dizzy45
07-05-2007, 05:06 PM
Hi Everyone
THIS IS THE TEST
I too am fighting depression, have been for a long time, but a strange thing happened to me at the weekend and now I feel as though I am getting better for the first time. Try the following test:
Think of something that you want to see, feel or hear. It could be a certain colour balloon in the sky, a certain colour feather in your hand or to hear from somebody that you haven't heard of from a long time. Picture that thought in your mind, exactly how that object would look or the person you would like to hear from. You really must believe with all your might that it is happening, that you can see it, feel it or hear it. Think about how you would feel if this thing happened. Hold that thought, feeling and belief for as long as you can. Think about it as much as possible and how happy it would make you feel.
Then see what happens. It could take a couple of hours, a couple of days or a couple of weeks. If something out of the extraordinary happens to you, as it did to me, please let me know.
Dx.
THIS IS THE TEST
I too am fighting depression, have been for a long time, but a strange thing happened to me at the weekend and now I feel as though I am getting better for the first time. Try the following test:
Think of something that you want to see, feel or hear. It could be a certain colour balloon in the sky, a certain colour feather in your hand or to hear from somebody that you haven't heard of from a long time. Picture that thought in your mind, exactly how that object would look or the person you would like to hear from. You really must believe with all your might that it is happening, that you can see it, feel it or hear it. Think about how you would feel if this thing happened. Hold that thought, feeling and belief for as long as you can. Think about it as much as possible and how happy it would make you feel.
Then see what happens. It could take a couple of hours, a couple of days or a couple of weeks. If something out of the extraordinary happens to you, as it did to me, please let me know.
Dx.
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justlilme
07-05-2007, 05:32 PM
That's awesome for you!
Ok, I'll go and meditate to clear my mind and then try it. I'll let you know how it goes...
Ok, I'll go and meditate to clear my mind and then try it. I'll let you know how it goes...
dizzy45
07-05-2007, 05:35 PM
Good luck my friend
Above all, you must believe and feel it is happening. That is the key.
What happened to me was miraculous!!
Dx
Above all, you must believe and feel it is happening. That is the key.
What happened to me was miraculous!!
Dx
vicky88
07-05-2007, 07:58 PM
dizzy45, did you read "The Secret" because it seems that what you did was something out from the book? I have ocd and depression, I've been suffering for 17 months already and the thing with me is it's the ocd that's causing the depression. Do you think that if I do what you did, it will also help me? Please I hope to hear from you. I'm desperate to be cured.
vicky88
vicky88
freekaingjon
07-06-2007, 12:33 AM
hummm... i just been looking around this site for about an hour or so but it seems like im the only male here that's depressed. i put some thought in your test and it seems to work. ill try it out. good luck to everyone out there trying it out
dizzy45
07-06-2007, 03:17 AM
vicky88
Try the test. You have nothing to loose but everything to gain. This is the first stage to fighting your ill health. I can't promise a cure, but I can help and guide you. Do exactly as I say in the test. Is something amazing happens to you, as it did to me on 30th June do let me know. Dx.
Try the test. You have nothing to loose but everything to gain. This is the first stage to fighting your ill health. I can't promise a cure, but I can help and guide you. Do exactly as I say in the test. Is something amazing happens to you, as it did to me on 30th June do let me know. Dx.
Dakota_Skye
07-06-2007, 09:56 AM
SOE-where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu????
freekaingjon--no, you're not the only guy around here who's depressed. don't worry about it...perhaps at that moment there werent any on the board...but just wait a bit and you'll see.
dizzy--i've had major depression with anxiety since i was around my 20's (at least that's when i was diagnosed). i'm going to be 37 in three months. i've tried medications, meditation, yoga, therapy, incence and lighting candles, bubble baths, protein drinks, hydrating my body by drinking water all the time, total body relaxation (you know, starting at your feet and going up...), buddhism; went back to my own faith and prayed (still do), and even imagery, as you have had that day. these have all had their benefits--no doubt, however, the effects did not last long, and when a depressive episode would "hit," all those wonderful, miraculous effects would disappear as well, and i was left in total "darkness."
is there something special about the place, or about the "image" that is very different for you? maybe if you explained this in a bit more detail, it would be of more help, to us, depressives?! such as, did you just watch a show before? did you have a nice (i'm not saying alcoholic, it could be a coke) drink before that? did you just make love? did you go for a nice walk/run/etc.? did you take a pill for some other ailment--such as pain?
i'd love to have s.thing miraculous happen to me, believe me. and i have wished it with all my heart and soul... but other than popping s.thing that's not legal and feeling so wondrous, i really do not know what else i could do to lift this veil of hell and darkness.
thanks in advance for your response.
freekaingjon--no, you're not the only guy around here who's depressed. don't worry about it...perhaps at that moment there werent any on the board...but just wait a bit and you'll see.
dizzy--i've had major depression with anxiety since i was around my 20's (at least that's when i was diagnosed). i'm going to be 37 in three months. i've tried medications, meditation, yoga, therapy, incence and lighting candles, bubble baths, protein drinks, hydrating my body by drinking water all the time, total body relaxation (you know, starting at your feet and going up...), buddhism; went back to my own faith and prayed (still do), and even imagery, as you have had that day. these have all had their benefits--no doubt, however, the effects did not last long, and when a depressive episode would "hit," all those wonderful, miraculous effects would disappear as well, and i was left in total "darkness."
is there something special about the place, or about the "image" that is very different for you? maybe if you explained this in a bit more detail, it would be of more help, to us, depressives?! such as, did you just watch a show before? did you have a nice (i'm not saying alcoholic, it could be a coke) drink before that? did you just make love? did you go for a nice walk/run/etc.? did you take a pill for some other ailment--such as pain?
i'd love to have s.thing miraculous happen to me, believe me. and i have wished it with all my heart and soul... but other than popping s.thing that's not legal and feeling so wondrous, i really do not know what else i could do to lift this veil of hell and darkness.
thanks in advance for your response.
Seymour93
07-06-2007, 11:08 AM
Thanks....I will give this some thought.
Seymour93
07-06-2007, 11:16 AM
hummm... i just been looking around this site for about an hour or so but it seems like im the only male here that's depressed. i put some thought in your test and it seems to work. ill try it out. good luck to everyone out there trying it out
We are here.....just limited in what we can do!
Good luck.
We are here.....just limited in what we can do!
Good luck.
dizzy45
07-06-2007, 01:05 PM
Dakota
No I didn't have a drink or watch a show or do anything out of the extraordinary. I just chose an image at random. In fact I was on my way to work, on the train, thinking as we all do. The image I chose was a simple black feather. I had a clear image of it in my mind and imagined I was touching and feeling it, believing it was there in my hands. I walked to work looking everywhere for this feather. Did I see one - no. I told no-one about this thought and image that I had. As soon as I walked into my office I forgot all about it. A couple of days later I pulled my car up at the front of my house, and walked to my front door. For no particular reason, I looked down. There at the foot of my door was this black feather, just as I had imagined it. Not a small dinky little feather either, it is about 10 inches long. I've lived here 20 years and that hasn't happened before, not right outside my front doorstep. Even weirder is that there is a ledge above the door so how could something drop from the sky and divert onto my doorstep. I also have a vast garden at the back. I looked all around to see if loads of feathers had fallen that day. I found none. Since that day, June 30th I haven't seen one feather on the ground anywhere. People may say it's just a coincidence but I believe otherwise, it was delivered to me by the power of my thought. The feather now takes pride of place on the wall in my kitchen. I will always keep it. I might even get it framed.
The point of this excercise is that through the power of thought, believing and feeling you can get anything that you want. It will be delivered to you. If you think good thoughts then good things will be delivered.
The reason you are constantly depressed is you are thinking negative thoughts. If you think negative thoughts all the time, then negative things will be delivered to you. Try changing your thoughts to positive ones. Think about the simple things that make you happy like the smile on a childs face or some nice food. You must constantly be aware of thinking positively if you want to beat this depression.
Imagine you have Aladdins lamp. Make a wish. Think about that wish. But more importantly you have to imagine that it is already happening and how this would make you feel.
After the feather was delivered I, like most people started thinking about something bigger and better - a car. A nice black sports car. I imagined sitting in it and driving it.
I've only today just come back from a station in London. The last time I stepped on the concourse there was about 6 years ago.Guess what was there on the concourse? A brand new black sports car (Audi). There was a competiton going on to win this car. Of course I entered it. I wasn't as excited about seeing the car as I was with the feather because somehow in my mind I knew that the car was going to show up eventually. It would be even more amazing if I won the car, but just seeing it there proved to me that my belief in the car had it delivered to me again.
Remember these four things: think, believe, feel and only have positive thoughts. Your life will begin to change as it has mine.
Would be glad to hear anyone elses experiences out therex
The test is the first message posted here on 5th July at 3:06
No I didn't have a drink or watch a show or do anything out of the extraordinary. I just chose an image at random. In fact I was on my way to work, on the train, thinking as we all do. The image I chose was a simple black feather. I had a clear image of it in my mind and imagined I was touching and feeling it, believing it was there in my hands. I walked to work looking everywhere for this feather. Did I see one - no. I told no-one about this thought and image that I had. As soon as I walked into my office I forgot all about it. A couple of days later I pulled my car up at the front of my house, and walked to my front door. For no particular reason, I looked down. There at the foot of my door was this black feather, just as I had imagined it. Not a small dinky little feather either, it is about 10 inches long. I've lived here 20 years and that hasn't happened before, not right outside my front doorstep. Even weirder is that there is a ledge above the door so how could something drop from the sky and divert onto my doorstep. I also have a vast garden at the back. I looked all around to see if loads of feathers had fallen that day. I found none. Since that day, June 30th I haven't seen one feather on the ground anywhere. People may say it's just a coincidence but I believe otherwise, it was delivered to me by the power of my thought. The feather now takes pride of place on the wall in my kitchen. I will always keep it. I might even get it framed.
The point of this excercise is that through the power of thought, believing and feeling you can get anything that you want. It will be delivered to you. If you think good thoughts then good things will be delivered.
The reason you are constantly depressed is you are thinking negative thoughts. If you think negative thoughts all the time, then negative things will be delivered to you. Try changing your thoughts to positive ones. Think about the simple things that make you happy like the smile on a childs face or some nice food. You must constantly be aware of thinking positively if you want to beat this depression.
Imagine you have Aladdins lamp. Make a wish. Think about that wish. But more importantly you have to imagine that it is already happening and how this would make you feel.
After the feather was delivered I, like most people started thinking about something bigger and better - a car. A nice black sports car. I imagined sitting in it and driving it.
I've only today just come back from a station in London. The last time I stepped on the concourse there was about 6 years ago.Guess what was there on the concourse? A brand new black sports car (Audi). There was a competiton going on to win this car. Of course I entered it. I wasn't as excited about seeing the car as I was with the feather because somehow in my mind I knew that the car was going to show up eventually. It would be even more amazing if I won the car, but just seeing it there proved to me that my belief in the car had it delivered to me again.
Remember these four things: think, believe, feel and only have positive thoughts. Your life will begin to change as it has mine.
Would be glad to hear anyone elses experiences out therex
The test is the first message posted here on 5th July at 3:06
dizzy45
07-06-2007, 01:25 PM
oh yes and I forgot to say that the reason for my depression is mainly due to my relationship with my Dad. I won't go into the full story but I haven't seen him for years but I have thought about him almost every day. He is 82 years of age now. I came home from work last Wednesday and was going through my messages on my phone. There was a message on there from my Dad, saying he wants to see me and bury the past. The law has started to work on my subconscious thoughts!!
jim123456
07-06-2007, 03:57 PM
As a child my mum lost me
a ballon
in the sky
let me look
always like looking
let me see
always like seeing
let me try
always like to try
I listen
always listen
colored thing
always like things
I need it
going to like catching it
mmm new places
always like places
where's mum
always like mum
balloons here
not liking here
wheres mum
worried bite my thumb
mum where was you
you LOSTED me mum
lots of questions
not know rules mum
lots of words
not know words mum
stop pulling me
see my balloon mum
liked to catch it
catchin rules
like the color
color rules
making noises
vooooom rules
like to squeeze it
bursting rules
stretching it
sore lug rules
sick of it
learnt the rules
obsession and rules - the obsession is more important
a ballon
in the sky
let me look
always like looking
let me see
always like seeing
let me try
always like to try
I listen
always listen
colored thing
always like things
I need it
going to like catching it
mmm new places
always like places
where's mum
always like mum
balloons here
not liking here
wheres mum
worried bite my thumb
mum where was you
you LOSTED me mum
lots of questions
not know rules mum
lots of words
not know words mum
stop pulling me
see my balloon mum
liked to catch it
catchin rules
like the color
color rules
making noises
vooooom rules
like to squeeze it
bursting rules
stretching it
sore lug rules
sick of it
learnt the rules
obsession and rules - the obsession is more important
dizzy45
07-06-2007, 05:04 PM
jim123456
Dear friend
Did you write this cause you read my test? Either way, the baloon has been delivered. What colour is this baloon you r thinking of? When I thought of my baloon it had to be a particular colour and it's funny how you say here that colour rules. I have been looking up to the sky the last couple of days, looking out for it.
Everyone who is reading this, like I said before in my previous messages, the thing can appear not necessarily as a material thing, but as a phone call or even in this magnificent world of technology, by an email (I never even thought of that).
The law works in mysterious ways.x
Just think, if I hadn't received the feather, I wouldn't have come on this website to spread the word, and I wouldn't have got you all .....thinking - which is the key my friends.
If you want to try the test yourself, see my first entry posted here only yesterday on 5 July (scroll to bottom of this page).
Dear friend
Did you write this cause you read my test? Either way, the baloon has been delivered. What colour is this baloon you r thinking of? When I thought of my baloon it had to be a particular colour and it's funny how you say here that colour rules. I have been looking up to the sky the last couple of days, looking out for it.
Everyone who is reading this, like I said before in my previous messages, the thing can appear not necessarily as a material thing, but as a phone call or even in this magnificent world of technology, by an email (I never even thought of that).
The law works in mysterious ways.x
Just think, if I hadn't received the feather, I wouldn't have come on this website to spread the word, and I wouldn't have got you all .....thinking - which is the key my friends.
If you want to try the test yourself, see my first entry posted here only yesterday on 5 July (scroll to bottom of this page).
SOE
07-06-2007, 09:51 PM
SOE-where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu????
:wave:
It's hard for me to respond to posts that claim to have the cure for depression.
Like you, I have been fighting depression most of my life. I had to give up on ADs 3 years ago -- but that's another story (and no, they didn't work for me). I can't tell you how tempted I am at times to just give up and go back on them, just to not "feel" anymore, but I know that's not a real answer for me.
I wish there was a cure. There are things that help, but can we truly be rid of it forever?
If it were as simple as a hot water bottle, or mind over matter, would we all be posting on a depression board?
:wave:
It's hard for me to respond to posts that claim to have the cure for depression.
Like you, I have been fighting depression most of my life. I had to give up on ADs 3 years ago -- but that's another story (and no, they didn't work for me). I can't tell you how tempted I am at times to just give up and go back on them, just to not "feel" anymore, but I know that's not a real answer for me.
I wish there was a cure. There are things that help, but can we truly be rid of it forever?
If it were as simple as a hot water bottle, or mind over matter, would we all be posting on a depression board?
Dakota_Skye
07-06-2007, 11:17 PM
:wave:
If it were as simple as a hot water bottle, or mind over matter, would we all be posting on a depression board?
SOE--that's what i was basically getting at! :wave:
If it were as simple as a hot water bottle, or mind over matter, would we all be posting on a depression board?
SOE--that's what i was basically getting at! :wave:
SOE
07-07-2007, 01:17 AM
SOE--that's what i was basically getting at! :wave:
I have noticed that we often think alike.
I have noticed that we often think alike.
dizzy45
07-07-2007, 05:57 AM
:wave:
It's hard for me to respond to posts that claim to have the cure for depression.
Like you, I have been fighting depression most of my life. I had to give up on ADs 3 years ago -- but that's another story (and no, they didn't work for me). I can't tell you how tempted I am at times to just give up and go back on them, just to not "feel" anymore, but I know that's not a real answer for me.
I wish there was a cure. There are things that help, but can we truly be rid of it forever?
If it were as simple as a hot water bottle, or mind over matter, would we all be posting on a depression board?
Have you tried my test? Try it, like I did that morning on the train with my black feather, that was delivered to me 2 days later. I can't describe how I felt when I saw it but it makes me believe that I can have anything I want, I just have to ask.
You said in one post that you think alike with someone else. I have just opened a book which is all about what I have been talking about, which I use as my "bible" and refer to it whever I go. On the very page that I opened it on just now it says and I quote: "The law of attraction says that like attracts like, so when you think a thought, you are also attracting like thoughts to you". So there you see it is working for you already, you just didn't realise it.
Charles Haanel, an Author and American businessman born in the 1800's also knew and quoted the above fact.
I am not a religious person, but even in the real bible it states:
"What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them" Mark 11.24
If more people realised this huge power that already exists within them and learnt how to use it to its full potential, I bet your bottom dollar there will be less postings on this board.
x
It's hard for me to respond to posts that claim to have the cure for depression.
Like you, I have been fighting depression most of my life. I had to give up on ADs 3 years ago -- but that's another story (and no, they didn't work for me). I can't tell you how tempted I am at times to just give up and go back on them, just to not "feel" anymore, but I know that's not a real answer for me.
I wish there was a cure. There are things that help, but can we truly be rid of it forever?
If it were as simple as a hot water bottle, or mind over matter, would we all be posting on a depression board?
Have you tried my test? Try it, like I did that morning on the train with my black feather, that was delivered to me 2 days later. I can't describe how I felt when I saw it but it makes me believe that I can have anything I want, I just have to ask.
You said in one post that you think alike with someone else. I have just opened a book which is all about what I have been talking about, which I use as my "bible" and refer to it whever I go. On the very page that I opened it on just now it says and I quote: "The law of attraction says that like attracts like, so when you think a thought, you are also attracting like thoughts to you". So there you see it is working for you already, you just didn't realise it.
Charles Haanel, an Author and American businessman born in the 1800's also knew and quoted the above fact.
I am not a religious person, but even in the real bible it states:
"What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them" Mark 11.24
If more people realised this huge power that already exists within them and learnt how to use it to its full potential, I bet your bottom dollar there will be less postings on this board.
x
Dakota_Skye
07-07-2007, 09:02 AM
so, dizzy, the book you are reading from all this, is The Secret, isn't it? i've seen the film actually, and in my opinion, there wasn't anything "new" in there that i didn't read or heard about before... it was a collection of information from past books and writings about "attraction" and the universe, and all of its tenets basically lie on some theological foundation... at least that's how it all comes across...ask, believe and you shall receive...some people of this belief system talk about using a "vision board"--like in a poster board or similar, on which people can tack on a picture of what they really want, or a goal or something...and to surround oneself with positive people. the vision board is supposed to help the person in getting that which they desire much quicker...basically, like you said, to envision oneself not only saying/asking for it, but already having it.
in any case, this "secret" is not at all a secret, as the producers of the show have put it, since, like i've said before, i've seen (and i'm sure others have) and read books espousing similar ideas. think of wayne dyer as an ex.--he talks about the "universal force," and attraction, etc.... however, i do think the secret has its good points--i.e., think of good, positive things, and surround yourself with good, positive people. but, on the visualization part and on getting that which you desire to really MANIFEST on your doorstep...that is pretty "steep." why don't we all collectively think and really desire away (and really believe it has already happened) world hunger and poverty, for example (instead of wishing for a brand new car); or, if i may be selfish enough here, maybe i can think hard enough and long enough, and believe strong enough, so that the universe will actually manifest russell crowe or joaquin phoenix on my doorstep when i get home from work, dead-tired one evening? hmmmm.
dizzy--i don't mean to make light of something that is working for you. and i am sorry if i come across that way. it's just that i've had this depression for most of my life here, and i've tried everything possible, and over the years it's only gotten worse. however, i do wish for everyone out there that whatever path they choose and whatever they try to combat the ugliness of this disease-- it will lead them to success and to some peace of mind/soul.
fondly,
dakota
in any case, this "secret" is not at all a secret, as the producers of the show have put it, since, like i've said before, i've seen (and i'm sure others have) and read books espousing similar ideas. think of wayne dyer as an ex.--he talks about the "universal force," and attraction, etc.... however, i do think the secret has its good points--i.e., think of good, positive things, and surround yourself with good, positive people. but, on the visualization part and on getting that which you desire to really MANIFEST on your doorstep...that is pretty "steep." why don't we all collectively think and really desire away (and really believe it has already happened) world hunger and poverty, for example (instead of wishing for a brand new car); or, if i may be selfish enough here, maybe i can think hard enough and long enough, and believe strong enough, so that the universe will actually manifest russell crowe or joaquin phoenix on my doorstep when i get home from work, dead-tired one evening? hmmmm.
dizzy--i don't mean to make light of something that is working for you. and i am sorry if i come across that way. it's just that i've had this depression for most of my life here, and i've tried everything possible, and over the years it's only gotten worse. however, i do wish for everyone out there that whatever path they choose and whatever they try to combat the ugliness of this disease-- it will lead them to success and to some peace of mind/soul.
fondly,
dakota
dizzy45
07-07-2007, 09:22 AM
so, dizzy, the book you are reading from all this, is The Secret, isn't it? i've seen the film actually, and in my opinion, there wasn't anything "new" in there that i didn't read or heard about before... it was a collection of information from past books and writings about "attraction" and the universe, and all of its tenets basically lie on some theological foundation... at least that's how it all comes across...ask, believe and you shall receive...some people of this belief system talk about using a "vision board"--like in a poster board or similar, on which people can tack on a picture of what they really want, or a goal or something...and to surround oneself with positive people. the vision board is supposed to help the person in getting that which they desire much quicker...basically, like you said, to envision oneself not only saying/asking for it, but already having it.
in any case, this "secret" is not at all a secret, as the producers of the show have put it, since, like i've said before, i've seen (and i'm sure others have) and read books espousing similar ideas. think of wayne dyer as an ex.--he talks about the "universal force," and attraction, etc.... however, i do think the secret has its good points--i.e., think of good, positive things, and surround yourself with good, positive people. but, on the visualization part and on getting that which you desire to really MANIFEST on your doorstep...that is pretty "steep." why don't we all collectively think and really desire away (and really believe it has already happened) world hunger and poverty, for example (instead of wishing for a brand new car); or, if i may be selfish enough here, maybe i can think hard enough and long enough, and believe strong enough, so that the universe will actually manifest russell crowe or joaquin phoenix on my doorstep when i get home from work, dead-tired one evening? hmmmm.
dizzy--i don't mean to make light of something that is working for you. and i am sorry if i come across that way. it's just that i've had this depression for most of my life here, and i've tried everything possible, and over the years it's only gotten worse. however, i do wish for everyone out there that whatever path they choose and whatever they try to combat the ugliness of this disease-- it will lead them to success and to some peace of mind/soul.
fondly,
dakota
Hi Dakota
You can believe with what you want to believe but I am sticking to what I believe. That is the correct book but I thought we weren't allowed to mention books' names here, that's why I haven't quoted it. All I know is, that I used the methods in the book and that black feather was delivered to my doorstep. Since then, I have changed my way of thinking and some other extraordinary things have happened to me only within a week.
All the best
Dizzy:)
in any case, this "secret" is not at all a secret, as the producers of the show have put it, since, like i've said before, i've seen (and i'm sure others have) and read books espousing similar ideas. think of wayne dyer as an ex.--he talks about the "universal force," and attraction, etc.... however, i do think the secret has its good points--i.e., think of good, positive things, and surround yourself with good, positive people. but, on the visualization part and on getting that which you desire to really MANIFEST on your doorstep...that is pretty "steep." why don't we all collectively think and really desire away (and really believe it has already happened) world hunger and poverty, for example (instead of wishing for a brand new car); or, if i may be selfish enough here, maybe i can think hard enough and long enough, and believe strong enough, so that the universe will actually manifest russell crowe or joaquin phoenix on my doorstep when i get home from work, dead-tired one evening? hmmmm.
dizzy--i don't mean to make light of something that is working for you. and i am sorry if i come across that way. it's just that i've had this depression for most of my life here, and i've tried everything possible, and over the years it's only gotten worse. however, i do wish for everyone out there that whatever path they choose and whatever they try to combat the ugliness of this disease-- it will lead them to success and to some peace of mind/soul.
fondly,
dakota
Hi Dakota
You can believe with what you want to believe but I am sticking to what I believe. That is the correct book but I thought we weren't allowed to mention books' names here, that's why I haven't quoted it. All I know is, that I used the methods in the book and that black feather was delivered to my doorstep. Since then, I have changed my way of thinking and some other extraordinary things have happened to me only within a week.
All the best
Dizzy:)
jim123456
07-07-2007, 09:32 AM
Yes dizzy it was specially written in relation to your experience and perhaps concentrating on an object for a short time might help.
Why.
An object may enforce the relearning of simple relationships. It would have to be a very simple object and certainly nothing technological. The end of my story is the beginning of another one. Substitute "the balloon was burst and I lost interest in it" with my "thoughts were burst and I losted them".
The solution to getting my thoughts back would be to "repair the balloon" which could be substituted with "taking the antidepressant". It seems the antidepressant has fixed my thoughts but my gut feeling is that something else is wrong. This something else is that, though my thoughts are working, my episodic memories have an incorrect sequence of words attached to them.
To get my memories back into order my next action has to be to blow up the balloon once more and immediately let it go. Because I am logged into a set of early (primitive) rules it's difficult to set off in pursuit of the balloon. First I have to break these rules by finding short term space. Whilst on my journey I may discover that my episodic memories have a sequence of words totally different to the sequence presently in my head.
I started to do this in my imagination. Surely if I can remember the optimum sequence that worked all those years ago I will start to find myself relative to my memories.
Prior to the chase my thoughts were that I should catch the balloon and sit down to draw funny faces on it. However this thought was stupid as do so would put myself at risk and where would I get the crayon from. Then I thought I should rub the balloon to make scary noises. Again stupid as I could have easily burst the balloon making the adventure pointless. Whatever I thought of always ended in individualism (myself) and in reality I was still playing to the primitive rules.
I decided the best way would be to chase the balloon all day without rules in a way that can be best described as obsessional. As soon as I burst it for the last time I had a much more organised mind. I realised the important thing was to share it in the same space (like hanging on to it till I found mum). Only then did the texture relate to feelings, the feelings to noises and reaction, the reaction to recognition and giggles, the giggles to jealousy and others wanting balloons, others wanting balloons to different colors and the environment and the environment to disposing of the remnants in a safe way.
What I had found was a kind of social fulfilment.
Your question was "what color".
The answers in a song that's very much to do with sorting words, priorities and balloons. If anyone wants one theres still ninety eight left.
Why.
An object may enforce the relearning of simple relationships. It would have to be a very simple object and certainly nothing technological. The end of my story is the beginning of another one. Substitute "the balloon was burst and I lost interest in it" with my "thoughts were burst and I losted them".
The solution to getting my thoughts back would be to "repair the balloon" which could be substituted with "taking the antidepressant". It seems the antidepressant has fixed my thoughts but my gut feeling is that something else is wrong. This something else is that, though my thoughts are working, my episodic memories have an incorrect sequence of words attached to them.
To get my memories back into order my next action has to be to blow up the balloon once more and immediately let it go. Because I am logged into a set of early (primitive) rules it's difficult to set off in pursuit of the balloon. First I have to break these rules by finding short term space. Whilst on my journey I may discover that my episodic memories have a sequence of words totally different to the sequence presently in my head.
I started to do this in my imagination. Surely if I can remember the optimum sequence that worked all those years ago I will start to find myself relative to my memories.
Prior to the chase my thoughts were that I should catch the balloon and sit down to draw funny faces on it. However this thought was stupid as do so would put myself at risk and where would I get the crayon from. Then I thought I should rub the balloon to make scary noises. Again stupid as I could have easily burst the balloon making the adventure pointless. Whatever I thought of always ended in individualism (myself) and in reality I was still playing to the primitive rules.
I decided the best way would be to chase the balloon all day without rules in a way that can be best described as obsessional. As soon as I burst it for the last time I had a much more organised mind. I realised the important thing was to share it in the same space (like hanging on to it till I found mum). Only then did the texture relate to feelings, the feelings to noises and reaction, the reaction to recognition and giggles, the giggles to jealousy and others wanting balloons, others wanting balloons to different colors and the environment and the environment to disposing of the remnants in a safe way.
What I had found was a kind of social fulfilment.
Your question was "what color".
The answers in a song that's very much to do with sorting words, priorities and balloons. If anyone wants one theres still ninety eight left.
Dakota_Skye
07-07-2007, 09:33 AM
it's OK, dizzy! :) to each his/her own, as the saying goes.
and yes, we're allowed to mention books and authors, but not to copy materials from them, or to put other links than the ones offered by healthboards on here....
and please keep posting. i may be a bit harsh this morning, since i have a terrible headache. :(
and yes, we're allowed to mention books and authors, but not to copy materials from them, or to put other links than the ones offered by healthboards on here....
and please keep posting. i may be a bit harsh this morning, since i have a terrible headache. :(
mycatwillow
07-07-2007, 09:38 AM
Congratulations on finding something that works for you. That's great. However what works for one person will not necessarily work for the next person. Personally I've tried everything including thinking positive and visualizing what I want, and it doesn't work for me. And I agree that there really is nothing new in there, however it's being "packaged" in a different way that works for some people, but not everyone.
jim123456
07-07-2007, 10:25 AM
"Personally I've tried everything including thinking positive and visualizing what I want, and it doesn't work for me."
IMO thinking positive and visualizing will enhance at the moment experiences but not in the past experiences. These are stuck in long term memory (fusiform gyrus) without a reference point to the frontal lobes (prefrontal cortex).
I think it may be worth a try by simplifying your word choice into a story containing previously experienced thoughts and visualizations. Sorting your mammilian brain out first will bring the developed human brain into line.
If you start to think using the complexity of linguistics all you are doing is stimulating your short term memories which are the last thing you need to stimulate.
IMO thinking positive and visualizing will enhance at the moment experiences but not in the past experiences. These are stuck in long term memory (fusiform gyrus) without a reference point to the frontal lobes (prefrontal cortex).
I think it may be worth a try by simplifying your word choice into a story containing previously experienced thoughts and visualizations. Sorting your mammilian brain out first will bring the developed human brain into line.
If you start to think using the complexity of linguistics all you are doing is stimulating your short term memories which are the last thing you need to stimulate.
Dakota_Skye
07-08-2007, 10:44 AM
jim, i'm trying to understand this: are you saying that if we want to visualize past experiences, we are to put the experience into words? yes, words are taking place in "the now"....and they are generated by our "grey matter," yet you also say toward the end that by "using the complexity of linguistics all you are doing is stimulating your short term memories which are the last thing you need to stimulate." so, then how do words/a story help us to visualize past experiences, since this process depends on the complexity of linguistics, as you put it?--and since bringing up "short term memories are the last thing [we] want to do", how can we use words, and not trigger short-term memory at the same time? sorry, i don't think i've explained myself well at all, but maybe you can explain your view in a simpler way too?... i'm just curious, that's all!
dizzy45
07-08-2007, 04:05 PM
520 views so far. Wow, I must be doing something right. Has anyone out there tried my test yet (see the bottom of the posts) who would like to share their experience?
vicky88
07-08-2007, 05:07 PM
Hi Dizzy,
I just watched the dvd of the secret last night and it's amazing! It's very inspirational and I will definitely try it out to conquer my battle with my ocd and depression. I also bought the book and will start to read. So can you say now that you're over your depression?
vicky88
I just watched the dvd of the secret last night and it's amazing! It's very inspirational and I will definitely try it out to conquer my battle with my ocd and depression. I also bought the book and will start to read. So can you say now that you're over your depression?
vicky88
dizzy45
07-08-2007, 05:33 PM
Vicky
No I am not over my depression, but I feel I am on the right road towards it. The book changed my life. I hope you do experience the same experience that I had, it was amazing. It just makes me feel now, that I can change the situation that I am in. Today, I ordered more books on the subject which I will read in great depth. The strange thing that lead me to the secret in the first place was that this guy let me down big time. I happened to get into my car and turn on the radio and someone was talking about how you should not feel bad things for somebody who has let you down as it reverts back on you. And he had quoted it from the secret. I kept the authors name in my mind until I got home. Bought the book. Had an amazing experience and here I am now on this website. If I can change just one person's life from being here and making people aware, that would bring me such joy.
No I am not over my depression, but I feel I am on the right road towards it. The book changed my life. I hope you do experience the same experience that I had, it was amazing. It just makes me feel now, that I can change the situation that I am in. Today, I ordered more books on the subject which I will read in great depth. The strange thing that lead me to the secret in the first place was that this guy let me down big time. I happened to get into my car and turn on the radio and someone was talking about how you should not feel bad things for somebody who has let you down as it reverts back on you. And he had quoted it from the secret. I kept the authors name in my mind until I got home. Bought the book. Had an amazing experience and here I am now on this website. If I can change just one person's life from being here and making people aware, that would bring me such joy.
jim123456
07-09-2007, 02:44 AM
"so, then how do words/a story help us to visualize past experiences, since this process depends on the complexity of linguistics"
The problem is in the complexity of the vocabulary. What I am saying is to imagine a very basic story avoiding the complexity of linguistics. Once you have the simple words in order of experience you can work though the story again adding more complex ones. The problem IMO is having too many words and not enough processing capacity to arrange them back into the order in which they were first learnt.
The problem is in the complexity of the vocabulary. What I am saying is to imagine a very basic story avoiding the complexity of linguistics. Once you have the simple words in order of experience you can work though the story again adding more complex ones. The problem IMO is having too many words and not enough processing capacity to arrange them back into the order in which they were first learnt.
Quasinerd
07-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Wow, you do what I have done since the onset of clinical depression. I have had such a good time learning about my brain and all of its wounders. I have been able to create voices, landscapes, and even the occational animation. The only problem I have is that it often keeps me up at night. Soo much going on in there makes it difficult to maintain a regular sleep schedule. Has anyone else had this problem?
dizzy45
07-10-2007, 05:52 PM
Wow, you do what I have done since the onset of clinical depression. I have had such a good time learning about my brain and all of its wounders. I have been able to create voices, landscapes, and even the occational animation. The only problem I have is that it often keeps me up at night. Soo much going on in there makes it difficult to maintain a regular sleep schedule. Has anyone else had this problem?
I agree. Some people do not realise the powers that already lie within our minds. We all have the ability to tap into those powers, if only more people would realise it. Recently I have found myself in a state of semi-consciousness and all of a sudden a great piece of music or a great work of art comes into my mind which I would never even think of in my conscious state. It happened to me only last night. I was experiencing a great piece of music but I can't for the life of me remember it as soon as I awake. It absolutely amazes me. Some people would be amazed to know but some of the great artists and musicians that we know about had this same experience but they were somehow able to remember them and deliver their glorious work to us. And no, you are not alone in not sleeping well, cause my brain is so hyperactive.
I agree. Some people do not realise the powers that already lie within our minds. We all have the ability to tap into those powers, if only more people would realise it. Recently I have found myself in a state of semi-consciousness and all of a sudden a great piece of music or a great work of art comes into my mind which I would never even think of in my conscious state. It happened to me only last night. I was experiencing a great piece of music but I can't for the life of me remember it as soon as I awake. It absolutely amazes me. Some people would be amazed to know but some of the great artists and musicians that we know about had this same experience but they were somehow able to remember them and deliver their glorious work to us. And no, you are not alone in not sleeping well, cause my brain is so hyperactive.
ImagineLennon
07-12-2007, 03:08 AM
Thanks for sharing that with us, dizzy, and I'm glad it has helped you. I'll give it a go and see what happens...
dizzy45
07-12-2007, 03:29 PM
Thanks for sharing that with us, dizzy, and I'm glad it has helped you. I'll give it a go and see what happens...
Hi
I will be interested to know if you experience anything like I did.
D.
Hi
I will be interested to know if you experience anything like I did.
D.
vicky88
07-12-2007, 07:22 PM
This is for Dizzy,
How do you practice The Test in terms of getting over your depression? Do you imagine yourself cured from the depression and feel that it's really happening? Do you tell yourself that I want to be happy again and depression free. Hope you can respond to my questions. Thanks!
vicky88
How do you practice The Test in terms of getting over your depression? Do you imagine yourself cured from the depression and feel that it's really happening? Do you tell yourself that I want to be happy again and depression free. Hope you can respond to my questions. Thanks!
vicky88
dizzy45
07-13-2007, 09:02 AM
This is for Dizzy,
How do you practice The Test in terms of getting over your depression? Do you imagine yourself cured from the depression and feel that it's really happening? Do you tell yourself that I want to be happy again and depression free. Hope you can respond to my questions. Thanks!
vicky88
How do you practice The Test in terms of getting over your depression? Do you imagine yourself cured from the depression and feel that it's really happening? Do you tell yourself that I want to be happy again and depression free. Hope you can respond to my questions. Thanks!
vicky88
dizzy45
07-13-2007, 09:28 AM
This is for Dizzy,
How do you practice The Test in terms of getting over your depression? Do you imagine yourself cured from the depression and feel that it's really happening? Do you tell yourself that I want to be happy again and depression free. Hope you can respond to my questions. Thanks!
vicky88
Hi Vicky
The thing I imagined (my test) was a simple black feather. Two days later, a 10 inch black feather was delivered to my front doorstep. Some may call it coincidence, but I believe the power of my thought brought that feather to me. This happened on the 30th June. I have not seen any other black feather anywhere since, and believe me I have looked. I now have my black feather up on my kitchen wall. I may even get it framed. So you are wondering, how can this help your depression. Imagine if it were possible, that whatever you thought you could have. All you have to do is think, believe and receive. Since that feather was delivered to my door, I banish my negative thoughts as much as I can and only think about positive things. About the way I really want my life to be. I think about the things that will make me happy, all the time believing that these things are going to be delivered to me, just as I witnessed that black feather being delivered. Since I have changed my way of thinking and using this process, things around me are slowly beginning to change for the better. My Dad, who I haven't spoken to in years, contacted me; a really close friend that I fell out with, just contacted me again; I am having a much happier relationship with my daughter, my daughter was let down by a job, but got one the very next day, my sister has suddenly decided to cut down on her alcohol consumption (she is alcoholic), and all of these things have happened in the last 2 weeks. Before, nothing ever changed in my life.
I've just finished reading The Secret again for the second time as I want to absorb everything that it says and use the methods stated day in day out. I've even ordered more books on the subject which were written by authors hundreds of years ago. There is definately something in what they say. I don't think it works for everybody and depends a lot on how much you are going to believe that what they are saying is true and how much you put it to practice. But I beilieved it to be true the day I received that feather. I was completely knocked, flabergasted, speechless. I'm not completely cured of my depression but I feel a whole lot better than I did a couple of weeks ago, before my little miracle happened. Now, I find myself laughing again.
hope this helps
Dx.
How do you practice The Test in terms of getting over your depression? Do you imagine yourself cured from the depression and feel that it's really happening? Do you tell yourself that I want to be happy again and depression free. Hope you can respond to my questions. Thanks!
vicky88
Hi Vicky
The thing I imagined (my test) was a simple black feather. Two days later, a 10 inch black feather was delivered to my front doorstep. Some may call it coincidence, but I believe the power of my thought brought that feather to me. This happened on the 30th June. I have not seen any other black feather anywhere since, and believe me I have looked. I now have my black feather up on my kitchen wall. I may even get it framed. So you are wondering, how can this help your depression. Imagine if it were possible, that whatever you thought you could have. All you have to do is think, believe and receive. Since that feather was delivered to my door, I banish my negative thoughts as much as I can and only think about positive things. About the way I really want my life to be. I think about the things that will make me happy, all the time believing that these things are going to be delivered to me, just as I witnessed that black feather being delivered. Since I have changed my way of thinking and using this process, things around me are slowly beginning to change for the better. My Dad, who I haven't spoken to in years, contacted me; a really close friend that I fell out with, just contacted me again; I am having a much happier relationship with my daughter, my daughter was let down by a job, but got one the very next day, my sister has suddenly decided to cut down on her alcohol consumption (she is alcoholic), and all of these things have happened in the last 2 weeks. Before, nothing ever changed in my life.
I've just finished reading The Secret again for the second time as I want to absorb everything that it says and use the methods stated day in day out. I've even ordered more books on the subject which were written by authors hundreds of years ago. There is definately something in what they say. I don't think it works for everybody and depends a lot on how much you are going to believe that what they are saying is true and how much you put it to practice. But I beilieved it to be true the day I received that feather. I was completely knocked, flabergasted, speechless. I'm not completely cured of my depression but I feel a whole lot better than I did a couple of weeks ago, before my little miracle happened. Now, I find myself laughing again.
hope this helps
Dx.