hi all,just need some advice here as a small child around 4 to about 10 id just faint and yes i was passedout uncousios if thats how you spell it .ok im now 45 and in jan 06 i had my left ovary removed i then ended up with severe panic ok started on xanax ok they helped alot i was driving cleaning everything then around may my thyrold went out of whack i think im not sure alls i know is i couldnt breath nor talk allmost passedout cried nonstop for over a hr .ok then come sept 06 i started having fainting spells then in dec06 i fainted 3 times then they just got worse .what i do now is i get really bad headaches and dizziness no worning i just fall then i lay there like im asleep like they lasts about 10 mins sometimes more and this has been happening more and more and in another post i saw where a lady said something about dreams well my dreams i have is like im out of body im in bed but i see myself up what does this mean a panic wouldnt do this would it and i read where it says if you had seizures as a child you can get them in aldulthood .i cant go anyplace or i fall with no worning and no reason i just fall and they are getting worse and worse today i got sweaty and felt sick to my stomach and i just didnt know what was happening to me and also when i fall my eyes flicker open and shut and i also see spots in front of my eyes but im also hypo thyrold so can anyone out there tell me what this is or can you tell me what a seizure is i read where this man had drop seizures where he'd just fall to the ground for no reason at all and thats what i do i cant see them coming im trying to figure out if this is panic or a seizure and its scarring me to dealth it kind of dont feel like panic but i dont really know .and when i go to drs i have to be in a wheelchair or i fall and they say i have agraphobia well if thats so why do i fall in my own home then and i dont think its panic but i could be wrong and i havent had a period since dec 06 thats 6 mos but would meno do this to a woman i only had 1 ovary removed and after my surgery i went into sudden meno and this dont feel nothing like that also at age 2 i bit into a electrical cord and it threw me across the room and i hit the wall hard and was unconius and rushed to the hospital the cord was still stuck to my lips im starting to get scared im having a 48 hr holter put on tomorrow but that wont tell if its panic or a seizure will it ? and how does one find out if they have serizures ??? what kind of dr would i see?
any advice would help me so anyone out there please please reply im terrifed ....i faint anywhere from 3-4 times per week and on somedays i have like 2 a day and when this happens my xanax dont even help ........
vickie

With sudden onset of unconscious episodes in adults, they usually check for heart rhythym abnormalities first, then to neurological (seizure) problems. See what the Holter says. I've got seizures (have had for decades), and an autonomic nervous system disorder (dysautonomia) that causes changes in how my brain tells my heart and blood pressure to work (not good), and I'll pass out if I don't get flat when I first start feeling weird. I thought I was going nuts at first, and I've seen many medical problems with my job (am now on disability), but found it was a bona fide disorder, apart from the seizures, although sometimes one leads to the other- only difference is how I feel right before = if I feel the aura or the heart beat abnormality... if the Holter is ok, you'll probably be sent for more tests- the important thing is to get to the bottom of it, for peace of mind, and safety.

hi all,just need some advice here as a small child around 4 to about 10 id just faint and yes i was passedout uncousios if thats how you spell it .ok im now 45 and in jan 06 i had my left ovary removed i then ended up with severe panic ok started on xanax ok they helped alot i was driving cleaning everything then around may my thyrold went out of whack i think im not sure alls i know is i couldnt breath nor talk allmost passedout cried nonstop for over a hr .ok then come sept 06 i started having fainting spells then in dec06 i fainted 3 times then they just got worse .what i do now is i get really bad headaches and dizziness no worning i just fall then i lay there like im asleep like they lasts about 10 mins sometimes more and this has been happening more and more and in another post i saw where a lady said something about dreams well my dreams i have is like im out of body im in bed but i see myself up what does this mean a panic wouldnt do this would it and i read where it says if you had seizures as a child you can get them in aldulthood .i cant go anyplace or i fall with no worning and no reason i just fall and they are getting worse and worse today i got sweaty and felt sick to my stomach and i just didnt know what was happening to me and also when i fall my eyes flicker open and shut and i also see spots in front of my eyes but im also hypo thyrold so can anyone out there tell me what this is or can you tell me what a seizure is i read where this man had drop seizures where he'd just fall to the ground for no reason at all and thats what i do i cant see them coming im trying to figure out if this is panic or a seizure and its scarring me to dealth it kind of dont feel like panic but i dont really know .and when i go to drs i have to be in a wheelchair or i fall and they say i have agraphobia well if thats so why do i fall in my own home then and i dont think its panic but i could be wrong and i havent had a period since dec 06 thats 6 mos but would meno do this to a woman i only had 1 ovary removed and after my surgery i went into sudden meno and this dont feel nothing like that also at age 2 i bit into a electrical cord and it threw me across the room and i hit the wall hard and was unconius and rushed to the hospital the cord was still stuck to my lips im starting to get scared im having a 48 hr holter put on tomorrow but that wont tell if its panic or a seizure will it ? and how does one find out if they have serizures ??? what kind of dr would i see?
any advice would help me so anyone out there please please reply im terrifed ....i faint anywhere from 3-4 times per week and on somedays i have like 2 a day and when this happens my xanax dont even help ........
vickie

hi i am 28 isuffer from epilepsy i think it was brought on by a severe bang to the head about 7 years ago i dont get many sezures but can tell when they are coming on i get dizzy spells ,hot or and cold flushes and very disorrentated..it can be brought on by pain or shock to the system eg i had one straight after leaving dentists with locol anisthetic also high levels of alchohol can stop treatments working and trigger sezures.....i had to go to see a nuroligist and have tests done to check brainwave activity as this seems to cause fits described to me by a doctor as misfiring brainwave activity...this is just my symptoms they can vary a lot as there is different types of epilepsy....

Hi Vickie45,

I too started having seizures at 4 years old,I am now 44.
My seizures have got worse for the last 6 years.I too have
fainting spells,but,my doctor told me that they are called
"drop attack" seizures.I did do some research on them and it
does sound like what is going on.You might want to talk to your
Dr. about these.Take care.

yes i have talked to my dr and hes trying to figure it out i went to a psychiatrist yesterday and they told me my fainting does not sound like panic said they never heard of anyone who fainted from them said it sounded more like seizures then panic so im wearing a 48 hr holter then he will run more tests on me plus another symton im having is the BAD BAD headaches a tyleno dont even help its right in the back of my head and when i start to faint i feel really really dizzy and i get the headache and nothing can stop me down i go so im doing whatever it takes to find out about this cause no way i can i live with this fainting and its worse then its ever been and i hate it .and thanks for your reply that makes me feel as though im closer to finding out whats going on here.
cause i have panic but the fainting didnt seem like a panic to me i just knew it was something else and i have talked to several people about panic and if they ever fainted and all said NO ,
vickie

With sudden onset of unconscious episodes in adults, they usually check for heart rhythym abnormalities first, then to neurological (seizure) problems. See what the Holter says. I've got seizures (have had for decades), and an autonomic nervous system disorder (dysautonomia) that causes changes in how my brain tells my heart and blood pressure to work (not good), and I'll pass out if I don't get flat when I first start feeling weird. I thought I was going nuts at first, and I've seen many medical problems with my job (am now on disability), but found it was a bona fide disorder, apart from the seizures, although sometimes one leads to the other- only difference is how I feel right before = if I feel the aura or the heart beat abnormality... if the Holter is ok, you'll probably be sent for more tests- the important thing is to get to the bottom of it, for peace of mind, and safety.

neurowreck
what type of symtons did you have just before passing out ? whats happeming to me right now is i have a VERY BAD HEADACHE THAT WONT GO AWAY and its my whole head not just in certain areas and just before i fall i get real dizzy and my mind sort of goes blank then i fall and i cant more nor talk my eyes flicker open and shur i can hear my husband but cant respond and its getting worse i did go to the mental place and they said it sounds more like seizures then panic ,so can a seizure come out after all this time i was told yes im thinking i may have the drop seizures i did this very same thing as a child i get the holter off tomorrow then to a nerology which will most likely do a catscan and mri and maybe a brain wave i take 2 es tylenol and they dont even help my head fills like its going to bust it hurts so bad the pain stays never goes away im weak on my feet too and its just going to take time to figure out if this is seizures if not then i pray they really find out whats causeing my fainting i faint ALOT went to the hospital to get holter put on and i fainted there before i even had a chance to get a wheelchair .
i do have a good dr so im calling him tomorrow about my headaches and dizziness iam hypo but even in jan 07 when i first founf out and my tsh was 8.45 i didnt have the headaches or dizziness i was fainting then but not as much and even when my tsh was within the normal range i was still fainting .so i will let you know what i find out could you tell me some of the symtons of seizures if you dont mind.
vickie

Vickie,

Have they gave you an EEG yet? The reason I ask is that whenever
I have had a MRI nothing seems to show up,it is the EEG test that
has come back abnormal showing problems in my temporal lobe and
central.I would have thought if it appears on an EEG,it would definitely
show on a MRI.Everyone is different though.

Anyone else have test results like mine?

Take care.Sherri

Vickie,

Have they gave you an EEG yet? The reason I ask is that whenever
I have had a MRI nothing seems to show up,it is the EEG test that
has come back abnormal showing problems in my temporal lobe and
central.I would have thought if it appears on an EEG,it would definitely
show on a MRI.Everyone is different though.

Anyone else have test results like mine?

Take care.Sherri

If there's nothing physically wrong with your brain (like a tumor, or an injury, or something like that), nothing will show on the MRI. My results are the same as yours- my MRI's are always normal (thank goodness), but my EEG's always show abnormal brain activity.

SentenceDoing,

Thanks so much for the information,me not having insurance
for many,many years,I had only one MRI 15 years ago,and my
last one was just 2 months ago,with my seizures actually being
worse now,I wondered why it would not show.The doctor did
order it to check to see if I had ever had a stroke.I have alot
experience with having seizures,but,not too much on taking tests.
Thanks again.Sherri

I"d start with a feeling of skipped heart beats, and beginning to get lightheaded; it was a weird feeling in my chest, and I'd often turn bluish, very cold, and then if I didn't get to the floor, end up of the floor..... lots of tests and ambulance trips, and I finally got a diagnosis and meds. Sometimes those seem to lead into the complex partial seizures, but those start out different, so I know initially which is which.....I sleep very hard after both.

Vickie,

When you pass out or have a drop attack seizure,did you say you
can hear your husband,but unable to respond? Because when I
have mine,I cannot see or hear anything or anybody.

I am not a doctor,but,my mother was having bad migraine headaches
and alot of fainting spells,and it ended up being diabetes.Have they
checked you for that? She would faint sometimes if she got a little
upset,like a panic attack or something.

Take care,Sherri

well all i had another spell only this time i tried taking a walk and got 2 blocks down i left because i was upset because my mom dont understand me and hurts my feelings well i got 2 blooks down and out of the blue i just dropped i was uncoios this time i didnt know nothing couldnt do nothing i was walking down on the main street on the sidewalk and i just fell i was out cold for like 10 mins i didnt hear nor see anything then i could hear people trying to get me to talk but i couldnt i just laid there i couldnt even remember my name they called my husband as they took me to the hospital i didnt even know what had happened and im scared to dealth i do not know whats happening i do have panic but this was not a panic attack also if im on xanax would that make me passout cold and they are happening more and more now i had one thursday another one today what is wrong with me and yes my surgar is fine im on b/p meds but this started happening in april 06 then again in sept then dec then in april 07 they started coming more and more but the blackouts have been like a month or so now what could this be i had the brain wave mri and 48 hr holter done in march 07 they said all was normal well passingout cold is not normal and seeing as its happening more and more this isnt normal do you have any ideals of what this could be im very very scared and my head still hurts horribly my chest hurts i cry oh and when the ent 's got to me i was coherant ...............vickie

Hi Vickie,

What you just described sounds just like my drop attack seizures.
I would demand an EEG test if they don't do one on you very soon.
When you are out as long as 10 minutes,it is called "status epilepsy
seizures" and they are not good for anyone.You may have already
known that,but,just in case you didn't.My doctor told me for it to be
status E. you do not have to be convulsing the whole time.

Good-luck and Take care,Sherri

what is a eeg? is that the same as a brain wave and also if i had a mri,brain wave and the holter done in march 07 can stuff change this soon?
and what is a eeg what do they do for that like what is it they do on me is it a blood test or what?

Hi Vickie,

An EEG is a type of brain test,where they stick a bunch of wires
all over your scalp,now they have you put on a cap that the wires
actually go onto.As Sentencedoing said,a MRI can show up normal(mine do)
and you can still have Epilepsy.While they are giving you the EEG,it can
read all your brainwaves,it is even better if you were to have a seizure
while taking the test.It only takes about 45 minutes.Sometimes they will
have you go without any medication before the test.

I hope I was able to help,feel free to ask any questions.
Take care,Sherri

When I am either post-ictal, or coming out of the autonomic episodes, I'm out cold for a while, but there's a slowness to how much I hear and see as I'm waking up- it doesn't all happen at once. There's a very rude bunch of EMS guys, who's voices I recognize, but would never recognize their faces. They don't "get it" that it's not like waking up from regular sleep, where vision and hearing essentially wake up at the same rate, and more quickly. But when I'm out, I'm out. It's frustrating. Speech comes back slowly, also, but I can nod/shake my head if questions are asked simply and with yes/no answers.

Vickie,

Yes,what neurowreck said about just being able to nod and
not really answer someones questions other than yes or no,
but mainly the nod thing sounds just like me.Sometimes I don't
ever hear them at all, and everyone says that I just fall asleep
right after I come to,that happens to me more after the drop attack
seizures,I will sometimes sleep for 2 or 3 hours then just wake up,
and ask everyone if I had one or not.
When I have my complex partials,I couldn't have described
it any better than neurowreck. Take care,Sherri

well i called and explined my symtons to a nerology and was told that this does sound like seizures i have appt aug 6th but im trying to get in sooner they said the sooner the better as this is dangerous .
vickie

Vickie,

Good-luck! Let all of us know what happens at your doctors appt.

It will not surprise me if they schedule you for the EEG.That is how
they found out for sure that I had problems in my temporal lobe
causing my seizures.

Hopefully you can get in to see someone sooner.

Take care,Sherri

There are also autonomic seizures ( among the 100+ different sorts of seizures) that can cause similar symptoms....I'm not sure how they'd be diagnosed other than history and witnesses, since that part of the brain is too deep for superficial electrodes (regular EEG) to pick up on.

well all had another episode again today and i was just sitting on the couch i called hubby and could barly talk then i blackedout my 10 yr old daughter told me afterwards i had one i didnt even know and once i woke up i laid down and slept well i got appt friday 27th and i had my internal medicine dr he had me wear a heart holter and i had one spell then so he says its my heart ok if thats so then i wouldnt have been able to walk home from the hospital that night cause if you have a stroke or heart attack it wouldnt take days later would it ? its seizures cause it feels like it plus i called this nerology and told them my symtons and said it sounds like seizures plus i called a psychiatrist to see if it was panic or seizures and she said sounded like seizures to her too i hope and pray its not bad what meds do you all take and how well do you do on them ? and can you drive ? at this point once i get my seizures under control i will be so much happir and all this time i thought i was falling from panic man some drs dont know much do they.plus i had mri brainwave and holter done in feb and the new nerology i called said yes things can change and sometimes they cant pick it up right away.so yes i will keep you all posted man so far iam hyp thyrold b/p hypertion what next hope nothing im only 45 ............i will get back with you all soon.vickie my internal med dr wanted to put me on toprol-XL AND I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS BUT IM SEEING A HEART DR TO MAKE SURE IM GETTING 2ND APPION .wouldnt you cause they have to do more then just a heart holter dont they to see if its the heart?plus i have the terrible headaches do you all get them? and today when i had it again i was shaky and trembling i shook real bad my daughter told me well if i have another i told my daughter to call 911 .
vickie

Hi Vickie,


I am glad to hear that you got an earlier appt.

As far as the driving,all states are different,some you have to
6 months seizure free,some 1 year seizure free.I don't know what
they would do in your case since you already have one.I have had
seizures way before driving age.And the medicine,I am on Tegretol,
Keppra and Ativan.
With alot of you problems like B/P and panic attacks etc.It can all
be caused by your temporal lobe if that is where your problems are
coming from.The temp.lobe is where most of my damage is.I never
realized that I had any anxiety trouble until after my doctor put me
one the Ativan,I became somewhat a new person almost overnight.
The Ativan is for seizures also,I guess because that is originally why
my doctor put me on it,told me to take it only on seizure days,now
everyday.
As far as the stroke,obviously you can have one and not even know
it,because when my doctor ordered me to have a MRI she wrote on
the order stroke stenosis.I then told her that I have never had a stroke
and she said,they can be so mild that you don't even know it,and that
they can cause you to have a seizure.Just found this out recently.

My seizures have got much worse now that I am getting close to meno-
pause and that can happen,and some people stop having them altogether
after M,and I have heard some people don't ever have them until then.
The reason I mention this is cause we are just about the same age,
I am will be 45 soon.

Good-luck on your Friday appt.Please keep us informed.
Take care,Sherri:)

well all i got in sooner went today hes sending me to a specialist at iu which is here in indiana for 3-4 days now i m having a spell about everyday so this way im hoping they find it im starting to jerk and tremble and shaky i pass out and oh i get this terrible stomach pain then diarea just before i have a attack before alls id feel was upset stomach and bad headache and im also getting this funny smell and sometimes a strange taste in my mouth and like today i came back from the dr and all of a sudden my stomach hurt went to bathroom and had diarea then came and sat down and boom i passedout for like 5 mins then i ended up going to sleep i had to take something for my stomach though oh and its not my b / p today it was 110 /70 pulse was 79 and when i had the 48 hr holter on i had a spell my heartrate went up to 180 so as soon as they call me for my appt i will be gone for 3-4 days .its a 2 hr drive but at this point im ready to do anything to help stop me from blackingout.this is no way to live .................vickie
i will keep you all posted.

well i dont believe its panic now i think all along it was seizures ,i do anxiety but like when i was having what i thought was panic i would scream and get real scared and cry and yes i hope they put me on something and they say a seizure can come out in adulthood as i had this same stuff back when i was small and my mom said i jerked and was out cold then too ,and my symtons are just getting worse how well do you all do on your meds and do you still have seizures and if im having drop seizures are they dangerous ? well at least finally im going to get help and get on some meds and as for driving i havent been able to drive since aug 07 because i would fall down ever so often then in june and july 07 is when i done the blackouts so see god did hear me i prayed and begged him to please help me and he is thats why im going to the iu of indiana and i read where stress can cause this too and believe me i been under alot of stress for a very long time and i dont know if i had stroke or not because they thought i was mental and i told them it was medical they thought i had took a bunch of meds which i only take levoxyl xanax and norvac plus tylenol for the headaches which dont help but they help some but not real good .so when they said they was putting me in a mental ward i said no your not and i signed myself out and went home cause seizures are not mental maybe they are in the brain but its not mental and alls i did was take a walk which i shouldnt have done but i tried and thats when i blackedout and i was so cohearent they thought i was drunk then thought i was taking too much meds ............well now they know vickie

Hi Vickie,

We are all different,but,to this day they have not been able
to find a combination of meds. that control my seizures 100%.
I do have them only around my period(catamenial epilepsy).Have
you noticed any changes that time of the month?Do they get worse.

As far as the drop attack seizures,YES!!,they can be very dangerous,
for one being out of it so long that can only cause more brain damage.
It has ruined my great memory,I once had.And I fell forward once and
landed head down on my driveway(no warning)and split my forehead open
about 2 inches.No one else was home and I just layed outside and bled
until I come to and made a phone call.I do not want to scare you,but,
you did ask.My father said the amount of blood on driveway was as much
as if he had gutted a deer.But,I am still alive to tell about it, and the only
thing that seemed to get worse after that was the memory,and a little
depressed.Another time I fell down,again face first down the steps and
my head went through a wall and was only inches from hitting a 2X4 stud,
that is what my Dad told me,had to go to the hospital that time.

Please be very careful until they get you under some control.

Take care, Sherri

thanks both of you and yes i will be carefull and sherri as far as periods are concerned i havent had 1 since dec 06 ,not sure if im in men but see i heard on the web that you can rages with your seizures and i use to be get so mad and out of control but never passedout and the reason i dont have periods is because jan 06 i had my ovary and tube removed that was all i dont feel like im in meno i do have hypo thyrold and so far my b/p is under control.im feeling happier now they are hooking me up to EEG for 3-4 days as soon as they call ,sherri is adivan for nerves kind of like xanax? and i dont have alot of anxiety i was having panic but i believe now it was seizures im not really sure can having a seizure scare you to dealth where you dont want to be left alone?and nerouswreck my heart has skipped beats as far back as i can remember.well went to the same nerology who ran my MRI.BRIAN WAVE and HEART HOLTER only i just had the 24 hr one then plus never had any spells then but i did this time which im glad cause now they saw that something was happening to me ...........so i will as soon as i get appt .have either of you had to go to hospital to stay 3-4 days to be tested? because mri and 24 hr holter and brainwave at that time didnt show nothing but since i had a fall while on the 48 hr one they saw something for 1 my hr was 180 and thats pretty high when i had a attack back in may at walmart my hr was 160 then and b/p was 206/112i didnt passout but allmost did if the people at walmart hadnt have helped me id never had made it just when i fell on the sidewalk people were trying to help me and thats good some wont but as for me id help anyone in the world if i could im a good person and you know what i miss the most since having all theses probs ----being able to drive or work and this yr i missed out on my daughters softball games because id fall but next yr WILL BE A BETTER YR i have alot of faith in that the good lord is the one to thank cause hes guiding me in the right direction talk soon...
vickie

Vickie,

Yes,Ativan is in the same family as Xanax.

And to answer your question,I have never been in the hospital
for 3-4 days testing.I have never had to be admitted to a hospital
for nothing Epilepsy related.I usually go get my test at other office
bldgs. that also do MRI,MRA,CT,etc. I forgot the name of the office.
Only been take to emergency room sometimes,but,they never have
admitted me.

Take care,Sherri

well i allready had the MRI ,BRAIN WAVE AND THE 48 HR HOLTER AT THE DRS ,hes sending me there so they can see what i do when i have a spell i guess since i done had all the tests done and i cant count how many times i been to hospital over this so do you have any idea why he wants me to go to a specialist for 3-4 days for im only going to be wearing the EEG for the 3-4 days .i knew this girl who went because of her seizures who lives here in my town maybe thats why i dont know for one MRI,BRAIN WAVE ,AND THE 24 HR ONE SHOWED NOTHING but when i had a blackout while wearing the 48 hr holter it showed something and my hr was 180 he said its not my heart but did say that during a seizure your hr would go up like that and when i passout its not a panic i just drop have no warning thats its coming sometimes id get a bad hurting in my stomach before id fall but never knew what it was till it started happening more and more thats when i knew when my stomach starting hurting that i was going to fall but no matter what i did nothing stopped me from passingout i tried telling myself oh please dont fall but i did anyway .so maybe he just wants to see how bad mine are i dont know alls i know is hes sending me to the hospital for 3-4 days to find out he said they can detect it better then he could because they specialize in that kind of stuff.
vickie

Hi Vickie,

We are all different,but,to this day they have not been able
to find a combination of meds. that control my seizures 100%.
I do have them only around my period(catamenial epilepsy).Have
you noticed any changes that time of the month?Do they get worse.

As far as the drop attack seizures,YES!!,they can be very dangerous,
for one being out of it so long that can only cause more brain damage.
It has ruined my great memory,I once had.And I fell forward once and
landed head down on my driveway(no warning)and split my forehead open
about 2 inches.No one else was home and I just layed outside and bled
until I come to and made a phone call.I do not want to scare you,but,
you did ask.My father said the amount of blood on driveway was as much
as if he had gutted a deer.But,I am still alive to tell about it, and the only
thing that seemed to get worse after that was the memory,and a little
depressed.Another time I fell down,again face first down the steps and
my head went through a wall and was only inches from hitting a 2X4 stud,
that is what my Dad told me,had to go to the hospital that time.

Please be very careful until they get you under some control.

Take care, Sherri

Sherri
if iam in meno could that be why im having seizures or whatever this is ,i dont feel like im in meno no hotness nor nightsweats so i dont know and all i had taken out was my left ovary and tube i still have everything else and i feel bad yes but its because my thyrold is skyhigh i go tomorrow to get my meds increased as im on too low a dose right now but my endo said thyrold would not make you blackoput.last period was dec 06 but i was having theses falling spells since sept 06 and had one in april and may 06 then sept then dec then they started happening more and more then in june and july is when i started blackingout .
vickie

Hi Vickie,

I guess they are checking you out for 3-4 days,because there will
be a better chance of seeing you have one,and now that you are
not on any meds. for it.
As far as the M. it,I am not in M. yet,but,perimenopause.I don't know
if you know or not,but,perimenopuase is not the same as premenopause.
The peri is just before menopause can start.That is when mine started
to get even worse with the drop attacks and all.All my life before that
I just had complex partials and maybe 3 grandmals.I always thought having
your ovaries removed would put you into an early M.My mother said,she
had migraines but,never hot flashes.I do sometimes have nightsweats,but,
nothing else.Everyone is definitely different when it comes to M.

My neurologist has had my thyroids checked more than once before,so
there must be able to be some kind of connection possibly with that,I
know you said that your endoc. said he never heard of the passing out,
but have you told him yet that it could possibly be a type of seizure,not
just fainting?

Hope I was of some help to you.Take care,Sherri

well im telling my endo tomorrow bout it maybe seizures shes very good and as for the fainting i didnt start getting it till i got thyrold illness my gp dr let me go like allmost 2 yrs without testing me even though i begged him several times hes no longer my dr .and right after i had the ovary removed i never had any type of fainting or blackouts or headacxhes but i did have a VERY BAD attack which i now believe was a seizure i allmost had a stroke my b / p was 206 /112 couldnt get my pulse my heartrate was 160 i couldnt walk nor talk i was awake but didnt know where i was nor what was happening i was crying nonstop for over a hr i was all hot and sweaty my face got beat red and if the people in walmart hadnt have helped me id never have made it so does that sound like a seizure also can too much stress bring out seizures?because since like 2001 till 2006 i was under so much stress first my ex and his g/f started harrassing me then 2002 my dad died then the ex and g/f kept harrassing me for allmost 6 yrs had me put in jail right after my surgery and i was terrifed about the surgery and then going to jail 2 times over each one the charges were finally dropped though but i was stressed over it for a whole yr so i her stress can bring out a seizure then on top of that i got thyrold illness which was skyhigh .i slept 24/7 cried nonstop deep deep depression but once i started my meds i felt better then the new dr had me over medicated so i had to start all over again.im only on 25mcgs and shes upping them to the 50mcgs tomorrow cant wait then i will start feeling so much better last time within 1 week i was feeling great now with the seizures can thyrold cause a seizure ?????
vickie

Hi Vickie,

I guess they are checking you out for 3-4 days,because there will
be a better chance of seeing you have one,and now that you are
not on any meds. for it.
As far as the M. it,I am not in M. yet,but,perimenopause.I don't know
if you know or not,but,perimenopuase is not the same as premenopause.
The peri is just before menopause can start.That is when mine started
to get even worse with the drop attacks and all.All my life before that
I just had complex partials and maybe 3 grandmals.I always thought having
your ovaries removed would put you into an early M.My mother said,she
had migraines but,never hot flashes.I do sometimes have nightsweats,but,
nothing else.Everyone is definitely different when it comes to M.

My neurologist has had my thyroids checked more than once before,so
there must be able to be some kind of connection possibly with that,I
know you said that your endoc. said he never heard of the passing out,
but have you told him yet that it could possibly be a type of seizure,not
just fainting?

Hope I was of some help to you.Take care,Sherri

Sherri
after i had my one ovary removed it did throw me into sudden meno for 2 mos then after 2 mos i got my periods back i have been fainting even with normal periods my last normal one was dec 06 i was still fainting but not bad then in april 07 they were getting worse i wasnt blacking out though i didnt start blacking out till june and july and now they are coming allmost everyday sometimes just every other day i think its possible its stress causing my seizures which i do believe it is my head hurts constandly but my thyrold is way up its 9.52 and when i felt this way before i found out i had the headaches the crying and all the other stuff i do cry from time to time but that may be my thyrolds as thyrold hypo does cause depression but i dont feel that bad now im getting my dose upped tomorrow and yes going to the hospital is best that way they can keep a eye on me and see how i do while having a seizure cant wait to find out so i can start meds cause i hate living with the blackouts .but you know my endo says no thyrolds dont do this but its very possible drs can be wrong they are human too and my last dr sure was wrong he was treating me for stuff that i didnt even have he thought i had bipolar just because id feel this energy then id be tired again but he had me over medicated on my thyrold meds .but i am allways cold not hot i sleep allnight but once i wake up to take my thyrold pill sometimes i can go back to sleep and sometimes not plus i have the diarea stomach pain upset stomach and the horrible headaches but right after my surgery i got the headaches but not near this bad i been taking tylenol since my surgery but not like i do now i just hope they find out what this is and i can live a normal life again last time they upped my dose to 50 i started feeling good but not 100% but that depends on my tt3 -4 and my ft 3 -4 plus last time i had my hormones checked my fsh was 47.6 and estronol was low it said.so i dont know but the place im going to will figure this out im sure wont they????
hugs vickie

Hi Vickie,

Yes,stress can make your seizures worse,but,not actually cause them.

And I cannot believe that your endocrinologist does not know that
a thyroid disorder can cause seizures.I am not a doctor and I was only
99.9% sure,so I looked in an Epilepsy book I have and it does state that
any endocrine disorders(e.g., thyroids,diabetes)along with very low sodium
(which I have on some test)can make seizures more likely to occur.

Make sure you tell your neurologist or personally I would change
endoc.

Like I said before,my thyroid is checked almost yearly.

Take care,Sherri

oh wow really i never knew this im telling her about the seizures before i didnt know they were seizures and just ask her if fainting was due from thyrolds well im for sure telling her tomorrow i had another spell again while in my kitchen i went in to get my daughter something to drink and boom down i went then i went and fell asleep i hate theses and they are happening more and more now but the first thing i tell her is im having seizures.and i just laid there they before couldnt move nor talk my head is getting worse and somedays i will have 2 in 1 day .so im glad im being checked out by the specialist but iam going to mention the seizures to my endo tomorrow at my appt.
vickie

Vickie,

Let us know what the doc says. Good-luck, Sherri

sherri what is a status epilepsy
seizures ??????? am wondering and how dangerous are they????
vickie

Status epilepticus is seizures that don't stop for an extended period of time, and have no recovery time between them. They can be very dangerous.

Your vital sign changes and passing out tell me that a tilt table test might be a good idea (doesn't hurt), to see how your body responds to different positions.

Another idea- when you first feel funky, tighten you thigh muscles as hard as you can- and if possible, lie down with your feet up. Be sure to get enough fluids (preferably without caffiene, since it is a diuretic), and salt. Toprol XL is an extended release blood pressure medication used for blood pressure and autonomic disorders (which I'm strongly wondering about). I'm wondering if you have both dysautonomia (lots of info online) and some form of seizure disorder. The dysautonomia would decrease bloodflow to your brain for a brief time, which could trigger seizures. Just a thought. I remember the feeling I was nuts because the symptoms were just so bizarre- but I did get it all sorted out.

Best of luck to you with the neuro :)

Hi Vickie,

Yes,just like neuro said about the status E.My doctor told me that
usually any seizure that last 10 minutes or more is considered status.

Take care,Sherri

my internal medicine dr called in Toprol XL but i didnt know what it was and didnt go get it yet cause i didnt have know idea what it was for is it good i can go get it at drugstore but i had no idea what it was so you think i should go get it ?????
vickie and how well does it work? and yes i feel this strange feeling in my chest then my stomach then my head starts hurting really bad i had 1 today then like 20 mins later had another im finally calmed down from it it took about 3 hrs though and i did sit on the couch and relax so yes my hubby is going to tell his job he needs to get me to that hospital sooner then the 27th i know its 3 weeks away but i hate feeling like this do you guys feel horrible with the seizures?? like i feel down right terrible and yes its scarry me to dealth ............vickie
ps should i stop my b/p meds till i get this figured out or keep taking them and also my thyrold meds .?
vickie

Hi Vickie,

Yes,I also feel downright horrible on days that I have seizures.

And I would definitely not stop any taking any of your medications,
the thyroid med. could actually be helping some,if by chance it is due
to your thyroid problems.I do know that some antidepressant meds can
cause seizures(if that is what you are on for B/P).But,I would still not
stop taking them,ask your doctor about that.

Sorry to hear how bad your day was.It will get better once they get
you on some seizure meds.

Take care,Sherri

Keep taking all of your meds, and never stop the xanax 'cold turkey'...that family of meds needs to be tapered. The Toprol XL can help with blood pressure problems that cause you to faint- even if you don't have typically high blood pressures. I take blood pressure meds for the autonomic disorder, and it's made a huge difference in how often my BP bottoms out, and I land on the floor. You might feel a bit tired when you first take the Toprol XL, but that gets better.

A lot of this sounds so much like what I went through when I was diagnosed with dysautonomia (already had the complex partial seizures diagnosed years earlier). I landed on the floor about 12 times in 2 weeks- I was living with a nurse from work to save on rent, and she finally said "can I call an ambulance?" when I crashed at 3 am getting up to go to the bathroom.

You could have a couple of things going on- but meds have helped. I can't work now, but did for almost 10 years after the dysautonomia diagnoses. The seizures and dys got worse and I wasn't employable when I was on the floor half the time.

Don't give up hope on the meds- a lot of times it takes several tries to get the right one- I went through at least a half a dozen to get the right combo for my body. It's frustrating- but it can greatly improve the quality of your life. :)

thanks both of you can seizures cause upset stomach ? im just wondering cause i had 2 agaiun today and yes afterwards i feel horrible my nero dr called in some pain meds for my headaches so your saying toprnol xl helps with my passing out ? wow if thats so im having hubby get it soon ,and the reason i said something about the b/p was this i went to a internal dr once my b/p was up just a bit so he automatitlly put me on 10 mg of b/p meds so i dont know if i need them or not but the thyrold and xanax yes i need them .and if i start the topronol xl does it have any side effects? the dr said it would slow my heart rate down but if they are trying to check my serizures would that cause a difference in them checking me?????
vickie