I am on my 5th day with no suboxone. I dont know if the w/d is getting better or not. I am 25 a single mother of 2 small children, i go to school full time and my family has no clue what is going on. And i just want to know how much longer am i going to feel like this for. I cant handle the physical pain that i feel. Its like at any minute i am just going to break down....i cry nonstop all day long. i look at these kids and tell myself i can do but i begining to think i cant. If this is going to last months then im giving up right now but if theres a chance that it could be getting easier soon then ill suck it up and deal with it. I have never been so scared and so alone in my entire life...i just want to sleep and be able to take care of kids...i feel like a horrible mom, i dont know what to do.

Hey there. The phys w/d should be getting better very soon for you. Keep drinking plenty of water and try to exercise. This will speed up the process.

Hi mom _ I just read your post. How long were you on the sub and at what dose? Did you taper off of the sub. It sounds like you are experiencing the depression that is common to all opiate w/d's. The odd thing about sub is the physical w/d's upon quitting are less pronounced than when you quit other opieats, so when the depression hits it catches you off guard. The physical pain you mentioned is this from a preexsisting condition? Or is this new pain since you stopped the sub?
I will watch for your response TJ

i was on suboxone for about one year. I never took more than 4mg and i tapered down to 1mg. I never really had to w/d before bc i went straight from using methadone recreationally with friends to feeling crappy to suboxone. Everyone says that w/d off of suboxone isnt as bad, so i dont know if its bad to me bc i never had to go through real withdrawal it all happened so fast. I have this cramping pain in my legs and arms and im assuming its from the w/d.

what you say exersize do you mean that i should go for a run or do mean i should quit laying on the couch and do some cleaning around the house?

The pain is probably from the w/ds. When Tim referenced exercise he means what ever you can do to get your heart rate up. A good rule of thumb is to exercise until you perspire. Any motion will do, so yes get off the couch and do chores, take a walk, take deep breaths. What you are trying to accomplish is getting your natural endorphins back to work. Once the opiate is in your system, your body stops production of the natural endorphins that make you feel good in general. exercise stimulates your entire system to "get back to working". You may also want to start eating banana's. They are a great source of potasium and that will help with the cramping pain. I assume you did your program under a dr care. You should also notify him of the way you are feeling as you do not want to assume w/d symptoms when there could be some other cause. Also read some of the home detox remidies listed above the threads on this page. Some of the herbal supplimants may be just what you need.

I don't know if this is much help or not but I just got out of rehab and was on opitiants for a year. Enough to kill 3 people my size. They put me on subutex for a week and brought me down slowly. I am now on day 7 without it and I am starting to feel better. I am taking a multi vit and a cal/mag vit once a day. I am also having depression but it is getting better. Don't give up it will get better. Just rest and pretend like you have the flu and have your family help with the kids. My mom is taking care of mine thank God. God bless and I hope you feel better soon.:angel:

i have some old prenatal vitamins left from when i had my daughter would they help?

Any kind of vit will help. Take one extra then you would normal but not at the same time. Are you feeling any better?

the only thing that really hurts now are my calfs, but i have so much anxiety, and im shakey.....other than that its getting easier. i got a couple hours of sleep last night, which really helps. i honestly think i would have gave up the other day had i not found this site. i gives me that push that i need to keep going.

Hi aterrifiedmom,
just wanted to take a minute and say 'hi'. It made me smile to hear that you are feeling better today. I understand how you feel about this site, it was a life saver for me too.
It sounds like you've pretty much gotten through the physical w/d's and are creeping up on some of the mental stuff. Stay here, read others stories, and post lots. It will help, I promise. Hang in there, your not alone anymore.
jkm

i have some old prenatal vitamins left from when i had my daughter would they help?

just make sure thier not expired...
:)

i am just wondering how long before i feel normal again, some sites say anywhere from 1-6 months, some sites say 1-2 weeks. i think when i read things like 1-6 months and peoples stories about how bad it is, i think i begin to convince myself that thats how it is going to be with me and its hard to stay positive about the situation...i can deal with the lack of energy for a couple weeks without a problem its the other stuff that im afraid is going to stick around for a while....i feel like i know nothing and all i do is ask question after question...im sorry

thank you so much jkm1201. i think the hardest part is nobody knows. so i dont have anyone to turn to...its all on me. or at least is was all on me, when i see other people have gotten through it, then it gives me that push. sometimes i feel like i just need someone to yell at me and tell me to quit being a baby and suck it up and deal with it, after all i have no one to blame but myself....im making myself get out of the house today i think that might help...i think the more i stay inside the more depressed i feel.

You shouldn't have to walk around like this, there are other prescriptions like xanax (unless you have an addiction to it) your doc could give you short term to get you through the shakes. The vets here are so nice and have helped me out so many times, they really know what they are talking about! Also let your doc know what is going on, he is supposed to be there to help you right? I am currently on sub therapy, how long were you on it for?

i was on subs for about one year. the only thing is here in pa (atleast my part of pa) it is so expensive. The cheapest doctor i found wanted 90 a week just for the visit even if you only went once a month (in that case it was 360). Plus i dont have insurance, so i bought mine off the street bc it was so much cheaper for me. but no i dont have an addiction to xanax, i have a really good relationship with my family doctor...im just worried he'll look down on me if i tell him.

In my honest and humble opinion, I really think you need to come clean to you doctor. He can help you and I think you might need help right now.

Getting outside today is a fabulous idea! Try to stay as busy as you possibly can and find distractions. I think that once you find yourself out and about, you'll discover that just maybe.... your feeling pretty good.

And try not to be so hard on yourself, you said you have no one to blame but yourself?...You didn't get where you are all by yourself, somebody was prescribing those med's, right?... and your here.... that's a HUGE step. Give yourself a little credit, right?:)

how long does the mental aspect of w/d last....its weird at certain points i feel pretty good and then at other points i feel like it cant get any worse. I mean besides the w/d i have alot of other stuff going on in my life and i dont know if maybe some of those issues are manifesting themselves in the same form.

I myself am still going up and down mentally. It is hell. Addiction is a disease. When I was in rehab they taught me sooo much. They said that I am 100% not responsiable for my addiction but 100% responsiable for my recovery!! Please do not be ashamed because you are doing the right thing. I hid mine from my family for a year. When I told them what was going on they were so proud of me for doing something about it. Now if I go back they will not be as understanding. God has pulled me through more so then anything or anyone. I begged him to help me and he has the whole way. You can do this and your Dr. will understand. Good luck and keep going.

thank you so much...i dont know what i would do with out this site....it definitly helped getting out of the house today. when im home i think about it to much, but when i was out i didnt think about it at all....heres hoping for an even better day 7...once again thank you, thank you all!!!

I'm so happy that you had a good day. I'm smiling now, really...
:D
stay close friend, we're here to help. jkm

Hi, just wanted to share my experience with Suboxone/Subutex as maybe it could help you. I was on Suboxone for 4 months at 24 mg a day after a year on Methadone. The switch was hell, I am a single mom with four kids, so I totally understand having to pretend like everything is okay when you just want to crawl into a hole and die! I tried a couple times to taper down, but after a day or two I couldn't deal so I went back up to 24 mg. I never got really stable on Suboxone, and my doctor finally allowed me to try Subutex, thinking I might be having a reaction to the Nalexerone in the Suboxone. I switched to Subutex about six weeks ago, and immediately I was able to drop to 16 mg a day, and I felt better than I did on Suboxone. I was still tired and achy all the time, but it was a little better. I had to stop taking it almost a week ago because I couldn't afford my refill. I took 8 mg on Friday, and haven't taken anything since. So this is day five for me too, and I have been bracing myself for a horrible withdrawal like I had with the Suboxone, but it hasn't come. I do feel a bit achy, sweats/chills, trouble sleeping, but nothing I can't deal with. I walk about 2 miles a day, whether I feel like I can or not, because it really does help sooooo much. And taking vitamins too. I don't know if you are in a position where you could transition to Subutex and then jump from there, but it has made a 1000 percent difference in my situation. I was on 16mg when I stopped taking it, with no taper. When I tried even tapering on the Suboxone, I couldn't take it for even one day, so there has to be something to it. But just thought I'd mention it, and I just wanted to let you know that I know how hard it is to take care of kids and try to hide what you are feeling when it is so difficult to get through the day. Just hang in there, and try and exercise if you can, because it really does make so much of a difference.

i have another question...i know i have a ton of them. why is it during the day i do good, i mean i feel pretty good but when i lay down at night and when i wake up in the morning im feeling crappy. My legs ache, i have a headache and the anxiety kicks in. Dont get me wrong im not complaining, its better than it was the first few days, i can deal with it. I was just wondering.

All these symptoms will go away, calcium and multivitamins, eating extra veges and fruit and tripling your water intake will ease some of your discomfort, soothing baths, fresh air and exercise help to reinforce positive ions in your system, know that you are not alone, millions like you go through this and they come out of it, on the other side. Prayers really helped me, they are free, there is nothing attached and the rewards are 10-fold. Just believe you will get over this hurdle and it will happen. When you find yourself thinking about negative situations, turn it over and start thinking about positive outcomes. Take it easy on yourself, you will get through this.,it is only a temporary plateau.
hope your day is better than the day before
always
kadee

so far day seven is going pretty good....i am hoping it is all downhill from here on out. I have no cravings at all, i am actually excited to wake up in the morning knowing that i dont need anything. I just want to wake up and feel good for no reason at all.....i cant wait to get to that point.

i was wondering...today is day 8 and i dont feel any worse but for some reason i am not feeling any better....is this normal? Maybe i am just expecting to much.

I still do not feel 100% and I am on day 11. I do feel better though. My Dr. gave me something to help with the anxitey and uped my anti-depressant yesterday. You should tell your Dr. in my opinion because they understand more then people realize sometimes. If he truly cares about your health he will help you.

I made an appointment with my doctor he gave me 7days worth of xanax and effexor for depression. I just hit a really low point today, it seems like its never going to get better....its so hard to fake being well and i have to for my kids....im exhausted not only physically but mentally. i would give anything for a burst of energy....how long untill i get my energy back

Today is day 11...and wow what a difference. I only got up once last night bc of my legs...they were tight but they didnt hurt. Mentally i feel so much better, I even have a little bit of energy. Not as much as I used to but more than I have in the last few days. I feel good!

Hi Mom

You are doing a great job here. Smiles.

The legs thing? I am taking...magnesium 250 mg tabs...twice a day. It helps greatly with a multitude of things. It relaxes the nerves in the legs (and everywhere else). It helps keep me calm as I taper from xanax and will be my actual replacement for xanax when I finish the taper. It is a much better choice than xanax for sure and is a natural supplement.

Also, I am taking four 1000 mg Omega 3 fish oil over the course of the day. It is, among a million other things a mood stabilizer. Someday...really far down my own path, I consider taking it to replace the Lexapro antidepressant I have been on for quite a while. I have no issues at all with taking the Lexapro. Guess my daughter is right when she laughs at me and says I am becoming a natural supplement junkie. Chuckles. She believes strongly in natural supplements and vitamins. I always call her my leftover-from-the-60's kid and am never quite sure how she developed this way. Guess I am reverting back to that time in my life here also!

Best wishes for continuing success in your own life's journey
reach

Glad to hear you are doing better. I am glad you talked to to your Dr. It should be up hill from here for you. I am on day 14 and did not have to take anything for anxitiy last night and my mood is pretty even now. I feel like you and I are partners in crime here, I am a just a few days ahead of you. How wonderful life is when you can get out of the bed without a drug and enjoy the real beauty of life. God Bless and keep going, don't stop!!!

hi mom,
I'm really happy to hear that your feeling so much better:) Remember how you felt in the beginning? I bet you feel way better now, huh? It's only going to get better from here... I'm so proud of you:)
Take care of yourself and let us know how your doing, ok? jkm

Im absolutly amazed at the difference just 12 days can make....its weird I used to sleep 10-11 hours, wake up and still feel tired. Now I wake up after maybe 6 hours of sleep and i feel rejuvenated!! It feels good....like it did in high school. I used to think that stuff gave me the boost of energy i needed but after 12 days of not having it i realized how wrong i was. If i can feel this good after not even two weeks then i cant imagin how the rest of my life will be. I have no desire what so ever for anything....the thought of using makes me sick....I look at my beautiful children and thank god for giving me the strenght to pull through this. I also thank god for leading me to this site....hopefully someday I can be on the other end helping somebody else the way you all have helped me so much. From the bottom of my heart i thank you and love you all. I have learned so much and i think ive grown as a person....dont get me wrong i dont think the war is over...ill probably be fighting it the rest of my life, but at least now i know im strong enough to win. The help and support from all of you has made it that much easier for me....I feel like you guys were my gardian angels through all of this....God Bless you all

Hey Mom

Just a big smile at you..
reach