Yep, AF is definitely here. I am upset, disappointed, angry - you all know the drill.
Had to phone DH and ask him to pick up some tampons for me on his way home, you should have heard the disappointment in his voice.
I am convinced my tubes are blocked as all my blood tests were perfect this month.

Sorry for the downer but had to let you guys know.:mad:

Ruby

Ruby I am so sorry and so disappointed for you and DH. I really hoped for you this month, I wish there were something anyone could say to make it better but I know you have to just let yourself be p***ed off for a few days and then bounce back for another try.
Did you have your tubes looked at already? If not you should definitely get this done.

Sorry again hon xx

Kelx

Oh Ruby

I am so sorry . Had really hoped that this will be the month for you.......
Ruby how old is your youngest? If i remember correctly she is quite young is it possible for the tubes to get blocked in such a short period of time?
Give yourself a few days to get better than start thinking of the new cycle. I was surprised that you are just 28 (read it on the 2007/8 thread) You 'sound' so mature. I am sure you ll get that BFP soon.

Here if you need support.

HUGS

Amy

Thanks for your replies Kelly and Amy. I really am very upset this month, more so than normal. Two and a half years is such a long time and I am getting so fed up. I will never give up though.

Amy, DD is five and a half, DS is almost nine. The doctor says my tubes could be blocked from endo which has developed since having Sophie. I don't know what to think. All I know is that my first two children were conceived within a month and that I had two text book pregnancies. It sounds crazy but I really don't think I am supposed to have any more children.
I was having doubts about the publicly funded IVF but after tonight I know I will definitely go that route if I am not PG before my name comes up.

Anyway, I'm glad the two of you are doing well and it is lovely that you are so excited, I remember that feeling well. You are about to embark on a new phase of your lives and I know that you will love every minute of it. The one good thing about IF is that it gives us a much better appreciation of our children and we are better mummys for it!

Love Ruby

Oh Ruby i am sorry that you are feeling upset however it is reasonable after 2.5 years it must not be easy.

I was mistaken i thought DD was younger.Do you have any symptoms or endo......as far as i know this does not go symptomless.

Ruby you have to get that thought out of your mind....i know that it is not easy being positive after 2.5 years and we all get our bad days however you will get pregnant again. Ok it is taking longer than anticipated but i am sure your patience will be rewarded. You are moving forward......

Why were you having doubts about the IVf?

AMy

Just thought I'd quickly share something funny with you before I go to bed so that you know I am not completely losing the plot over here.

We found out through the insurance company that the guy who rammed my car on Friday night is called Barry David Brown. Sophie, my five year old daughter keeps saying to me "I hope they catch that brown berry mum!" The children always know how to put a smile back on my face!

Oh thats so sweet Ruby.

Re IVF i imagine it won t be an easy route and i really hope atht you will get pregnant before IVF. But if you don t i think it s an opportunity not to be missed. I am sure that all the ladis who have been through IVF will support you all the way through.
The fact that it is actually provided there makes you lucky and proves that you were meant to have another child.

Hold on Ruby.
Good night sending you big hugs

Amy

Hi Amy

I just posted my last reply for the night and saw your post. OK, this really is my last post!

The reason we suspect endo is because I have always had such painful periods, right from the time they first started at the age of twelve. I get a very sore lower back and terrible cramping in my belly, enough to make me feel nauseous. There is no way of knowing for sure if I have it without the lap.

The reason I was having doubts about IVF was because it just seems SO drastic. I know if it were my first baby I would do it in a heartbeat. I know in the bottom of my heart after this BFN that I will do it now. If the truth be told I think my good old fashioned catholic guilt was getting to me too but I know this is ridiculous and am trying to push the thought from my mind. God makes all babies whether they be conceived naturally or through IVF and if I have to take the IVF path then I know now that it is what God intended for me.

Ruby

I am so sorry Ruby. sending you hugs today. But OMG I am in exactly the same situation as you, that is already having children (conceived easily) and now having trouble conceiving again. My 3 kids were conceived within 2 - 4 months of trying and now we have been trying for 16 months, so I know how frustrating it is to know that we have done it before, why can't we do it again!

Also, I feel exactly the same as you about IVF, I feel like I should not even consider doing it because I have children already and worry about what others will say, I am having a real battle with this thought at the moment. But then I think, we want more children, why should we not use IVF to make our family bigger! Is it a bad thing to try ivf for a 4th child. I am struggling with this, but know that if iui doesn't work I want to try ivf.

Sorry to take over this post, but we do have similiarities and I can really feel your frustration, take care and keep going. Love to you.

Oh Ruby sweetie I am so sorry.I just dont know why god keeps such great women on hold.But I guess its not in our hands to question him.I really do pray that u get ur miracle real soon.I will keep praying for u.

Ur kids sound so wonderful I can imagine how they bring a smile to ur face.The good thing is u have those 2 to cheer u up.So keep ur head up and look into ur kids eyes so it reminds u why u are fighting so hard.Well take care sweetie and dont worry god has not forgotten u.

(((HUGS)))

Mapia

Oh Ruby, I'm so sorry AF showed and you are so disappointed about it. Some months are definitely harder than others. Hang in there. We will all be here to support you through the tough months and to celebrate when you get that bfp. :angel:

Holly

Ruby-
I'm so sorry your AF showed it ugly face. I'm sure it's been really hard on you. It's funny how some months it's not as hard to take, and others it just feels like the end of the world. I hope you are feeling a little more hopeful today. If you do end up doing IVF, there are many of us who have done it including myself. We will be here for you if you need us.

Carisa:angel:

Oh Ruby, I am so disappointed and sad for you. I can feel all the same emotions you must be experiencing right now... we've all been there and the BFN is so crushing. :( There are always months that are harder than others and it really sounds like this is a bad one for you. Wish I could reach through this computer and over the seas between us and give you a huge (((hug)))!

Two and a half yeard is a very long time... I remember after my 8th month of trying someone told me: oh don't worry you haven't been trying long.... I just wanted to scream: do you know how it feels to have such heartbreak 8 times in 8 months!?! :mad: And now that I'm past the two year mark I just have to keep my faith that my turn is coming. And I know that you too will soon have a little baby to add to your family. Hopefully it happens before IVF, but if not, your chances are still going to be very great once you get to that point. Take care, hun. (((hugs)))

Kari

Hi Ruby, I hear misery loves company so I'll join you on the bfp this month. :(

At least we can always come here and vent. Things would be much harder without a virtual shoulder to cry on.

Ruby, I am sorry I posted late on another thread. I want to cry with you, its such a bummer sometimes. Know we are all thinking about across the world :) and your BFP will come. Do something nice for yourself if you can. AimeeM

Hi Girls, thanks for all your posts.

Mariella
It really helps knowing that you and I are in the same situation though I wish you weren't.
You didn't take over my post at all, you were offering your care and support which means a lot to me.
I really hope you are blessed with your fourth baby soon. Good luck with your IUI today.

Mapia
Thanks for your love and support. I know I shouldn't question God but it is so hard not to sometimes. IF has been a true test of faith for me and sometimes I do find myself doubting.
I'm so blessed to have my two kids though and I thank God for them every day. They really do make the BFN's easier to deal with so I know I am lucky.

Holly
Thanks for showing your constant support through these tough months, especially when you are suffering so much yourself at the moment. Your friendship means a lot.

Carisa
I'm not sure why some months are harder to cope with than others. I think it is because sometimes I just know that I am not pregnant or that I haven't had enough sex but this month I let myself get carried away with possible signs and symptoms and thought that simply because my progesterone test came back so high that I would finally get a miracle. I know I shouldn't let myself get my hopes up but it is so hard not to sometimes.
Thanks for saying you will be there for me if I do embark on IVF. It would definitely help to have friends such as yourself to help and guide me through.

Kari
Two and a half years is a long time and I know how hard it has been for you too. I hope to get PG before IVF but if not I am blessed to have that option and will embark on it whole heartedly. Thanks for taking the time as always to send me a post, it means so much to me.

Nicki
It's great to have your company but I do wish you had gotten a BFP. You are right, it is easier having a virtual shoulder to cry on though I don't think of you guys as virtual. I think a big part of friendship is communication and we certainly do a lot of that on here so I consider all of your friendships to be very real!

Aimee
Thanks for your concern. I read your post on the other thread and it means so much to me that you took the time to write it.

Love to you all!

Ruby

hi

Really sorry to hear that Ruby. I hope that things look brighter as the week passes. I had my Egg Pick-up today so am feeling sore and hoping that things will be good to do a transfer on Thrusday. We ended up with 11 eggs. Probably not what you wanted to right now but each time we go through this, there is another chance, another ray of hope.

Good luck and just have lots of cuddles and do something nice for yourself.

Best wishes

Pauline

Ruby it is natural that we all question god from time to time.As long as we keep our faith in him I know he will reward us.So keep ur head up sweetie god never forgets the good people.Just wanted to ck on u and see how u were doing?I hope u are feeling a little better.Just know u are in my thoughts and prayers.

(((HUGS)))

Mapia

Hi Pauline
Thanks, I'm already starting to feel better and am starting to pick up my resolve to try again.
11 eggs sounds great and I am happy for you! I hope your transfer goes well on Thursday, I will be thinking of you and sending loads of baby dust your way.


Hi Mapia
Promise me you will get your broadband connected as soon as you move - how will we all cope without you otherwise?
Thanks for checking on me, I am okay, definitely feeling better anyway. I appreciate you keeping me in your thoughts and I do need prayer at the moment so thankyou, you are a real love!

Ruby

Oh sweetie, I'm so sorry. I'm praying for you, and it's okay, God understand. We may not think the He does, but don't lose faith, He will never forget about you, and he will bless us with little babies. Stay strong love, we're all here for you and praying for you. ****BABY DUST****

Hi Ruby,
So sorry to hear you're having a rough time. Each disappointment seems to bring a new resolve though.. Now you know you'll go ahead with ivf if it comes to that (and here's hoping/ praying that it won't), and that's a positive thing. If you're worried about your tubes being blocked, you should be able to get the HSG scan, where they insert a catheter filled with dye, and can see the tubes if they are clear. At least that would let you know either way, and you can never really have too much information.
Hope you feel better soon,
Lizzie

Hi Ruby. I just wanted to offer you some sympathy for your situation right now. I understand what you are going through, as I am going through secondary IF too. It is hard, I know! I just had a lap done in May, as my RE suspected endo that developed about the birth of my first child. I was completely clean, but having a lap done is not a bad idea, given your situation. It is very easy to recover from and being put to sleep for it isn't all that bad.

Just make a plan and start living it out. It will make you feel much better. After my lap came back all clear, DH and I made a plan and we are going to stick to it until we get our BFP and our healthy baby. It made me feel like I was going to get there instead of wondering each month what we would do if it didn't happen this month. That may not make sense...

Good luck to you!!

Anna Leigh

Ruby

how are you feeling? Hope you are slightly batter.

I understand what you mean re being religious.This is what i think.
IF is a medical condition and like any other medical problem should be treated.
I don t know much about religions locally we have just one....Roman Catholic.....so you re either a practising or a non practising Catholic.
I believe that whatever religion we follow we were created to be happy....and it s just normal that we strive to achieve the things that make us Happy. And i think that good will not punish us for that as long as our intentions are good of course.

I also believe that if something was not meant to happen it won t happen........the important thing is to try so that there will be no regrets in the future.
Sometimes we don t understand why things happen and we ask ourselves why bad things happen to us. Sometimes later on in life we get an answer.

here if you need to vent ........praying for you.

Hugs

Amy

Hi Princess
Thanks for praying for me, I think it's working because I am already feeling much better! I can't wait till the day that our hope and perseverance pays off and we are blessed with healthy babies.
Your kindness means so much to me - thank you.

Lizzie
Thanks for the advice. My RE said he would rather do a lap than an HSG as that way he can thoroughly flush me out if there is a blockage. Seeing as how we can't affoard the lap just now though I am thinking that an HSG might be the way to go. If there is a blockage then at least we will know and I won't get my hopes up every month and if there is no blockage then it might be enough to flush my tubes out and make me fertile again. I will ask my RE about it next time I see him.
How are you? I hope all is well.

Anna Leigh
Thanks for sympathising with me though I do wish you weren't going through this too. I'd love to have a lap like you suggested but money is tight so like I said to Lizzie I may just have to settle for the HSG for now.
I love your idea about making a plan and I am going to do it today. I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier, thanks for suggesting it!

Amy
I am feeling better today but then I have a lot of peole praying for me so it is to be expected.
RE religion. I am a practicing Catholic and my faith is extremely important to me. I think that is why I take the BFN's so hard sometimes. I pray so hard for a baby and ask God every day and I take it personally when He doesn't answer my prayers as quickly as I would like. I know how crazy that sounds but I can't help it.
I know God won't punish me, at this point I am more worried that He won't bless me with another baby.
Thanks for your prayers and for letting me vent, you are a Godsend!

Ruby

Ruby

I am glad that you are feeling slightly better.
Rest assured that God will bless you with another miracle when he thinks is best .....it is not for us to understand. I know that does not make it any easier......
when is your next appt? Is it then that you are going to discuss lap or hsg?

Hold on Ruby.........i am praying for you.......

AMy

Hi Ruby,
I'm so glad you're feeling better! :angel: I can't wait until we all have our little bundles of joy in our arms and we can all look back at our perserverance, trials and tribulations and our victories. I hope that day will come soon, but unitl then you and all the other ladies on the board, lurkers and non are in my thoughts and prayers! *****BABY DUST*****

Ruby,


Im so sorry to hear you have had the pain of another bfn!
Its heartbreaking but just when you hit rock bottom and you dont think you will be able to go through it all again your desire kicks back in because just when you think theres no worse feeling than that dissipointment you get a taste of how it would feel never to be that close to being a mum.

You will get your bfp i have everything crossed for your next cycle.

xx

Thanks Amy
I will make my next appointment for in a couple of weeks. I need a bit of time first to clear my head and make out my IF plan like Anna Leigh suggested.

Hi Princess
It is so lovely having you here on the board. You are so caring and poitive and I really appreciate your support - thank you!

Hi Jam
Thanks for your support too! I really appreciate you taking the time to send me a post. I am lucky because I already have two children but I am desperate for a third and I find the BFN's very difficult. I hope that everyone here has success soon - we all deserve it so much!

Ruby

Hey Ruby, I'm glad to hear that you are feeling a little bit better and your resolve to try again is back in place. It's amazing how difficult TTC can be for some of us, and I think we are all very strong for taking on this challenge... your determination really says so much for your character and spirit. If you do decide to proceed with the HSG, I hope it finds everything all clear and then maybe you won't need to do the lap.?. Please let us know when you make your appt and we'll be here to help you through whatever the next step will be. :angel:

Thank you Kari

I am hoping for the same thing with regards to the HSG and lap. That was kind of what I was thinking before I saw my RE last time and then he completely changed my mind by encouraging me to do the lap. The HSG is only about $500 so I'm going to go for it!
I was reading on another thread that you were thinking it would be nice to adopt a little girl from China. I think that would be wonderful. No matter how you get your children you are going to make a fabulous mum.

I forgot to mention in my last post that I am starting on the clomid again today. 100mg from days 3-7.

Ruby

Nicki
It's great to have your company but I do wish you had gotten a BFP. You are right, it is easier having a virtual shoulder to cry on though I don't think of you guys as virtual. I think a big part of friendship is communication and we certainly do a lot of that on here so I consider all of your friendships to be very real! Ruby

Heh! Can you tell I was a little out of it right after the Bfn? :p (Sorry, Freudian slip) But that only means our bfp is right around the corner! Am I right????

We'll keep our spirits up until it happens. ;)

Nicky

How are you doing? ARe you back home yet?

Ruby...just wanted to wish you all the best of luck with clomid. I think this is the 2nd month right? Most of the peolpe i know who used clomid required more than one cycle for this to work.
I thnk it s a good idea to have a plan to....but i really hope that you get your bfp this next cycle.


Amy

Hey Ruby doll, I'm checking in..how are you doing?

Hey Ruby, that was so sweet of you to say I'll be a fabulous mum... can't wait for that day I can prove you right! :angel: Glad to hear you have decided to go with the HSG! Maybe just washing the dye through your tubes will be something that you needed and you'll get pregnant straight away! Better yet, maybe this clomid cycle will work for you even before the HSG! Well good luck hun, and I'm praying for you!:angel:

Hey Ruby sorry I dident see the post I promise I will ck in on u guys from greece.As soon as I get my won connection I will be on more frequent.I am glad u will be able to do the HSG see god always provides.U are always in my thoughts and prayers sweetie.Take care.

Mapia

Hi Nicki
How are you? I hope your feeling better after your BFN. You are right, we will keep our spirits up (or at least try to) until it happens.

Amy
Thanks for the well wishes. My body seems to respond so well to the clomid (I was on it for three months last year too) but still no pregnancy so we will see. I just have this sixth sense that the spermies aren't getting to the egg. I guess an HSG will tell us the answer.

Princess
I'm good thanks sweetie, thanks for asking!

Kari
I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true! I think we can learn a lot about each other through these boards and I know you are a genuinely loving caring person - great mother material!
I hope the HSG is enough to flush out any blockaging too but if not at least it is a step in the right direction.

Mapia
I'm glad you plan on getting hooked up quickly after your move. I'd miss you otherwise!!!
Once again, thanks for keeping me in your prayers, I think they're working.

Love to you all.

Ruby

Ruby I could never leave my girls for to long.I would just die wondering how u all are doing.I really hope my prayers are working for u and cant wait to see that BFP.Have a good day sweetie.

Mapia

I'm so glad you're doing okay! I can't wait to see my prayers come true for you and all the ladies on the board!! BFPs all around IF sisters!!!
And yah ,Mapia, don't forget to get hooked up asap (I use this right? asap?) when you move! We will miss you!!

Ruby

How are you doing? Did you have any reply re the accident yet?

I feel so bad knowing you would like to do an HSG........i work in a Radiology dept and would love to arrange to get it done for you....i really wish i could help .....i know i can t so i am just doing what i can by praying for you........

Amy

Hi Ruby sweetie havent heard from u hope u are well.I have been thinking of u.Well drop us a note when u can.

Mapia

Just make a plan and start living it out. It will make you feel much better. After my lap came back all clear, DH and I made a plan and we are going to stick to it until we get our BFP and our healthy baby. It made me feel like I was going to get there instead of wondering each month what we would do if it didn't happen this month. That may not make sense...

Anna Leigh

Hi Anna Leigh, I'm very curious about your "plan" and would love to know more about what you & DH decided to do. I'm very interested.
-Just Dance

Hi Mapia, Amy and Princess

You guys are the best! It really means a lot to turn on the computer and see messages from you girls - thank you.

I am fine. I'm still very disappointed about my BFN but as you all know it just takes a bit of time to start feeling better again. I am sure it will happen for me eventually, I just wish it would be sooner rather than later.

Mapia, I'm glad your sunburn is feeling better now. It is scary how strong the sun can actually be. I remember one year when I got bad sunburn on my back and it blistered and wept. I have learnt my lesson and tend to wear sunscreen now. I have a little bit of lebanese in me which is usually enough to stop me from burning but these days the sun seems to be hotter than ever! Take care of yourself and be sure to cover up next time!

Amy, I'm glad things are going well with you. It sounds like you have a lovely strong little baby in there and I have a feeling that your pregnancy is going to be just great.
Regarding the car accident, we found out the guy who did it is a real bad egg and so regrettably we have let the whole thing go. DH and I just didn't want to get on the wrong side of a nutter like him for the sake of a dented bumper and some scratched paint.
Thanks for thinking of me, it means so much.

Love to you all as always!

Ruby

Hi Ruby,

Just checking in and seeing how you were.

Way to get back up and keep trying...here's to hoping Clomid does the trick for you this time. Sending hope and prayers your way!

Never give up! Each cycle is another chance. We will be praying this is it for you!

Laurie:D

Thank you so much for your post Laurie, it means a lot to me.

I am certain the clomid is already working this month as I am feeling extremely irritable and easily annoyed today, a bit like bad pre menstrual tension. I have found the moodiness is one of the only down sides to taking clomid.

How are you? You must be feeling super excited about this cycle. It sounds like things are really falling into place for you this time. You can be sure of my prayers and best wishes!

Take care Laurie!

Ruby

Hi Ruby glad u are a bit better.Time is the only medicine so u just take it one day at a time sweetie.Sorry to hear about the guy who hit u.But u are right it isent worth getting involved with a nut case.I guess there are some people who are crazier then us IF women.........lol.Today I had a little crazy moment took aunt to the airport to go back to greece and they were asking for an extra $100 for 4 extra pounds.I was outraged started yelling at the lady checking her in.Then she said u know I dont need to wait on rude customers and walked away and refused to wait on us.I lost it I pushed the one suitcase on the scale and knocked it over behind their desk........hahaha.Now that I think about it I laugh wow I am nuts got AF today so a little hormaonal plus I saw at least 10 pregnant women at the airport so wasent in the best mood.But the outcome was the manager came to talk to us and guess what we dident have to pay the $100.:D I guess I should have warned the employee I am greek and going through IF...........lol.The funny thing is I am a very calm and quiet person so my aunt,mother and DH couldent believe my reaction they thought I lost it.Anyway the point is we saved $100 so it was worth it..............lol.Anyway funny story thought it might make u all laugh cause I am still laughing about it.I cant believe my reaction.But u know what makes me mad is u pay so much money to fly and then they say oh $100 for a few extra pounds thats crazy.If u pay u can have extra pounds but if u dont u cant.Some things just gets my blood boiling.When the other suitcase was a few pounds less it evens out I mean think about it u are still in the weight range.Ok enough of my venting.Now u all know I have a crazy side.........lol.Well anyway had to share the story with my girls.Well sweetie hope this month brings u luck.I am praying for u.Take care.

(((HUGS)))

Mapia

Mapia that is too funny!!! I am cracking up over here! I can just picture you getting into a rage and knocking the suitcase over, hahaha!!!

Thanks for the laugh, you are a real comedian, very funny.

I'm glad that your Aunt got away safely and didn't have to pay the extra $100. Won't be long now until you are safely back in Greece with her - yay!!!

Take care sweetie and look forward to catching up tomorrow.

Ruby

Hi Ruby,
Haven't been on in a while (suffering withdrawal symptoms!). I'm ok thanks, just in no-mans land since my IUI went wrong last time & had to be abandoned. Waiting for AF so I can start another, but no idea when that will happen now. Anyway, you sound a bit better now, hang in there. Glad you're going for the HSG - I hope it brings good news, but if not - at least you'll have some answers and can find a way forward from there.
Sorry about the accident, but I think you're right to avoid any extra stress at the moment. Take care x

Mapia - you made me laugh. I can so relate to your story! I guess our anger needs to be vented sometimes!

Hey Ruby I knew my story might make u all laugh just hope u guys dont think I am a mad women.......lol.So have u scheduled ur HSG?I hope so I cant wait for u to at least get some answers.Hope u are doing better sweetie.

Hi Lizzie glad I could make u all laugh it really was funny even though the lady who I yelled at dident think it was funny.The funny thing is when I knocked the suitcase over she was like what is wrong with u u could have hurt someone walking behind the counter.I said I was trying to hurt someone...........lol.I was so mad my mom kept trying to calm me down but I just kept making comments and kept trying to make them understand my point.Anyway well how are u doing?Sorry u havent been in much of a mood.I know how upsetting it is when ur get a BFN.Keep ur head up though and keep fighting.

Mapia

Mapia - I can just picture you losing it at the airport! Still chuckling to myself about it. Thanks for sharing it and adding a comedic slant! It must be so exciting to think you're going in just a few weeks. New start. I love Greece - I'm jealous!

So have u ever been to greece?It really is beautiful but u are close just hop on a plane and go.Its what a 3 hour ride from the UK?It was pretty funny I wish I got it on camera.......lol.

Mapia

I've been to Kephalonia when I was a kid, and in 2003 I spent 5 weeks on Pelopponesos & Athens on a turtle project. Greece has the best smelling air (like thyme & honey) I just love it. I know, it's not far from the UK really and easyjet have cheap flights. Too broke at the moment though - I have quit my job (hooray!), so no holidays for me for a while. I'm taking 6 weeks out to relax as I am a haggard old wreck at the moment. Just send some Greek sunshine this way, the weather is so rubbish here!

Hi Lizzie
Yes, I am feeling better now, thanks. I hope you are okay. I know it must be difficult feeling like you are in no mans land and waiting for AF. I hope she arrives soon so you can start again.


Hi Mapia
I haven't scheduled the HSG yet - you know what I'm like, always procrastinating. I think I will see this cycle out since I did the clomid on days 3-7 and when AF arrives next month then I will make the appointment with my RE to discuss it.
I told DH about your airport story and he laughed too. I can assure you that you are not mad and I can relate to your frustration, especially after seeing all those pregnant women!

Take care girls!

Ruby

Hi Lizzie wow so u have been to greece.It really is a great country I tell people greece is like a drug once u had a smell of it u are hooked......lol.Well I hope u can go some day soon.I havent been to Kefalonia but I want to go I hear its a gorgeous island.But then again greece has so many gorgeous islands its hard to deceide where to go.

Ruby I wish u luck this month with the clomid.This just might be the trick sweetie.I will be praying for u.Glad u and DH got a laugh out of my story.;)

Mapia

Ruby

I am sorry re the accident....but i am sure you are doing the right thing. It does make you angry though doesn t it?

I suppose you are close to ovulation now........how are you doing?
Thank you for saying my little one s gonna be ok...i am really hoping .......but it snice reading it. I have my 1st us on Sat...maybe things will seem more real then and i can relax more.

I am glad that you have a plan but i am really hoping that this will be the month for you.

Hold on.

Amy

Hi Amy

I am angry about the accident but my fear for this creep out weighs my anger. I just want to put it all behind me now. We are due to upgrade our car soon anyway and I can put up with driving around with a dented bumper in the mean time.

I am on day 10 today so I guess I will be ovulating some time in the next four to eight days - time to get busy again!!!

I can't wait to hear how your u/s goes, you must be feeling excited about it. I can understand you being cautiously optimistic but with such great numbers I am sure everything will be fine.

Hope you're feeling okay and not too tired, I remember feeling overwhelmed with tiredness in the first trimester. Be sure to get plenty of rest.

Take care hun.

Ruby

Ruby

I am only 5 weeks along and exhausted....i am getting some extra sleep but it seems like after about 3 hrs awake i need too sleep again. I was wondering if this is normal or if it s a side effect of my pleasant heparin shots.

I understand what you mean re the car....it s just not worth it.

hope you and DH are getting down to buisiness........make sure you don t stop BD too early. i think it s something that DH and i used to do sometimes.

I ll keep you posted re the us...i ll also get to have my 2nd antenatal visit that same day.

Take care

AMy

I remember with my DD, I was tired esp. around 3:00pm. I could get up early and do things as normal but by 3:00pm I'd was falling asleep at my desk...not good when you are the CEO!!! I was also sick at 3:00. Decided that I might as well work from 6:00am to 3:00pm and call it a day. That work for me. It got easier after the first three months...or I got use to it.

Good luck Amy, get use to the lack of sleep and being tired.......it doesn't get any better. can't wait to get that feeling again.

Pauline

I just wanted to say that Ruby, I hope you are feeling much better! You must keep us updated, okay, cherie?

Amy, awww, so sorry you're tired, but it's so good!! I mean...well you know what I mean, right?

Praying for you!!

****BABY DUST**** and healthy nine months!! :blob_fire

Ruby, I just wanted to say I'm so happy you got to go right into a new cycle, and I really pray this one is your lucky one. Enjoy BD'ing - don't give DH any time to rest! ;)

Amy, just like Princess said, I'm so happy to hear you are very tired, because that is good sign!! :) You can't know how happy I am for you that things are looking so good!!! Can't wait to hear how your first scan goes...

Holly

Hi Amy

The tiredness is perfectly normal though I dare say the heparin shots are adding to it. So much is happening inside you right now it is only to be expected. Your baby is probably draining a lot of your energy from you while it is forming but by twelve weeks the baby is nearly fully formed and will spend the next six months just growing so you should feel a bit more energised then.
Thanks for the advice about not stopping the BDing too early. I think DH and I do sometimes as we just get worn out - haha! We will do it every other day this month since it worked for you. I really don't think it is necessary to do it every day.

Princess
Thanks for your support! How was your weekend away? I hope you had a good break.

Holly
I am lucky to be getting straight into a new cycle aren't I? I hadn't thought of it before. My RE is very pro-active and if I could afford to see him more often then things would be progressing a lot more quickly. I think at this stage he is quite happy for me to remain on the clomid while I continue to procrastinate about the HSG and lap.
How are you doing today? Hope the spotting has stopped now. I have been thinking about you and hoping that it hasn't gotten heavier again. I will go and read some more threads and catch up on the latest news.

Love to everyone!

Ruby

Ok looks like it s completely normal to feel this tired than........that kind of helps.

Ruby

The same used to happen to us...i used tomoan for the every day thing and by the 3rd day DH used to be worn out. Ok he would kii me for writing this...man s pride. So we went for every other day and BD for a longer period this cycle. In fact i oed 2 days later and would have probably missed it if we hadn t done so.
I am trying to get some house work done before going to work.
Suppose it s evening there so good night.

Amy

Hey Ruby, thanks for asking about me. I wrote to you in another post about the spotting. It hasn't stopped yet, but it has slowed down again. I'm glad you have such a proactive RE. It helps when they want you to get pg as much as you want to be pg. My RE is like that too, and I feel so lucky to be seeing him! Hope you and Dh are having fun BD'ing!!!!! This could be your month! :bouncing: :bouncing:

Holly

Hi Holly

I don't know about the BDing being fun - I am kinda over it now! DH worked last night and tonight so will have to start getting serious tomorrow night, I hope we haven't left it too late.
I'm glad the spotting has lightened and hope that it stops soon, I have loooong periods so I know how frustrating it is to have it 'hanging around'.
It does make a big difference when you have an RE that really cares. My RE is a family man so he knows how important it is for me to have another baby. I'm glad you have a good RE too though I bet you are spoilt for choice in America. Anyway, I just hope they do what we are paying them to do and get us pregnant SOON!

Take care Holly!

Ruby

Salut Ruby!!
I'll be praying for you tomorrow night!! This could be your month, and I will pray that it is. Put your game face on!! ;) :p :D
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Hi Ruby sorry to hear DH has been working well tonight is the night must make up for it.Like Princess said put ur game face on.......lol.BTW as for us having so many RE's to choose from is not always the case u also have to think there are not many good RE's so u have to choose wisely.I dont know why people think that here in the US we have great doctors my opinion is totally different.When I went to the doctor for my sunburn the doctor was looking in his computer to see what kind of cream to give me.Can u believe that????????:dizzy: The thing here is doctors have the answers in front of them on a computer that they cant diagnose u without a computer.Now when I was in greece and went to a doctor he would feel where I was hurting look me over well if needed send me in for b/w and diagnose me no computers no nothing.Now those are true doctors.I am sorry if I offended anyone but thats just my opinion if I wanted to I could look online and dignose myself right??????But we go to the doctor to make sure thats what the problem is and nothing else more serious.Thats why they get paid the big bucks.Ok sorry to rant on like that but I have not been happy at all with the medical attention I got here.

So anyway have fun doing the dead RUby..................lol.Let us know how it goes.........lol.:)

Mapia

Oui, Mapia, it's so true!! When I was in the US with my aunt, I took her to doctor, and the doctor looked up what to use on the computer. Luckily my doctor at home doesn't do that, he touches, looks and examines. But I don't know about the obgyn I will be going to. I hope she dones't look the computer, becuase, in my uninformed opinion, that's something I could do. I don't want to offend, but that's my opinion, that I could easily look the internet to find what to do. Anyway, good luck Ruby!
***BABY DUST****

Thanks Princess and Mapia, I will be sure to put my game face on!!!

I should be joining the other ladies in the 2ww thread soon so that will be good. I am certain there will be no pregnancy for me until I have had some kind of intervention but I will continue to hope that by some miracle this will be the month for me.

Mapia, I miss you. Please do whatever you can to make the moderators change their minds. We need you and Holly here with us.

Ruby

Hey Ruby, I just want you to know that I am rooting for a miracle for you! It would be a great day for all of us if you got a surprise BFP before having any additional treatments! Have a fabulous weekend!

Thanks Kari, you're the best!

Hope you have a good weekend too now you have started healing and that next week brings you some peace and happiness.

Ruby

OK Ruby,
I just saw that AF came on the 24th so no more sorry, you are 2 days shy of O so go get that BDing done and give us the bfp in 2 weeks.

Lovely

Thank you Lovely.

You are right, I don't need any more sympathy but I honestly don't know how I would have gotten through my last BFN without all of the support these girls gave me. It's a bit like having balm rubbed into your wounds and because everybody else knows exactly how it feels nobody says anything silly or insensitive.
I'll do my best to produce a BFP this month but I'm not promising anything.........

How are you? Where did you go for your vacation? I'm so glad you're back, I missed you and wondered where you were.

Ruby

Oh Ruby promise girl I'll keep praying for you, we really need a lead on the bfp's. We went to New Orleans.

Lovely.

Ruby

Hope you are getting down to buisiness.......praying for a miracle BFP for you.....believe me miracles do happen sometimes. Happy weekend

Amy

Thanks Lovely and Amy, you're well wishes mean a lot to me!

Ruby