ok so my son is gonna be two next month, i know he over age limit for this board but id like your imput, my son does not sleep good, at all at night, he wakes anywhere between 2 times to like 10 times. anyone got any ideas why, cuz idk anymore,lol, he sleeps in a twin bed, he been out of a crib since he was about 18 months, he lives his bed so i know its not that, he sleeps with his tv on, i tried without it and he screamed for it to be on...his security thing is his cup, i let him sleep with it, and we wake at night to change him because he gets so wet it soaks through, i thought maybe he heard things so we got a rain sound machine in his room, lately he scared of alot, is this just a phase?? i also have a 4 1/2 month old, let me tell ya i aint slept in like 2 years it seems!!!!!!!

I had to get an eggcrate mattress and really high thread count sheets. They are cooler and the eggcrate is sooooo comfortable. We didn't figure it out until he decided he wasn't going to sleep anywhere but our bed, so we made his just like ours. Now he sleeps all night.

Amy

Look into my post on sleep apnea in children.

Go to this post and look it over. I hope that it gives you some insight.

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=514963

My 4.5 year old son, myself, and my husband have sleep apnea and hypopnea.. severe sleep apnea. He had all the same symptoms and my pediatricians kept blowing it off as him being a large child and growing constantly.

Then they tried to blame ADHD and many other things. Nope just stopping breathing 30 times an hour at night and waking every two hours as his body rebooted. Sleep apnea due to enlarged adnoids and tonsils is highly common in toddlers and preschool aged children.

Sincerely,
MG

try giving them a choose or warnnings like do you want me to read a book to you or do you want music playin and sometimes I do both I read a story that is for bed time them tell mine goodnight and put soft music on as I leave.

does he have his back molars yet? around his age, they start cutting those back molars and that is HORRIBLE! my youngest is cutting hers right now (she's almost 20 mos) and has been for at least 4 months! she doesn't sleep that great either. we give her ibuprofen or tylenol along with homeopathic teething tablets before bedtime and that seems to help her settle down. when she wakes at night i will sometimes give her more teething tablets and either tylenol or ibuprofen (which ever one i didn't give her at bedtime!). anyway... totally understand the lack of sleep! hope it gets better for you! :)

oh! when we put our oldest into a twin bed, we bought a baby gate and put it in her doorway so she can't get out of her room and wander through the house in the middle of the night (i have this fear of one of them getting out the front or back door without us knowing!) might be worth a try....if your son knows he can't get out of his room, he might give it up and stay in his bed?

ok, as for bed feelin like ours, his bed is sooo much more comfortable then ours so i doubt thats it.
i dont really think its sleep apnea i have looked into that he barely has symptoms of it.
we have a bedtime routine, he loves it, but it dont solve the prolem.

and no, i was thinkin maybe it was his molars too, but nothing helps, we also use tylenol and teething tablets. as for getting out of his room. his door is shut with a thing on it so he cant get out, we have tried the gate thing, he kinda outsmarted that one and learned to climb the gate.


he has never slept all night, NEVER, but its getting worse the older he gets:o

If he has any symptoms you should get him checked out. If he snores or mouths breathes at this age obstructive sleep apnea is a guarantee. The symptoms of sleep apnea in children differ greatly from those of adults and often get labeled ADD/ADHD. The only way to be sure is to get a consultation with a sleep specialist and ENT. They are qualified to determine if it is an airway obstruction problem.

If the pain killers are not helping then it is most likely not molar pain. Children to go through a sleep state shift between the ages of 18 months and 28 months, where they wake up with uncontrollable screaming and such.. oftimes they will cry and scream out, but never really wake up. This is a natural stage all children go through as the develop and hit active dreaming states and start getting night terrors at this new phenomena.

Respectfully,
MG

juniorsmommy, what exactly happens at night when your son is waking up? what does he do, and what do you do in response? i was just remembering a phase my oldest went through where she would get up and open up her door and just stand there peeking out trying to see what we were doing. we'd go get her and lecture her about bedtime, and hug her and snuggle her and do the whole routine several times a night. then there was a "supernanny" marathon on one day (that show makes me grateful for the few little issues my kids actually have!!!), and supernanny's method was to simply pick the kids up and put them back in their beds without saying a word, no hugs or kisses or anything. just put them in and walk out. she probably did this in at least 7 out of 10 shows that day!!! even though i was skeptical, we tried her method (i would tell my daughter, "okay, talking time is over now. if you get up again, mommy and daddy are not going to talk to you because it's sleeping time. we'll talk again in the morning."). i was shocked, but the supernanny method actually works!

as far as the television, if you think it might be part of the problem, you might pick a time during the day when he is as reasonable as you can expect from a not quite two year old, and "break" the tv. once it's "broken" you can take it out of his room and replace it with a brand new "big boy" nightlight that he can go pick out at the store. or something like that.

anyway, i hate that you are going through this! not sleeping AND dealing with two kids is just HARD!

last night he did good, we ate earlier, took our walk earlier, and he got his bath earlier, by 745, i shut all the shades and turned on the lights like i would before it was bed, then i shut most the lights off so it was somewhat dark, we all sat on the couch watchin cartoons for about 20 minutes, i look over at Jr. and he tryin to curl up in a ball and go to sleep, so hubby ut him in his bed, i shut his tv off for the very first time, and it worked he only woke his normal like, 2 times! i dont know if i solved my problem or just had a good night! lol

Children 2 and older should not wake more than once a night. If they do you are looking at a sleep disorder. It has nothing to do with sleep hygiene unless someone is running about and making enough noise to wake the child.

Sincerely,
MG

Children 2 and older should not wake more than once a night. If they do you are looking at a sleep disorder. It has nothing to do with sleep hygiene unless someone is running about and making enough noise to wake the child.

Sincerely,
MG

I don't think every 2 year old waking more than once a night has a sleep disorder! I would believe bad habits is the reason for a majority of night wakings (except for the occasional teething, illness, change of routine)....not a sleep disorder!!!! How many times do we see questions on infant and toddler sleep issues???? I would say a very, very, very small amount of those are a sleep disorder!

Statistics show 2 out of 100 have sleep apnea in one form or another and 6 out of 100 have some other type of sleep disorder.

Waking chronically more than once a night for long periods of time is a sleep disorder and results in sleep deprivation. Unfortunately, the only way to know for sure if you have a sleep disorder is to have a sleep study performed.

Dismissing something out of hand with out complete investigation bothers me. I feel many dismiss things out of hand with out knowing for sure. From what has been said here.. the signs do point to sleep apnea or hypopnea. I am not saying it is a fact, but that is what the symptoms point to.. teething is not every night since birth. Of course this is my opinion, and knowing how serious OSA is in a child. I just want to make sure a sleep disorder is not dismissed out of hand.

SIncerely,
MG

last night he did good, we ate earlier, took our walk earlier, and he got his bath earlier, by 745, i shut all the shades and turned on the lights like i would before it was bed, then i shut most the lights off so it was somewhat dark, we all sat on the couch watchin cartoons for about 20 minutes, i look over at Jr. and he tryin to curl up in a ball and go to sleep, so hubby ut him in his bed, i shut his tv off for the very first time, and it worked he only woke his normal like, 2 times! i dont know if i solved my problem or just had a good night! lol

YEA!!!! how did he do last night? :)

he has been sleeping great since we started shutting off his tv, geez i never woulda guessed,lol...:D now i just got my 5 month old that wakes 3 times a night, haha

that is so great! :)

doesn't it make life so much easier when they SLEEP???!?!?!?! sorry the five month old isn't sleeping for you yet... but at least now you know there's hope! :)

Hi I am going thru the same thing with my 17mo DD she has never been a good sleeper everyone kept saying wait till shes older it will get better I am ready to drop over from exhaustion I never get any sleep when she naps I have to hold her and she will only nap for short periods and at night she will wake up screaming her head off for no reason that I can find I tried everything nothing works I lay on one side all night rocking her my whole body hurts because I never get to relax I have no idea how to fix it and my dr doesnt seem to think its a problem at all.

Denise, please see my response to the thread "OMG, fighting naps" on some tips to make your bby's bed more "sleepable.

Good luck.

Amy

Junoirs Mommy - I hear you on the whole sleep thing. My DS is a little over 2 and he still gets up at night and he never slept well at night. My DD at 6 months sleeps better then him. DS also has to have a cup at night but we change him as soon as he wakes up. We have him in a crib still but I have the toddler bed and will be setting it up soon. His crib is about 2 feet from our bed and he still wakes up saying, Mommy, I need you. And his favorite line at night is, I go sleep on the couch. If we put him there he sleeps all night without waking up and does great. I tried putting him on the couch in our den instead of the one in the living room but it has to be the one in the living room. It is real strange. We haven't had one decent nights sleep in 2 years either. I just want one, just one, night where no one wakes me up. So I decided DH and I are going to go away one night and my mom will watch the kids and we are sleeping without interruption!!