my arm feeling very weak and tingly for a few months. but still not feeling good. but i let it go because this combo of bp meds was really keeping my bpdown.
Then in oct. i had a horrible time, spent most of the month in bed with pain and nausea. he even gave me lexapro at this time, which made me sicker. only took it for a week. i know he thinks i'm nuts. A few months later is when we started the gi doc. so after deciding that gb had to come out i talked to him before haning surgery. asking him point blank how a sick gb could cause all my problems, pain, not sleeping, ect. i asked him if it wasn't meds, could i have ms? fibromyalgia? anything? he said no to ms and fibro, but maybe adrenal gland not working. he suggested i have gb out, recup and seehim in another 6 months and we'll go to an endrocronologist from there. :rolleyes: This was in Jan. surgery was scheduled for march 6. so come mid feb. still sick, i decided not to wait another 6 months and seen endro. all my glands are fine, but he found an elevated renin count. suggested the tekturna.
so here i am , with the new med, and my dr. wanted me to just add it to the regime i'm already on. i said i think these meds are what 's making me sick, so he told me to stop the benicar and add the tekturna and see him in 3 weeks. well, i haven't done it yet. last night i didn't take the cardizem because it had been making me sick again, nausous, and i can't sleep when i take it a few days and i needed to sleep.
:eek: something important i forgot to say. for the last 7/8 months the way i've been taking these meds is this way, benicar40mg, hct, and cardizem. when i would get too nauseus and unable to sleep at all i would drop the cardizem and take benicar 40mg, hct in am. and another 20mg benicar at night. I would do this for probably 6 weeks when joint and muscle pain would start, sometimes it become unbearable. then i would go back to cardizem and drop the 20 mg benicar. both docs. know i do this and say it's alright.
but this is why i know the meds are a major problem. cardizem causes no sleep and digestive problems, too much benicar causes pain. hct?:confused:
sorry this is soooo long and confusing. what do you think about this mess?
stars
i'm 59 and have been on bp meds for about 16 yrs. been on accupril,hyzaar, norvasc, dynacirc, diovan, and now, for a few years been on benicar, hydrochlorothiazide, and cardizem la.
problems started last june, and at the time i was also on lescol for hc. have had the same problem with hc meds, have been on many and have sworn off them all since june.
Problem is i have just felt sick every day, just not right . and it seemed every4 or 5 weeks i would start having such muscle/joint pain and nausea.It would last a few weeks then slowly go away. Would complain constantly to doc., would see him almost every 3 weeks it seemed. he put me through tons of tests, tons of tests. everything fine. and then, as i told Paul in another thread, he sent me to gi doc. put me through colonoscopy, endoscopy and hida. found out about gb, took care of that. but now i'm still having muscle/joint pain on and off.
Now, let me go back a bit, bear with me, i'm trying not to be too confusing:dizzy: . Since june, i've been telling him that i think it's meds doing this. also i was having sever fatigue when i would have these episodes. this of course is also a side effect of both meds. ok, first thing he did was take me off lescol. the lescol was giving me a deep pain in my armpit/chest:dizzy: . that pain went away within a week but left my arm feeling very weak and tingly for a few months. but still not feeling good. but i let it go because this combo of bp meds was really keeping my bpdown.
Then in oct. i had a horrible time, spent most of the month in bed with pain and nausea. he even gave me lexapro at this time, which made me sicker. only took it for a week. i know he thinks i'm nuts. A few months later is when we started the gi doc. so after deciding that gb had to come out i talked to him before haning surgery. asking him point blank how a sick gb could cause all my problems, pain, not sleeping, ect. i asked him if it wasn't meds, could i have ms? fibromyalgia? anything? he said no to ms and fibro, but maybe adrenal gland not working. he suggested i have gb out, recup and seehim in another 6 months and we'll go to an endrocronologist from there. :rolleyes: This was in Jan. surgery was scheduled for march 6. so come mid feb. still sick, i decided not to wait another 6 months and seen endro. all my glands are fine, but he found an elevated renin count. suggested the tekturna.
so here i am , with the new med, and my dr. wanted me to just add it to the regime i'm already on. i said i think these meds are what 's making me sick, so he told me to stop the benicar and add the tekturna and see him in 3 weeks. well, i haven't done it yet. last night i didn't take the cardizem because it had been making me sick again, nausous, and i can't sleep when i take it a few days and i needed to sleep.
:eek: something important i forgot to say. for the last 7/8 months the way i've been taking these meds is this way, benicar40mg, hct, and cardizem. when i would get too nauseus and unable to sleep at all i would drop the cardizem and take benicar 40mg, hct in am. and another 20mg benicar at night. I would do this for probably 6 weeks when joint and muscle pain would start, sometimes it become unbearable. then i would go back to cardizem and drop the 20 mg benicar. both docs. know i do this and say it's alright.
but this is why i know the meds are a major problem. cardizem causes no sleep and digestive problems, too much benicar causes pain. hct?:confused:
sorry this is soooo long and confusing. what do you think about this mess?
stars
bethsheba
04-21-2007, 10:46 AM
Stars,
Because I think you are reading the boards now, I'm just going to say 3 things.
1. You are NOT crazy...
2. I always think it's the meds, until someone proves me wrong.
3. I'm going to have some time to reflect on this...
sometimes I think a little better after I've been in the garden.
Bsheba
Because I think you are reading the boards now, I'm just going to say 3 things.
1. You are NOT crazy...
2. I always think it's the meds, until someone proves me wrong.
3. I'm going to have some time to reflect on this...
sometimes I think a little better after I've been in the garden.
Bsheba
bethsheba
04-21-2007, 10:49 AM
...problems started last june, and at the time i was also on lescol for hc. have had the same problem with hc meds, have been on many and have sworn off them all since june.
Stars, I need some clarification here...what does hc stand for? When you say "them" could you be more specific?
Thanks,
Bsheba
Stars, I need some clarification here...what does hc stand for? When you say "them" could you be more specific?
Thanks,
Bsheba
stars13
04-21-2007, 11:38 AM
hc............high cholesterol them........statins yep, i know, ijust went on and on. sorry. it must of been cathartic though, it gave me the courage to pop the pill. well, we'll see what happens.
stars
stars
stars13
04-21-2007, 12:00 PM
Re reading my post i see it truly is so confusing. i have so much to say and am not very articulate about it.
one thing that needs explaining is when i would change the way i would take the meds, i would almost immediate relief from the problem, whether it was the nauseau or the backpain/joint/muscle pain. and it would last weeks before a problem returned. but as time went, the good times lasted for a shorter and shorter period. now when i start taking the cardizem, in only 2or3 days the stomach starts turning.
when on all three pills my bp runs 105/68 gernerally, when i stop cardiqem it runs 138/90 and keeps rising. i don't feel well at 138/90
what a vicious cycle.
thanks bsheba, for listening................stars
one thing that needs explaining is when i would change the way i would take the meds, i would almost immediate relief from the problem, whether it was the nauseau or the backpain/joint/muscle pain. and it would last weeks before a problem returned. but as time went, the good times lasted for a shorter and shorter period. now when i start taking the cardizem, in only 2or3 days the stomach starts turning.
when on all three pills my bp runs 105/68 gernerally, when i stop cardiqem it runs 138/90 and keeps rising. i don't feel well at 138/90
what a vicious cycle.
thanks bsheba, for listening................stars
bethsheba
04-21-2007, 03:22 PM
Re reading my post i see it truly is so confusing. i have so much to say and am not very articulate about it.
You do have much to say, you are able to summarize and articulate a complex situation succinctly, you know your own body and you are smart to listen to what it is telling you (not everyone is able to do this!) Now give yourself a pat on the back because you deserve it.:) :)
one thing that needs explaining is when i would change the way i would take the meds, i would almost immediate relief from the problem, whether it was the nauseau or the backpain/joint/muscle pain. and it would last weeks before a problem returned. but as time went, the good times lasted for a shorter and shorter period. now when i start taking the cardizem, in only 2or3 days the stomach starts turning.
Because you're experiencing almost immediate relief from the problem when you change the way you take the meds I would assume it was a problem with medication (I would have assumed med problem first anyway, but your doctors have more or less confirmed this because they found no other obvious cause--I get angry because one doesn't have to take lots of tests to find out it's not the drugs...they just have to disco the drug but then they wouldn't make as much money:dizzy: !!).
Just because your good times are lasting for shorter and shorter periods, doesn't mean it isn't side effects. Our bodies can become more sensitive to something the longer we are exposed to it, and it can take our bodies longer and longer to process and rid our system of the drugs (and side effects) especially as we get older!
The obedient soul I was, I took the hctz daily, only missing doses when Id sleep around the clock. Hydrocholorthiazide caused me excruciating shoulder, back, and joint pain but these pains came and went for days, weeks, or months at a time despite daily dosing...the unbelievable exhaustion was something I experienced on an hourly basis, throughout the entire period.
Benicar/Hydroclorothiazide caused body aches, restless leg and arms, and extreme fatigue...again, although I took my dose daily, the symptoms would vary in frequency and intensity. So as far as those muscle aches and pains and the exhaustion go, I would definitely suspect those meds!
As far as the cardizem, I haven't been on it but I did look up the side effects and they include nausea/upset stomach, sleep problems, and excessive tiredness.
So all of your pills can be causing your "problem" symptoms. I've been told that docs prescibe more than 1 drug at small doses to minimize the side effects...sounds to me like your drugs are maximizing the side effects. That said, I would suggest you have a heart to heart with a good pharmacist and find out how you can go about getting off of ALL of them...mind you, don't take yourself off without a doctor's advice...but you do need to be knowlegable enough to challenge that doctor of yours and insist on only one medication. I would encourage you to work with your health care professionals to take only ONE DRUG AT A TIME until you can figure out what's working and what's not...obviously, the three meds are not working even though they are keeping your numbers down. If your doctor doesn't want to do this, ask him why, write down the answer, and then do some doctor shopping. (Oh, and that extra renin in your system, it is my understanding that ACE inhibitors and ARB's create increased renin which in turn increases the blood pressure, and yes, on goes the cycle--I don't know if cardizem falls into that category or not but you've got to wonder how much these drugs contribute to creating high blood pressure).
Unlike some older bp meds that "interfere" with the production of renin, the new drug, Tekturna, is supposed to stop the renin in its tracks, which means that too much renin won't be produced thus avoiding the "viscious cycle". Because of this, they hope it may offer some protection for people with specials conditions like kidney disease, heart failure, and diabetes...but they have yet to prove this.
when i stop cardiqem it runs 138/90 and keeps rising. i don't feel well at 138/90
There is a rebound effect with some meds, I think Lenin might be the one to ask about this..when I've gone off some meds, my pressures go higher for a while before they settle "down". Maybe it has to do with the overproduction of renin, but I don't know. Again, I would check with a good pharmacist and ask him if this applies to you and the medications you want to discontinue.
Last but not least, after being on bp meds for 16 years, have you ever considered asking a doctor about going off meds to see what your pressures would be? I don't know if it's probable or possible, but it does make me wonder...
Stars, these are just my thoughts and opinions. I have no medical degree, just a lot of experience with side effects and a very sincere concern for your well being. I think its the 12 steps groups who say, "take what you need, and leave the rest".
I'm wishing you the best, Stars. I'm sure you'll do fine...you're thinking, questioning, and taking charge! All of the things one must do in this day and age to keep ourselves healthy.
Oh, and please keep in touch...
Bsheba
You do have much to say, you are able to summarize and articulate a complex situation succinctly, you know your own body and you are smart to listen to what it is telling you (not everyone is able to do this!) Now give yourself a pat on the back because you deserve it.:) :)
one thing that needs explaining is when i would change the way i would take the meds, i would almost immediate relief from the problem, whether it was the nauseau or the backpain/joint/muscle pain. and it would last weeks before a problem returned. but as time went, the good times lasted for a shorter and shorter period. now when i start taking the cardizem, in only 2or3 days the stomach starts turning.
Because you're experiencing almost immediate relief from the problem when you change the way you take the meds I would assume it was a problem with medication (I would have assumed med problem first anyway, but your doctors have more or less confirmed this because they found no other obvious cause--I get angry because one doesn't have to take lots of tests to find out it's not the drugs...they just have to disco the drug but then they wouldn't make as much money:dizzy: !!).
Just because your good times are lasting for shorter and shorter periods, doesn't mean it isn't side effects. Our bodies can become more sensitive to something the longer we are exposed to it, and it can take our bodies longer and longer to process and rid our system of the drugs (and side effects) especially as we get older!
The obedient soul I was, I took the hctz daily, only missing doses when Id sleep around the clock. Hydrocholorthiazide caused me excruciating shoulder, back, and joint pain but these pains came and went for days, weeks, or months at a time despite daily dosing...the unbelievable exhaustion was something I experienced on an hourly basis, throughout the entire period.
Benicar/Hydroclorothiazide caused body aches, restless leg and arms, and extreme fatigue...again, although I took my dose daily, the symptoms would vary in frequency and intensity. So as far as those muscle aches and pains and the exhaustion go, I would definitely suspect those meds!
As far as the cardizem, I haven't been on it but I did look up the side effects and they include nausea/upset stomach, sleep problems, and excessive tiredness.
So all of your pills can be causing your "problem" symptoms. I've been told that docs prescibe more than 1 drug at small doses to minimize the side effects...sounds to me like your drugs are maximizing the side effects. That said, I would suggest you have a heart to heart with a good pharmacist and find out how you can go about getting off of ALL of them...mind you, don't take yourself off without a doctor's advice...but you do need to be knowlegable enough to challenge that doctor of yours and insist on only one medication. I would encourage you to work with your health care professionals to take only ONE DRUG AT A TIME until you can figure out what's working and what's not...obviously, the three meds are not working even though they are keeping your numbers down. If your doctor doesn't want to do this, ask him why, write down the answer, and then do some doctor shopping. (Oh, and that extra renin in your system, it is my understanding that ACE inhibitors and ARB's create increased renin which in turn increases the blood pressure, and yes, on goes the cycle--I don't know if cardizem falls into that category or not but you've got to wonder how much these drugs contribute to creating high blood pressure).
Unlike some older bp meds that "interfere" with the production of renin, the new drug, Tekturna, is supposed to stop the renin in its tracks, which means that too much renin won't be produced thus avoiding the "viscious cycle". Because of this, they hope it may offer some protection for people with specials conditions like kidney disease, heart failure, and diabetes...but they have yet to prove this.
when i stop cardiqem it runs 138/90 and keeps rising. i don't feel well at 138/90
There is a rebound effect with some meds, I think Lenin might be the one to ask about this..when I've gone off some meds, my pressures go higher for a while before they settle "down". Maybe it has to do with the overproduction of renin, but I don't know. Again, I would check with a good pharmacist and ask him if this applies to you and the medications you want to discontinue.
Last but not least, after being on bp meds for 16 years, have you ever considered asking a doctor about going off meds to see what your pressures would be? I don't know if it's probable or possible, but it does make me wonder...
Stars, these are just my thoughts and opinions. I have no medical degree, just a lot of experience with side effects and a very sincere concern for your well being. I think its the 12 steps groups who say, "take what you need, and leave the rest".
I'm wishing you the best, Stars. I'm sure you'll do fine...you're thinking, questioning, and taking charge! All of the things one must do in this day and age to keep ourselves healthy.
Oh, and please keep in touch...
Bsheba
stars13
04-22-2007, 10:53 AM
Bethsheba, first let me thank you for all your time, your interest, your research and your opinions. i truly appreciate it. you have given much to reflect on, and i certainly agree with what you have to say.
The most comforting part of your post was about how your symptoms on benicar hct would come and go in time and intensity. That's the part of my problem that had me totally questioning myself. wondering if it was more serious. even though in my heart i feel it is the meds. This is what blows my mind about my dr. wanting me to add tekturna to what i already am on. i want to eliminate , not add more problems. ya da ya da ya da??????
Well, i'm notsure about this pill. i had night sweats half the night, woke up a bit nauseous and with high numbers. 158/99 after taking tekturna and hct a few hrs ago, numbers are now 137/90. i'm not sure when i will take cardizem. i usually take it in pm but if bp doesn't go down a little more i may take it this afternoon.
i have an appointment with him in a little over 2 weeks, i just might postpone taking tekturna till i talk to him again. not sure yet. i think i'll see how today goes.
I seen on another thread that a poster named brownie was given tekturna, think i'll see if he tried it yet. You know, i have nightmarish visions of phen phen and vioxx . and if my bp is going to go up i might as well be on the other meds for a few weeks with good numbers. don't know:confused: :confused: :confused:
i will keep in touch bsheba, and again thanks for your help............stars:wave:
The most comforting part of your post was about how your symptoms on benicar hct would come and go in time and intensity. That's the part of my problem that had me totally questioning myself. wondering if it was more serious. even though in my heart i feel it is the meds. This is what blows my mind about my dr. wanting me to add tekturna to what i already am on. i want to eliminate , not add more problems. ya da ya da ya da??????
Well, i'm notsure about this pill. i had night sweats half the night, woke up a bit nauseous and with high numbers. 158/99 after taking tekturna and hct a few hrs ago, numbers are now 137/90. i'm not sure when i will take cardizem. i usually take it in pm but if bp doesn't go down a little more i may take it this afternoon.
i have an appointment with him in a little over 2 weeks, i just might postpone taking tekturna till i talk to him again. not sure yet. i think i'll see how today goes.
I seen on another thread that a poster named brownie was given tekturna, think i'll see if he tried it yet. You know, i have nightmarish visions of phen phen and vioxx . and if my bp is going to go up i might as well be on the other meds for a few weeks with good numbers. don't know:confused: :confused: :confused:
i will keep in touch bsheba, and again thanks for your help............stars:wave:
bethsheba
04-22-2007, 12:49 PM
Stars, I only hope I can be of some help. I had brain fog for 2 years and it wasn't until I was on the 4th medication that I could look back and see what was happening to me. I don't want you to have to wait that long to get help.
The most comforting part of your post was about how your symptoms on benicar hct would come and go in time and intensity.
Yes, when symptoms start months after taking a med, or when they come and go, it's difficult for us (and doctors) to link the symptoms to the med. But it happens all the time, it's very common.
That's the part of my problem that had me totally questioning myself. wondering if it was more serious. even though in my heart i feel it is the meds.
We have instincts for a reason, we need to listen to them which is sometimes difficult to do because we are taught to use our heads instead--a combo of head and instinct is the best, :) .
This is what blows my mind about my dr. wanting me to add tekturna to what i already am on. i want to eliminate , not add more problems. ya da ya da ya da??????
Exactly!!!! And from what I understand, the new drug should do away with the old drugs. Many studies show that doctors increase dosages when they maybe should be lowering them (overdose is very common among the elderly--I don't consider myself elderly --I'm 54--but I've od'd on a minimum dose of at least 1 of my meds) and they prescribe meds for side effects instead of trying different meds.
Well, i'm notsure about this pill. i had night sweats half the night, woke up a bit nauseous and with high numbers.
Well, it may be the pill or it may be the pill combo. But I think it would be wise to wait for your appointment with your doctor. In the meantime, you could consult with your pharmacist. I recently talked with a friend of mine in the health care field...I complained about the docs not informing patients of side effects and not identifying side effects in patients. She told me, quite matter of factly, that the doctors expect the pharmacists to do this. Hmmmm. Again, we didn't know or forget that the pharmacist is a very valuable member of our health care team.
Thanks for keeping me posted, Stars. Again, I hope things will go well with you.
Bsheba
The most comforting part of your post was about how your symptoms on benicar hct would come and go in time and intensity.
Yes, when symptoms start months after taking a med, or when they come and go, it's difficult for us (and doctors) to link the symptoms to the med. But it happens all the time, it's very common.
That's the part of my problem that had me totally questioning myself. wondering if it was more serious. even though in my heart i feel it is the meds.
We have instincts for a reason, we need to listen to them which is sometimes difficult to do because we are taught to use our heads instead--a combo of head and instinct is the best, :) .
This is what blows my mind about my dr. wanting me to add tekturna to what i already am on. i want to eliminate , not add more problems. ya da ya da ya da??????
Exactly!!!! And from what I understand, the new drug should do away with the old drugs. Many studies show that doctors increase dosages when they maybe should be lowering them (overdose is very common among the elderly--I don't consider myself elderly --I'm 54--but I've od'd on a minimum dose of at least 1 of my meds) and they prescribe meds for side effects instead of trying different meds.
Well, i'm notsure about this pill. i had night sweats half the night, woke up a bit nauseous and with high numbers.
Well, it may be the pill or it may be the pill combo. But I think it would be wise to wait for your appointment with your doctor. In the meantime, you could consult with your pharmacist. I recently talked with a friend of mine in the health care field...I complained about the docs not informing patients of side effects and not identifying side effects in patients. She told me, quite matter of factly, that the doctors expect the pharmacists to do this. Hmmmm. Again, we didn't know or forget that the pharmacist is a very valuable member of our health care team.
Thanks for keeping me posted, Stars. Again, I hope things will go well with you.
Bsheba
Lenin
04-23-2007, 10:03 AM
He said they are not making Tarka anymore.
Brownie,
Some doctors CRINGE at the thought of cheap generics. So just becasue ABBOTT may stop making Tarka, there's no reason why you couldn't take generic verapamil and some cheap generic ACE inhibitor for the same effect at a low cost than the TARKA.
Your doctor is obviously being well PAID by Novartis to push TEKTURNA on his patients...you are probably one of many.
<Why would ANYONE want to take a new drug for a non-life threatening condition and play guinea pig?>
ps. My favorite online drugstor still sells TARKA;) at about $2 a PILL...OY!
Brownie,
Some doctors CRINGE at the thought of cheap generics. So just becasue ABBOTT may stop making Tarka, there's no reason why you couldn't take generic verapamil and some cheap generic ACE inhibitor for the same effect at a low cost than the TARKA.
Your doctor is obviously being well PAID by Novartis to push TEKTURNA on his patients...you are probably one of many.
<Why would ANYONE want to take a new drug for a non-life threatening condition and play guinea pig?>
ps. My favorite online drugstor still sells TARKA;) at about $2 a PILL...OY!
brownie2
04-24-2007, 04:42 PM
Brownie,
Some doctors CRINGE at the thought of cheap generics. So just becasue ABBOTT may stop making Tarka, there's no reason why you couldn't take generic verapamil and some cheap generic ACE inhibitor for the same effect at a low cost than the TARKA.
Your doctor is obviously being well PAID by Novartis to push TEKTURNA on his patients...you are probably one of many.
<Why would ANYONE want to take a new drug for a non-life threatening condition and play guinea pig?>
ps. My favorite online drugstor still sells TARKA;) at about $2 a PILL...OY!
I called Abbott this morning and asked if they are not making tarka anylonger.
The bottom line is they are making tarka it is selling well and will not be promoted any longer.(read no KICKBACK) My Dr lied to me telling me tarka will no longer be made.So I will need to go on Tekturna.(read new KICKBACK)he has backed me into a corner . I don't like to be lied to.:mad:
Question of the day!!! Do I get a new Dr . or have him explaine himself?
What do you guy's think???:confused: :confused:
Some doctors CRINGE at the thought of cheap generics. So just becasue ABBOTT may stop making Tarka, there's no reason why you couldn't take generic verapamil and some cheap generic ACE inhibitor for the same effect at a low cost than the TARKA.
Your doctor is obviously being well PAID by Novartis to push TEKTURNA on his patients...you are probably one of many.
<Why would ANYONE want to take a new drug for a non-life threatening condition and play guinea pig?>
ps. My favorite online drugstor still sells TARKA;) at about $2 a PILL...OY!
I called Abbott this morning and asked if they are not making tarka anylonger.
The bottom line is they are making tarka it is selling well and will not be promoted any longer.(read no KICKBACK) My Dr lied to me telling me tarka will no longer be made.So I will need to go on Tekturna.(read new KICKBACK)he has backed me into a corner . I don't like to be lied to.:mad:
Question of the day!!! Do I get a new Dr . or have him explaine himself?
What do you guy's think???:confused: :confused:
bethsheba
04-25-2007, 07:56 AM
Make him explain himself and then get a new doctor! If you don't make him account for his actions he will continue to pull this on other patients--he may anyway, but at least you've acted responsibly!
Bsheba
Bsheba