scoobylou22
04-17-2007, 02:26 PM
Any young woman out there ttc think the docters don't take them seriously?
I'm 22 and have really irregular periods im convinced i have poly cystic overies and my docter refuses to give me any tests or drugs and keeps saying it will sort itself out! i have gained about a stone in the past year and my arms have got really hairy i have to wax them its horrible, i also have quite alot of spots but they don't take me seriously :mad:
I'm 22 and have really irregular periods im convinced i have poly cystic overies and my docter refuses to give me any tests or drugs and keeps saying it will sort itself out! i have gained about a stone in the past year and my arms have got really hairy i have to wax them its horrible, i also have quite alot of spots but they don't take me seriously :mad:
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morrisun
04-17-2007, 02:37 PM
It happened to me when I was TTC. I was 25 at the time and I hadn't had a period in over 3 months, went to the Dr. and he looked at me and said come back in 6 months from now and we'll run some labs. I looked at him and said uhhh....that's not really acceptable to me. I think I stunned him because he ordered the labs right then and there and gave me a RX for provera. Just recently I've been diagnosed with PCOS, but I've had symptoms for 13 years. UGH! :mad:
Blastoff9600
04-17-2007, 04:13 PM
Your best bet is to make sure you know your body and know how to talk to your doctor. If you havent read the book Taking Charge Of Your Fertility. Chart at least three of your cycles. Take those charts and the info you gained from the book and tell your dr you arent leaving until s/he listens to you and starts running tests on you. It will help that you know what tests you want run(the book goes over them). The charts show you are serious as well and gives your dr a view of your cycles. Also wouldnt hurt ot have notes written about what is going on with your body like the weight gain, the hair growth, or anything else that is new or different.
It is true that when you are younger the drs dont think to take you serious unless you get pushy with them. Also most couples take a year or two to become pregnant on their own and that is without problems. Hence why most drs when you first see them tell you to give it time. They know that a lot of women get antsy when 3 or 4 months go by and they arent pregnant. They just havent given it enough time.
But if you go in with knowledge and the attidude that you know what is going on they listen better.
It is true that when you are younger the drs dont think to take you serious unless you get pushy with them. Also most couples take a year or two to become pregnant on their own and that is without problems. Hence why most drs when you first see them tell you to give it time. They know that a lot of women get antsy when 3 or 4 months go by and they arent pregnant. They just havent given it enough time.
But if you go in with knowledge and the attidude that you know what is going on they listen better.
shellshell82
04-19-2007, 03:02 AM
Also most couples take a year or two to become pregnant on their own and that is without problems.
Average is 4 months when there are no probs. One mild factor makes the average 2 years. It is possible these couples "without problems" that conceive after a year or so actually do have problems, but they are mild. (Or maybe the problem is infrequent intercourse)
Scoobylou, I hope you find a doc that listens and does something soon. My husband and I had heaps of trouble finding someone who would listen and take us seriously. We were 22 and 23 at the time. Two years later, we are still not pregnant, but we have been diagnosed with problems, given drugs, had operations, done a treated cycle... but you need the diagnosis first, and then you can get the ball rolling.
Average is 4 months when there are no probs. One mild factor makes the average 2 years. It is possible these couples "without problems" that conceive after a year or so actually do have problems, but they are mild. (Or maybe the problem is infrequent intercourse)
Scoobylou, I hope you find a doc that listens and does something soon. My husband and I had heaps of trouble finding someone who would listen and take us seriously. We were 22 and 23 at the time. Two years later, we are still not pregnant, but we have been diagnosed with problems, given drugs, had operations, done a treated cycle... but you need the diagnosis first, and then you can get the ball rolling.
Blastoff9600
04-19-2007, 08:56 AM
If you read the books and check over valid medical sites you will see that on average it can take up to a year to get pregnant. When you look at the odds of actually getting pregnant each cycle then you can actually understand why it can take that amount of time. On average a couple has a 15 - 30% chance of getting pregnant even with perfect timing. Then throw in that somewhere between 50 - 75% of that fails to develop for various natural reasons.
So taking a year or even two isnt that hard to see. It has only been recently that drs have been suggesting it can take up to two years. Various studies on healthy couples found that 50% conceived in 6 months, 82% in one year, and 91% in 2 years, all without medical intervention. Now most those studies involved about a 100 couples as test subjects.
So taking a year or even two isnt that hard to see. It has only been recently that drs have been suggesting it can take up to two years. Various studies on healthy couples found that 50% conceived in 6 months, 82% in one year, and 91% in 2 years, all without medical intervention. Now most those studies involved about a 100 couples as test subjects.
shellshell82
04-19-2007, 08:18 PM
The average is 4 months if there is no prob (from my fertility clinic). Note that is an average. Same with the 2 years for one mild factor.
Out of 100 eggs exposed to sperm only 31 of them will result in a live birth. 17 eggs will never be fertilised, and there are many that are lost in the early stages of pregnancy - often before anyone even knows about it. So yes, the chances are low normally, but they are even lower when there is an issue or two affecting it.
When there is an issue, there is an issue, and it needs treating. If it is PCOS, then it needs treating - whether or not that involves ovulation inducing drugs or just insulin-sensitising drugs - because it is more than just a reproductive problem. Irregular menstral cycles should not be dismissed so easily. They are a sign that something is not right. If it is insulin resistance, this can lead to many serious problems - not just infertility - but also diabetes, heart disease, stroke, etc. So I want to encourage Scooby - keep seeing doctors until you find one that will listen and test you. It doesn't matter how old you are or how long you have been ttc - menstral irregularities are reasons in themselves to go to a doctor and get tested.
Out of 100 eggs exposed to sperm only 31 of them will result in a live birth. 17 eggs will never be fertilised, and there are many that are lost in the early stages of pregnancy - often before anyone even knows about it. So yes, the chances are low normally, but they are even lower when there is an issue or two affecting it.
When there is an issue, there is an issue, and it needs treating. If it is PCOS, then it needs treating - whether or not that involves ovulation inducing drugs or just insulin-sensitising drugs - because it is more than just a reproductive problem. Irregular menstral cycles should not be dismissed so easily. They are a sign that something is not right. If it is insulin resistance, this can lead to many serious problems - not just infertility - but also diabetes, heart disease, stroke, etc. So I want to encourage Scooby - keep seeing doctors until you find one that will listen and test you. It doesn't matter how old you are or how long you have been ttc - menstral irregularities are reasons in themselves to go to a doctor and get tested.
Blastoff9600
04-19-2007, 09:11 PM
Well been going to infertility clinics and doctors and reading for many years now. Did lots of research while ttc for our second son and did a lot after him. Going by what I have read and learned from several drs across the country. I stick by what I have learned on the year of ttc and no known problems. It took 6 months of actual ttc with my first son. There are no known problems with me or dh....but we still took six months of actual trying but we also had 5 months of if it happens it happens. So 11 months of no proctection. Which falls right in the average. They may have a different average for your country.
I wasnt saying she shouldnt see her dr. By all means switch drs if you dont feel yours is listening to you. God knows I have switched when I didnt feel right with a dr or they said inapproiate things.
I wasnt saying she shouldnt see her dr. By all means switch drs if you dont feel yours is listening to you. God knows I have switched when I didnt feel right with a dr or they said inapproiate things.
shellshell82
04-20-2007, 06:03 AM
I should have added - a mild factor = smoking (yuck), or the woman being 35 or older, infrequent intercourse etc. - doesn't take much to fall into that category.
They are seriously just statistics and averages and of course everyone is different. What bothers me is when people put off going to get help, because they think it will just happen given more time. Or when doctors don't properly treat patients who already know (without having waited out a year of ttc without getting pregnant) that something might be wrong.
BTW they still say to wait a year before getting help at the same clinic where they say 4 months is the average if there are no probs. I think that is because they are saying almost the same thing, just using different words to say it.
They are seriously just statistics and averages and of course everyone is different. What bothers me is when people put off going to get help, because they think it will just happen given more time. Or when doctors don't properly treat patients who already know (without having waited out a year of ttc without getting pregnant) that something might be wrong.
BTW they still say to wait a year before getting help at the same clinic where they say 4 months is the average if there are no probs. I think that is because they are saying almost the same thing, just using different words to say it.
nellie46
04-20-2007, 11:22 AM
I'm 21 and I know what you're talking about. Right now I'm on CD 41 and who knows how many DPO but when I call my Dr. the schedule a beta they act like I'm stupid. Even before they told me I was young and shouldn't be hacving any trouble so they just gave me some clomid and didn't do any tests just said that should work, Well it didn't and I'm going persist that they do more checking into it this time. The earliest they could get me in was May 7th. I'm so scared if I'm preg. I might MC before then I MCed in Oct. HPT Are BFN but they were last time too.
scoobylou22
04-21-2007, 01:32 PM
i understand that it can take a couple of years to get pregnant but if i had normal cycles i would be getting 12/13 chances a year to get pregnant but the way im going im only getting 6/7 this means its gonna take twice as long! thats what im worried about! if everything was normal i wouldn't even be worrying :confused:
brooke_82
04-22-2007, 10:56 PM
My tip is to find a doctor that also has PCOS, which is easier said than done as most doctors dont offer up personal information like that. I have struggled with PCOS for approx 7 years and late last year found a doctor who was sympathetic and actually started the ball rolling with treatment as she herself also suffered from PCOS.
So be strong with your doctors, tell them what you want to happen because no matter what age you are you are paying them and know your body better than anyone. March in there and tell them what you want to happen!!
So be strong with your doctors, tell them what you want to happen because no matter what age you are you are paying them and know your body better than anyone. March in there and tell them what you want to happen!!
marinewife12
04-23-2007, 12:42 AM
Scooby,
Just remember this: your doctor works for you!
If you had a business and an employee continually said "no, I don't feel like being in to work today. Nah, I think your idea is stupid. No, I don't think I'll do what you ask" you would fire them, wouldn't you?
Why is a doctor any different? You go to him for a service. As a service provider, he should be competetive and professional. If you (as his client and customer) say "I want X test done" then he should be willing to do so. Of course, this has limits in that if the test was completely worthless (say, you bumped your head and asked for an x-ray on your leg).
It sounds like your requests for tests to diagnose PCOS is completely reasonable. You have serious symptoms. Just because you are young does not mean you're any less valued in the health department.
Here's what I would say: chart your cycles (or what's left of them). I was very luckily diagnosed at an early stage...I'm 23. But my dr. still wants me to chart regardless, because knowing how my cycle works will help tell them in the least invasive way possible what's going on. I'm still getting tests done, but it will defintiely help as far as my quest on TTC. Go in there guns blazing. If your dr. says "come back in 6 months" then you say "I'll go somewhere else in 6 months." He is your Dr. You are helping pay for his 4th home in Boca. So just say "No, I'm not waiting. I am very concerned and I want to figure things out now." Chances are, he'll say "alright, that's fine. it's not what I would do, but if that's what you want, fine."
That's what I can say. Let us know how things work out for you!
Kate
Just remember this: your doctor works for you!
If you had a business and an employee continually said "no, I don't feel like being in to work today. Nah, I think your idea is stupid. No, I don't think I'll do what you ask" you would fire them, wouldn't you?
Why is a doctor any different? You go to him for a service. As a service provider, he should be competetive and professional. If you (as his client and customer) say "I want X test done" then he should be willing to do so. Of course, this has limits in that if the test was completely worthless (say, you bumped your head and asked for an x-ray on your leg).
It sounds like your requests for tests to diagnose PCOS is completely reasonable. You have serious symptoms. Just because you are young does not mean you're any less valued in the health department.
Here's what I would say: chart your cycles (or what's left of them). I was very luckily diagnosed at an early stage...I'm 23. But my dr. still wants me to chart regardless, because knowing how my cycle works will help tell them in the least invasive way possible what's going on. I'm still getting tests done, but it will defintiely help as far as my quest on TTC. Go in there guns blazing. If your dr. says "come back in 6 months" then you say "I'll go somewhere else in 6 months." He is your Dr. You are helping pay for his 4th home in Boca. So just say "No, I'm not waiting. I am very concerned and I want to figure things out now." Chances are, he'll say "alright, that's fine. it's not what I would do, but if that's what you want, fine."
That's what I can say. Let us know how things work out for you!
Kate
scoobylou22
04-23-2007, 05:54 PM
thanks for your advice girls. I know i have (or think i have) ovulated last week so im currantly 8dpo of an extremly long cycle! If i get a bfn at the end of the week and my period comes i am planning on going back to the docters and demanding some tests for pco's
thank you
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thank you
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