Phoenix
06-25-2007, 08:03 AM
Dear all,
I don't know if it is the seasonal change or what but I feel drained as of late.
I am wondering if it has anthing to do with the depression flaring up.
Has anyone else felt "out of sorts" as of late?
I am just trying to make sense of it all........
Thanks PTSD :rolleyes:
Take care
God Bless
FTM / Ryan (whatever you feel more comfortable with)
I don't know if it is the seasonal change or what but I feel drained as of late.
I am wondering if it has anthing to do with the depression flaring up.
Has anyone else felt "out of sorts" as of late?
I am just trying to make sense of it all........
Thanks PTSD :rolleyes:
Take care
God Bless
FTM / Ryan (whatever you feel more comfortable with)
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ICC
06-25-2007, 08:32 AM
Good morning Ryan,
it's probably a combo of all that's going on with you. I personally don't like the heat so the weather change is on my last nerve. Don't get me wrong I don't like slushy, ice cold weather either but it's bee really hot hear. i am usually off all summer and it's getting me down that I can't enjoy what I would normally enjoy. In your case I think it's just everything. A little depression starting creeping in my mind for the past couple of weeks because of all the unanswered questions I have with my shoulder, the pain and this big swelling I have right above my collar bone. I figure there' no point in it getting me too down, it is what it is.
Sometimes when the waters settle and we are left with ourselves it's somewhat depressing as we feel alone in our journey for recovery and survival. Do you think this is what's happening with you? You came out of the dark and all hit the fan.????
Always,
Grasshopper:)
it's probably a combo of all that's going on with you. I personally don't like the heat so the weather change is on my last nerve. Don't get me wrong I don't like slushy, ice cold weather either but it's bee really hot hear. i am usually off all summer and it's getting me down that I can't enjoy what I would normally enjoy. In your case I think it's just everything. A little depression starting creeping in my mind for the past couple of weeks because of all the unanswered questions I have with my shoulder, the pain and this big swelling I have right above my collar bone. I figure there' no point in it getting me too down, it is what it is.
Sometimes when the waters settle and we are left with ourselves it's somewhat depressing as we feel alone in our journey for recovery and survival. Do you think this is what's happening with you? You came out of the dark and all hit the fan.????
Always,
Grasshopper:)
Phoenix
06-25-2007, 10:16 AM
Dear Grasshopper:
I will return later, as I have an errand to run.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
I will return later, as I have an errand to run.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
Phoenix
06-25-2007, 12:16 PM
Good morning Ryan,
it's probably a combo of all that's going on with you. I personally don't like the heat so the weather change is on my last nerve. Don't get me wrong I don't like slushy, ice cold weather either but it's bee really hot hear. i am usually off all summer and it's getting me down that I can't enjoy what I would normally enjoy. In your case I think it's just everything. A little depression starting creeping in my mind for the past couple of weeks because of all the unanswered questions I have with my shoulder, the pain and this big swelling I have right above my collar bone. I figure there' no point in it getting me too down, it is what it is.
Sometimes when the waters settle and we are left with ourselves it's somewhat depressing as we feel alone in our journey for recovery and survival. Do you think this is what's happening with you? You came out of the dark and all hit the fan.????
Always,
Grasshopper:)
Dear Grasshopper:
You're probably right.
The temperature here fluctuates so much.
The next three days will be in the 90's and then the low 70's.
Depression rearing its' ugly head huh? We've got to get you off of this road.
Let me get this right: Your shoulder hurts like all get out and they said you may not achieved sufficient relief for up to 8 months or so?
Is the swelling directly over the site that was operated upon?
Did doc rule out the lymph nodes swelling?
Waters have settled and hitting the fan is pretty close to accurate.
I'm just tired and in pain; not a nice combination.
A quick joke:
Woman goes to the doctors office and says:
"Doc, I don't like this cane."
Doc says:
This cane of yours is top of the line, only a handful of people in the world have this particular one.
Woman replies: but it's so darn hard to peel ! :blob_fire
Alright.....i'm trying.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
it's probably a combo of all that's going on with you. I personally don't like the heat so the weather change is on my last nerve. Don't get me wrong I don't like slushy, ice cold weather either but it's bee really hot hear. i am usually off all summer and it's getting me down that I can't enjoy what I would normally enjoy. In your case I think it's just everything. A little depression starting creeping in my mind for the past couple of weeks because of all the unanswered questions I have with my shoulder, the pain and this big swelling I have right above my collar bone. I figure there' no point in it getting me too down, it is what it is.
Sometimes when the waters settle and we are left with ourselves it's somewhat depressing as we feel alone in our journey for recovery and survival. Do you think this is what's happening with you? You came out of the dark and all hit the fan.????
Always,
Grasshopper:)
Dear Grasshopper:
You're probably right.
The temperature here fluctuates so much.
The next three days will be in the 90's and then the low 70's.
Depression rearing its' ugly head huh? We've got to get you off of this road.
Let me get this right: Your shoulder hurts like all get out and they said you may not achieved sufficient relief for up to 8 months or so?
Is the swelling directly over the site that was operated upon?
Did doc rule out the lymph nodes swelling?
Waters have settled and hitting the fan is pretty close to accurate.
I'm just tired and in pain; not a nice combination.
A quick joke:
Woman goes to the doctors office and says:
"Doc, I don't like this cane."
Doc says:
This cane of yours is top of the line, only a handful of people in the world have this particular one.
Woman replies: but it's so darn hard to peel ! :blob_fire
Alright.....i'm trying.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
beka6
06-25-2007, 04:24 PM
Hi Ryan and ICC,
Sorry to hear that you both are feeling down- depression is such a pain in the you-know-what. It's camped at my door these days, too. I just want you guys to know that I love how you help each other. You're both feeling badly, but you encourage and help one another. I think it's great. Just wanted you both to know... :)
Beka
Sorry to hear that you both are feeling down- depression is such a pain in the you-know-what. It's camped at my door these days, too. I just want you guys to know that I love how you help each other. You're both feeling badly, but you encourage and help one another. I think it's great. Just wanted you both to know... :)
Beka
Phoenix
06-25-2007, 04:28 PM
Dear Beka:
Please help me to understand what is going on with you.
Anything that you care to mention that triggered the depression?
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
Please help me to understand what is going on with you.
Anything that you care to mention that triggered the depression?
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
beka6
06-25-2007, 04:48 PM
Hi Ryan,
I'm not even sure what is going on with me... maybe time for a med change? I'm not sure. Therapy is getting demanding... and frankly, there are things that I don't want to face. Also, just healing from two herniated lumbar discs - which threw me a bit, but are healing well.
Honestly, Ryan, I spin my wheels so fast making sure that things go smoothly for my family, that I have forgotten my own self. I'm not so sure who I am these days. I'm not so sure I've every really known myself - if that makes any sense. So, when you ask me what is going on with me, I can give you possibles, but nothing definite. Because, I don't even know myself.
Therapy is breaking me down and somewhere in the rubble, I have to find the pieces (and the energy) to rebuild. I will get there - just going through a slow-motion phase right now. Caffeine no longer seems to help speed things up - oh no!! :eek:
Holy cow - I'm a whiner! Sorry.... :)
Beka
I'm not even sure what is going on with me... maybe time for a med change? I'm not sure. Therapy is getting demanding... and frankly, there are things that I don't want to face. Also, just healing from two herniated lumbar discs - which threw me a bit, but are healing well.
Honestly, Ryan, I spin my wheels so fast making sure that things go smoothly for my family, that I have forgotten my own self. I'm not so sure who I am these days. I'm not so sure I've every really known myself - if that makes any sense. So, when you ask me what is going on with me, I can give you possibles, but nothing definite. Because, I don't even know myself.
Therapy is breaking me down and somewhere in the rubble, I have to find the pieces (and the energy) to rebuild. I will get there - just going through a slow-motion phase right now. Caffeine no longer seems to help speed things up - oh no!! :eek:
Holy cow - I'm a whiner! Sorry.... :)
Beka
Phoenix
06-25-2007, 07:43 PM
Hi Ryan,
I'm not even sure what is going on with me... maybe time for a med change? I'm not sure. Therapy is getting demanding... and frankly, there are things that I don't want to face. Also, just healing from two herniated lumbar discs - which threw me a bit, but are healing well.
Honestly, Ryan, I spin my wheels so fast making sure that things go smoothly for my family, that I have forgotten my own self. I'm not so sure who I am these days. I'm not so sure I've every really known myself - if that makes any sense. So, when you ask me what is going on with me, I can give you possibles, but nothing definite. Because, I don't even know myself.
Therapy is breaking me down and somewhere in the rubble, I have to find the pieces (and the energy) to rebuild. I will get there - just going through a slow-motion phase right now. Caffeine no longer seems to help speed things up - oh no!! :eek:
Holy cow - I'm a whiner! Sorry.... :)
Beka
Dear Beka :
Therapy getting demanding; i can relate but what specifically (if you feel up to sharing)?
The more I research, the more I realize that weather can be a contributing factor to many a mood change.
Two herniated discs? How bad are they?
Are epidurals an option to explore?
You need to be up front and honest with your therapist in order for you to reap the full benefits.
You'd be surprised how much a little information being tranferred can transform an entire situation.
Caffeine no longer helps?
Please discuss this with your doctor.
I wouldn't want you purchasing caffeine pills or overdoing Red Bull cans.......
I can see it now............
You begin posting and cannot seem to stop.
By the time you do, you have created a novel that would rival Tolstoy's War and Peace:) :jester: .
I can barely read a few paragraphs these days and I wouldn't want to get in contact with you a month later :D .
You know we are here and if this makes you a whiner in your eyes (even though we don't believe so) then whine on my dear, by all means.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
I'm not even sure what is going on with me... maybe time for a med change? I'm not sure. Therapy is getting demanding... and frankly, there are things that I don't want to face. Also, just healing from two herniated lumbar discs - which threw me a bit, but are healing well.
Honestly, Ryan, I spin my wheels so fast making sure that things go smoothly for my family, that I have forgotten my own self. I'm not so sure who I am these days. I'm not so sure I've every really known myself - if that makes any sense. So, when you ask me what is going on with me, I can give you possibles, but nothing definite. Because, I don't even know myself.
Therapy is breaking me down and somewhere in the rubble, I have to find the pieces (and the energy) to rebuild. I will get there - just going through a slow-motion phase right now. Caffeine no longer seems to help speed things up - oh no!! :eek:
Holy cow - I'm a whiner! Sorry.... :)
Beka
Dear Beka :
Therapy getting demanding; i can relate but what specifically (if you feel up to sharing)?
The more I research, the more I realize that weather can be a contributing factor to many a mood change.
Two herniated discs? How bad are they?
Are epidurals an option to explore?
You need to be up front and honest with your therapist in order for you to reap the full benefits.
You'd be surprised how much a little information being tranferred can transform an entire situation.
Caffeine no longer helps?
Please discuss this with your doctor.
I wouldn't want you purchasing caffeine pills or overdoing Red Bull cans.......
I can see it now............
You begin posting and cannot seem to stop.
By the time you do, you have created a novel that would rival Tolstoy's War and Peace:) :jester: .
I can barely read a few paragraphs these days and I wouldn't want to get in contact with you a month later :D .
You know we are here and if this makes you a whiner in your eyes (even though we don't believe so) then whine on my dear, by all means.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
Sannah
06-25-2007, 10:59 PM
Ryan, might it have anything to do with your journey in your mind recently about the issues with your father? I would think you would have to grieve that?
beka6
06-25-2007, 11:20 PM
Hi Ryan,
Okay - I seriously laughed so hard at your post! Yes, I have been known to write long posts while under the influence of caffeine! :D
I would like to talk to you more about therapy, etc.... BUT - this thread started with YOU feeling depressed. So, let's talk about that first, okay? :) By the way - I am sorry that I became so unbelievably self absorbed earlier with my post to you.
How can I help you? Are you tired and depressed because of the never ending pain that you endure? If so, you are definitely entitled to more than a few down days. Sannah asked about your father. I think I missed that - I'll have to go back and read more posts to understand what is going on there. :)
Take care of yourself!
Beka
Okay - I seriously laughed so hard at your post! Yes, I have been known to write long posts while under the influence of caffeine! :D
I would like to talk to you more about therapy, etc.... BUT - this thread started with YOU feeling depressed. So, let's talk about that first, okay? :) By the way - I am sorry that I became so unbelievably self absorbed earlier with my post to you.
How can I help you? Are you tired and depressed because of the never ending pain that you endure? If so, you are definitely entitled to more than a few down days. Sannah asked about your father. I think I missed that - I'll have to go back and read more posts to understand what is going on there. :)
Take care of yourself!
Beka
ICC
06-26-2007, 12:04 PM
Hi Beka and Ryan......Beka no need to fret about invaiding a post. we all do it and it's very beneficial at times especially when we're going through the same thing. I am with Ryan on this. Therapy knocks the wind out of you sometimes. Expecially when you start making headway. There are alot of things I never wanted to face but did at my own pace. Somethings my therapist thought were more important if they weren't bothering me at the time I told her so and we came back to it when I was ready. It's all so hard and overwelming at times.
Ryan....I have 3 appt. scheduled. PCP, Spine Specialist and Shoulder Surgeon all in that order between tomorrow and next Tuesday. Someone needs to answer me and tell me what's going on. The muscle under my arm that goes into the armpit is so tight my arm shakes when I try to stretch it. PT is killing me but the shoulder is healing well. SLowly, but well. The swelling is no where near the surgery sight. It's right on top of my collar bone that causes pain in my neck, collar bone and numerous other places. Since I have a bad neck I thought it best to see the spine specialist too. It hurts more than my shoulder does. Am seeing the PC because I need something for pain. 750 mg of vicodin doesn't even put a dent in it and I need at least some relief at night. this has been 24/7 for almost 9 weeks and knocking me out now. I can't take much more of it. I am med sensitive and have LPR so prescribing is not easy with me. I would rather leave it in his hands. Are you feeling any better emotionally? I think maybe the talk we had brought up alot of issues that are making you feel down. I remembe rwhen I starting to part the waters I would get a little depressed for a couple of weeks every time I had to let go of something. It feels like you're grief stricken. Even though we're ridding ourselves of bad it's still a goodby, an ending and it's scary sometimes when we focua on something and then all of a sudden comes to terms with it and it doesn't matter anymore. I can't typ emuch as it's tightening my neck and arm up but will be back later.
Love to all,
Grasshopper
Ryan....I have 3 appt. scheduled. PCP, Spine Specialist and Shoulder Surgeon all in that order between tomorrow and next Tuesday. Someone needs to answer me and tell me what's going on. The muscle under my arm that goes into the armpit is so tight my arm shakes when I try to stretch it. PT is killing me but the shoulder is healing well. SLowly, but well. The swelling is no where near the surgery sight. It's right on top of my collar bone that causes pain in my neck, collar bone and numerous other places. Since I have a bad neck I thought it best to see the spine specialist too. It hurts more than my shoulder does. Am seeing the PC because I need something for pain. 750 mg of vicodin doesn't even put a dent in it and I need at least some relief at night. this has been 24/7 for almost 9 weeks and knocking me out now. I can't take much more of it. I am med sensitive and have LPR so prescribing is not easy with me. I would rather leave it in his hands. Are you feeling any better emotionally? I think maybe the talk we had brought up alot of issues that are making you feel down. I remembe rwhen I starting to part the waters I would get a little depressed for a couple of weeks every time I had to let go of something. It feels like you're grief stricken. Even though we're ridding ourselves of bad it's still a goodby, an ending and it's scary sometimes when we focua on something and then all of a sudden comes to terms with it and it doesn't matter anymore. I can't typ emuch as it's tightening my neck and arm up but will be back later.
Love to all,
Grasshopper
Phoenix
06-26-2007, 12:32 PM
Hi Ryan,
Okay - I seriously laughed so hard at your post! Yes, I have been known to write long posts while under the influence of caffeine! :D
I would like to talk to you more about therapy, etc.... BUT - this thread started with YOU feeling depressed. So, let's talk about that first, okay? :) By the way - I am sorry that I became so unbelievably self absorbed earlier with my post to you.
How can I help you? Are you tired and depressed because of the never ending pain that you endure? If so, you are definitely entitled to more than a few down days. Sannah asked about your father. I think I missed that - I'll have to go back and read more posts to understand what is going on there. :)
Take care of yourself!
Beka
Dear Beka:
I am glad that you saw the humor in my post.
This weather and pain just gets me more depressed.
I used to play tennis and go on powerwalks and to amusement parks with my daughter and now she has to do this with others.
It's like they stole two years of my life, so to speak.
Then there's the fact that on July 27, 2005, it will be two years since the accident and only four days past my birthday.
A post can be filled with questions..............
please continue about therapy.
My father is another story:dizzy: .
We'll talk.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
Okay - I seriously laughed so hard at your post! Yes, I have been known to write long posts while under the influence of caffeine! :D
I would like to talk to you more about therapy, etc.... BUT - this thread started with YOU feeling depressed. So, let's talk about that first, okay? :) By the way - I am sorry that I became so unbelievably self absorbed earlier with my post to you.
How can I help you? Are you tired and depressed because of the never ending pain that you endure? If so, you are definitely entitled to more than a few down days. Sannah asked about your father. I think I missed that - I'll have to go back and read more posts to understand what is going on there. :)
Take care of yourself!
Beka
Dear Beka:
I am glad that you saw the humor in my post.
This weather and pain just gets me more depressed.
I used to play tennis and go on powerwalks and to amusement parks with my daughter and now she has to do this with others.
It's like they stole two years of my life, so to speak.
Then there's the fact that on July 27, 2005, it will be two years since the accident and only four days past my birthday.
A post can be filled with questions..............
please continue about therapy.
My father is another story:dizzy: .
We'll talk.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
Phoenix
06-26-2007, 01:29 PM
Hi Beka and Ryan......Beka no need to fret about invaiding a post. we all do it and it's very beneficial at times especially when we're going through the same thing. I am with Ryan on this. Therapy knocks the wind out of you sometimes. Expecially when you start making headway. There are alot of things I never wanted to face but did at my own pace. Somethings my therapist thought were more important if they weren't bothering me at the time I told her so and we came back to it when I was ready. It's all so hard and overwelming at times.
Ryan....I have 3 appt. scheduled. PCP, Spine Specialist and Shoulder Surgeon all in that order between tomorrow and next Tuesday. Someone needs to answer me and tell me what's going on. The muscle under my arm that goes into the armpit is so tight my arm shakes when I try to stretch it. PT is killing me but the shoulder is healing well. SLowly, but well. The swelling is no where near the surgery sight. It's right on top of my collar bone that causes pain in my neck, collar bone and numerous other places. Since I have a bad neck I thought it best to see the spine specialist too. It hurts more than my shoulder does. Am seeing the PC because I need something for pain. 750 mg of vicodin doesn't even put a dent in it and I need at least some relief at night. this has been 24/7 for almost 9 weeks and knocking me out now. I can't take much more of it. I am med sensitive and have LPR so prescribing is not easy with me. I would rather leave it in his hands. Are you feeling any better emotionally? I think maybe the talk we had brought up alot of issues that are making you feel down. I remembe rwhen I starting to part the waters I would get a little depressed for a couple of weeks every time I had to let go of something. It feels like you're grief stricken. Even though we're ridding ourselves of bad it's still a goodby, an ending and it's scary sometimes when we focua on something and then all of a sudden comes to terms with it and it doesn't matter anymore. I can't typ emuch as it's tightening my neck and arm up but will be back later.
Love to all,
Grasshopper
Dear Grasshopper:
I fully understand the pain while typing.
My depression can be described as seasonal, as this is the season that the accident happened.
Those doctors better come clean or i'll have to put on my research goggles, with my unofficial Master's Degree from the School of Hard Knocks and get down to the bottom of this.:mad:
Answers will come Grasshopper......................
Remember all the crap that you previously went through and try to put things into perspective.
I know that it's easier said than done but I cannot stand to see my family down.
That being said:
Knock knock
Who's there?
Green light
Green light who?..................
and the vehicle runs him over :)
I tried.
Be good to yourself and ice, heat or a combination of both if you need.
I graduated from Vicodin to Percocet 7.5/325mg.
Makes my stomach sick.
Think cool thoughts and know that we are here for you.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
Ryan....I have 3 appt. scheduled. PCP, Spine Specialist and Shoulder Surgeon all in that order between tomorrow and next Tuesday. Someone needs to answer me and tell me what's going on. The muscle under my arm that goes into the armpit is so tight my arm shakes when I try to stretch it. PT is killing me but the shoulder is healing well. SLowly, but well. The swelling is no where near the surgery sight. It's right on top of my collar bone that causes pain in my neck, collar bone and numerous other places. Since I have a bad neck I thought it best to see the spine specialist too. It hurts more than my shoulder does. Am seeing the PC because I need something for pain. 750 mg of vicodin doesn't even put a dent in it and I need at least some relief at night. this has been 24/7 for almost 9 weeks and knocking me out now. I can't take much more of it. I am med sensitive and have LPR so prescribing is not easy with me. I would rather leave it in his hands. Are you feeling any better emotionally? I think maybe the talk we had brought up alot of issues that are making you feel down. I remembe rwhen I starting to part the waters I would get a little depressed for a couple of weeks every time I had to let go of something. It feels like you're grief stricken. Even though we're ridding ourselves of bad it's still a goodby, an ending and it's scary sometimes when we focua on something and then all of a sudden comes to terms with it and it doesn't matter anymore. I can't typ emuch as it's tightening my neck and arm up but will be back later.
Love to all,
Grasshopper
Dear Grasshopper:
I fully understand the pain while typing.
My depression can be described as seasonal, as this is the season that the accident happened.
Those doctors better come clean or i'll have to put on my research goggles, with my unofficial Master's Degree from the School of Hard Knocks and get down to the bottom of this.:mad:
Answers will come Grasshopper......................
Remember all the crap that you previously went through and try to put things into perspective.
I know that it's easier said than done but I cannot stand to see my family down.
That being said:
Knock knock
Who's there?
Green light
Green light who?..................
and the vehicle runs him over :)
I tried.
Be good to yourself and ice, heat or a combination of both if you need.
I graduated from Vicodin to Percocet 7.5/325mg.
Makes my stomach sick.
Think cool thoughts and know that we are here for you.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
ICC
06-26-2007, 02:05 PM
Ok Ryan........Your wit has become more cynical than it was:jester: Love it!!!
I understand the seasonal end of it now. I also was injured in the spring so here it is a little over a year later and you're working on two years. Sucks doesn't it? I know I'll make it through this as well as I've made it through so many other hurdles. You will too. I started with percocet that also did nothing for me. I don't know what the problem is but pain killers have no effect on me,. I have been told that fibro people have this problem so that's my guess. Toradol is a combo of anti-inflammatory and pain killer. That's the only one that worked but it causes stomach bleeds. Since I have LPR I can't risk it. It tore my stomach up for about 6 weeks after the surgery. Will be happy when I get some answers about what this swelling is over my collar bone. Has nothing to do with the shoulder surgery. Feel better my friend and know that you are not alone in the fight for feeling better physically, mentally and legally.
:confused: Grasshopper
Ryan, if you can would you speculate on why you feel this swelling could be glands, why they wouldbe so swollen for so long and maybe how to get them down.:)
I understand the seasonal end of it now. I also was injured in the spring so here it is a little over a year later and you're working on two years. Sucks doesn't it? I know I'll make it through this as well as I've made it through so many other hurdles. You will too. I started with percocet that also did nothing for me. I don't know what the problem is but pain killers have no effect on me,. I have been told that fibro people have this problem so that's my guess. Toradol is a combo of anti-inflammatory and pain killer. That's the only one that worked but it causes stomach bleeds. Since I have LPR I can't risk it. It tore my stomach up for about 6 weeks after the surgery. Will be happy when I get some answers about what this swelling is over my collar bone. Has nothing to do with the shoulder surgery. Feel better my friend and know that you are not alone in the fight for feeling better physically, mentally and legally.
:confused: Grasshopper
Ryan, if you can would you speculate on why you feel this swelling could be glands, why they wouldbe so swollen for so long and maybe how to get them down.:)
Phoenix
06-26-2007, 03:05 PM
Dear Grasshopper:
You wrote:
"Ryan, if you can would you speculate on why you feel this swelling could be glands, why they wouldbe so swollen for so long and maybe how to get them down."
I'll do my best.
Now the reason I stated lymph nodes is because they commonly swell in the neck, underlying chin, in your armpits or in your groin area.
I conducted a process of elimination.
Then I looked at the underlying factors for inflammation, which include infection, autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and also benign tumors or cancer.
I ruled out a few possibilities based on the sudden onset after surgery and PT.
Treatment depends upon the actual cause of the lymhadenitis but has been known to be treated(mild cases) by pain relievers and warm compress.
Tricyclic antidepressants like amitriptyline have shown success, as studies show thatlow doses of antidepressants can not only decrease the depression but relax craniofacial and skeletal muscles, which in turn improve sleep quality and release pain-killing endorphins.
Gabapentin is an anti-inflammatory which works on pain transmission pathways and has also showed moderate success..............
but what do I know? :) ;)
I hope that this helps a bit.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
You wrote:
"Ryan, if you can would you speculate on why you feel this swelling could be glands, why they wouldbe so swollen for so long and maybe how to get them down."
I'll do my best.
Now the reason I stated lymph nodes is because they commonly swell in the neck, underlying chin, in your armpits or in your groin area.
I conducted a process of elimination.
Then I looked at the underlying factors for inflammation, which include infection, autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and also benign tumors or cancer.
I ruled out a few possibilities based on the sudden onset after surgery and PT.
Treatment depends upon the actual cause of the lymhadenitis but has been known to be treated(mild cases) by pain relievers and warm compress.
Tricyclic antidepressants like amitriptyline have shown success, as studies show thatlow doses of antidepressants can not only decrease the depression but relax craniofacial and skeletal muscles, which in turn improve sleep quality and release pain-killing endorphins.
Gabapentin is an anti-inflammatory which works on pain transmission pathways and has also showed moderate success..............
but what do I know? :) ;)
I hope that this helps a bit.
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
ICC
06-26-2007, 04:51 PM
Ryan....You're the best!!!:D Going to try the warm compresses. have taken elavil before and loved it, I know it interacts with my BP meds but so does everything else. Maybe it's time to change that to give me little more room for other needed meds. Gabapentin= Neurontin??? If so it is a drug that my PCP has considered before. Will hope for the best tomorrow with him. Thanks my friend. Hope you're right and the swelling is glands and not the first rib.Really don't want TOS added to the mix. Need to type something for hubby and then of course ice when I'm done. Catch upwith you later.
Grasshopper
Grasshopper
beka6
06-27-2007, 09:31 AM
This weather and pain just gets me more depressed.
I used to play tennis and go on powerwalks and to amusement parks with my daughter and now she has to do this with others.
It's like they stole two years of my life, so to speak.
Then there's the fact that on July 27, 2005, it will be two years since the accident and only four days past my birthday.
Ryan,
Even though you're unable to do a lot of the physical activities with your daughter, I'm sure you are there for her in all the other ways that count.
July 27th is my birthday. I'm sorry that it was the day that completely changed your life. :(
I hope you felt uplifted by mass today. Did Cane and Able go with you today? :) No matter how much you struggle, you always find the energy and compassion to help others, Ryan. :angel:
Take care today,
Beka
I used to play tennis and go on powerwalks and to amusement parks with my daughter and now she has to do this with others.
It's like they stole two years of my life, so to speak.
Then there's the fact that on July 27, 2005, it will be two years since the accident and only four days past my birthday.
Ryan,
Even though you're unable to do a lot of the physical activities with your daughter, I'm sure you are there for her in all the other ways that count.
July 27th is my birthday. I'm sorry that it was the day that completely changed your life. :(
I hope you felt uplifted by mass today. Did Cane and Able go with you today? :) No matter how much you struggle, you always find the energy and compassion to help others, Ryan. :angel:
Take care today,
Beka
Phoenix
06-27-2007, 10:03 AM
Ryan,
Even though you're unable to do a lot of the physical activities with your daughter, I'm sure you are there for her in all the other ways that count.
July 27th is my birthday. I'm sorry that it was the day that completely changed your life. :(
I hope you felt uplifted by mass today. Did Cane and Able go with you today? :) No matter how much you struggle, you always find the energy and compassion to help others, Ryan. :angel:
Take care today,
Beka
Dear Beka:
You are right. I am there for her but I even see in her eyes that look which says:
"I understand but I want my daddy back whole; the way he was before the accident. I only have so many years left until I will go to college and probably be off on my own."
darn: she just walked in the room and caught me in tears.
She is more thorough than an investigator when it comes to seeking answers.
July 27th is your birthday and that doesn't bother me one bit.
It was your birthday way before my MVA, who, as my attorney tells me after receiving their answer to the lawsuit, are still standing firm that they are not responsible.
I'm contacting Michael Moore on this one.
I actually shed tears in church this morning.
People think that I wear shades to either be cool or to block the sun's rays; neither.
I just hide my constant external tears from the rest of the world; they can't see my internal ones, if I dont speak.
So I remain silent.
Cane and Abel are always there to lend their support (pardon the pun). :)
I find the energy because it's people like you that provide me with it.
I had a serious thought, during my high school years, of becoming a priest.
You're only the 3rd person I told that to: 1) mother (deceased-God rest) (2) father and now (3) you.
Don't know why that escaped me until now.
How are you doing this morning?
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
Even though you're unable to do a lot of the physical activities with your daughter, I'm sure you are there for her in all the other ways that count.
July 27th is my birthday. I'm sorry that it was the day that completely changed your life. :(
I hope you felt uplifted by mass today. Did Cane and Able go with you today? :) No matter how much you struggle, you always find the energy and compassion to help others, Ryan. :angel:
Take care today,
Beka
Dear Beka:
You are right. I am there for her but I even see in her eyes that look which says:
"I understand but I want my daddy back whole; the way he was before the accident. I only have so many years left until I will go to college and probably be off on my own."
darn: she just walked in the room and caught me in tears.
She is more thorough than an investigator when it comes to seeking answers.
July 27th is your birthday and that doesn't bother me one bit.
It was your birthday way before my MVA, who, as my attorney tells me after receiving their answer to the lawsuit, are still standing firm that they are not responsible.
I'm contacting Michael Moore on this one.
I actually shed tears in church this morning.
People think that I wear shades to either be cool or to block the sun's rays; neither.
I just hide my constant external tears from the rest of the world; they can't see my internal ones, if I dont speak.
So I remain silent.
Cane and Abel are always there to lend their support (pardon the pun). :)
I find the energy because it's people like you that provide me with it.
I had a serious thought, during my high school years, of becoming a priest.
You're only the 3rd person I told that to: 1) mother (deceased-God rest) (2) father and now (3) you.
Don't know why that escaped me until now.
How are you doing this morning?
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
ICC
06-27-2007, 02:27 PM
Beak and Ryan.........Am typing with one hand again but needed you both to know that "Cane and Abel" made my day:blob_fire
I found a picture of Ryan=:cool:
Grasshopper:p
I found a picture of Ryan=:cool:
Grasshopper:p
ICC
06-27-2007, 02:29 PM
Grasshopper is being the board :jester: today!:D
beka6
06-27-2007, 05:23 PM
She is more thorough than an investigator when it comes to seeking answers.
Ryan,
Your daughter sounds just like her father :). Being thorough is a good quality - especially when it comes to helping people. I'm sure she does miss the things you were able to do together 2 years ago. But, you are still the same person and she will learn important lessons throughout this process that she will use for the rest of her life. Did you say that she is 11 years old? Soon she will be a teenager and she'll need a dad that can be available to listen to her worries and give her good advice about life. You are excellent at that kind of stuff. :) For that reason, I'm not a bit surprised to learn that you considered the priesthood - that explains a great deal about your depth and compassion. Thank you for sharing that with me.
You've received disappointing news from the lawyer. The emotional stress on top of the physical pain is enough to bring anyone to their knees. I can't even begin to imagine how drastically your life has changed.
Beka
Ryan,
Your daughter sounds just like her father :). Being thorough is a good quality - especially when it comes to helping people. I'm sure she does miss the things you were able to do together 2 years ago. But, you are still the same person and she will learn important lessons throughout this process that she will use for the rest of her life. Did you say that she is 11 years old? Soon she will be a teenager and she'll need a dad that can be available to listen to her worries and give her good advice about life. You are excellent at that kind of stuff. :) For that reason, I'm not a bit surprised to learn that you considered the priesthood - that explains a great deal about your depth and compassion. Thank you for sharing that with me.
You've received disappointing news from the lawyer. The emotional stress on top of the physical pain is enough to bring anyone to their knees. I can't even begin to imagine how drastically your life has changed.
Beka
beka6
06-27-2007, 05:24 PM
Grasshopper is being the board :jester: today!:D
You are, ICC!! :) It's GREAT to experience your humor! I love it! I hope it means that you are feeling beyond the pain today. I honestly don't know how you cope from day to day, but I feel grateful that you find the energy to share your spirit here. :angel: :angel:
Beka
You are, ICC!! :) It's GREAT to experience your humor! I love it! I hope it means that you are feeling beyond the pain today. I honestly don't know how you cope from day to day, but I feel grateful that you find the energy to share your spirit here. :angel: :angel:
Beka
Phoenix
06-27-2007, 08:10 PM
Ryan,
Your daughter sounds just like her father :). Being thorough is a good quality - especially when it comes to helping people. I'm sure she does miss the things you were able to do together 2 years ago. But, you are still the same person and she will learn important lessons throughout this process that she will use for the rest of her life. Did you say that she is 11 years old? Soon she will be a teenager and she'll need a dad that can be available to listen to her worries and give her good advice about life. You are excellent at that kind of stuff. :) For that reason, I'm not a bit surprised to learn that you considered the priesthood - that explains a great deal about your depth and compassion. Thank you for sharing that with me.
You've received disappointing news from the lawyer. The emotional stress on top of the physical pain is enough to bring anyone to their knees. I can't even begin to imagine how drastically your life has changed.
Beka
Dear Beka:
My daughter is 15 .
The priesthood vocation just seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
It was Sid that joked about me being a priest and I believe if it weren't for her, it might not have surface but now that it has, it explains a lot.
The attorneys are there to handle my case and stated that more will be revealed during the deposition phase.
I really need to try and get a grip on that. I guess after the vdepo's, i'll feel a bit better, when the truth(my side of the events) is recorded.
I already envision a court date in the near future.:eek:
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
Your daughter sounds just like her father :). Being thorough is a good quality - especially when it comes to helping people. I'm sure she does miss the things you were able to do together 2 years ago. But, you are still the same person and she will learn important lessons throughout this process that she will use for the rest of her life. Did you say that she is 11 years old? Soon she will be a teenager and she'll need a dad that can be available to listen to her worries and give her good advice about life. You are excellent at that kind of stuff. :) For that reason, I'm not a bit surprised to learn that you considered the priesthood - that explains a great deal about your depth and compassion. Thank you for sharing that with me.
You've received disappointing news from the lawyer. The emotional stress on top of the physical pain is enough to bring anyone to their knees. I can't even begin to imagine how drastically your life has changed.
Beka
Dear Beka:
My daughter is 15 .
The priesthood vocation just seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
It was Sid that joked about me being a priest and I believe if it weren't for her, it might not have surface but now that it has, it explains a lot.
The attorneys are there to handle my case and stated that more will be revealed during the deposition phase.
I really need to try and get a grip on that. I guess after the vdepo's, i'll feel a bit better, when the truth(my side of the events) is recorded.
I already envision a court date in the near future.:eek:
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
beka6
06-28-2007, 08:16 AM
Ryan,
The sooner the lawyers, etc... can move forward with the depos and the court date, the sooner you can move on. Hopefully, they will all see the truth and you will be able to have this finally come to a successful close.
As far as your daughter goes - I didn't realize that she is 15 - I'm sorry that I got that mixed up.
As parents, we will always have regrets, regardless of how much we are able to do for our kids. I recognize your feelings that you have in regards to your daughter, because I have some of the same feelings in regard to my kids. If it weren't for PTSD and depression and anxiety, blah, blah, blah... how much of a better parent would I be? A LOT better, I'm sure. But, we have to find some kind of peace knowing that we are doing the best that we can. You certainly didn't ask to be involved in that accident. You are doing the best that you can with the situation that has been handed to you. Parental guilt seems to be a natural reflex sometimes.
I do know one thing though - prayer in behalf of our children makes all of the difference in their lives. :angel:
Know that you are not alone on this one, Ryan.
Good luck with your drs appt today. Keep us all posted!
Take care of yourself,
Beka
The sooner the lawyers, etc... can move forward with the depos and the court date, the sooner you can move on. Hopefully, they will all see the truth and you will be able to have this finally come to a successful close.
As far as your daughter goes - I didn't realize that she is 15 - I'm sorry that I got that mixed up.
As parents, we will always have regrets, regardless of how much we are able to do for our kids. I recognize your feelings that you have in regards to your daughter, because I have some of the same feelings in regard to my kids. If it weren't for PTSD and depression and anxiety, blah, blah, blah... how much of a better parent would I be? A LOT better, I'm sure. But, we have to find some kind of peace knowing that we are doing the best that we can. You certainly didn't ask to be involved in that accident. You are doing the best that you can with the situation that has been handed to you. Parental guilt seems to be a natural reflex sometimes.
I do know one thing though - prayer in behalf of our children makes all of the difference in their lives. :angel:
Know that you are not alone on this one, Ryan.
Good luck with your drs appt today. Keep us all posted!
Take care of yourself,
Beka
Phoenix
06-28-2007, 08:49 AM
Dear Beka:
This entire case is eating away at me and although I understand when people say that I should let the attorneys handle their job.
I feel the need to say this and then let it go for all eternity:
I am hurt in more ways than one and this does not go away overnight.
At the end of next month(27th) it will be two years since my accident and the progressive pain that I am experiencing. It is not only a constant reminder of the accident itself but also steals my pleasant dreams, so when I do sleep, I wake up feelin exhausted.
It not only tramples over the physical but the mental as well, so it's not only pain meds but psychiatric ones also.
I need a cane now and am convinced that I will need to weather yet another bout of surgery.
That being said my cervical area will also require surgery at a later date.
The damaged discs are pressing against my nerves and are making me feel helpless.
I never thought that I would be 40 years old and need the assistance of a cane for support.
I wish others would understand that until I have my day in court to "tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth," so help me God, I will not be able to get my mind right with respect to this.
I know that insurance companies lie and even get their insured members to do so but this is being done at my expense.
What is a common business practice for them is being taken personally by me.
My daughter has been raised by me, so I know that she will hang in there.
It is just so upsetting; from potential to "pre"tential, if you will.
Thanks Beka.
How are you doing this morning?
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
This entire case is eating away at me and although I understand when people say that I should let the attorneys handle their job.
I feel the need to say this and then let it go for all eternity:
I am hurt in more ways than one and this does not go away overnight.
At the end of next month(27th) it will be two years since my accident and the progressive pain that I am experiencing. It is not only a constant reminder of the accident itself but also steals my pleasant dreams, so when I do sleep, I wake up feelin exhausted.
It not only tramples over the physical but the mental as well, so it's not only pain meds but psychiatric ones also.
I need a cane now and am convinced that I will need to weather yet another bout of surgery.
That being said my cervical area will also require surgery at a later date.
The damaged discs are pressing against my nerves and are making me feel helpless.
I never thought that I would be 40 years old and need the assistance of a cane for support.
I wish others would understand that until I have my day in court to "tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth," so help me God, I will not be able to get my mind right with respect to this.
I know that insurance companies lie and even get their insured members to do so but this is being done at my expense.
What is a common business practice for them is being taken personally by me.
My daughter has been raised by me, so I know that she will hang in there.
It is just so upsetting; from potential to "pre"tential, if you will.
Thanks Beka.
How are you doing this morning?
Take care
God Bless
Ryan
ICC
06-28-2007, 11:05 AM
Dear Ryan.....As much as I tell you all the time to putthe legal issues aside for now I know how very difficult it is. I still haven't heard from the Judge which makes it all harder. I am so hoping for a decision in my behalf as I have been injured and totally honest about all. The other side has lied and conived through it all. So I tell you to let it go for now even though I know it's always in the back of your mind as it is mine even though I try hard to not let it get to me it does some days. Then you sit in pain, know why and that fact doesn't help any. My prayers are always with you. Be prepared. When it comes to depo time , IF you have to sit and listen to people lie it really takes it's toll on you. Been there, done that. Took me some time and as I would sit and remember and hear the two of them lying I realyy got to the point where I believe it is what it is. BS and very unfair.
Grasshopper
Grasshopper
beka6
06-28-2007, 09:42 PM
Ryan,
You've been severly effected by this accident in many, many ways. The extra stress with the lawyers, etc... adds a tremendous burden of emotional stress that needs to resolve before you can start to heal emotionally. Having this unresolved keeps the wounds fresh and the traumas alive - not to mention the emotional toll of the constant pain.
Give it time - you are working against a system that has it's own set of rules.
Take care,
Beka
You've been severly effected by this accident in many, many ways. The extra stress with the lawyers, etc... adds a tremendous burden of emotional stress that needs to resolve before you can start to heal emotionally. Having this unresolved keeps the wounds fresh and the traumas alive - not to mention the emotional toll of the constant pain.
Give it time - you are working against a system that has it's own set of rules.
Take care,
Beka