ICC
06-04-2007, 11:00 AM
Sorry to all who think I am being nasty or ^%&*()$. That is not my intent. I love all of you BUT have tried to help and been slapped for doing it at times. My physical pain has come into play here and I am trying with all the strength I have to NOT let my PTSD flare up or have another bout of major depression set in. So if I slight someone , please forgive me and consider that I am hurting right now and not myself.
Started PT 2 weeks ago. Doing good. Better than expected considering my other health issues. Last week I had a girl I don't like becasue of the holiday. I had to tell her numerous times that she was hurting me, the pullys were tearing my neck up and to please lighten up a little that my shoulder would heal in it's own time. Doesn't matter to me if it's in 12 weeks or 16. Seemed to matter alot ot the PT. She must get a gold star for rushing people along. I am not 25. I am 53 with diabetes and fibro. Adds to the recovery time. Last week she was manipulating my shoulder while talking to another patient across the room. Not paying any attention to how hard she was tugging at my arm. I had my back arched and was saying "OK THAT'S ENOUGH, YOU'RE KILLING ME" She didn't hear this as she was too busy talking. At one point I felt a snap, not a big one but all the same a snap in my pectoral muscle. I told her and then showed her how my collar bone and entire chest muscle had blown up like a water balloon. She said it's normal. On the way out I asked the receptionist to please never chane my PT from my regular one to her. That day and the whole next day I was getting worse. I called the surgeon and he said to stop all PT as I had a sprained muscle from too aggressive PT. Boy was I pissed. I called the facility and told them. the next day the PT calls me, not her supervisor, herself and proceeded to give me a hard time that she did nothing wrong and I should have told her if she was hurting me. I told her I did but she was paying no attention and that I was not going to debate this with her over the phone. She then said stopping PT ws not a good idea. I told her it was the surgeon's decision not hers. So I have suffered at her hands and been set back to where I was 2 weeks ago. Don't see the surgeon until next Tuesday. Tried to call to schedule sooner but he's booked so I am on standby. I don't know at this point if she tore something or what. All I know is I am in pain constantly and resent the fact that I was making great headway and now am back to square one. it is effecting my thought process trememdously, though I am trying so hard not to let it. I have to call her supervisor and at this point am not up to another confrontation. I can feel myelf getting discouraged and slipping into and "I don't care anymore" mindset. The constant pain is reminding of HOW, WHERE and WHY I got injured in the first place. Anger is setting in. I am fighting it tooth and nail. I have no control over what has already happend but know I do about where it goes from here. Not strong physically right now and of coure that is weakening me emotionally and mentally. Sorry if I have upset anyone but I can feel history repeating itself and I don't want it to. Trying my best. Trying to help others for the last couple of weeks has been a big help but I am starting to feel that I haven't been able to. Ok that's my vent. Again sorry for the nastiness, it is not meant towards anyone but my situation.
ICC
Started PT 2 weeks ago. Doing good. Better than expected considering my other health issues. Last week I had a girl I don't like becasue of the holiday. I had to tell her numerous times that she was hurting me, the pullys were tearing my neck up and to please lighten up a little that my shoulder would heal in it's own time. Doesn't matter to me if it's in 12 weeks or 16. Seemed to matter alot ot the PT. She must get a gold star for rushing people along. I am not 25. I am 53 with diabetes and fibro. Adds to the recovery time. Last week she was manipulating my shoulder while talking to another patient across the room. Not paying any attention to how hard she was tugging at my arm. I had my back arched and was saying "OK THAT'S ENOUGH, YOU'RE KILLING ME" She didn't hear this as she was too busy talking. At one point I felt a snap, not a big one but all the same a snap in my pectoral muscle. I told her and then showed her how my collar bone and entire chest muscle had blown up like a water balloon. She said it's normal. On the way out I asked the receptionist to please never chane my PT from my regular one to her. That day and the whole next day I was getting worse. I called the surgeon and he said to stop all PT as I had a sprained muscle from too aggressive PT. Boy was I pissed. I called the facility and told them. the next day the PT calls me, not her supervisor, herself and proceeded to give me a hard time that she did nothing wrong and I should have told her if she was hurting me. I told her I did but she was paying no attention and that I was not going to debate this with her over the phone. She then said stopping PT ws not a good idea. I told her it was the surgeon's decision not hers. So I have suffered at her hands and been set back to where I was 2 weeks ago. Don't see the surgeon until next Tuesday. Tried to call to schedule sooner but he's booked so I am on standby. I don't know at this point if she tore something or what. All I know is I am in pain constantly and resent the fact that I was making great headway and now am back to square one. it is effecting my thought process trememdously, though I am trying so hard not to let it. I have to call her supervisor and at this point am not up to another confrontation. I can feel myelf getting discouraged and slipping into and "I don't care anymore" mindset. The constant pain is reminding of HOW, WHERE and WHY I got injured in the first place. Anger is setting in. I am fighting it tooth and nail. I have no control over what has already happend but know I do about where it goes from here. Not strong physically right now and of coure that is weakening me emotionally and mentally. Sorry if I have upset anyone but I can feel history repeating itself and I don't want it to. Trying my best. Trying to help others for the last couple of weeks has been a big help but I am starting to feel that I haven't been able to. Ok that's my vent. Again sorry for the nastiness, it is not meant towards anyone but my situation.
ICC
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stick2013
06-04-2007, 11:20 AM
Dear ICC,
You have every right to be angry, depressed, and yes even nasty. You just need to get it out in a healthy manner, and direct it at the people that need it. I would call the supervisor, explain it to her, and if she starts taking the side of her employee, I would remind her that YOU as the patient is who PAYS her salary. Also I would state that when ANY patient is in the care of one of her therapist, that THE PATIENT SHOULD ALWAYS remain the therapist #1 priority. NOT gabbing with someone else. (The place I went to, had SEPARATE ROOMS with doors. 1 person 1 therapist per room, undivided attention) I would also add that if any damage occurred because of this, you may just need to call your attorney. THAT statement usually gets their ATTENTION really fast. Law suits are never a good thing.........
As far as helping people......You have done a wonderful job.....I don't feel that you have slighted anyone. As a matter of fact, know now what you have been going through, I would say that you need to back off a bit, and relax. But I know too that doing something CAN help to take the mind off things...
I wish there was something I could do to help you.......Know that I love you and care......Take care of you....YOU are #1...
Love n hugs,
Wen........aka...Sid
You have every right to be angry, depressed, and yes even nasty. You just need to get it out in a healthy manner, and direct it at the people that need it. I would call the supervisor, explain it to her, and if she starts taking the side of her employee, I would remind her that YOU as the patient is who PAYS her salary. Also I would state that when ANY patient is in the care of one of her therapist, that THE PATIENT SHOULD ALWAYS remain the therapist #1 priority. NOT gabbing with someone else. (The place I went to, had SEPARATE ROOMS with doors. 1 person 1 therapist per room, undivided attention) I would also add that if any damage occurred because of this, you may just need to call your attorney. THAT statement usually gets their ATTENTION really fast. Law suits are never a good thing.........
As far as helping people......You have done a wonderful job.....I don't feel that you have slighted anyone. As a matter of fact, know now what you have been going through, I would say that you need to back off a bit, and relax. But I know too that doing something CAN help to take the mind off things...
I wish there was something I could do to help you.......Know that I love you and care......Take care of you....YOU are #1...
Love n hugs,
Wen........aka...Sid
ICC
06-04-2007, 11:29 AM
Thanks Sid.......I don't know which was bothering me more. Being misunderstood and hurting someone here or my own crap.:dizzy: I'm so tired of having to confront people when it comes to my health. After I had the breakdown last summer I really stepped up to the plate and took control of my health issues including the WC injuries. I am just so tired and don't feel like going through this again. I always had the same 2 PT's for my neck. Loved them both. I requested one particular one for my arm because I know he's good and listens. He believes in stopping when it hurts. I had two sessions with him and it made a world of difference in my ROM. I feel like this Lisa ruined what I have been taking care of,and I am religious about doing what I have to do, and what my regular PT was doing for me. You know what setbacks do. I am going to heat my arm, exercise it, call the supervisor and will be back with whatever I can offer all here. It does make me feel good to be able to help. I care about people. I should have been able to drive by next week , now won't be able to for another 2 weeks. On top of everything hubby has something goin gon in his belly and needs another colonoscopy and CT scan. I added him back onto my health inusrance starting July 1st. he only has Medicare right now so it will cost us a coupld of thousand $$$$ in co-pays . Going to call his PCP and see if it can wait a month and also ask ubby how bad th epain is if he can wait a month. This crap is all getting on my last nerve.
Love,
ICC
Love,
ICC
stick2013
06-04-2007, 11:54 AM
ICC,
Do what you need to do.....I have the wake to go to today....Will be back later.
As far as hubby is concerned....ICC I understand your concerns about the $$$ issues, but......Should you really wait with his health????
Love you,
Sid
Do what you need to do.....I have the wake to go to today....Will be back later.
As far as hubby is concerned....ICC I understand your concerns about the $$$ issues, but......Should you really wait with his health????
Love you,
Sid
ICC
06-04-2007, 01:21 PM
Sid.....my thoughts go with you. Don't hold back whether there or when you get home. Let them out. Cry until you can't cry anymore.
I talked to Hubby this morning and he said the Dr. didn't think it was an emergency. Just to double check I will talk to his PCP who is also mine tomorrow morning and make sure it won't hurt to wait a month. This has been off and on for about a year. Pain comes and goes. it seems to have something to do with food. No temp. Not always there. Diverticultis was my fear but he had a colonoscopy done a year ago and all was fine. Also had the CT scan, Upper Gi and God knows what else. I think he needs to stop eating whatever brings the pain on. You know how some people won't take the time to pay attention??? That's hubby. I called the supervisor who of course is on vacation until next Wed. and left a message. Am on stand by with the surgeon. Feel better since I 've called both and talked to you. I should have never held this back. for weeks. Won't happen again.
FTM.....see what happens when you hold it in.
Love and prayers,
ICC
I talked to Hubby this morning and he said the Dr. didn't think it was an emergency. Just to double check I will talk to his PCP who is also mine tomorrow morning and make sure it won't hurt to wait a month. This has been off and on for about a year. Pain comes and goes. it seems to have something to do with food. No temp. Not always there. Diverticultis was my fear but he had a colonoscopy done a year ago and all was fine. Also had the CT scan, Upper Gi and God knows what else. I think he needs to stop eating whatever brings the pain on. You know how some people won't take the time to pay attention??? That's hubby. I called the supervisor who of course is on vacation until next Wed. and left a message. Am on stand by with the surgeon. Feel better since I 've called both and talked to you. I should have never held this back. for weeks. Won't happen again.
FTM.....see what happens when you hold it in.
Love and prayers,
ICC
Sannah
06-04-2007, 01:57 PM
ICC, I am sorry! Keep venting!
beka6
06-04-2007, 02:12 PM
ICC,
I have been reading your posts. I'm sorry that I've been crap about responding to them. I have been thinking about you - just haven't had the words that would offer anything useful.
If the PT set you back a couple of weeks, then it sounds like that facility owes you at least two weeks worth of free PT. That is, if you have the energy at this point to stir that kettle of fish.
You sound worn out. I wish I could be your cheerleader right now - I just don't really know for myself that things ever get better. One thing is for sure - you are loved on this board. Please don't forget that.
Beka
I have been reading your posts. I'm sorry that I've been crap about responding to them. I have been thinking about you - just haven't had the words that would offer anything useful.
If the PT set you back a couple of weeks, then it sounds like that facility owes you at least two weeks worth of free PT. That is, if you have the energy at this point to stir that kettle of fish.
You sound worn out. I wish I could be your cheerleader right now - I just don't really know for myself that things ever get better. One thing is for sure - you are loved on this board. Please don't forget that.
Beka
ICC
06-04-2007, 02:35 PM
Sannah....I think I wore myself out this morning. Remember telling me it was a good thing I had the PTSD under control before the surgery???? well you don't kno whow right you were. I'm holding my own. getting angry at those I should be angry at more quickly than I would have months ago. I would like to see the surgeon before next week so I will persist everyday until I get in. As far as the supervisor of the PT facility I opted to wait for him to return from vacation next week than to run it by his asst. I'm not putting up with this. it's almost like an instant replay of last May when I got hurt. Thanks for caring.
Beka....Please never worry about words. right or wrong ones. telling me that you all love me are words enough. Thanks sweetheart. Love you too.
ICC:yawn:
Beka....Please never worry about words. right or wrong ones. telling me that you all love me are words enough. Thanks sweetheart. Love you too.
ICC:yawn:
Dee-nah
06-04-2007, 03:18 PM
ICC, I'm sorry.. Please get the bat! I've been so caught up in my own little world (which you have helped me and supported me 110%) that I feel ashamed of myself.
ICC
06-04-2007, 03:51 PM
No one has any need to be ashamed of themselves. No one neglected me or my needs. i never made them known until to day. Please all don't feel bad about anything. I'll be back. Not feeling to well.
ICC
ICC
stick2013
06-04-2007, 07:12 PM
ICC,
I am so proud of you that you called the supervisor(even if he wasn't there) So now you have a week to calm down, and think about what you are going to say(in a healthy, non threatening way) In other words, leave MY BAT alone for that conversation...:D hard as it will be......It's the best approach.
Do not take any crap, tell them that they owe you, an apology, and respect. You are in pain, and no matter how much or how little, you should be treated with respect, by caring therapist that is a professional. NOT someone that is more concerned about talking to someone else. Tell him that one false move, no matter how minor, could send you back in for surgery...Surgery that he would be paying for.......
The wake was ....Well I guess ok for a wake. I hugged his mom, and she said that I didn't need to be there, that I had said goodbye yesterday. I told her that I did, but was having a hard time letting go of Drew. She said that she knew, and had read the email that I had sent her in the morning. I had written that Drew was special from the day he was born, conceived of love, and had become the love of the community and all those he came in contact with.
I told her that I have watched him grow from a silly little boy to a fun loving, giving, courageous young man. That he is, and was an inspiration to all that knew him
I told her that he had his parents to thank for this. That they are, and were the most wonderful parents that Drew could ever have. They had taught him valuable lessons, and had molded him into the wonderful young man that he had become.
I also thanked them for letting me get to know Drew, and that I would carry his memory in my heart always. I also thanked them for the last 10 years of support that they have given me through the rough terrain that I have had to travel.
They really are special people. This shouldn't have happened to such caring parents. It really is a shame.
Hope that you feel better tomorrow, and the sun is shining. Be kind to yourself, and don't take any crap. Kick butt girlfriend.....:D :D
Love you,
Sid
I am so proud of you that you called the supervisor(even if he wasn't there) So now you have a week to calm down, and think about what you are going to say(in a healthy, non threatening way) In other words, leave MY BAT alone for that conversation...:D hard as it will be......It's the best approach.
Do not take any crap, tell them that they owe you, an apology, and respect. You are in pain, and no matter how much or how little, you should be treated with respect, by caring therapist that is a professional. NOT someone that is more concerned about talking to someone else. Tell him that one false move, no matter how minor, could send you back in for surgery...Surgery that he would be paying for.......
The wake was ....Well I guess ok for a wake. I hugged his mom, and she said that I didn't need to be there, that I had said goodbye yesterday. I told her that I did, but was having a hard time letting go of Drew. She said that she knew, and had read the email that I had sent her in the morning. I had written that Drew was special from the day he was born, conceived of love, and had become the love of the community and all those he came in contact with.
I told her that I have watched him grow from a silly little boy to a fun loving, giving, courageous young man. That he is, and was an inspiration to all that knew him
I told her that he had his parents to thank for this. That they are, and were the most wonderful parents that Drew could ever have. They had taught him valuable lessons, and had molded him into the wonderful young man that he had become.
I also thanked them for letting me get to know Drew, and that I would carry his memory in my heart always. I also thanked them for the last 10 years of support that they have given me through the rough terrain that I have had to travel.
They really are special people. This shouldn't have happened to such caring parents. It really is a shame.
Hope that you feel better tomorrow, and the sun is shining. Be kind to yourself, and don't take any crap. Kick butt girlfriend.....:D :D
Love you,
Sid
ICC
06-05-2007, 07:45 AM
Dear Sid,
As sad as all is that's happening in your life I am so glad that you and such wonderful people have touched each other's lives. Drew and his parents sound like wonderful people that all should have the pleasure of knowing, but some never do. You say they've been there through your trying times. My friend you are giving it back. I know this is all sohard for you but you will have peace in your thoughts of Drew always. The two of you shared and loved each other. That is what life should be. I'm happy that you have found some peace and you must know that you are a wonderful, strong, giving person who I forone am glad I have in my life.
I am going to call the surgeon everyday until he has a cancellation. I feel like crap all over and really think part of it is my fibro acting up.
I love you and my thoughts and prayers will be with you today,
ICC
As sad as all is that's happening in your life I am so glad that you and such wonderful people have touched each other's lives. Drew and his parents sound like wonderful people that all should have the pleasure of knowing, but some never do. You say they've been there through your trying times. My friend you are giving it back. I know this is all sohard for you but you will have peace in your thoughts of Drew always. The two of you shared and loved each other. That is what life should be. I'm happy that you have found some peace and you must know that you are a wonderful, strong, giving person who I forone am glad I have in my life.
I am going to call the surgeon everyday until he has a cancellation. I feel like crap all over and really think part of it is my fibro acting up.
I love you and my thoughts and prayers will be with you today,
ICC
stick2013
06-05-2007, 08:01 AM
ICC,
I am so sorry that you are going through this.... Keep calling, persistence will prevail. I think my fibro is acting up too. My back is really starting to bother me, and I am having numbness in my back and OMG in my privates too. Never had that....:eek: Feels awful!!!!!!!!!
The funeral is today, at 11.. Church is small so I think I will be there at 10, I want a seat. One of the young kids I know is doing one of the eulogy. There are a few speakers. Drew was cremated either last night or this morning. So sad....
Please take care of you..... I love you and will be here if you need me.
Hugs,
Sid
I am so sorry that you are going through this.... Keep calling, persistence will prevail. I think my fibro is acting up too. My back is really starting to bother me, and I am having numbness in my back and OMG in my privates too. Never had that....:eek: Feels awful!!!!!!!!!
The funeral is today, at 11.. Church is small so I think I will be there at 10, I want a seat. One of the young kids I know is doing one of the eulogy. There are a few speakers. Drew was cremated either last night or this morning. So sad....
Please take care of you..... I love you and will be here if you need me.
Hugs,
Sid
ICC
06-05-2007, 08:36 AM
And I for you my friend. Thoughts will be with you today. May he rest in peace as I'm sure he already is. Imagine the smiles he is bringing on up there.:)
Love you,
ICC xo
Love you,
ICC xo
stick2013
06-05-2007, 08:39 AM
ICC...
I know that you will HIT me with my own bat, but I wanted to Thank You for giving of yourself when YOU needed the help. It is so wonderful to know how much love, understanding, and help we get here.
You are my sister, my friend, my love. Thank You again...
Hugs,
Wen
I know that you will HIT me with my own bat, but I wanted to Thank You for giving of yourself when YOU needed the help. It is so wonderful to know how much love, understanding, and help we get here.
You are my sister, my friend, my love. Thank You again...
Hugs,
Wen
dustoffkid
06-05-2007, 08:46 AM
ICC-
Sorry I haven't been around. Now that hubby's home we've been working on and around the house, getting it ready to sell... and I find myself cooking a lot more (now that there is someone to cook for). Haven't been as good a friend to y'all as perhaps you needed.
But I am here to tell you that I support you completely, and I am glad that you are standing up for your healthcare rights. You have the right to be treated with honesty and respect (and the right to demand it if you aren't). It's included in the Patient's Bill of Rights which I will post here if you want me to, we have them all over the place here at work).
Love you, pal, you take care of yourself and I will keep praying for you.
Dustoff
Sorry I haven't been around. Now that hubby's home we've been working on and around the house, getting it ready to sell... and I find myself cooking a lot more (now that there is someone to cook for). Haven't been as good a friend to y'all as perhaps you needed.
But I am here to tell you that I support you completely, and I am glad that you are standing up for your healthcare rights. You have the right to be treated with honesty and respect (and the right to demand it if you aren't). It's included in the Patient's Bill of Rights which I will post here if you want me to, we have them all over the place here at work).
Love you, pal, you take care of yourself and I will keep praying for you.
Dustoff
ICC
06-05-2007, 10:42 AM
Dustoff....You have always been a good friend. I am so happy you are enjoying hubby when he's there and the COOKING!!! Oh my i hope you like to. I hate it after cooking for 40 years LOL You and SId both used the same word RESPECT !!!! That's exactly the feeling like she had no respect for my health, my mind, anything but her own agenda of debating her issues on the phone. I was so flabergasted I finally had to just tell her it wasn't going to happen and Goodbye. Am lucky that I got a cancellation with the surgeon at 11:00. will tell him all and hope he can help. I just can't stand the pain anymore. No ease up for almost 6 weeks now.24/7. I started to make headway and the PT ruined it. I am not a quiter so this morning made up my mind that HE would see me one way or the other. Need to heal and get on with it. I'm just sorry I excepted it and din't bring the problem here sooner. LIVE AND LEARN! as our Sid would say.
Hugs,
ICC
Hugs,
ICC
ICC
06-05-2007, 10:44 AM
Dear Sid,
The feeling is mutual. No bat, but no thanks needed either. We're here for a reason and I believe we have proved that reason many times over. I am so glad I brought my distress to you yesterday . Couldn't go on another minute. So you see my friend, no matter what is going on with the other neither are selfish people. Amazing how those closest to us all our lives never saw it.
Love you,
ICC :)
The feeling is mutual. No bat, but no thanks needed either. We're here for a reason and I believe we have proved that reason many times over. I am so glad I brought my distress to you yesterday . Couldn't go on another minute. So you see my friend, no matter what is going on with the other neither are selfish people. Amazing how those closest to us all our lives never saw it.
Love you,
ICC :)
stick2013
06-05-2007, 10:48 AM
ICC Angel,
I hope that you finally get some answers TODAY... Tell the surgeon EVERYTHING..... I will say a prayer for you.
Can't tell you how I feel since finding the boards, and YOU...... You mean so much to me. I know the feelings a mutual, so it makes it doubly wonderful.
Thanks my sister in arms......
My friend,
Hugs,
Sid
I hope that you finally get some answers TODAY... Tell the surgeon EVERYTHING..... I will say a prayer for you.
Can't tell you how I feel since finding the boards, and YOU...... You mean so much to me. I know the feelings a mutual, so it makes it doubly wonderful.
Thanks my sister in arms......
My friend,
Hugs,
Sid
ICC
06-05-2007, 10:59 AM
Dear Wendy,AKA.Sid-AKA.Stick
You remembered!:blob_fire . Hubby is taking me so believe me if i should forget anything he will be right up the surgeon's butt.:eek: I am also glad we found each other. "Sister's in arms" You got that right. be safe, be well and please try to be at peace though the funeral. I'm with you, you're never alone.
Love you,
Angel xo
You remembered!:blob_fire . Hubby is taking me so believe me if i should forget anything he will be right up the surgeon's butt.:eek: I am also glad we found each other. "Sister's in arms" You got that right. be safe, be well and please try to be at peace though the funeral. I'm with you, you're never alone.
Love you,
Angel xo
stick2013
06-05-2007, 03:29 PM
ICC.... We found each other for a reason......There is ALWAYS a reason behind everything.....
How could I forget, You and Drew are my angel's........:angel: :angel:
Hugs,
Sid
How could I forget, You and Drew are my angel's........:angel: :angel:
Hugs,
Sid