luckygem13
06-11-2007, 02:32 AM
Just a thought. I suffer from (and basically always have) unipolar depression. The bipolars in my life are so full of positive energy and enthusiasm (yes I know they eventually crash, but)...they make me feel ALIVE. I know of a few other couples who are in the same boat as me & my husband...one with depression and the other partner with bipolar. I haven't read much about this phenomenon but it intrigues me and I do believe there is something there. Anyone ever heard of this?
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marshmallow
06-11-2007, 03:33 AM
Lucky, I was never depressed until I lived with a bper. It has dragged me to the depths of despair. The ever changing moods and rage has done so much damage to me. For me the depression came after.
MSLAINIE
06-11-2007, 03:43 AM
Hi Luckygem13,
That is an interesting question. I am not BP but do go thru depression from time to time. But all my boyfriend and best friend are BP. My ex is BP and my son. So do I attract BP??? My depression is not often usually depending on my stress. I dont take meds now but I have in past. But on other hand all my BP's are so different and I dont feel they are any different then me. I think in this world of ours there are more people with some depression or illness than we know. I get upset because I dont think the public is informed enough.
I never really heard or read anything about this connection or attraction.
Your question after thinking about it,would make me believe you are on to something.
Thanks for the thought, I needed a distraction.
Mslainie
That is an interesting question. I am not BP but do go thru depression from time to time. But all my boyfriend and best friend are BP. My ex is BP and my son. So do I attract BP??? My depression is not often usually depending on my stress. I dont take meds now but I have in past. But on other hand all my BP's are so different and I dont feel they are any different then me. I think in this world of ours there are more people with some depression or illness than we know. I get upset because I dont think the public is informed enough.
I never really heard or read anything about this connection or attraction.
Your question after thinking about it,would make me believe you are on to something.
Thanks for the thought, I needed a distraction.
Mslainie
luckygem13
06-11-2007, 03:44 AM
Hi Marsh,
I believe being married to a bipolar has brought out a lot of anxiety in me but the depression almost seems better or at least no worse....it's the damn anxiety that I can't get over. I don't know maybe I am what they call bipolar III, a mild bipolar disorder that is brought on by the antidepressants....God knows I can never relax. Granted my husband is extremely unpredictable.....with a temper that I guess would give any wife anxiety.
How is life treating you? I do hope you are going out and having some fun. If you were in my "hood" I'd definitely be hauling your butt out for some fun activities!
Luvya,
Luckygem
I believe being married to a bipolar has brought out a lot of anxiety in me but the depression almost seems better or at least no worse....it's the damn anxiety that I can't get over. I don't know maybe I am what they call bipolar III, a mild bipolar disorder that is brought on by the antidepressants....God knows I can never relax. Granted my husband is extremely unpredictable.....with a temper that I guess would give any wife anxiety.
How is life treating you? I do hope you are going out and having some fun. If you were in my "hood" I'd definitely be hauling your butt out for some fun activities!
Luvya,
Luckygem
luckygem13
06-11-2007, 03:57 AM
Mslanie,
Maybe you are Bipolar II? Just a thought. You say your depression comes and goes.....interesting because my depression stays and stays, LOL! AND you say the Bipolars in your life don't seem any different than you. The Bipolars in my life seem VERY different than me. I mean I can spot them a mile away and predict what will happen next with their behavior. This amazes my husband and he thinks I'm psychic....more like perceptive, LOL!
I just seem to have lots of bipolar friends. My p doc thinks this is because I live in a certain neighborhod that she is familiar with, let's just say we live at an extreme end of the socioecenomic scale. She literally said to me, "Well, you live in "_____" that's where all the crazy people live." ***? She said, Well that's a neighborhood where people have the ability to focus on one thing and ignore everything else....Hmmmm, very interesting because the "ignoring" part has gotten my husband into a lot of trouble....so I can't just ignore her words.
Take Care,
Luckygem13
Maybe you are Bipolar II? Just a thought. You say your depression comes and goes.....interesting because my depression stays and stays, LOL! AND you say the Bipolars in your life don't seem any different than you. The Bipolars in my life seem VERY different than me. I mean I can spot them a mile away and predict what will happen next with their behavior. This amazes my husband and he thinks I'm psychic....more like perceptive, LOL!
I just seem to have lots of bipolar friends. My p doc thinks this is because I live in a certain neighborhod that she is familiar with, let's just say we live at an extreme end of the socioecenomic scale. She literally said to me, "Well, you live in "_____" that's where all the crazy people live." ***? She said, Well that's a neighborhood where people have the ability to focus on one thing and ignore everything else....Hmmmm, very interesting because the "ignoring" part has gotten my husband into a lot of trouble....so I can't just ignore her words.
Take Care,
Luckygem13
MSLAINIE
06-11-2007, 04:43 AM
You Know Luckygem13,
I never thought about it. My worst depression was my divorce 9 years ago. Then when my ex BP and was on pcp. He was scary and stalking me for a long time. He has been in and out of prison. I also has a cancer gyn and 6 operations in 6years. My childhood was good and my p's are still together after 43yrs. I know my Mom had depression after her hysterectomy at 29 and I just had a complete at 41. My brother and daughter are adhd. My doc told me I have situation depression and my gyn said my hormones also was a contribution to the depression. I really dont know the different BP like you said BP2. My son was never given a #. When my sons symtoms started he was suicidal,homicidal, in and out of psy hospitals. It took a long time to get his medscombo correct. I never experienced my sons symtoms.
One reason I dont feel different from my BP's in my life is I look at their hearts and yes sometimes it is hard when they are on their lows or means times so I back off. I hate especially my son labled as BP. Some people even in my family think you can catch it like the flu.
I am not sure what you mean about ignoring and where you live??? I would like you to elaborate so I understand. I think you mean alot of BP's live in same area? But my closest BP's are not in same area's or states and we are all in different fields. I am an accountant. Please tell me if I am getting what you mean. Now the ignoring, I never considered me having BP. Thanks for lol and let me know if I understood your post.
Thank You
Mslainie
I never thought about it. My worst depression was my divorce 9 years ago. Then when my ex BP and was on pcp. He was scary and stalking me for a long time. He has been in and out of prison. I also has a cancer gyn and 6 operations in 6years. My childhood was good and my p's are still together after 43yrs. I know my Mom had depression after her hysterectomy at 29 and I just had a complete at 41. My brother and daughter are adhd. My doc told me I have situation depression and my gyn said my hormones also was a contribution to the depression. I really dont know the different BP like you said BP2. My son was never given a #. When my sons symtoms started he was suicidal,homicidal, in and out of psy hospitals. It took a long time to get his medscombo correct. I never experienced my sons symtoms.
One reason I dont feel different from my BP's in my life is I look at their hearts and yes sometimes it is hard when they are on their lows or means times so I back off. I hate especially my son labled as BP. Some people even in my family think you can catch it like the flu.
I am not sure what you mean about ignoring and where you live??? I would like you to elaborate so I understand. I think you mean alot of BP's live in same area? But my closest BP's are not in same area's or states and we are all in different fields. I am an accountant. Please tell me if I am getting what you mean. Now the ignoring, I never considered me having BP. Thanks for lol and let me know if I understood your post.
Thank You
Mslainie
Beautifulchild
06-11-2007, 06:19 AM
Many books I have read do say that people with a mental disorder are quite often attracted to someone else with a mental disorder, and they don't have to be the same conditions. Maybe it is because they understand each other better when they are having a bad day.
My sister suffers from severe depression and her partner has schizophrenia. He is often unmedicated and she is fine with his sometimes strange behaviour. I think she finds it easier being with someone who does not suffer from depression like she does. She cannot cope with other people being depressed so they seem to be a perfect match. He puts up with her down moods ( he thinks she is cute when she is angry) and she puts up with him talking to people who are not there.
All round they seem to have quite a good relationship.:dizzy:
My sister suffers from severe depression and her partner has schizophrenia. He is often unmedicated and she is fine with his sometimes strange behaviour. I think she finds it easier being with someone who does not suffer from depression like she does. She cannot cope with other people being depressed so they seem to be a perfect match. He puts up with her down moods ( he thinks she is cute when she is angry) and she puts up with him talking to people who are not there.
All round they seem to have quite a good relationship.:dizzy:
Dee-nah
06-11-2007, 07:39 AM
I have BP1 and I seem to go out with people that either have a subtance abuse problem (which is a form of depression) or they are just depressed. I also have co dependency issues so this plays a huge part in all this. I truely believe if I see someone that is "normal" it would help me out a great deal as far as self esteem goes.
AussieTam
06-11-2007, 09:32 AM
Many books I have read do say that people with a mental disorder are quite often attracted to someone else with a mental disorder, and they don't have to be the same conditions. Maybe it is because they understand each other better when they are having a bad day
I think this makes sense. My Dad is Bipolar, and my Mum has chronic unipolar depression. I am bipolar, and my current partner suffers from mild depression, previous partner before him severe depression, one before that mild depression. I also seem to have a lot of friends with different conditions; got friends with anxiety, ADD, and chronic unipolar depression. I really think it is because we understand each other more, my partner seems to know my moods better than I do - he knows when I'm heading into a mania before I do, it's really freaky! Especially because we are currently living 1000's of k's apart!
I think this makes sense. My Dad is Bipolar, and my Mum has chronic unipolar depression. I am bipolar, and my current partner suffers from mild depression, previous partner before him severe depression, one before that mild depression. I also seem to have a lot of friends with different conditions; got friends with anxiety, ADD, and chronic unipolar depression. I really think it is because we understand each other more, my partner seems to know my moods better than I do - he knows when I'm heading into a mania before I do, it's really freaky! Especially because we are currently living 1000's of k's apart!
jules3
06-11-2007, 11:42 AM
I do not have bp, my son is being treated for depression and anxiety maybe bp. he is on an ad and a mood stabilizer. he too had an addiction problem...i definitly noticed him graviting towards depressed peers and vice versa.. he will tell me straight out that he has things in common with those people thats why they hang out together...maybe it goes back to that old saying misery loves company. who knows? i personally think in his case its not a good thing. i see them bringing him down and 1 of them turned into a drug buddy. which is not good. thank god my son has been off drugs for 90 days now. but hes dealing with his moods every day.
luckygem13
06-11-2007, 03:01 PM
Many books I have read do say that people with a mental disorder are quite often attracted to someone else with a mental disorder, and they don't have to be the same conditions. Maybe it is because they understand each other better when they are having a bad day.
My sister suffers from severe depression and her partner has schizophrenia. He is often unmedicated and she is fine with his sometimes strange behaviour. I think she finds it easier being with someone who does not suffer from depression like she does. She cannot cope with other people being depressed so they seem to be a perfect match. He puts up with her down moods ( he thinks she is cute when she is angry) and she puts up with him talking to people who are not there.
All round they seem to have quite a good relationship.:dizzy:
I TOTALLY get this.
My sister suffers from severe depression and her partner has schizophrenia. He is often unmedicated and she is fine with his sometimes strange behaviour. I think she finds it easier being with someone who does not suffer from depression like she does. She cannot cope with other people being depressed so they seem to be a perfect match. He puts up with her down moods ( he thinks she is cute when she is angry) and she puts up with him talking to people who are not there.
All round they seem to have quite a good relationship.:dizzy:
I TOTALLY get this.
luckygem13
06-11-2007, 03:03 PM
I think this makes sense. My Dad is Bipolar, and my Mum has chronic unipolar depression. I am bipolar, and my current partner suffers from mild depression, previous partner before him severe depression, one before that mild depression. I also seem to have a lot of friends with different conditions; got friends with anxiety, ADD, and chronic unipolar depression. I really think it is because we understand each other more, my partner seems to know my moods better than I do - he knows when I'm heading into a mania before I do, it's really freaky! Especially because we are currently living 1000's of k's apart!
I also know when my husband is going into mania and it freaks him out.
I also know when my husband is going into mania and it freaks him out.
luckygem13
06-11-2007, 05:42 PM
You Know Luckygem13,
I never thought about it. My worst depression was my divorce 9 years ago. Then when my ex BP and was on pcp. He was scary and stalking me for a long time. He has been in and out of prison. I also has a cancer gyn and 6 operations in 6years. My childhood was good and my p's are still together after 43yrs. I know my Mom had depression after her hysterectomy at 29 and I just had a complete at 41. My brother and daughter are adhd. My doc told me I have situation depression and my gyn said my hormones also was a contribution to the depression. I really dont know the different BP like you said BP2. My son was never given a #. When my sons symtoms started he was suicidal,homicidal, in and out of psy hospitals. It took a long time to get his medscombo correct. I never experienced my sons symtoms.
One reason I dont feel different from my BP's in my life is I look at their hearts and yes sometimes it is hard when they are on their lows or means times so I back off. I hate especially my son labled as BP. Some people even in my family think you can catch it like the flu.
I am not sure what you mean about ignoring and where you live??? I would like you to elaborate so I understand. I think you mean alot of BP's live in same area? But my closest BP's are not in same area's or states and we are all in different fields. I am an accountant. Please tell me if I am getting what you mean. Now the ignoring, I never considered me having BP. Thanks for lol and let me know if I understood your post.
Thank You
Mslainie
I hate the BP label too. I do not want a BP husband and son (it's so hard when it's your kid, I get that) but what are ya gonna do? I can't run away from it any more. I am selective who I tell and that's it. I'm so happy to have this board where people don't freak out about mental illness.
Regarding what my p doc said about where I live. It's a neighborhood of extreme wealth. Some of the larger homes are 35,000-45,000 square feet. I guess we have a lot of extreme personalities in here or eccentrics? I was really surprised she said it. I can't ignore what she said because there really is a lot of crazy stuff going on here....Desperate Housewives on steroids, LOL!
I never thought about it. My worst depression was my divorce 9 years ago. Then when my ex BP and was on pcp. He was scary and stalking me for a long time. He has been in and out of prison. I also has a cancer gyn and 6 operations in 6years. My childhood was good and my p's are still together after 43yrs. I know my Mom had depression after her hysterectomy at 29 and I just had a complete at 41. My brother and daughter are adhd. My doc told me I have situation depression and my gyn said my hormones also was a contribution to the depression. I really dont know the different BP like you said BP2. My son was never given a #. When my sons symtoms started he was suicidal,homicidal, in and out of psy hospitals. It took a long time to get his medscombo correct. I never experienced my sons symtoms.
One reason I dont feel different from my BP's in my life is I look at their hearts and yes sometimes it is hard when they are on their lows or means times so I back off. I hate especially my son labled as BP. Some people even in my family think you can catch it like the flu.
I am not sure what you mean about ignoring and where you live??? I would like you to elaborate so I understand. I think you mean alot of BP's live in same area? But my closest BP's are not in same area's or states and we are all in different fields. I am an accountant. Please tell me if I am getting what you mean. Now the ignoring, I never considered me having BP. Thanks for lol and let me know if I understood your post.
Thank You
Mslainie
I hate the BP label too. I do not want a BP husband and son (it's so hard when it's your kid, I get that) but what are ya gonna do? I can't run away from it any more. I am selective who I tell and that's it. I'm so happy to have this board where people don't freak out about mental illness.
Regarding what my p doc said about where I live. It's a neighborhood of extreme wealth. Some of the larger homes are 35,000-45,000 square feet. I guess we have a lot of extreme personalities in here or eccentrics? I was really surprised she said it. I can't ignore what she said because there really is a lot of crazy stuff going on here....Desperate Housewives on steroids, LOL!
marshmallow
06-11-2007, 11:08 PM
Lucky I dont think you have to have tons of money to be crazy.
emeraldeyes114
06-13-2007, 01:44 AM
That is a good question and I think a consideration of value. I know of the previous friends and current friends. It is funny how many of them were either depressed, bipolar (dx'd and not), or with a combo of the those two and other things. I know the depressed friends like the mania for the fact I seem so positive about stuff concerning them well that way for others even when down (yeap cept for Paris ;) sorry Lucky had to say it lol) Anyway I from time to time wondered what was behind that and never really came up with anything but birds of a feather flock together kind of sad but true nonetheless.
Eme
Eme
luckygem13
06-13-2007, 02:14 AM
Yeah but Eme if Paris came into your life, you would see her and know her as a real human with feelings and strengths and weaknesses and you would care about her.
Yes I have depression and am surrounded by bipolars. People have criticized a friend or two as being obnoxious...to me they are not obnoxious they are my salvation from the hell that is depression. Atleast bipolars get a freakin mania break...I get depression, depression, depression.....yet my bipolar friends like me...they tell me I'm lot's of fun (as long as I take my meds I guess) We are all here for a reason.
Yes I have depression and am surrounded by bipolars. People have criticized a friend or two as being obnoxious...to me they are not obnoxious they are my salvation from the hell that is depression. Atleast bipolars get a freakin mania break...I get depression, depression, depression.....yet my bipolar friends like me...they tell me I'm lot's of fun (as long as I take my meds I guess) We are all here for a reason.
MSLAINIE
06-13-2007, 03:44 AM
HEY LUCKEYGEM13 AND ALL,
I like your statement "We are all here for a reason".....Also I am very happy for this board too. I feel I can say what I am thinking and they is no judgement. Which makes all of you BP or Not Special to me.
TY
Mslainie
I like your statement "We are all here for a reason".....Also I am very happy for this board too. I feel I can say what I am thinking and they is no judgement. Which makes all of you BP or Not Special to me.
TY
Mslainie
emeraldeyes114
06-13-2007, 12:28 PM
Yeah but Eme if Paris came into your life, you would see her and know her as a real human with feelings and strengths and weaknesses and you would care about her.
Yes I have depression and am surrounded by bipolars. People have criticized a friend or two as being obnoxious...to me they are not obnoxious they are my salvation from the hell that is depression. Atleast bipolars get a freakin mania break...I get depression, depression, depression.....yet my bipolar friends like me...they tell me I'm lot's of fun (as long as I take my meds I guess) We are all here for a reason.
ok ok lol you have an excellant point that perhaps knowing someone and knowing of them are two different things. Perhaps it would be with her as well. I don't see it granted simply because we are two different lives. She is a party girl, society, go-go-go, and a people person. I on the other hand more sedate, country living, animals, and not into society stuff. I also very seldom talk to people outside the net even family fears I have no vocal chords anymore. lol And I would imagine we would find a common interest or two. I do like dogs so that might be one. But honestly I wouldn't expect much of a friendship on her part for many reasons and all understandable.
Ok that is the Paris thingy for the moment....Yeap i can actually speak and those that do hang from time to time do think I am fun and funny. Am I? I doubt being a standup comedian is in my future. It must be my anti-social regime I got going on...don't wanna break that habit. lol
Eme
Yes I have depression and am surrounded by bipolars. People have criticized a friend or two as being obnoxious...to me they are not obnoxious they are my salvation from the hell that is depression. Atleast bipolars get a freakin mania break...I get depression, depression, depression.....yet my bipolar friends like me...they tell me I'm lot's of fun (as long as I take my meds I guess) We are all here for a reason.
ok ok lol you have an excellant point that perhaps knowing someone and knowing of them are two different things. Perhaps it would be with her as well. I don't see it granted simply because we are two different lives. She is a party girl, society, go-go-go, and a people person. I on the other hand more sedate, country living, animals, and not into society stuff. I also very seldom talk to people outside the net even family fears I have no vocal chords anymore. lol And I would imagine we would find a common interest or two. I do like dogs so that might be one. But honestly I wouldn't expect much of a friendship on her part for many reasons and all understandable.
Ok that is the Paris thingy for the moment....Yeap i can actually speak and those that do hang from time to time do think I am fun and funny. Am I? I doubt being a standup comedian is in my future. It must be my anti-social regime I got going on...don't wanna break that habit. lol
Eme
luckygem13
06-13-2007, 07:47 PM
Hi Eme,
I like dogs too. They are very therapeutic, Man's best friend. I have to go to a hospital (for some not mental health problems) on a regular basis and I always make my appointments on Tuesdays & Thursdays when the therapy dogs are there. I just love them and love watching them interacting with the other patients, they give so much, without words. I have 2 parrots and 3 dogs. I love animals, more than people sometimes.
Luvya,
Luckgem
I like dogs too. They are very therapeutic, Man's best friend. I have to go to a hospital (for some not mental health problems) on a regular basis and I always make my appointments on Tuesdays & Thursdays when the therapy dogs are there. I just love them and love watching them interacting with the other patients, they give so much, without words. I have 2 parrots and 3 dogs. I love animals, more than people sometimes.
Luvya,
Luckgem