mrshane
04-15-2007, 05:50 PM
:( started about 7 years ago and my life hasnt been same since, confidence is on the floor. i actually have heard so many people saying hed be a real gorgeous fella if he wasnt so red.
about 7 years ago i got a real bad sunburn and area round my nose started to peel. since then, my nose has been all blotchy and frequent episodes of peeling around the nostrils and into the cheeks.
then after a while it spread to my eyebrows constantly flaking, and then into where my scalp meets my forehead. my forehead has now become scaly and needs frquent (scraping) for use of a better word, ive tried leaving for a while, and applying moisturiser but it just builds up.
i cannot wash my face as the water sends my skin mad, so even in the shower i can only wash my neck down. i try to wash my face evry week or so, but ends up only on a fridday to let time to recover for work on monday.
if it rains my skins goes bright red, i am permanently red around my nose and because of my job people try to get me in photos every so often and i really cant take any more.
my favourite pastime was swimming and now cannot even think about it because of the effects on my skin. life has become so terrible and so hard that i wonder does anyone...please....have any advice to relieve or get rid of this redness on my face.
i have went to a doctor and he says its seb....somethin eczema, and it is uncurable. i have tried different creams and moisturisers but none seem to work.
please help... :(
about 7 years ago i got a real bad sunburn and area round my nose started to peel. since then, my nose has been all blotchy and frequent episodes of peeling around the nostrils and into the cheeks.
then after a while it spread to my eyebrows constantly flaking, and then into where my scalp meets my forehead. my forehead has now become scaly and needs frquent (scraping) for use of a better word, ive tried leaving for a while, and applying moisturiser but it just builds up.
i cannot wash my face as the water sends my skin mad, so even in the shower i can only wash my neck down. i try to wash my face evry week or so, but ends up only on a fridday to let time to recover for work on monday.
if it rains my skins goes bright red, i am permanently red around my nose and because of my job people try to get me in photos every so often and i really cant take any more.
my favourite pastime was swimming and now cannot even think about it because of the effects on my skin. life has become so terrible and so hard that i wonder does anyone...please....have any advice to relieve or get rid of this redness on my face.
i have went to a doctor and he says its seb....somethin eczema, and it is uncurable. i have tried different creams and moisturisers but none seem to work.
please help... :(
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Alagaesia
04-16-2007, 12:49 AM
You can try either chamomile, chickweed, or calendula cream. Just rub it on your face. You can also try taking evening primrose oil pills. Evening primrose oil shouldn't be taken if you're on seizure meds. You can find the pills at any health store but you may have to look around at different health shops for the creams. Calendula will probably be the easiest to find. You also may want to try probiotics. This may take a while to work though. A couple of good brands are Dr. Ohhira's essential probiotics and Garden of life primal defense HSO probiotics.
Taradortchbrown
04-24-2007, 11:05 PM
My husband and kids suffer from eczema. A few months ago he started adding about 1 cup of peroxide to his bath water. On the days that he showered he would apply the peroxide to the areas using cotton balls. This actually worked for him and cleared up a large area that he has had problems with for years. You can also try 100% pure UNREFINED shea butter. This has been the best skin moisturizer for my kids. I also started using it on my niece who had some extreemly rough skin and the results have been amazing for her. This may or may not work for you but it's worth a try. I hope you have some success!! :)
mrshane
04-25-2007, 07:11 PM
thanks guys i'll trythese, having a real bad run of it at the minute...so depressing :(
fairycake
05-02-2007, 03:48 PM
Try applying some diluted apple cider vinegar to the lesions - this used to clear mine up fairly quickly whenever I had a bad flare-up. Just make sure you dilute it with bottled or filtered water and not chlorinated tap water.
For a long-term solution, diet is definately the key. The most important thing is to eliminate sugar and refined carbs and to take a good probiotic. Also avoid drinking chlorinated tap water and if you eat meat/dairy stick to organic. I personally have seen a huge improvement in my seborrheic dermatitis since following this diet.
Hope this helps.
For a long-term solution, diet is definately the key. The most important thing is to eliminate sugar and refined carbs and to take a good probiotic. Also avoid drinking chlorinated tap water and if you eat meat/dairy stick to organic. I personally have seen a huge improvement in my seborrheic dermatitis since following this diet.
Hope this helps.
RIGIRL
05-06-2007, 08:15 PM
you need to get a prescription for triamcinalone cream. its for exzema. thats what i have been using my whole life and it works great. and for my daily lotion i use palmers coco butter cause thats the only thing that i dont break out with a rash from.
jj90
05-07-2007, 08:35 AM
Opportunistic yeasts of the Malassezia genus are causative in SD. The two prime suspects are M. globosa and M. sympodialis which both have an absolute requirement for oil. They metabolise oil secreted from sebum glands and in doing so change the composition of sebaceous secretions releasing unsaturated fatty acids. Individuals susceptable to the penetration of these fatty acids experience an inflamatory reaction. Something like 50% of the population suffer from dandruff (non-inflamatory SD) and 3-5% of the population suffer from SD. The condition is chronic with the possiblity of remission in old age when sebum secretions decline to lower levels. Lifestyle changes are an important part of achieving and maintaining remission of the disease. Start on a strict sugar & yeast free diet. Eat only fresh vegetables, herbs, fruits, fish and lean meats in that order ie high quantaties of vegetables and low quantaties of meats. Do not eat processed food, refined foods, sugar, yeast, alchohol, coffee & tea. From now on visit the fresh produce aisle of your supermarket only. Do not take home any junk foods. Limit your intake of starchy foods (potatoes, rice etc) and avoid high GI foods. No bread and No pasta. Do not feed Malassezia yeast with sugars, do not stimulate your sebum glands to secrete excess oils, boost your imune system to fight infections, to speed up healing and do not beleive you GP when he tells you your diet has no effect. All treatments are easier with the appropriate diet. The exact diet is open to debate but you have get the idea right? M. globosa and M. sympodialis yeast cultures are grown in the laboratory on growth medium (sugars) with a layer of olive oil. A dietry approach seems quite logical to me.
When your diet is improved your skin can be restored to complete normality with topical anti-fungals that kill Malassezia yeast. Your skin barrier function is severly damaged and treatments will likely agrevate initially. Pure aloe vera gel I find soothing and can be used as a protective layer after anti-fungals are applied. Aloe vera also has anti-fungal anti bacterial and healing qualities.
Apple cider vinegar is a good, safe and cheap way to kill Mallassezia yeast by creating acidic conditions on the skin surface. I have used ACV rinsing with excellent results over long periods with no side effects. I was in your exact same situation at your age and I have been able to maintain remission for more than 10 years. I am not cured but I am free from visible signs of the disease. I currently take action with various anti-fungals in rotation. I suggest you take a holiday to remove all work stress which is bad for SD and because treatment can initially seem to make matters worse. You should not be detered because there is science and logic here. If you are not convinced then treat a small are with ACV 2-3 times per day. Kill Malassezia yeast and your condition will improve dramatically.
Malassezia yeast cannot survive in acid conditions whilst simultaneously being deprived of energy with a sugar free diet. Use a daily rinse of 1 part apple cider vinegar to 3 parts water and the conditions will likely improve rapidly. Expect good results in 1-2 weeks and remission lasting several days or even weeks depending on the severity of SD. The skin will eventually tolerate undiluted apple cider vinegar but this is not advisable or neccessary for an initial regime particularly since your skin is currently damaged and sensitive. Allow ACV atleast 10 minutes to work or better still leave to dry and do not rinse out. Vinegar smell is gone when dried.
I currently use Oilatum Scalp Shampoo by Stiefel which contains the broad spectrum anti-fungal ciclopirox olamine twice per week. Ingredients are - Aqua, sodium laureth sulphate, cocamidopropyl betaine, polysorbate 80, cocamide DEA, hexylene glycol, ciclopirox olamine, oleyl alcohol, citric acid, disodium phosphate, polyquaternium 10, parfum (+sodium hydroxide)
Supplements are a welcome addition but remember SD is not a simple defficiency otherwise the problem would be solved a long time ago. Here are some suggestions that will help speed recovery of the skin.
Zinc Picolonate
Vitamin D
B Complex Vitamins
Biotin
Solgar brand is yeast free.
Do not exceed upper limits for vitamins and minerals.
When your diet is improved your skin can be restored to complete normality with topical anti-fungals that kill Malassezia yeast. Your skin barrier function is severly damaged and treatments will likely agrevate initially. Pure aloe vera gel I find soothing and can be used as a protective layer after anti-fungals are applied. Aloe vera also has anti-fungal anti bacterial and healing qualities.
Apple cider vinegar is a good, safe and cheap way to kill Mallassezia yeast by creating acidic conditions on the skin surface. I have used ACV rinsing with excellent results over long periods with no side effects. I was in your exact same situation at your age and I have been able to maintain remission for more than 10 years. I am not cured but I am free from visible signs of the disease. I currently take action with various anti-fungals in rotation. I suggest you take a holiday to remove all work stress which is bad for SD and because treatment can initially seem to make matters worse. You should not be detered because there is science and logic here. If you are not convinced then treat a small are with ACV 2-3 times per day. Kill Malassezia yeast and your condition will improve dramatically.
Malassezia yeast cannot survive in acid conditions whilst simultaneously being deprived of energy with a sugar free diet. Use a daily rinse of 1 part apple cider vinegar to 3 parts water and the conditions will likely improve rapidly. Expect good results in 1-2 weeks and remission lasting several days or even weeks depending on the severity of SD. The skin will eventually tolerate undiluted apple cider vinegar but this is not advisable or neccessary for an initial regime particularly since your skin is currently damaged and sensitive. Allow ACV atleast 10 minutes to work or better still leave to dry and do not rinse out. Vinegar smell is gone when dried.
I currently use Oilatum Scalp Shampoo by Stiefel which contains the broad spectrum anti-fungal ciclopirox olamine twice per week. Ingredients are - Aqua, sodium laureth sulphate, cocamidopropyl betaine, polysorbate 80, cocamide DEA, hexylene glycol, ciclopirox olamine, oleyl alcohol, citric acid, disodium phosphate, polyquaternium 10, parfum (+sodium hydroxide)
Supplements are a welcome addition but remember SD is not a simple defficiency otherwise the problem would be solved a long time ago. Here are some suggestions that will help speed recovery of the skin.
Zinc Picolonate
Vitamin D
B Complex Vitamins
Biotin
Solgar brand is yeast free.
Do not exceed upper limits for vitamins and minerals.
jj90
05-07-2007, 09:19 AM
Avoid the use of steroidal creams for as long as possible. Triamcinalone is a steroidal cream and the mode of action is anti-inflamatory. It will not kill the causative Mallasezia yeast unless it also contains anti-fungals.
Consider the problems with the long term use of steroidal creams namely thinning of the skin and steroidal induced rosacea. Once you start on steroidal creams it is difficult to stop due to a rebound effect. Rebound effect being severe flares of SD as a withdrawl response.
Steroidal creams shoud be a rescue option and not a first line treatment. That's my opinion atleast. Save the heavy guns until you are older and hope that you never need them. SD is bad enough without side effects. Work your way up the treatment options in order of safety. That to me is the most sensible approach.
Triamcinalone is not the heavy guns but it is a step down that road.
Consider the problems with the long term use of steroidal creams namely thinning of the skin and steroidal induced rosacea. Once you start on steroidal creams it is difficult to stop due to a rebound effect. Rebound effect being severe flares of SD as a withdrawl response.
Steroidal creams shoud be a rescue option and not a first line treatment. That's my opinion atleast. Save the heavy guns until you are older and hope that you never need them. SD is bad enough without side effects. Work your way up the treatment options in order of safety. That to me is the most sensible approach.
Triamcinalone is not the heavy guns but it is a step down that road.
RIGIRL
05-07-2007, 10:04 AM
i have never had a problem with that cream. and if you have that bad of eczema you need it. tanning also helps clear it up.