I take other people's problem's to heart, probably too much for my own good.
I just feel like this perfectly normal human being with flaws just like the rest of us is being crucified because of her wealth and celebrity status. Nobody is sentenced that many days for what she did. It makes me sick and I know she is sufferihng from mental illness. The Sheriff said she arrived to the jail medicated and with serious mental health issues. I am told she is not eating, not sleeping, covered in hives from stress, and with high blood pressure. Her attourney also defended my husband in his Beverly Hills DUI. My husband got off easier and was well above the legal limit not at the low end like Paris.
I guess I shouldn't read the news, it's so upsetting.
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emeraldeyes114
06-09-2007, 12:08 AM
Lucky,
Normally I would agree with you and if it were anyone other then her I would probably still. So that is part of my problem really don't like her. That aside the law threw the proverbial book and to me I could be okay with it if she had served half the time when they accounted for good behavior type thing. The trouble with it is that her celebrity status has gotten her an out card though briefly in this matter. (I am almost betting I will be the unpopular voice on this particular thread :D that is ok normally I ain't) Anyway mental status has little to do with at times breaking the law. If in jail you are shown or known to have problems then there are places they can and will take you for these problems. And in a hospital that time is counted towards the jail time served. She however was not taken that route as other prisoners would have been. That is my problem with ok along with her. It is saying ok celebrities are ok at times to break the law and if they bat those pretty little lashes we'll smack their hands and let them loose. The SHeriff's department and the sheriff mainly himself will have some explaining to do and I imagine that this is just the beginning really. Fair? A lot of things are not fair in life for a lot of people but up till now she didn't give a hoot about other people as long as she got her hot ticket!
Sorry to be the kill joy in this but honestly I am glad that she was and is back in jail serving for something she did do wrong. She should've appealed the sentence if she thought it were so unfair and like the one lawyer said they probably had this in the works before she ever went. She was the one who said she would do the time and not fight it and withdrew the appeal. So now she has apparently won't get time off for good behavior though on that I am not clear on really but that was the way the Suprerior Court dude sounded other then ticked. Maybe he is making an example out of her and sending a clear message that being a celebrity doesn't make it right for you to break the law or drive away from a car you hit, drive under the influence, drive with a suspended license, or bat those pretty little lashes and expect us to feel bad for you. Her best buddy is soon going to trial on similar charges and she seems more ready for what may come then Paris.
So sorry once again I do hate being the not sure of the word right now in any given topic except for Paris HIlton. :mad:
Eme
ps-right now world wise I am more worried about my son be willing to go to Iraq then what that blonde Hollywood Morale officer does or gets anyway!
luckygem13
06-09-2007, 01:11 AM
I think the thing about Paris that people either love or hate is her shallow blonde bimbetteness..."That's hot, Whatever"...all the while dressing to the nines and traveling the world and looking fab with Dad's money and not a care in the world. That thing about her I think will be gone for ever, she is now a broken woman, for better or worse. I think now she will be serious and boring and nervous and depressed, like the rest of us....ordinary......not too interesting to watch. I think she was a great escape for lots of people to daydream and watch her life.
Iraq is more imprtant, of course, but I can't handle it. Thankfully other people can. I'm very sensitive to violence and negativity in the media. I know we need to defend our country and do my best to be supportive. I just (personally) can't think about it too much.
kwj001
06-09-2007, 01:29 AM
None of us can know what she is going through - but she certainly had several chances to do right. Do the crime and pay the time. The only thing I don't like is the "Let's make an example out of someone" when there are plenty of rapists, murderers, pedophiles out running scott free. However, she broke the law - several times over and she ran out of free passes. Having said all that - wouldn't we all be a basketcase in her shoes? I for one find the thought of going to jail to be horrifying - so she's definitely scared and reality is slapping her real hard in the face. Hopefully, she'll come out of this ordeal a stronger, better person.
I can't believe I posted about her. I must be tired.:p
luckygem13
06-09-2007, 01:39 AM
Paris has "parisites"....leeches that want a piece of her....this judge wants a book deal and his 5 minutes of fame and he's destroying her to get it. She deserves to be punished, to do a couple of days in jail, lose her license & do community service...that's a NORMAL sentence for what she did.
Her publicist told her she could drive the second time because it was work related and he was wrong. I know that very busy, famous people do what "their people" tell them to do because they never get a minute to themselves to read their own mail, they rely on others because they are very busy. I can see how this happened.
Dee-nah
06-09-2007, 08:38 AM
I could care less about her so I won't get into what I think, I do agree with Eme.....
jules3
06-09-2007, 09:52 AM
well, i feel bad for her.
pamelareichert
06-09-2007, 10:53 AM
Personally I am against ALL drunk drivers! Because when they hit someone its not them that dies its the one that wasnt doing anything wrong!!! Paris has gotten away with DUI before. Personally, I think since she is a high celb. she thinks she can get away with more!! I personally think all DUI's should end up in some jail time or working for MADD earing money for them!! To many lives have been lost due to drunk drivers!!
Pamela
goody2shuz
06-09-2007, 11:44 AM
I have compassion for everybody and really feel bad for kids who grow up in the celebrity limelight never really having their parents full time attention and learning anything but that kind of life. I am not saying that all celebrities live that way....there are many who try to protect their children by providing them as normal a family life as is possible.
With that being said, I really really dislike when all these celebrities or Virginia Tech massacre assaliants are almost glorified by the media getting tons of attention. The media needs to focus on some positive aspects of the bad things that happen and give more focus on the victims, their lifestyles and the good lives that they led. Instead our children are seeing some of their role models almost glorified and getting all kinds of attention for the terrible things they do.
Last night, every channel had Paris' saga broadcasting....the truth of the matter is that it wasn't her first DUI....I believe it was her 3rd and she broke her probation at least three times and the judge and society gave her plenty of chances to straighten out her act. I believe that letting things slide not only brings about potential harm to those who may cross her path while she is driving drunk but also will not allow her to have a chance of turning her life around realizing that in real life there are consequences to your actions.
If she is depressed or has BP then she should definitely be evaluated and the courts mandate proper psychiatric care that will count towards her overall time that she was sentenced to.
I am trying to teach my daughter that BP or not there will always be consequences to her actions and that is why she should always make sure that she takes her meds so that she doesn't end up in a situation where she will be in jail or perhaps even worse off. She already had a brush with the law before she was properly diagnosed and medicated and thank goodness those charges were dropped after she proved that she could do better after being treated for BP. She now has her life back and I am hoping for the same thing for Paris....to let her go is to insure that she either kills somebody or herself. This may be the very thing that saves her life!!
Just my two cents worth.;)
Love ~ Goody:angel: :wave:
luckygem13
06-09-2007, 01:07 PM
Paris has one DUI and 2 parole violations. She was at the lowest possible level on the breathalizer that you can be to get a DUI. She had one cocktail but hadn't eaten and is very thin. She violated parole by driving and was told she could not drive. The second violation was for the fact that she drove but thought it was OK because it was work related. Her publicist told her it was OK to make that trip and has publicly stated so and apologized.
AussieTam
06-11-2007, 10:00 AM
My reaction has been mostly "Suck it down you silly woman" [but said with powerful expletives] because I've been a bit manic, and I'm horribly nasty when like that! Then there is also the fact that I've got no respect for her whatsoever.
What do I think now? I do sympathise with her, being in an itty bitty cell can't be a picnic. Yet, I am a firm believer of accepting the consequences of one's own actions, as I believe there are no mitigating circumstances here. Being rich and clueless does not count. You do the crime, you do the time. Furthermore, she has been completely undignified since she was sent down. Real women, elegant, classy women would take it on the chin, do the time and then move on! If they were going through hell inside, they would deal with it privately with the appropriate staff (whether it be physicians or psychiatrists). That was what really got me. This is the essence of Paris Hilton - she has no class. And I was hoping that some jail time would mean that we wouldn't have to hear about her for awhile. LOL.
rosequartz
06-11-2007, 10:22 AM
I think more people are upset that it seemed like she was getting off the hook and getting special privledges. I think if other people did what she did they would get MORE time and MORE repercussions......I don't think anyone should be feeling sorry for the poor little rich girl.
leomia
06-12-2007, 10:34 AM
I think it doesnt matter who it is. its what they did. DId they break the law? yes? well then they should get the same punishment as anyone else.
I dont agree with celebrities being allowed to break the law and get away scot free!
So if she deserves it then good. If she has mental issues then she should go to the hospital. Just cuz your pretty doesnt exempt you from the law!
I am so glad I dont have a TV ... doesnt mean I dont somehow get the news other ways but it helps keep most of it away. I hate the media, they take sides usually the wrong one most times
luckygem13
06-12-2007, 12:15 PM
Paris is not getting the same treatment as everybody else, she is getting WORSE treatment. I am very familiar with the LA court system and DUI's in particular. Nobody gets more than 1 or 2 days in jail for what she did. This judge is making a name for himself.
It shouldn't matter whether people like her or not, she should be treated the same as everyone else regardless.
rosequartz
06-12-2007, 12:30 PM
Paris is not getting the same treatment as everybody else, she is getting WORSE treatment. I am very familiar with the LA court system and DUI's in particular. Nobody gets more than 1 or 2 days in jail for what she did. This judge is making a name for himself.
It shouldn't matter whether people like her or not, she should be treated the same as everyone else regardless.
why are you defending her? don't do the crime if you can't do the time.....
she is not getting worse treatment, she's got a private cell, etc.
she WAS getting preferential treatment until the judge sent her butt back to jail.....
and she probably STILL is getting preferential treatment.....don't kid yourself.
Dee-nah
06-12-2007, 12:52 PM
She is an idiot..... She is in there for 4 days and now she wants to give money to all kinds of charities??? She gets to talk to Barbra Walters about how stupid her life was and now it has meaning?!?! It's not even been a week?!?! She should be arrested on dumbness a lone...
Wow, I'm sorry but that felt good! I'm must be angry....
luckygem13
06-12-2007, 02:14 PM
why are you defending her? don't do the crime if you can't do the time.....
she is not getting worse treatment, she's got a private cell, etc.
she WAS getting preferential treatment until the judge sent her butt back to jail.....
and she probably STILL is getting preferential treatment.....don't kid yourself.
My brother got 2 DUI's, one involving an accident, he spent zero days in jail. Her sentence is not normal. A private cell might be special treatment but anyone at high risk for getting attacked in jail is put in isolation. I guess most people just cannot find empathy for dumb, thin, cute, rich, blonde girls. I am clearly in the minority here. :confused:
rosequartz
06-12-2007, 03:53 PM
My brother got 2 DUI's, one involving an accident, he spent zero days in jail. Her sentence is not normal. A private cell might be special treatment but anyone at high risk for getting attacked in jail is put in isolation. I guess most people just cannot find empathy for dumb, thin, cute, rich, blonde girls. I am clearly in the minority here. :confused:
well I guess your brother was lucky and had a good lawyer.....
maybe the next person he gets in an accident with won't be so lucky.....are you proud of your brother, are you defending him? I'm confused.
so do you think that people should be permitted to rack up a couple dui's, accidents and just walk away like your brother did? I'm not sure I understand where your anger is coming from.
I'd be more mad that someone repeatedly drinks and drives, has accidents and gets off scott free......I'd be mad at people like your brother who show no regard for the safety of others.......aren't you mad at him and his behavior? Why are you concerned with Paris? You've got more pressing issues closer to home.
bipolarbear
06-12-2007, 04:17 PM
She is an idiot..... She is in there for 4 days and now she wants to give money to all kinds of charities??? She gets to talk to Barbra Walters about how stupid her life was and now it has meaning?!?! It's not even been a week?!?! She should be arrested on dumbness a lone...
Wow, I'm sorry but that felt good! I'm must be angry....
Dee-Nah:
You are a woman after my own heart; you speak what a lot of people think but don't have the nerve to say!
Yes, all of a sudden she has this epiphany; an awakening, a realization. She's dumber than dirt, a spoiled rotten, irreverent, cavalier, self-absorbed, irresponsible, over-rated, disrespectful walking joke.
She needs a big, fat lesson in humillity and responsibility.
luckygem13
06-12-2007, 04:59 PM
well I guess your brother was lucky and had a good lawyer.....
maybe the next person he gets in an accident with won't be so lucky.....are you proud of your brother, are you defending him? I'm confused.
so do you think that people should be permitted to rack up a couple dui's, accidents and just walk away like your brother did? I'm not sure I understand where your anger is coming from.
I'd be more mad that someone repeatedly drinks and drives, has accidents and gets off scott free......I'd be mad at people like your brother who show no regard for the safety of others.......aren't you mad at him and his behavior? Why are you concerned with Paris? You've got more pressing issues closer to home.
No I'm NOT proud of my brother. My point is most people do not get sentenced for the amount of jail time she has for what she did. Whether or not people should or shouldn't get that amount of jail time is a separate issue.
Paris Hilton is not very smart and has been spoiled her whole life, that shouldn't affect how much jail time she gets. If an exotic dancer and Mother Teresa commit the same crime they should get the same punishment, that's my point.
Dee-nah
06-12-2007, 06:44 PM
Luckygem, you make me laugh! It's Mother Teresa,c'mon,what did she do to you???
luckygem13
06-12-2007, 09:09 PM
Luckygem, you make me laugh! It's Mother Teresa,c'mon,what did she do to you???
Ummmm, The same thing as the exotic dancer....it was an analogy :confused:
Dee-nah
06-12-2007, 09:12 PM
It's because Mother Teresa is not blonde isn't it = )
jules3
06-12-2007, 09:42 PM
Oh give the kid a break, because she is just that A KID.
luckygem13
06-12-2007, 09:57 PM
It's because Mother Teresa is not blonde isn't it = )
Well I sure wish I could think of a saintlike peroxide blonde...too bad I can't ; )
Paris has some mental/cognitive functioning and neurological issues like most all of us on this board. It is not OK to make fun of people because they are stupid or "dumb as dirt". She knows she has flaws and mental deficits and has made the best of her life, just as we all have. How many of you can say you have NEVER gotten into a car and driven, even once, after having consumed ONE cocktail?
I really try to love everyone, flaws and all. But this is like the natives are running around with her shrunken head on a stick, not cool (or should I say that is NOT hot, LOL!), NOBODY deserves that.
Luvya,
Luckygem
Dee-nah
06-12-2007, 10:23 PM
Maybe she should donate money to NAMI then?
luckygem13
06-12-2007, 11:30 PM
Maybe she should donate money to NAMI then?
Sounds like a plan...if she survives this, she is on suicide watch again : (
emeraldeyes114
06-13-2007, 12:08 AM
luckygem13,
I am sure there were a few blonde saints in the mix somewhere. The saint Catharine I think probably mis-spelled her name was a bombshell or so it is said and from a very noble family. So it does happen.
I think even now that I take Paris from the mix and substract my ultimate dislike for her (okay a toughy lol) and subtract that she is not Einstein (ok neither am I) and think a minute...thinking...ok a little more here....must be the old age kicking in....voila got a thought.
People don't always get sentenced the same time for the same crime celebrity or not. There are all kinds of things that play into it. This time no one was hurt besides the fact she has to go through the ordeal of jail. I do understand it is no fun or a picnic and having claustrophobia makes it worse. At least she doesn't have the fear that some chick either A) will beat her up for being who she is B) make her a bride C) nightmare stuff no one wants to know about or anything else. Most people in jail those are things they have to worry about cept for being beat up for who they are normally...sometimes you get it for other reasons.
I got family and friends dead from drunk drivers. The limit is just that and even at the low end it is still breaking the law. I hope she learns but then again I hope money starts growing on the tree I planted, we learn from our past mistakes and so does she, that life won't always be one heartbreak after another though probably not too much for her.
Yeap suffering is suffering no matter who it is I do agree with that. I don't like to see anyone suffer (ok cept maybe for Paris sorry just don't like her that much probably wouldn't even if she was Mother Teresa and I loved Mother Teresa tons).
So just a kinder Eme for the day. Nothing wrong with how you feel. Nothing wrong with how we all feel. At least we can discuss it and read what others think. Hope you are having a smiley day! :D
Eme
luckygem13
06-13-2007, 12:59 AM
luckygem13,
I am sure there were a few blonde saints in the mix somewhere. The saint Catharine I think probably mis-spelled her name was a bombshell or so it is said and from a very noble family. So it does happen.
I think even now that I take Paris from the mix and substract my ultimate dislike for her (okay a toughy lol) and subtract that she is not Einstein (ok neither am I) and think a minute...thinking...ok a little more here....must be the old age kicking in....voila got a thought.
People don't always get sentenced the same time for the same crime celebrity or not. There are all kinds of things that play into it. This time no one was hurt besides the fact she has to go through the ordeal of jail. I do understand it is no fun or a picnic and having claustrophobia makes it worse. At least she doesn't have the fear that some chick either A) will beat her up for being who she is B) make her a bride C) nightmare stuff no one wants to know about or anything else. Most people in jail those are things they have to worry about cept for being beat up for who they are normally...sometimes you get it for other reasons.
I got family and friends dead from drunk drivers. The limit is just that and even at the low end it is still breaking the law. I hope she learns but then again I hope money starts growing on the tree I planted, we learn from our past mistakes and so does she, that life won't always be one heartbreak after another though probably not too much for her.
Yeap suffering is suffering no matter who it is I do agree with that. I don't like to see anyone suffer (ok cept maybe for Paris sorry just don't like her that much probably wouldn't even if she was Mother Teresa and I loved Mother Teresa tons).
So just a kinder Eme for the day. Nothing wrong with how you feel. Nothing wrong with how we all feel. At least we can discuss it and read what others think. Hope you are having a smiley day! :D
Eme
I am so sorry you got family and friends dead from drunk drivers. I got lots of family and friends with DUI's but not a one of them hurt anybody, Thank God!!!
California and Florida are both basically "police states" and it doesn't take much to get a DUI, one cocktail if you haven't eaten (and you're a skinny blonde, LOL!). Maybe, they need to raise the level of what is considered a DUI.....not sure, just a thought. I DO know Paris never challenged her breathalizer and she could have, EASILY, because she was at the lowest level to be arrested and there are lots of things that can throw a breathalizer off a point or two. The blood test is the way to go and really ought to be used more, IMHO.
How many idiots have achieved the fame and fortune she has? And I tell you she supports herself. She has a music CD, she is a model and a spokesperson for several companies....not bad for an "idiot". She normally does not drink at all, because she needs to take medication.
Well, if you haven't guessed by now...Luckygem13 is a skinny, rich, peroxide blonde, with some neurological deficits.....but hey we can't have everything, right?
Luvya,
Luckygem (rich ***** blonde, LOL!) 13
rosequartz
06-13-2007, 09:55 AM
Paris has some mental/cognitive functioning and neurological issues like most all of us on this board. It is not OK to make fun of people because they are stupid or "dumb as dirt". She knows she has flaws and mental deficits and has made the best of her life, just as we all have.
Luckygem
oh really? can you elaborate? I never heard of any neurological issues.....where are you getting this information from?
I didn't think being a rich spoiled brat was a medical condition.....
and BTW whe's not stupid or dumb as dirt.....she's playing dumb, I thought you knew that.....I thought everyone knew that....
Dee-nah
06-13-2007, 09:58 AM
I can't believe we have 7 flippin pages on Paris Hilton!
leomia
06-13-2007, 10:25 AM
ya, seriously, you can all think what you want about her, or not think it, or not care, like me, but 7 pages of fighting about it, give me a break! is this helping anyones BP ? No! then just end it will you!
emeraldeyes114
06-13-2007, 11:18 AM
Rosequartz,
Yeap it has been released that she does have problems neuro and psycho. She does and is a model. I can actually say a few decent things :eek: about her. Her sister and she shared an apartment years ago. They had to rely on only themselves no trust fund to do so. So with careers they paid bills and if they were late they got shut off. Yeap they lost water and power a couple of times. When her sister and she were talking about it I was almost stunned to a point cause she was a different person or seemed to be.
It is a not an arguement about Paris per say but I think more about the legal system and what doesn't seem to work as the forefathers had in mind. What is right for one person should be right for all. Yeap it does in a way affect being Bipolar if you think about it. Such as the treatment for psychological disorders in jail is a problem that for many goes chiefly ignored depending on some states. That fact that the system is fighting the system itself. The fact that often people who suffer from bipolar (though she doesn't to my understanding have it) are not treated as fairly or equally as perhaps Joe Doe or Jenny Doe or a celebrity. One law, one land, one punishment for all! ok it's a nice thought perhaps it happens in Oz or somewhere like that.
Eme
Luckygem13,
Thank you for the kind words. Yeap too many dead from drunk driving. It is something close to my heart. I have no tolerance for it. And several others later ended up dead via suicide because of the initial death. It is a toll that keeps growing really.
I have nothing against blondes (been one via a box once or twice), thin (been that a couple times via anorexia), or really anyone in general. But DUI and Paris in the same sentence just gets the girdle in a twist. lol Ouch! Luckily the fervor will soon die and we'll move on to Harry Potter! The last book is coming out! ok more important things really family, vacations, life, etc.
Take care of you!
Eme
rosequartz
06-13-2007, 04:39 PM
Rosequartz,
Yeap it has been released that she does have problems neuro and psycho. . The fact that often people who suffer from bipolar (though she doesn't to my understanding have it) are not treated as fairly or equally as perhaps Joe Doe or Jenny Doe or a celebrity.
Eme
could you elaborate a little more.....what problems does she have? Unless you can say specifically she has a diagnosis, just saying she has neuro and psycho problems, but not bi-polar doesn't mean anything......
luckygem13
06-13-2007, 05:47 PM
could you elaborate a little more.....what problems does she have? Unless you can say specifically she has a diagnosis, just saying she has neuro and psycho problems, but not bi-polar doesn't mean anything......
Her medical records are supposed to be private but what has leaked out is that she has severe ADD (for which she takes Adderal) and claustrophobia. She has bolted out of several stores having panic attacks so people have seen that. It has also been announced that she has very severe mental problems that existed before she went to jail, medical records are supposed to be confidential so they aren't going to elaborate without her permission. As of yesterday her mental state declined and the guards observed "erratic" behavior and she was put on suicide watch.