marie72
04-05-2007, 10:09 PM
I am considering saline breast implants, which I thought were safe, but from reading some additional information posted, they can also cause numerous complications. I would appreciate any information from personal experience that you can give me, details would greatly help. If you don't mind, so I don't make the same mistakes. Now I'm not sure which implant is safer saline or silicone?!
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lzing2
04-10-2007, 03:36 PM
Marie I hope this will help. First of all the best person to ask is your surgeon, the best will take the time to go over every risk, etc with you and it would be wise to seek more than one consultation.
Breast Augmentation is now a low risk procedure. No matter the choice over saline or silicone, the outer shell of the implant is the key. It was the outershell's of the past that held the silicone that broke down and caused the the problems.
Today with many advancements to the outer shell does, eliminates break down and is very body friendly! Of coarse there is never a guarentee that one's body accepts a foreign intrusion such as a breast implant, it is not natural, but today's materials make the body tolerate it at a much higher and safer level.
Very few women who have implants in 2000+ will experience health problems, such as those suffered in the past from the procedure.
Again talk over your fears with a highly recommended surgeon.
Breast Augmentation is now a low risk procedure. No matter the choice over saline or silicone, the outer shell of the implant is the key. It was the outershell's of the past that held the silicone that broke down and caused the the problems.
Today with many advancements to the outer shell does, eliminates break down and is very body friendly! Of coarse there is never a guarentee that one's body accepts a foreign intrusion such as a breast implant, it is not natural, but today's materials make the body tolerate it at a much higher and safer level.
Very few women who have implants in 2000+ will experience health problems, such as those suffered in the past from the procedure.
Again talk over your fears with a highly recommended surgeon.
marie72
04-10-2007, 10:59 PM
Hi Izing2, thank you for your response. I've gone over so much material. But what concerns me is the women that claim that the implants gave them health problems, such as Lupus and Fibo(something). I would like to get the saline implants, they seem safer if they leak, but sooo many women are changing theirs to silicone, I'm not sure why, but I don't want to make a mistake the first time around. I know eventually I will need to replace or remove them and I will put those finances away for that day. But I guess I may be reading alot of the negative posts about implants. And your information was helpful thank you!
lzing2
04-11-2007, 11:29 AM
Marie:
We live in a world that focuses on negative. Watch the nightly news, your only hear the bad, not the positive.
Consult with your surgeon, he or she will put all fears to rest, the percent of women today who suffer such a fate might be 5%. Yes there is always a risk, just as with any surgery, but there is risk waking up daily and leaving your home.
Millions of women in North America alone have implants. Very few report issues, when you find a great surgeon, and that is half of the battle, not some smo who is giving a deal, for a reason. In plastic surgery you get what you pay for.
I have had my implants since 05, I never really think about them, they are so natural and just apart of me. I asked questions like crazy to my surgeon in Canada, and he took the time to answer all of them. Great ones do!
The Glass is always half full, not have empty, listen to some of the stories, sure, but don't take to heart, who knows if what you are hearing is the real thruth...
We live in a world that focuses on negative. Watch the nightly news, your only hear the bad, not the positive.
Consult with your surgeon, he or she will put all fears to rest, the percent of women today who suffer such a fate might be 5%. Yes there is always a risk, just as with any surgery, but there is risk waking up daily and leaving your home.
Millions of women in North America alone have implants. Very few report issues, when you find a great surgeon, and that is half of the battle, not some smo who is giving a deal, for a reason. In plastic surgery you get what you pay for.
I have had my implants since 05, I never really think about them, they are so natural and just apart of me. I asked questions like crazy to my surgeon in Canada, and he took the time to answer all of them. Great ones do!
The Glass is always half full, not have empty, listen to some of the stories, sure, but don't take to heart, who knows if what you are hearing is the real thruth...
1sunny1
04-11-2007, 11:47 AM
My silicone implants ruptured in 1996, I had them replaced with Saline. I do believe the silicone are more natural, but of course I could not get them again in 1996. I had a terrible time when they ruptured, the silicone went everywhere and I had no idea when they ruptured, I just found two very big lumps under my arms one day and a sonogram revealed that it was silicone. AThey had to dig the silicone out of the breast along with some breast tissue which left one breast smaller than the other. And yes, I have had health problems ever since. I do have fibromyalgia, but there is no proof that the silicone caused this. My Doctor never told me that they could even rupture, I think if I had known I would never have done the procedure. And of course when you get a mammogram, you know it is like putting your breast in a vice clamp. I honestly believe that is what made them rupture. The new silicone implants are probably better than the old ones, but at some point, you will have to have them replaced. I know some women that have had them for as long as 20 years. I have had mine since 1996, and no problems with the saline, and by the way, they look very natural, but when you touch them you can feel the implant.
marie72
04-11-2007, 09:13 PM
Hi again Izing2,
I agree with you the glass is always full. I guess I would also be negative about implants if I went through some of the experiences some of the women have had to deal with. But I think being educated on the subject and knowing the potential problems that can occur will get me mentally prepared. Some people do things not knowing that there can be negative results and then have a hard time dealing. I've learned so much more from this board than I have from any website or consultation. So I'll take the good with the bad. You have been wonderful and so positive, thank you.
Hi 1sunny1,
Sorry to hear that you had such a horrible experience in 1996. Did you have mammos every year? I was told that this would not be a problem by the technician at the testing site I go to. I've had mammos since 30, my doctor's recommendation. Did you notice a difference between the silicone and saline implants? Is there a difference in the cleavage depending on the implant you use? I know I'm asking alot of questions, but you've had both kinds, and I am leaning towards the saline, for health safety reasons, but the silicone keeps popping up in my head. I'm happy to hear that they do feel natural, but why do you feel the implant, did you go under the muscle or over? Does it feel like its not part of your body ( I know its not, but I would think that it will somehow blend in). I appreciate all the advice you can give. Thanks!
I agree with you the glass is always full. I guess I would also be negative about implants if I went through some of the experiences some of the women have had to deal with. But I think being educated on the subject and knowing the potential problems that can occur will get me mentally prepared. Some people do things not knowing that there can be negative results and then have a hard time dealing. I've learned so much more from this board than I have from any website or consultation. So I'll take the good with the bad. You have been wonderful and so positive, thank you.
Hi 1sunny1,
Sorry to hear that you had such a horrible experience in 1996. Did you have mammos every year? I was told that this would not be a problem by the technician at the testing site I go to. I've had mammos since 30, my doctor's recommendation. Did you notice a difference between the silicone and saline implants? Is there a difference in the cleavage depending on the implant you use? I know I'm asking alot of questions, but you've had both kinds, and I am leaning towards the saline, for health safety reasons, but the silicone keeps popping up in my head. I'm happy to hear that they do feel natural, but why do you feel the implant, did you go under the muscle or over? Does it feel like its not part of your body ( I know its not, but I would think that it will somehow blend in). I appreciate all the advice you can give. Thanks!
sharon7270
04-12-2007, 02:34 AM
I had saline breast implnats in 2005...love them! I don't know what the myth is that silicone feels more natural, but from what I have heard it comes with the greater risk. My husband loves them, men on the beach love them, gosh, all men love them...and I have yet to have anyone say they weren't mine...no health problems, just attention problems
RIGIRL
04-12-2007, 09:21 AM
Getting My Boobs Done Was The Best Thing I Ever Did. I Got Saline About 4 Years Ago And Then I Decided To Get My Nose Done A Year Ago And Figured Id Switch My Implants To Silicone Since I Got It All Covered Under Insurance. The Silicone Is Way Better. They Are Wider And They Look And Feel Way Better. Glad I Switched Them But Either Way You Will Be Happy. Silicone Is Safe Now, Its Not Like It Was Back In The Day. There Are A Couple Layers On The Shell So If They Leak It Will Stay In The Implant.
The Best Advice I Can Give Is Dont Look For The Cheap Way Out, You Get What You Pay For And Go Big The First Time Cause If You Dont Youll End Up Wanting Them Done Again.
The Best Advice I Can Give Is Dont Look For The Cheap Way Out, You Get What You Pay For And Go Big The First Time Cause If You Dont Youll End Up Wanting Them Done Again.
1sunny1
04-12-2007, 11:58 AM
Hi again Izing2,
I agree with you the glass is always full. I guess I would also be negative about implants if I went through some of the experiences some of the women have had to deal with. But I think being educated on the subject and knowing the potential problems that can occur will get me mentally prepared. Some people do things not knowing that there can be negative results and then have a hard time dealing. I've learned so much more from this board than I have from any website or consultation. So I'll take the good with the bad. You have been wonderful and so positive, thank you.
Hi 1sunny1,
Sorry to hear that you had such a horrible experience in 1996. Did you have mammos every year? I was told that this would not be a problem by the technician at the testing site I go to. I've had mammos since 30, my doctor's recommendation. Did you notice a difference between the silicone and saline implants? Is there a difference in the cleavage depending on the implant you use? I know I'm asking alot of questions, but you've had both kinds, and I am leaning towards the saline, for health safety reasons, but the silicone keeps popping up in my head. I'm happy to hear that they do feel natural, but why do you feel the implant, did you go under the muscle or over? Does it feel like its not part of your body ( I know its not, but I would think that it will somehow blend in). I appreciate all the advice you can give. Thanks!
Hi, yes, I did have Mammos every year, I don't have them anymore, I have sonograms, just too paranoid now after they ruptured. I know that they are supposed to be experienced in doing mammograms for people with implants, but I don't trust them anymore. Actually, I never did have much cleavage even with the implants, I am a 36C with no cleavage, disappointing, but they do look natural, you can't tell from looking. Touching, you can feel the ridges in the implant on the side, not on the top or front. They are under the muscle, reason for under the muscle, they just would not take on top of the muscle, I did not have enough tissue for them to adhere too, so they kept folding on me, had them done 3 times before they took. First time I was so happy the pain didn't matter, after 3 times it was too much pain, hope I never have to go thru that again. I don't mean to be negative, I know what it means to just want to look normal in a blouse sweater, or bathing suit, and not look like flat chested. After nursing both my sons, which with the milk took me breasts to a 42 D, I just lost everything and was very saggy and flat. So do get your implants whether silicone or saline, just happy you are doing your research. Good luck
I agree with you the glass is always full. I guess I would also be negative about implants if I went through some of the experiences some of the women have had to deal with. But I think being educated on the subject and knowing the potential problems that can occur will get me mentally prepared. Some people do things not knowing that there can be negative results and then have a hard time dealing. I've learned so much more from this board than I have from any website or consultation. So I'll take the good with the bad. You have been wonderful and so positive, thank you.
Hi 1sunny1,
Sorry to hear that you had such a horrible experience in 1996. Did you have mammos every year? I was told that this would not be a problem by the technician at the testing site I go to. I've had mammos since 30, my doctor's recommendation. Did you notice a difference between the silicone and saline implants? Is there a difference in the cleavage depending on the implant you use? I know I'm asking alot of questions, but you've had both kinds, and I am leaning towards the saline, for health safety reasons, but the silicone keeps popping up in my head. I'm happy to hear that they do feel natural, but why do you feel the implant, did you go under the muscle or over? Does it feel like its not part of your body ( I know its not, but I would think that it will somehow blend in). I appreciate all the advice you can give. Thanks!
Hi, yes, I did have Mammos every year, I don't have them anymore, I have sonograms, just too paranoid now after they ruptured. I know that they are supposed to be experienced in doing mammograms for people with implants, but I don't trust them anymore. Actually, I never did have much cleavage even with the implants, I am a 36C with no cleavage, disappointing, but they do look natural, you can't tell from looking. Touching, you can feel the ridges in the implant on the side, not on the top or front. They are under the muscle, reason for under the muscle, they just would not take on top of the muscle, I did not have enough tissue for them to adhere too, so they kept folding on me, had them done 3 times before they took. First time I was so happy the pain didn't matter, after 3 times it was too much pain, hope I never have to go thru that again. I don't mean to be negative, I know what it means to just want to look normal in a blouse sweater, or bathing suit, and not look like flat chested. After nursing both my sons, which with the milk took me breasts to a 42 D, I just lost everything and was very saggy and flat. So do get your implants whether silicone or saline, just happy you are doing your research. Good luck
marie72
04-12-2007, 09:42 PM
Thank you everyone for all the information. If you think of anything else that may help please post. I will be having surgery on April 30. I will continue to research until then. I welcome all positive and negative information, we all have different experiences in life, so its good to know everything. Thanks!!!
Auntpolly
04-13-2007, 05:15 AM
Thank you everyone for all the information. If you think of anything else that may help please post. I will be having surgery on April 30. I will continue to research until then. I welcome all positive and negative information, we all have different experiences in life, so its good to know everything. Thanks!!!
It is good you are researching things before you jump into BA. You will get both sides though to this complicated issue. :dizzy:
I had silicone implants under the muscle in 1989. I was sagging from breast feeding and the PS told me to stick some implants in. He said they would last forever. I agreed because I just hated my sagging breasts. But I hated my BA from day one! :mad: I didn't like how they moved around every time I flexed my muscle. I never liked how they looked. I didn't like having to have double exposures during the mammograms. But I lived with them for 18 years. Then I had a mammogram and experienced terrible pain. For 3 months I coughed all the time. No antibiotics helped. Then one night I experienced severe burning and numbness in my arm. I knew it was the implant. It ruptured. I got those things out and refused to have them replaced. My coughing went away immediately. I had a breast lift and now I feel beautiful! :bouncing:
A friend had saline implants. Hers broke. Now she is on disability. The fungus that grew in the saline implants went into her system. She has infections, fatigue, depression.
Some people are lucky and have no health problems. I had no health problems. But one thing that is guaranteed is they will break some day. Is it worth the risks for some years with implants? Is it worth the expense? I would say no. But only you can answer that question for yourself.
It is good you are researching things before you jump into BA. You will get both sides though to this complicated issue. :dizzy:
I had silicone implants under the muscle in 1989. I was sagging from breast feeding and the PS told me to stick some implants in. He said they would last forever. I agreed because I just hated my sagging breasts. But I hated my BA from day one! :mad: I didn't like how they moved around every time I flexed my muscle. I never liked how they looked. I didn't like having to have double exposures during the mammograms. But I lived with them for 18 years. Then I had a mammogram and experienced terrible pain. For 3 months I coughed all the time. No antibiotics helped. Then one night I experienced severe burning and numbness in my arm. I knew it was the implant. It ruptured. I got those things out and refused to have them replaced. My coughing went away immediately. I had a breast lift and now I feel beautiful! :bouncing:
A friend had saline implants. Hers broke. Now she is on disability. The fungus that grew in the saline implants went into her system. She has infections, fatigue, depression.
Some people are lucky and have no health problems. I had no health problems. But one thing that is guaranteed is they will break some day. Is it worth the risks for some years with implants? Is it worth the expense? I would say no. But only you can answer that question for yourself.
marie72
04-13-2007, 09:19 AM
Dear Auntpolly,
It's good to hear from personal experiences. From your post, it almost seems that although the silicone will get into your system and cause problems, the saline becomes bateria infested and can cause severe health problems. Either way, the issue then is the rupturing of the implant. Do you and your friend have mammos and is that what you think caused the rupture? And I'm surprised that women aren't tracked by the implant manufactures, like automobile manufactures, for maintenance, at some point they should recommend a replacement of the implant within a specified time frame. I'm sorry to hear that you and your friend have negative results. But am happy you were able to get back on your feet before further health problems. I pray that your friend will regain her health. Every one please continue to send your personal experiences I still have two weeks to decide! Thanks!!!
It's good to hear from personal experiences. From your post, it almost seems that although the silicone will get into your system and cause problems, the saline becomes bateria infested and can cause severe health problems. Either way, the issue then is the rupturing of the implant. Do you and your friend have mammos and is that what you think caused the rupture? And I'm surprised that women aren't tracked by the implant manufactures, like automobile manufactures, for maintenance, at some point they should recommend a replacement of the implant within a specified time frame. I'm sorry to hear that you and your friend have negative results. But am happy you were able to get back on your feet before further health problems. I pray that your friend will regain her health. Every one please continue to send your personal experiences I still have two weeks to decide! Thanks!!!
Auntpolly
04-13-2007, 02:43 PM
Dear Auntpolly,
It's good to hear from personal experiences. From your post, it almost seems that although the silicone will get into your system and cause problems, the saline becomes bateria infested and can cause severe health problems. Either way, the issue then is the rupturing of the implant. Do you and your friend have mammos and is that what you think caused the rupture? And I'm surprised that women aren't tracked by the implant manufactures, like automobile manufactures, for maintenance, at some point they should recommend a replacement of the implant within a specified time frame. I'm sorry to hear that you and your friend have negative results. But am happy you were able to get back on your feet before further health problems. I pray that your friend will regain her health. Every one please continue to send your personal experiences I still have two weeks to decide! Thanks!!!
Saline does not always become infected. But it can happen. During the surgical procedure when filling or while in your body. Do a g-o-o-g-l-e search, "saline implant fungus" and see what you come up with.
I have my implants. The one that ruptured is a nasty yellow color. The one that didn't, is clear. I was lucky none of the silicone traveled out of the capsule. But the oils did. That is why I coughed for so long.
I had annual mammograms. When I first got them I did not have to sign a release. About 8 years ago I had to sign a release that mammograms could cause my implants to rupture. In addition, implants do not cause cancer but can hide a cancerous spot on the mammogram.
The manufacturer of the "new" silicone implants was suppose to track women for years to "prove" they are safe. My co-worker was part of that "study". She had bilateral implants due to mastectomy. She was never contacted the entire time. Ever generation of implants, women are told they are safer and better. I was told mine would never break. Well so far no implant lasts forever. And with each removal, you may lose some breast tissue.
You have to ask yourself, why do I want them? Is it for self esteem, for your partner, for size, for shape. Do they sag? Would a lift be enough? Do I want to risk many surgeries down the road? Do I have the finances to keep paying for surgeries? Some day you will have to live without implants anyway. Do you want to go through surgeries and expenses in between?
Ask a person that just got implants and most will tell you yes. Some will tell you no. They are not proportioned now and can't wear clothes right. Some don't like the feel when they are hugged. Some with saline have reported their chest feels cold all the time. Or they can't sleep on their backs any longer as the weight of the implant is too much.
Ask a person that has had their implants removed and they will tell you I wish someone had talked me out of it.
Could someone have talked me out of it 18 years ago? Honestly I don't know. I hated my sagging breasts. I did not do it for size. If I had been told the "truth" about implants I seriously doubt I would have gotten them. As a nurse, I know the risks of surgery. I would not have opted for something knowing I would need more surgery down the road. That is why I tolerated them for so many years even when I did not like them. The rupture and pain forced me to have the surgery. And I knew I never wanted to go through another breast surgery for cosmetic reasons. Not getting reimplanted last year,that is the BEST decision I ever made! :)
It's good to hear from personal experiences. From your post, it almost seems that although the silicone will get into your system and cause problems, the saline becomes bateria infested and can cause severe health problems. Either way, the issue then is the rupturing of the implant. Do you and your friend have mammos and is that what you think caused the rupture? And I'm surprised that women aren't tracked by the implant manufactures, like automobile manufactures, for maintenance, at some point they should recommend a replacement of the implant within a specified time frame. I'm sorry to hear that you and your friend have negative results. But am happy you were able to get back on your feet before further health problems. I pray that your friend will regain her health. Every one please continue to send your personal experiences I still have two weeks to decide! Thanks!!!
Saline does not always become infected. But it can happen. During the surgical procedure when filling or while in your body. Do a g-o-o-g-l-e search, "saline implant fungus" and see what you come up with.
I have my implants. The one that ruptured is a nasty yellow color. The one that didn't, is clear. I was lucky none of the silicone traveled out of the capsule. But the oils did. That is why I coughed for so long.
I had annual mammograms. When I first got them I did not have to sign a release. About 8 years ago I had to sign a release that mammograms could cause my implants to rupture. In addition, implants do not cause cancer but can hide a cancerous spot on the mammogram.
The manufacturer of the "new" silicone implants was suppose to track women for years to "prove" they are safe. My co-worker was part of that "study". She had bilateral implants due to mastectomy. She was never contacted the entire time. Ever generation of implants, women are told they are safer and better. I was told mine would never break. Well so far no implant lasts forever. And with each removal, you may lose some breast tissue.
You have to ask yourself, why do I want them? Is it for self esteem, for your partner, for size, for shape. Do they sag? Would a lift be enough? Do I want to risk many surgeries down the road? Do I have the finances to keep paying for surgeries? Some day you will have to live without implants anyway. Do you want to go through surgeries and expenses in between?
Ask a person that just got implants and most will tell you yes. Some will tell you no. They are not proportioned now and can't wear clothes right. Some don't like the feel when they are hugged. Some with saline have reported their chest feels cold all the time. Or they can't sleep on their backs any longer as the weight of the implant is too much.
Ask a person that has had their implants removed and they will tell you I wish someone had talked me out of it.
Could someone have talked me out of it 18 years ago? Honestly I don't know. I hated my sagging breasts. I did not do it for size. If I had been told the "truth" about implants I seriously doubt I would have gotten them. As a nurse, I know the risks of surgery. I would not have opted for something knowing I would need more surgery down the road. That is why I tolerated them for so many years even when I did not like them. The rupture and pain forced me to have the surgery. And I knew I never wanted to go through another breast surgery for cosmetic reasons. Not getting reimplanted last year,that is the BEST decision I ever made! :)