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kmatthew
04-21-2007, 12:59 AM
I was reading one of your posts from a few weeks ago about cortef. I am recovering from thyroid cancer, and was diagnosed with adrrenal insuffiency in November. I am currently on an entire pharmacy of drugs and up until Thursday I was doing great. I currently take 75 mcg of Synthroid 5 mg of cytomel, .5 of dostinex per week, 10 mg of Lexapro, and 25 mg of Aldoctone, 20 mg of Cortef, and .1 of Florinef. To make a long story short, I could not get out of chairs without my husband's help in November and December due to my dropping blood pressure, it was such a mess. Now I am happy to report that I am exercising 6 days a week, lost 15 pounds in 5 weeks, and am putting my four year old to shame with the energy levels that I have gained back.
I was doing so well, that my doctor decided to take me down to 20 mg of cortef from 30 last Thursday. I was fine Thursday -Sunday. Monday I was at the gym and the floor felt as if it were coming out from under me. I immediately thought I forgot to take the cortef, so I checked, and I did not forget. I then realized it felt like a blood sugar problem which I had not had a problem with being too low since I started Cortef. I ate a protein bar and 30 minutes after my blood sugar was still at 70, so I know it must have been really low. I called my doctor (who is fabulous) and she indicated that my blood showed slightly low potassium and to increase bananas etc, and if I was not feeling better to let her know. The last two days have been much better but I still get a little dizzy now and then. Sugar levels have been in the 80's and 90's two hours after meals the last two dayss. It seems that i read somewhere that cortef elevates blood sugar,so if this is true, maybe the decrease is causing dips in blood sugar. My Endo is a diabetes, metabolism spec, and she says no, but hey who knows.
After posting my thyroid labs on the thyroid board this week, a few others on cortef have jumped in and said that my decrease may have been too quick.
What do you know about that????? My doctor says that the decrease should be fine, but all i know is that I was fine Thursday, and now I am fighting to be fine. (Mind over matter) I notice that my stamina at the gym is lacking this week on things that have come easy for me a few days ago, and I am craving salt, chocolate, and am very thirsty. I have considered upping myself up another 5mg to see, but I am improving, so I hate to if I will adjust.

Thanks for listening.
KM:wave:

orion
04-21-2007, 12:11 PM
30 to 20 mg in one jump is too much too fast. Unfortunately even the most fabulous doctors aren't very well informed about adrenal insufficiency. You might be well on 20 mg/day when your body is functioning properly. But illness, stress and fatigue could easily require 30 mg or more. The problem comes in figuring out when you are just tired and when your body is under stress fighting illness that you have not yet recognized as such.

The newest research suggests 10/5/5 mg/day in three doses. I switched from 25 to 20 following the new idea and things were fine for a while. Then suddenly after a month I started feeling poorly and nothing I did seemed to help (extra sleep, relaxing, cutting back on exercise). Finally I took two days of 40 and then switched back to 25 and I felt fine after that.

I think how you feel is an important indicator and if you feel poorly on 20 mg/day I would switch to 25 and see how that feels. I assume your doctor has given you extra hydrocortisone in case you need to up your meds for high fever and physical stress? If that doesn't help, go back to 30. If you still don't get relief then it might be something else.

Remember your doctor is only a consultant. In the end, it's your life and feeling poorly all day is not appropriate even if your doctor thinks it is.

gettin' better
04-21-2007, 12:36 PM
I agree with Orion. I have experimented with my Cortef on my own, and I know when I need more. At one point, I was down to 15 mg per day in divided doses, but I didn't feel well and went back up to 20, which is where I am now. After a certain amount of time, you will become familiar with the symptoms that indicate you are "insufficient" and need to increase. The so-called "standard" dose of Cortef is between 20 and 30 mg. You may need more than 20. Good luck to you.

kmatthew
04-21-2007, 01:49 PM
I guess what worries me is that I felt perfect on 30 and instead of leaving well enough alone she wants to decrease. I guess I can understand why, steroids aren't good for the bones. I don't feel awful yet, I just have to eat a lot because of blood sugar when I was not before, and I can feel a difference.

Does your body adjust???????

gettin' better
04-21-2007, 11:36 PM
Theoretically, you strive to take the exact amount of cortisone that your adrenal glands would be making if they were working. It's not a matter of "adjusting". it's a matter of what your body NEEDS. If you continue to have symptoms, you may need to go back up to 30, although of course it's best to take the least amount of Cortef that you can. I mean, I could've SURVIVED on 15 mg., but I just didn't feel good. Trust your body and be up-front with your doctor.

kmatthew
04-22-2007, 10:30 PM
I appreciate the advice. I am better today, but lenghty standing was not good again. I am giving it until Tuesday, and I will be informing her that I am going to increase.
I hope it gets better.

 
 
 




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