bigstudnothin
04-01-2003, 07:02 PM
before i go on and on about this topic, is there a forum specifically for these kind of questions?
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CanadianConvict
04-02-2003, 03:38 AM
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bigstudnothin
04-03-2003, 11:29 PM
sorry it took me a while to reply, but here goes...
i've had a lot of injuries withing the last few years, and i've noticed that none of these are really debilitating more of just a nusance in the weight room. but the biggest two injuries that affect me the most right now are my elbows and my left shoulder.
my left elbow pops a whole lot, even when i'm just doing pushups, but not to the point of pain, but itz been like that for a very long time, probably since i started lifting seriously a couple years ago(i wonder if that means anything). it'll pop kind of hard if i'm doing tri excercises like skull crushers, making it a little harder for me to bring the weight back up, but not significantly. but now itz my right elbow thats giving me actual pain when i do certain tri excercises like crushers, and french presses. it won't pop as much as my left but there's a bit of a sharp pain once i'm in the eccentric part of the movement(like bringing the wait down on french press). i don't know what to do, because i've laid off for months and even went to specialists for it that really had nothing new to say other than just lay off for a while, but nothing seems to change. i was hoping someone in here might have some insight on problems such as these.
as for my left shoulder, itz just been really really sore as of recently, and it really hurts when i do any type of shoulder excercises for it, and sometimes just stretching it out hurts. i don't ever remember doing anything specifically to cause this, that's whats funny. the pain sort of just showed up
anyway, if anyone has the patience to read this, and actually can offer some advice i'd be very thankful. i feel like i'm always going to have to workout with theses injuries if i want to work out at all.
i've had a lot of injuries withing the last few years, and i've noticed that none of these are really debilitating more of just a nusance in the weight room. but the biggest two injuries that affect me the most right now are my elbows and my left shoulder.
my left elbow pops a whole lot, even when i'm just doing pushups, but not to the point of pain, but itz been like that for a very long time, probably since i started lifting seriously a couple years ago(i wonder if that means anything). it'll pop kind of hard if i'm doing tri excercises like skull crushers, making it a little harder for me to bring the weight back up, but not significantly. but now itz my right elbow thats giving me actual pain when i do certain tri excercises like crushers, and french presses. it won't pop as much as my left but there's a bit of a sharp pain once i'm in the eccentric part of the movement(like bringing the wait down on french press). i don't know what to do, because i've laid off for months and even went to specialists for it that really had nothing new to say other than just lay off for a while, but nothing seems to change. i was hoping someone in here might have some insight on problems such as these.
as for my left shoulder, itz just been really really sore as of recently, and it really hurts when i do any type of shoulder excercises for it, and sometimes just stretching it out hurts. i don't ever remember doing anything specifically to cause this, that's whats funny. the pain sort of just showed up
anyway, if anyone has the patience to read this, and actually can offer some advice i'd be very thankful. i feel like i'm always going to have to workout with theses injuries if i want to work out at all.
Omskakas
04-04-2003, 02:55 AM
My n00bie advice is to let your shoulders rest. Don't do any weight training with them for 2-3 weeks and after that start slowwwwwly. When I hurt a muscle I'm usually too eager to train it again and the pain will show up again and make things even worse.
Edit: To prevent future injuries check that you have proper form for shoulder excercises and don't do any particular excercise if it keeps injuring you. Also, I've heard that most people don't train their rotator cufs(sp?) which might be one reason for shoulder problems.
For elbow I can only say that try to find excercises that won't hurt you, if possible.
[This message has been edited by Omskakas (edited 04-04-2003).]
Edit: To prevent future injuries check that you have proper form for shoulder excercises and don't do any particular excercise if it keeps injuring you. Also, I've heard that most people don't train their rotator cufs(sp?) which might be one reason for shoulder problems.
For elbow I can only say that try to find excercises that won't hurt you, if possible.
[This message has been edited by Omskakas (edited 04-04-2003).]
N2Deep
04-04-2003, 11:32 AM
Your shoulder could be an injured rotator cuff. Search on Google for "rotator cuff exercises" to help build them up.
Your elbow may be just tendonitis. Check with a Dr. and see if an anti-inflammatory would help or not. Not sure why it pops but if it doesn't hurt then it can't be too bad.
Your elbow may be just tendonitis. Check with a Dr. and see if an anti-inflammatory would help or not. Not sure why it pops but if it doesn't hurt then it can't be too bad.
whitesheep
04-05-2003, 09:51 PM
ELBOWS:
I've always had this problem with my elbows - nothing noticeable doing normal things around the house, but clearly apparent when doing press ups and some types of presses. Doctors have looked at it but really it seems to be a genetic problem, with the tendons 'clicking' across the bone at certain angles and ranges of motion.
The only advice I can offer is to avoid the exercises that cause the elbow problem to flare up. There are so many variations on presses that you should be able to find something that doesn't aggravate the elbow.
SHOULDERS:
I also suffer from 'gleno-humeral joint hyperlaxity' which is a fancy term for what you describe. This is where there is too much looseness and flexibility in the shoulder ball-and-socket joint. For me it became acute when doing heavy seated rows.
This *does* need a period of rest (maybe a fortnight) followed by specific strengthening exercises for some months, which can be done before your main workout (which should exclude the offending exercises). You should see a specialist sports physiotherapist to determine exactly the ranges of motion that you need to focus on to strengthen and rebuild the shoulder area. They will give you a number of exercises to do, probably using light dumbells, fitballs and therabands. This is a frustrating stage, because you just want to 'get on with the weight training'.
Finally, you should choose a range of mass-building (if that is your objective) exercises that re-inforce your shoulders instead of pulling them apart (for me, the seated rows were 'pulling' my shoulders open). For example, I no longer do wide grip lat pulldowns, but do narrow reverse grip instead, which will still work your back without putting so much torsional strain on the shoulder joints. A good book (such as 'Strength Training Anatomy' by Delavier) or the above-mentioned specialist sports-therapist can help you construct a suitable program that will strengthen rather that compromise your shoulders.
I've always had this problem with my elbows - nothing noticeable doing normal things around the house, but clearly apparent when doing press ups and some types of presses. Doctors have looked at it but really it seems to be a genetic problem, with the tendons 'clicking' across the bone at certain angles and ranges of motion.
The only advice I can offer is to avoid the exercises that cause the elbow problem to flare up. There are so many variations on presses that you should be able to find something that doesn't aggravate the elbow.
SHOULDERS:
I also suffer from 'gleno-humeral joint hyperlaxity' which is a fancy term for what you describe. This is where there is too much looseness and flexibility in the shoulder ball-and-socket joint. For me it became acute when doing heavy seated rows.
This *does* need a period of rest (maybe a fortnight) followed by specific strengthening exercises for some months, which can be done before your main workout (which should exclude the offending exercises). You should see a specialist sports physiotherapist to determine exactly the ranges of motion that you need to focus on to strengthen and rebuild the shoulder area. They will give you a number of exercises to do, probably using light dumbells, fitballs and therabands. This is a frustrating stage, because you just want to 'get on with the weight training'.
Finally, you should choose a range of mass-building (if that is your objective) exercises that re-inforce your shoulders instead of pulling them apart (for me, the seated rows were 'pulling' my shoulders open). For example, I no longer do wide grip lat pulldowns, but do narrow reverse grip instead, which will still work your back without putting so much torsional strain on the shoulder joints. A good book (such as 'Strength Training Anatomy' by Delavier) or the above-mentioned specialist sports-therapist can help you construct a suitable program that will strengthen rather that compromise your shoulders.
mjmaciver
04-05-2003, 11:26 PM
before weightlifting try this stretch:
place your hands in the small of your back like your being handcuffed, then pull your shoulders forward as far as you can and hold for 15 seconds. rest a minute and repeat. This stretch will stretch out your rotator cuffs and also partially lubricate your acromio-clavicular joint.
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place your hands in the small of your back like your being handcuffed, then pull your shoulders forward as far as you can and hold for 15 seconds. rest a minute and repeat. This stretch will stretch out your rotator cuffs and also partially lubricate your acromio-clavicular joint.
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Why push to failure, when you could press to success